This guy knows what's up! I did the infotainment self repair, from your other video, on my 2021 touring and have had zero issues since the repair. His channel is a good one to subscribe to and watch all of his videos. Thank you!
Hey man, thank you very much for the advice. You're the only person on TH-cam discussing this transmission jittering issue with Honda pilots. About 2 months ago, I was on the market for 2017-2020 Honda pilots, 6-speed ones. I test-drove about 6 cars, and 4 of them had some sort of transmission jittering issue. One of them was so bad that I had to stop driving because the salesperson thought something was wrong with the car. Only 2 were without problems and they were both at the Honda Dealership where I'm assuming they have changed the fluid because those cars had to be certified. I bought one from Rick Case Hyundai/ Genesis/ Kia/Audi dealership in Duluth, Georgia, and it had the same issue. I felt the jittering at low-speed gear shifting but I still ended up buying the car because they gave me 10 years 100k, engine, transmission, and drive-axle warranty and it had a very clean interior. After driving for a few hundred miles, the jittering issue started irritating me. So I followed your advice to drain-fill it three times (I wanted to do three but I only had 8 bottles of DW-1, Honda Genuine trans fluid, so I've only done two times), and man, I'm telling you, the transmission felt so much better right away. I say, 90% of the jittering was gone. It had 65K miles at the time, and I'm guessing the previous owner never changed the trans fluid because the fluid was soo dark and the magnetic drain plug had so much black thick tar-like stuff on it. I've driven about 8K miles after those flushes and now I want to do another flush. Hope it fixes the very little jittering that's left in it. I've changed the oil once already and going to do one very soon. I'm a bit worried that the previous owner might not have taken care of it well because I do not see much carfax service/oil change history on it. It had a clogged windshield wiper fluid reservoir filter because the blue wiper fluid it had in the reservoir broke down and created a thick blue slushy. The fluid pump came out of the reservoir socket, I'm guessing because the water could not pass through the filter. I took it to my local Honda dealership and they said the whole reservoir and the pump need to be replaced and it's $490 total. I thought that was excessive, so I decided to buy an aftermarket reservoir and motor for $50 and change it myself. When I took the wheel cover off to inspect, I found out that the fluid pump is running but it popped out of the socket. I was not able to take the whole reservoir off because it would require me to take the front bumper off, and I felt it was not worth it. Kinda frustrating that Honda put the reservoir bolts in out-of-view places. I was able to clean the filter and everything, and ran water through the reservoir and the fluid pump several times; man there was soo much of that thick blue slushy. On second thought, I'm thinking somebody might've put 100% thick anti-freeze coolant in it because they put water in it before and it froze and when the ice expanded, the pump got pushed out and I'm guessing they put pure anti-freeze hoping to melt the water. I'm glad to say, it is fully working now after I've cleaned it and put it back in place. One problem I have now is that I hear the wheel-bearing type of noise. Took it to the dealer and they said they were not able to diagnose it as bad wheel bearings. I very much hear the noise when I'm turning or just driving on a nice curvy road. Would you be able to think of any other issues that could cause that noise? I have KUMO tires on and they seem to be in a good condition. The front brake pads are still good and I have not checked the rear brake pads yet. I once had a wheel bearing problem on my 2012 Honda accord and a local mechanic shop changed the wrong wheel bearing. They thought it was the front left but it ended up being the front right wheel. He made me buy the whole wheel hub assembly because it was cheaper to buy that and install it than to change just the bearing. I was disappointed that they've done this so I rented a wheel bearing tool from Orileys and changed just the other bearing myself. After these incidents, I find it hard to believe a mechanic if he just wants to replace parts without doing much diagnostics. Again, thanks for your videos. Now I know what to look for if these common issues occur to me; and thank you very much for reading my rant. Hope you continue making videos on Hondas.
Hey man thanks for your much in depth comment. Yes do the trans service 1-2 more times and then every 15k going forward. This should help tremendously. Unfortunately when buying used cars shitty previous owner maintenance is always a concern but do what you can now going forward. As far as the noise I would take a very close look at the tires for culling (highs and lows on tires specifically on the inner part of the tire), very common on those and the only solution I have been able to reduce that is rotate tires very frequently. Let me know how it goes and thanks again.
