Left me on a cliff hanger when you said "watch this video up here" and see no videos :( Props to you btw, genuinenly enjoyable comparison and stright to the points!
@@OtterMTBtech All good no hurries, I'd guess you swap the Mineral oil seals for DOT fluid seals or something, but anyways. Good job with them videos! :)
I've been riding Shimano Saint brakes M820 from 2014 on my Santa Cruz V10, and up to today riding them on Intense M16, in the mean time i've had Shimano Zee on Scott Gambler, saint's younger brother basically, they are super reliable and i've never experienced any overheating with them, having a long bikepark laps on them for days, having super long enduring and steep descents up from mountain tops, you would exhaust yourself before you overheat Saint/Zee brakes... That being said, their lever is real good in ergonomics, and unfortunately pretty flimsy and easily breakable if you crash with your handlebar facing the surface... not cheap to replace, but can find it anywhere at most.. Overall easy to service, and just trust me Ice tech pads, make a huge difference in stopping power with them, i don't whether it is different material, or the actual fact that pads stay cooler for longer, due to air cooling construction. Modulation is pretty good for my riding style, as i like to drift my rear wheel a lot, those who don't look elsewhere, they are true to their public name a stopcrane brakes, but once you get used to them, you won't jump on anything else.
Not sure why people get confused? Just have 2*220mm HS2 SRAM rotors w CODE RSCs with organic pads and I guarantee there will not be a single instance you feel lack of power. Pretty sure Shimano has an equivalent. The setup I mentioned above can even stop 10x what your weight is
The Boy from Germany, where all cars are breaking and have issues, has one Question. Why to hell you leave the pedals so early. That's what my grandma is doing on her bike. Quote: The feets has to stay on the pedals and the body has to be in a low rear position for good results. Thats what we do here in old Germany to get good results at brake tests. And Magura is the best and from Germany.
I love German cars for comfort, but I was mechanic for decade and German cars and products do not age well. Mostly over complicated engineering and hard to repair.
la verità è che un rider esperto non ha bisogno di in freno così facilmente modulabile come il code perchè ha la sensibilità giusta per dosare anche un freno come il Saint, e il Saint ha una forza d'arresto molto superiore a il Code quindi è meglio
I was looking for this exactly comparison. And I still don't know which one I should choose... lol. It's for my E-Mtb and I don't know if I go to power, or modulation... dammit. Goot work !
Big hands go Sram, small hands to Shimano. I’m Sram all day long. Tested TRP recently definitely the best, but I steer away, since it’s more difficult to get repair parts.
Big hands go Sram, small hands go Shimano. I would literally cook my SLX brakes on my Levo on 3,000 foot downhill. Sram dot fluid never had fade issue. TRP feel great, but parts are a slight issue
@@OtterMTBtech It seems that I'm following your footsteps... I have a Turbo Levo with SLX brakes and on long steep descends, the smell of burning pads is awful. Before it has Sram Level T on it, but I didn't like them either (no stopping power). I was wondering if the CODE will have the same feeling than the Level T, or if the Level wasn't poperly bled (I never had SRAM brakes). I have big hands (I'm 6.2ft tall), maybe CODE will be better at all. My Levo has 200mm SRAM Centerline rotors front and rear... I'll propably have to buy a good bleeding kit for the CODE (I just have a Shimano kit)...
@@EduardoNakiri what I did to the Levo was just put saint calipers on the bike. Kept SLX levers, the fittings were different so the lines had to changed and that wasn’t cheap to have new lines ran in bike. Codes feel like they have air in them too, way more control panic stopping once you get over the spongy feel. I’m working on a video of saint calipers and a variety of Shimano levers to get sram feel.
@@OtterMTBtech Too late bro, I just ordered a pair of Code rsc. I'll give SRAM a try, once Saint is DH oriented, I think it could be a little overkill on regular trails. Let's see if I get used to the Sram feel... Thanks !
like for an actual comparison the 1st two vids i checked basically read their specs and say they are both different but good, completely useless, otter on the other hand demonstrated stuff I've read that sram were more progressive I have shimano xt right now and I don't like their on-off braking much, my front wheel gave up and I fell recently because of them had to jump from the bike when front locked on loose gravel the bike was going down no saving that
Too bad all the other brakes you discounted are better than SRAM or Shimano - namely the Hayes Dominions, Hope Tech 4 V4, Formula Cura 4 and TRP DH-R Evos or even Cascade Callipers mated onto your Code RSC levers. All that trouble to butcher a Saint brake with MT400 levers, it would have cost you less to just go with one of the better brake options.
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this guy is so unhinged i love it
Left me on a cliff hanger when you said "watch this video up here" and see no videos :(
Props to you btw, genuinenly enjoyable comparison and stright to the points!
Ran out of steam to finish 2nd video. shortly have it done
@@OtterMTBtech All good no hurries, I'd guess you swap the Mineral oil seals for DOT fluid seals or something, but anyways. Good job with them videos! :)
owning the saint for 3 years now... all statements are true. an i love it (bionol, steal braided hose, 220rotors)
I've been riding Shimano Saint brakes M820 from 2014 on my Santa Cruz V10, and up to today riding them on Intense M16, in the mean time i've had Shimano Zee on Scott Gambler, saint's younger brother basically, they are super reliable and i've never experienced any overheating with them, having a long bikepark laps on them for days, having super long enduring and steep descents up from mountain tops, you would exhaust yourself before you overheat Saint/Zee brakes... That being said, their lever is real good in ergonomics, and unfortunately pretty flimsy and easily breakable if you crash with your handlebar facing the surface... not cheap to replace, but can find it anywhere at most.. Overall easy to service, and just trust me Ice tech pads, make a huge difference in stopping power with them, i don't whether it is different material, or the actual fact that pads stay cooler for longer, due to air cooling construction. Modulation is pretty good for my riding style, as i like to drift my rear wheel a lot, those who don't look elsewhere, they are true to their public name a stopcrane brakes, but once you get used to them, you won't jump on anything else.