@@BCautosolutions Can you please explain what you mean by “people who follow the terrible maintenance minder”? I’ve been seeing a lot of videos saying that automakers’ auto fluid change schedules are not frequent enough for some situations. Is that what you mean? Thanks (I don’t have a Pilot, but I do have the mechanically almost identical 2021 Passport).
I was looking into getting a 2019 Pilot but not if I have to drain and fill the ATF every 15k. That’s absurd! My 2007 Accord V6 gets drained and filled every 60k and it’s always been pink when drained.
Good to know. In addition if you have an AWD with the ZF 9 speed the ONLY way to put it in neutral manually is to have a tool that turns a little shaft on top of the trans and holds in the neutral position. Its spring loaded so the tool has to stay in place should your car ever have to be winched up onto the tow truck. Honda sells their own tool ($$) or if your like me I made my own. It consists of a handle that stays on the shaft and a pin that is dropped into the end of the handle to hold it in place. I also have a $12 circuit that disables the auto stop/start feature..:)
Great video, my man. I would love for you to work on my 2019 Honda pilot elite currently has 77,400 miles I’ve got Honda care warranty eight years/120 thousand miles . I was wondering if I could have you work on it, are you at a Honda dealership? Intermittently car runs rough throws itself into neutral, and finally stalls, it would start right back up but lately it’s been doing it more often at least twice a day and all it does is just cranks at least four or five cycles before it decides to start again Edit: Honda got involved and it ended up being an EGR valve. Odd thing is it never set off a code or a check engine light. Fingers crossed the repair sticks.
Whith the pilot even the 2017 6 speed transmission or 9 speed are jerky transmissions.....litterally need to change the trans fluid every few thousand miles....draining the transmission fluid is a mist for these cars.
For the 9zf tranny, If do it at home without the scan tool to read the tranny temperature, can I measure the amount coming out, and put the same back into the tranny? It’s best to let pilot be cold to perform this procedure? Looking forward for your respond. Also, if you have a chance to make a video( if you are serving)of changing the 9zf tranny fluid that be great! Thank you for all your video content!! I am a diy.
Yes exactly, measure what comes out and put in the exact same amount (assuming there are no leaks). Sometimes things are too complicated and can be simplified very easily. I will definitely make a video. Thanks for the support!
I have a 2022 SE, but I didn't hear anything about transmission issues. My 9-speed is absolutely terrible. You never know what each gear shift is going to do. Sometimes it is buttery smooth, then the next one will be like a hard sport shift. When coming to a stop, the downshifts feel like someone is hitting the brakes multiple times as it downshifts to each lower gear. And once you are moving, the throttle response is like an on/off switch and goes from 0 to 15% so there is absolutely no way to press on the gas without feeling the car move forward. My wife yells at me that I'm making her sick when I'm trying to maintain 40 MPH because every time the throttle is pushed or released you can feel it in the car. I have driven nothing but Hondas since 1997, but I think I just bought my last one. I do appreciate the video though, because now I know what to look out for.
So much of what I thought was the transmission in my 2019 Passport was actually that awful VCM "feature" kicking engine cylinders on and off to keep the EPA happy. Installing a VCM Tuner was like getting a new car.
We have a 2020 pilot 6 SPD 50k miles coming the end of a long lease. Got the trans judder! (Never changed fluid maybe once? ) also have a fairly big leak between transfer case and trans which I was surprised at. Also Had the cracking noise coming from the dash on and off. Otherwise good but IMHO that's bad for a honder
Yes, it’s very frustrating both for the consumer and the technicians. Luckily 2023 models are around the corner, hopefully they dropped the MOST system and have the proven 10at mated to a 3.5L version of the current tlx/mdx - S quad cam non turbo.
Front end collision sensor is way to sensitive. Engine stop override should be one and done not every time you start the car. $299 for transmission drain and fill at dealer, rear diff is $199 and suppose to be done every 15K. First and last Honda I buy, back to Mitsubishi.
Dam. Bro.. i been wanting to upgrade my 2013 Ridgeline for a 2022 model.. but i get nervous to go from column shifter a 5spd transmission to a electric button 9spd.... As qx mechanic Do you recommend to buy the newer Ridgeline or stick to the gen1 in regards of the 9spd and vcm Vs no vcm vtech n 5spd auto transmission
Hey! Appreciate your videos. We bought a 2019 Pilot a few months ago, shortly after purchase; transmission jolting back and forth going up hills, dealership found no issue, few weeks later car broke down, dealership replaced battery and transmission, 1 month later the car broke down in the middle of the interstate with our kids in the car (same breakdown scenario, car downshifting and won't accelerate then bunch of blinking warning lights on dash, then car won't restart) now dealership is saying something about fuel delivery system. But we're scared to get back in this car, do you have any advice?
Something is making my reverse shift button stiff and I did get the errors you were talking about. It ‘fixed’ itself but the button still feels stiff. Any chance I could easily repair at home?
I have a 2016 pilot the seat heater are partially working the bottom part on passenger and driver side doesn't work but the back part does so i can tell it's not the fuse, i need help .😢😢
Have you heard of or found a repair in the rear hatch leaks? Mine doesn't seem to leak into the hatch but instead leaks into the door frame, leaks through the interior trim then into the rear driver side compartment.
Negative in both. The boots are always oily but not actually leaking unless your referring to something else. No oil pump seepage yet on these that I’ve noticed.
Just what mentioned. 6at has juddeing issues sometimes leading to torque converter and or trans replacements. The 9at shifts weird sometimes but solid otherwise. Also leaks at the front diff seals.
Just want to tell you ,you have a great resourceful channel on hondas love your channel bud haven't had these issues yet lol.i have 6spd bought the car with 27k I have 30k on it now.wasnt a fan of the push button so I got a exl with nav and res.first thing I did when I got car from dealer is my big 30k .changed air filter ,rear diff,transmission fluid ,oil change .all my hondas I've always changed my transmission every 15 k cause I don't drive much so I go by years .and also change oil every 3k still but all my hondas had over 450k .my old 91 accord has 980k now same engine and transmission.
first off thank you for the support and sharing your story. Great maintenance goes a long way and it shows as by all your examples. Nearly 1 million miles is something that shouldn't go unrecognized and kudos to you sir. id love to hear more about your 91 accord maybe some pictures that i can share on here or even on my Instagram. If your interested shoot me an email at bcautosolutions20@gmail.com
Are you aware of loud rear suspension noise on a 2019 pilot touring? I tried replacing the sway bar bushing with no luck noise is still there. Its not clunking or meta noise but it sounds like a rubber mallet hitting the sub frame every dips on the road. Please help
We do see a common issue with rear parking brake shoes rattling over bumps. We also see the parking brake cable holders rattling. adjusting and tightening both of those items usually helps significantly
@Hondamobilemechanic thanks for the quick reply. Is there like a TSB that I could see online? Is this can be visually seen or its i lnsise the wheel hub?
I don’t recall mentioning the sky falling…..weird. Regardless of what causes the issues, this is what I’m seeing in the shop on a weekly basis, so yes that qualifies as common issues.
Only issue I'm having is my led headlights projector not jewel headlights I'm not sure what's up with them but the light output is not great seems they are shooting out to far I have a big gap from fog to headlight dead spot the output is far not sure if you run into output on led projector headlights thinking of adjusting them lower .your input please on this
yes, if you think they are aiming too far out i would most definitely try and adjust them down a bit little by little until they are at a desired height. lmk how it goes.
Hi does 2019 to 2022 have earth dreams issue with direction injection, changing fuel injectors or this doesnt have it.. does tihs also have timing belt or timing chain.. pls advise .. do you recommend to buy 2023 modell or 2022 used one
@@BCautosolutions thanks. if you think 23 has better powertrain than 2019-22 model, i willl wait go with 23 model then 19 model. All direct injection have carbon build up issues, doesnt honda have that issue. ?.
Transmission fluid drain and fills are such a rip-off, way worse than an oil change. Changing ATF is easier than changing oil. Your fluid is $50-$80 depending on where you live. Pop the drain plug, drain, replace crush washer, refill through the dipstick holder with a little funnel and a longer one. You don’t have to change the filter. Save yourself $100-150 if you have a 3/8 ratchet, ramps and a little kitchen funnel.
@@pragmaticoptimist46 yes absolutely if you can do it yourself then I encourage 💯. Fact is most people don’t want to be bothered but on a simple setup like the 6at and even the 9at it’s easily doable. On the 10at (offered on the 2023 pilot) sometimes can be a lot less space friendly due to fill location. Anyways appreciate your input and thanks for watching!