Nice one! I highly suggest that you better try the shigura brake set up. You will get what you're looking for.
Not sure why people get confused? Just have 2*220mm HS2 SRAM rotors w CODE RSCs with organic pads and I guarantee there will not be a single instance you feel lack of power. Pretty sure Shimano has an equivalent. The setup I mentioned above can even stop 10x what your weight is
I have to run 40mm brake adapters to use those
i’m using the same shimano zee since 2017 and other than oil replacement a few times I had no problems whatsoever
Good to hear, I just have had the Shimano levers leak.
You should give Magura MT5's (maybe even "Shiguras") or TRP DH-R Evo's a shot. Plenty of power but way better modulation than Shimano anchors.
The Boy from Germany, where all cars are breaking and have issues, has one Question. Why to hell you leave the pedals so early. That's what my grandma is doing on her bike. Quote: The feets has to stay on the pedals and the body has to be in a low rear position for good results. Thats what we do here in old Germany to get good results at brake tests. And Magura is the best and from Germany.
I love German cars for comfort, but I was mechanic for decade and German cars and products do not age well. Mostly over complicated engineering and hard to repair.
I had Both the sram has an good Control but the saint has Better under load
i guess better title could be "flawless performance vs arm pump and moderate power"
😂
I had Both the sram has an good Control but the saint has Better under load
Saint/XTR(Lever) Combo =
la verità è che un rider esperto non ha bisogno di in freno così facilmente modulabile come il code perchè ha la sensibilità giusta per dosare anche un freno come il Saint, e il Saint ha una forza d'arresto molto superiore a il Code quindi è meglio
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I was looking for this exactly comparison. And I still don't know which one I should choose... lol. It's for my E-Mtb and I don't know if I go to power, or modulation... dammit. Goot work !
Big hands go Sram, small hands to Shimano. I’m Sram all day long.
Tested TRP recently definitely the best, but I steer away, since it’s more difficult to get repair parts.
Big hands go Sram, small hands go Shimano. I would literally cook my SLX brakes on my Levo on 3,000 foot downhill. Sram dot fluid never had fade issue.
TRP feel great, but parts are a slight issue
@@OtterMTBtech It seems that I'm following your footsteps... I have a Turbo Levo with SLX brakes and on long steep descends, the smell of burning pads is awful. Before it has Sram Level T on it, but I didn't like them either (no stopping power). I was wondering if the CODE will have the same feeling than the Level T, or if the Level wasn't poperly bled (I never had SRAM brakes). I have big hands (I'm 6.2ft tall), maybe CODE will be better at all. My Levo has 200mm SRAM Centerline rotors front and rear... I'll propably have to buy a good bleeding kit for the CODE (I just have a Shimano kit)...
@@EduardoNakiri what I did to the Levo was just put saint calipers on the bike. Kept SLX levers, the fittings were different so the lines had to changed and that wasn’t cheap to have new lines ran in bike.
Codes feel like they have air in them too, way more control panic stopping once you get over the spongy feel.
I’m working on a video of saint calipers and a variety of Shimano levers to get sram feel.
@@OtterMTBtech Too late bro, I just ordered a pair of Code rsc. I'll give SRAM a try, once Saint is DH oriented, I think it could be a little overkill on regular trails. Let's see if I get used to the Sram feel... Thanks !
like for an actual comparison the 1st two vids i checked basically read their specs and say they are both different but good, completely useless, otter on the other hand demonstrated stuff I've read that sram were more progressive I have shimano xt right now and I don't like their on-off braking much, my front wheel gave up and I fell recently because of them had to jump from the bike when front locked on loose gravel the bike was going down no saving that
Try softer pads
SRAM Code R, caliper piston stock up 😤😤😤 compare with my SLX more than 2years never been stock up
My SRAM Code R brakes more power full and doesn't make no noises
Buen video
Try some trick stuff pads on the codes. Sram pads are supposedly not that good. Also sram have new rotors which are also apparently better
James Cameron is looking for you guys. Amazing acting skills. Damn... it's like watching parody of parody. 🥴🥴🥴
😭 not sure if you are laughing or repulsed?
Shimano..wandering bite point, inconsistency. SRAM Code R...set it and forget it.
Except the sticky calipers
Too bad all the other brakes you discounted are better than SRAM or Shimano - namely the Hayes Dominions, Hope Tech 4 V4, Formula Cura 4 and TRP DH-R Evos or even Cascade Callipers mated onto your Code RSC levers.
All that trouble to butcher a Saint brake with MT400 levers, it would have cost you less to just go with one of the better brake options.
😆 some what true.Well. You’re talking big money. I had all the brakes laying around.
Code slv
Code on the front, Saint on the rear. Simples.
th-cam.com/video/h2RoyRS8kJI/w-d-xo.html sram feel Shimano brakes and cheap
Wtf is shram?
S-Ram dog
bro put a saint on the front and said it was better💀
Not sure what you mean?