All valid points. I’m on the 3rd set of rotor pads, 15-20k and they start causing vibrations. Transmission, been doing ATF d&f every 10k, also had to install the ATF cooler to lower running temps. VCM muzzler is a must, totally changes how the car drives and tranny fluid doesn’t get burnt as fast. Compliance bushings on the front control arms start tearing at 30-40k mark.
@@BCautosolutions it surprised me as well. I bought it brand new and when I took it to the dealer for its 2 year inspection they noticed an oil leak. First they thought it was an engine leak, then a transmission leak. After a tear down of the transmission, it was determined to be the head gasket. After waiting 3 months for the part to come in because it back ordered, I was told it couldn't be installed because there were pits and scratches in the engine cylinder. WTH?? My service advisor kept telling me I was getting a whole new engine (under warranty) but after I showed a few people the notes on my receipt they said it was just an overhaul. I am very disappointed by this. And I know it wasn't the dealers fault but I'm pissed that no one could offer me any explanation as to why this happened on a NEW car. This is probably the last Pilot I will purchase.
@Hondamobilemechanic , My 2021 Pilot Special Edition has been popping up multiple dash warnings (Emissions, AWD, etc..). It went away by itself a few months ago after a week but seems to have reappeared this morning. Any idea what's causing this? Also, when I drive on extreme inclines, I smell a burning smell like rubber burning. Thanks in advance.
@Hondamobilemechanic Thanks so much for replaying. The check engine light went away for the second time but just reappeared. It’s throwing a P0441. Also the AWD warning stays on for a day or two from initial onset. I’m at had 43k miles. Not sure if extended warranty will cover this.
I have same problem on my 2020 pilot exl. did you figure it out? it said fuel injectors issues, but im sure i need to do transmission flush. never knew it need to be changed every 15k its crazy. I could not find the source of the burning smell.
I purchased a 2019 EX-L with 55K. Not sure if the transmission fluid was ever changed, so I went ahead and did a 3x drain and fill as well as changed the filter. How do you tell if the transmission was damaged?
In this day and age transmission fluids come high in detergents. How many drain and fills is over kill? I figure one at every 15k interval would enough to dilute the old stuff?
@@BCautosolutions when it slow down it not smooth...feel like something stuck in engine but when i speed up highway i feel it smooth...idk what happen.. this thursday i check with dealer.. it still under quaranty
Honda with 6 speed transmission every 15,000 miles. I don’t believe you because the ones that have that low mile to change fluid would the Subarus with CVT’s i need sources to see that. NO CAP
Do you know why I get this message got it 2 times Anti Theft System This system has lost power. Push and hold the power button for more than two seconds to enable the system Solution for this
The audio system? I’d check you battery terminals and twist them as hard as you can to make sure they’re tight. Could have some relays sticking possibly too.
@Hondamobilemechanic I checked them there good a d clean .yesterday was a very bitter freezing day after snow storm and its 18 degrees out very windy probably one of tge coldest we had might play a part on a cold start you think .never did it before it just happened 2 times .maybe a tale of replacing battery as we talked about preventative maintenance maybe .car was made 7/19 .it's a 2020 so it's origanal equipment
I just had the front head assembly replaced in my 2019 Pilot EXL. It was really just the camshaft, but since that part was on national backorder and my Pilot was still under powertrain warranty at less than 50K miles, they replaced the entire head assembly because they could get that part sooner. This will probably be the last Honda I ever buy.
These sound like relatively minor issues. Knowing this, would you recommend the 20/21/22 pilot? CPO lease trades are at an attractive price now compared to the msrp + markup on the 23 redesign.
@@BCautosolutions yes I agree it seems like it would be more robust long term, just not sure it’s worth the 10k+ premium at the moment. Edit: that 10k I’m referring to is the cpo price of a 20’ vs a 23’ new. Add in dealer markups and it’s between 15-20k. It’s tough to justify paying 20k more for a 23 exl vs a 20 elite
@@BCautosolutions yea my thinking as well. Just trying to convince myself it’s the right choice. The highlander is too small inside and 23 pilots are out of my price range. I think 19-22 is the best available option
This guy knows what's up! I did the infotainment self repair, from your other video, on my 2021 touring and have had zero issues since the repair. His channel is a good one to subscribe to and watch all of his videos. Thank you!
Thank you! Glad I was able to help you out, that’s the exact point of these videos. 💪🏼
@Hondamobilemechanic I'll be ordering a brake switch so I'll have it in the tool box when the time comes, keep up the great work. Merry Christmas
@@52tippy yep, it’s cheap enough. Thank you and likewise 👍🏻
Hey man, thank you very much for the advice. You're the only person on TH-cam discussing this transmission jittering issue with Honda pilots. About 2 months ago, I was on the market for 2017-2020 Honda pilots, 6-speed ones. I test-drove about 6 cars, and 4 of them had some sort of transmission jittering issue. One of them was so bad that I had to stop driving because the salesperson thought something was wrong with the car. Only 2 were without problems and they were both at the Honda Dealership where I'm assuming they have changed the fluid because those cars had to be certified. I bought one from Rick Case Hyundai/ Genesis/ Kia/Audi dealership in Duluth, Georgia, and it had the same issue. I felt the jittering at low-speed gear shifting but I still ended up buying the car because they gave me 10 years 100k, engine, transmission, and drive-axle warranty and it had a very clean interior. After driving for a few hundred miles, the jittering issue started irritating me. So I followed your advice to drain-fill it three times (I wanted to do three but I only had 8 bottles of DW-1, Honda Genuine trans fluid, so I've only done two times), and man, I'm telling you, the transmission felt so much better right away. I say, 90% of the jittering was gone. It had 65K miles at the time, and I'm guessing the previous owner never changed the trans fluid because the fluid was soo dark and the magnetic drain plug had so much black thick tar-like stuff on it. I've driven about 8K miles after those flushes and now I want to do another flush. Hope it fixes the very little jittering that's left in it. I've changed the oil once already and going to do one very soon. I'm a bit worried that the previous owner might not have taken care of it well because I do not see much carfax service/oil change history on it. It had a clogged windshield wiper fluid reservoir filter because the blue wiper fluid it had in the reservoir broke down and created a thick blue slushy. The fluid pump came out of the reservoir socket, I'm guessing because the water could not pass through the filter. I took it to my local Honda dealership and they said the whole reservoir and the pump need to be replaced and it's $490 total. I thought that was excessive, so I decided to buy an aftermarket reservoir and motor for $50 and change it myself. When I took the wheel cover off to inspect, I found out that the fluid pump is running but it popped out of the socket. I was not able to take the whole reservoir off because it would require me to take the front bumper off, and I felt it was not worth it. Kinda frustrating that Honda put the reservoir bolts in out-of-view places. I was able to clean the filter and everything, and ran water through the reservoir and the fluid pump several times; man there was soo much of that thick blue slushy. On second thought, I'm thinking somebody might've put 100% thick anti-freeze coolant in it because they put water in it before and it froze and when the ice expanded, the pump got pushed out and I'm guessing they put pure anti-freeze hoping to melt the water. I'm glad to say, it is fully working now after I've cleaned it and put it back in place. One problem I have now is that I hear the wheel-bearing type of noise. Took it to the dealer and they said they were not able to diagnose it as bad wheel bearings. I very much hear the noise when I'm turning or just driving on a nice curvy road. Would you be able to think of any other issues that could cause that noise? I have KUMO tires on and they seem to be in a good condition. The front brake pads are still good and I have not checked the rear brake pads yet. I once had a wheel bearing problem on my 2012 Honda accord and a local mechanic shop changed the wrong wheel bearing. They thought it was the front left but it ended up being the front right wheel. He made me buy the whole wheel hub assembly because it was cheaper to buy that and install it than to change just the bearing. I was disappointed that they've done this so I rented a wheel bearing tool from Orileys and changed just the other bearing myself. After these incidents, I find it hard to believe a mechanic if he just wants to replace parts without doing much diagnostics. Again, thanks for your videos. Now I know what to look for if these common issues occur to me; and thank you very much for reading my rant. Hope you continue making videos on Hondas.
Hey man thanks for your much in depth comment.
Yes do the trans service 1-2 more times and then every 15k going forward. This should help tremendously.
Unfortunately when buying used cars shitty previous owner maintenance is always a concern but do what you can now going forward.
As far as the noise I would take a very close look at the tires for culling (highs and lows on tires specifically on the inner part of the tire), very common on those and the only solution I have been able to reduce that is rotate tires very frequently.
Let me know how it goes and thanks again.
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V6 Hondas/Acuras (including the Pilot) have Cylinder Deactivation. Is that a common problem too?
Yes on the older models and typically it’s people who follow the terrible maintenance minder.
@@BCautosolutions Can you please explain what you mean by “people who follow the terrible maintenance minder”?
I’ve been seeing a lot of videos saying that automakers’ auto fluid change schedules are not frequent enough for some situations. Is that what you mean? Thanks
(I don’t have a Pilot, but I do have the mechanically almost identical 2021 Passport).
I was looking into getting a 2019 Pilot but not if I have to drain and fill the ATF every 15k. That’s absurd! My 2007 Accord V6 gets drained and filled every 60k and it’s always been pink when drained.
Yup I agree
Good to know. In addition if you have an AWD with the ZF 9 speed the ONLY way to put it in neutral manually is to have a tool that turns a little shaft on top of the trans and holds in the neutral position. Its spring loaded so the tool has to stay in place should your car ever have to be winched up onto the tow truck. Honda sells their own tool ($$) or if your like me I made my own. It consists of a handle that stays on the shaft and a pin that is dropped into the end of the handle to hold it in place. I also have a $12 circuit that disables the auto stop/start feature..:)
I’d be interested to see the tool if you wouldn’t mind sending me some pics. Bcautosolutions20@gmail.com thanks for the response!
Great video, my man. I would love for you to work on my 2019 Honda pilot elite currently has 77,400 miles
I’ve got Honda care warranty eight years/120 thousand miles . I was wondering if I could have you work on it, are you at a Honda dealership?
Intermittently car runs rough throws itself into neutral, and finally stalls, it would start right back up but lately it’s been doing it more often at least twice a day and all it does is just cranks at least four or five cycles before it decides to start again
Edit: Honda got involved and it ended up being an EGR valve. Odd thing is it never set off a code or a check engine light. Fingers crossed the repair sticks.
Whith the pilot even the 2017 6 speed transmission or 9 speed are jerky transmissions.....litterally need to change the trans fluid every few thousand miles....draining the transmission fluid is a mist for these cars.
@@chinmonmon they are problematic in different ways.
Wow Honda still has fragile transmissions ….. glad I watched this. Was thinking of going back but I’ll stick with Toyota.
The 2023 pilot comes with the proven and trusted 10at. If your in the market for a pilot, that’s the one you want.
For the 9zf tranny, If do it at home without the scan tool to read the tranny temperature, can I measure the amount coming out, and put the same back into the tranny? It’s best to let pilot be cold to perform this procedure? Looking forward for your respond. Also, if you have a chance to make a video( if you are serving)of changing the 9zf tranny fluid that be great! Thank you for all your video content!! I am a diy.
Yes exactly, measure what comes out and put in the exact same amount (assuming there are no leaks). Sometimes things are too complicated and can be simplified very easily. I will definitely make a video. Thanks for the support!
Thanks brother. I own a 2008 Accord coupe 2.4l and a 2012 Acura MDX 3.7l and love both. No issues.
Both great cars. Only problem with that 2.4 is the vtc gear and oil consumption. If you do regular maintenance more times then not you’ll be ok.
I have a 2022 SE, but I didn't hear anything about transmission issues. My 9-speed is absolutely terrible. You never know what each gear shift is going to do. Sometimes it is buttery smooth, then the next one will be like a hard sport shift. When coming to a stop, the downshifts feel like someone is hitting the brakes multiple times as it downshifts to each lower gear. And once you are moving, the throttle response is like an on/off switch and goes from 0 to 15% so there is absolutely no way to press on the gas without feeling the car move forward. My wife yells at me that I'm making her sick when I'm trying to maintain 40 MPH because every time the throttle is pushed or released you can feel it in the car. I have driven nothing but Hondas since 1997, but I think I just bought my last one.
I do appreciate the video though, because now I know what to look out for.
Sorry to hear that. The 9AT in my 21 and my wife's 23 Passport shift great.
So much of what I thought was the transmission in my 2019 Passport was actually that awful VCM "feature" kicking engine cylinders on and off to keep the EPA happy. Installing a VCM Tuner was like getting a new car.
Did you say every FIFTEEN thousand miles or every FIFTY thousand miles? THAT...would be a significant difference! (for the transmission fluid)
15,000 mile intervals.
We have a 2020 pilot 6 SPD 50k miles coming the end of a long lease. Got the trans judder! (Never changed fluid maybe once? ) also have a fairly big leak between transfer case and trans which I was surprised at. Also Had the cracking noise coming from the dash on and off. Otherwise good but IMHO that's bad for a honder
Yep, you have listed pretty much common issues. Luckily there’s a fix for all of those!
Shocked that a 2022 model would have these issues. Honda should have worked out the bugs beforehand.
Yes, it’s very frustrating both for the consumer and the technicians. Luckily 2023 models are around the corner, hopefully they dropped the MOST system and have the proven 10at mated to a 3.5L version of the current tlx/mdx - S quad cam non turbo.
@@BCautosolutions yeah but 2023 is a whole new redesign who knows what issues that will have....
@@thepoliticallyindependent1512 like any other manufacturer, issues shall arise we could only assume.
Front end collision sensor is way to sensitive. Engine stop override should be one and done not every time you start the car. $299 for transmission drain and fill at dealer, rear diff is $199 and suppose to be done every 15K. First and last Honda I buy, back to Mitsubishi.
Best of luck.
Dam. Bro.. i been wanting to upgrade my 2013 Ridgeline for a 2022 model.. but i get nervous to go from column shifter a 5spd transmission to a electric button 9spd....
As qx mechanic Do you recommend to buy the newer Ridgeline or stick to the gen1 in regards of the 9spd and vcm
Vs no vcm vtech n 5spd auto transmission
New one gets my vote.
Hey! Appreciate your videos. We bought a 2019 Pilot a few months ago, shortly after purchase; transmission jolting back and forth going up hills, dealership found no issue, few weeks later car broke down, dealership replaced battery and transmission, 1 month later the car broke down in the middle of the interstate with our kids in the car (same breakdown scenario, car downshifting and won't accelerate then bunch of blinking warning lights on dash, then car won't restart) now dealership is saying something about fuel delivery system. But we're scared to get back in this car, do you have any advice?
Hey sorry to hear about your experience. If you can get me some trouble codes I can better guide you and give you my advise.
@Hondamobilemechanic hey thanks for getting back to me! They are saying the code is P0087, which is apparently the rail/system pressure?
@@brookeshizzle I’ll get back to you
Something is making my reverse shift button stiff and I did get the errors you were talking about. It ‘fixed’ itself but the button still feels stiff. Any chance I could easily repair at home?
Yes, get a new one. Most likely there are crumbs on a sticky liquid In there.
Transmission fluid every 20k miles LMAO. It's not a CVT
@@Brisco_County_Jr speaking from zero experience from these cars does you zero good
My ‘21 se makes a slight click sound when decelerating. Any idea of what’s going on?
Would have to hear it
I have a 2016 pilot the seat heater are partially working the bottom part on passenger and driver side doesn't work but the back part does so i can tell it's not the fuse, i need help .😢😢
It’s the heating elements
Have you heard of or found a repair in the rear hatch leaks? Mine doesn't seem to leak into the hatch but instead leaks into the door frame, leaks through the interior trim then into the rear driver side compartment.
That’s usually missing seam sealer somewhere
What about carbon build up behind the intake valves of the DI engines? Anyone noticed this issue so far?
The times I have replaced the injectors and take a peek, it’s not that bad at all.
Have you noticed any Axle Boots failing? i.e. passenger front especially… or oil pump seepages?
Negative in both. The boots are always oily but not actually leaking unless your referring to something else. No oil pump seepage yet on these that I’ve noticed.
@@BCautosolutions we have seen some with Ridgelines and Passports certain years higher miles… no Pilots however
My grandma has a 2022 Pilot SE with the 9 speed, she wants to keep it for a long time, will it last 200k or more miles?
My 2019 has a little over 200k and it's still going strong with regular maintenance
For sure it can.
sounds like a piece of junk. There is also the cylinder deactivation that's a little concerning.
All cars have problems, I’m reporting them while others are being silent. Vcm has not been an issue with the earth dreams engines like this one
Are you finding any major problems with the drivetrain in these Pilots?
Just what mentioned. 6at has juddeing issues sometimes leading to torque converter and or trans replacements. The 9at shifts weird sometimes but solid otherwise. Also leaks at the front diff seals.
the push button shifter, I HATE those, always had a feeling it's going to shit one day due to water or some other stuff
Yep
Just want to tell you ,you have a great resourceful channel on hondas love your channel bud haven't had these issues yet lol.i have 6spd bought the car with 27k I have 30k on it now.wasnt a fan of the push button so I got a exl with nav and res.first thing I did when I got car from dealer is my big 30k .changed air filter ,rear diff,transmission fluid ,oil change .all my hondas I've always changed my transmission every 15 k cause I don't drive much so I go by years .and also change oil every 3k still but all my hondas had over 450k .my old 91 accord has 980k now same engine and transmission.
first off thank you for the support and sharing your story. Great maintenance goes a long way and it shows as by all your examples. Nearly 1 million miles is something that shouldn't go unrecognized and kudos to you sir. id love to hear more about your 91 accord maybe some pictures that i can share on here or even on my Instagram. If your interested shoot me an email at bcautosolutions20@gmail.com
980K.. Holy Cow!
Well on a 2021 honda pilot I changed spark plugs and now all my dash lights are on what I need to do.
Reset the battery
Are you aware of loud rear suspension noise on a 2019 pilot touring? I tried replacing the sway bar bushing with no luck noise is still there. Its not clunking or meta noise but it sounds like a rubber mallet hitting the sub frame every dips on the road. Please help
We do see a common issue with rear parking brake shoes rattling over bumps. We also see the parking brake cable holders rattling. adjusting and tightening both of those items usually helps significantly
@Hondamobilemechanic thanks for the quick reply. Is there like a TSB that I could see online? Is this can be visually seen or its i lnsise the wheel hub?
Most of what you call problems are simply human error or lack of maintenance not a situation where the sky is falling
I don’t recall mentioning the sky falling…..weird. Regardless of what causes the issues, this is what I’m seeing in the shop on a weekly basis, so yes that qualifies as common issues.
I don’t drive expensive overprice cars but I am a tech and I work on them! Awesome video thanks!
Thanks!
Only issue I'm having is my led headlights projector not jewel headlights I'm not sure what's up with them but the light output is not great seems they are shooting out to far I have a big gap from fog to headlight dead spot the output is far not sure if you run into output on led projector headlights thinking of adjusting them lower .your input please on this
yes, if you think they are aiming too far out i would most definitely try and adjust them down a bit little by little until they are at a desired height. lmk how it goes.
Good video bro, I have a 2019 Honda pilot with DTC p0087. What do you think that could be?
Thanks! One of the fuel pumps or the fuel pressure sensor/rail
Hi does 2019 to 2022 have earth dreams issue with direction injection, changing fuel injectors or this doesnt have it..
does tihs also have timing belt or timing chain.. pls advise .. do you recommend to buy 2023 modell or 2022 used one
Some injector issues, the 16-18 fail a lot more. This car and the 23+ both have a timing belt. The 23+ has a better powertrain combo.
@@BCautosolutions thanks. if you think 23 has better powertrain than 2019-22 model, i willl wait go with 23 model then 19 model. All direct injection have carbon build up issues, doesnt honda have that issue. ?.
@@sivucit yes but not to the extent of some of these other manufacturers
Transmission fluid drain and fills are such a rip-off, way worse than an oil change. Changing ATF is easier than changing oil. Your fluid is $50-$80 depending on where you live. Pop the drain plug, drain, replace crush washer, refill through the dipstick holder with a little funnel and a longer one. You don’t have to change the filter. Save yourself $100-150 if you have a 3/8 ratchet, ramps and a little kitchen funnel.
Forgot to mention….great video by the way. Awesome content.
@@pragmaticoptimist46 yes absolutely if you can do it yourself then I encourage 💯. Fact is most people don’t want to be bothered but on a simple setup like the 6at and even the 9at it’s easily doable. On the 10at (offered on the 2023 pilot) sometimes can be a lot less space friendly due to fill location. Anyways appreciate your input and thanks for watching!
All valid points. I’m on the 3rd set of rotor pads, 15-20k and they start causing vibrations. Transmission, been doing ATF d&f every 10k, also had to install the ATF cooler to lower running temps. VCM muzzler is a must, totally changes how the car drives and tranny fluid doesn’t get burnt as fast. Compliance bushings on the front control arms start tearing at 30-40k mark.
All excellent points from my view as a 19 Pilot who maintains it. I did the front rotors at 15k miles myself.
Thanks for the input!
I noticed water intrusion in my 2020 Pilot and I am wondering whether that is the cause of the brake switch failure you are mentioning.
Haven’t seen any water intrusion on that area of any Pilot and not wet or rusted switch either but have it checked out for sure
Awesome video thanks for sharing! I noticed there are alot of brand new 2022 Honda pilots new on the lot, not sold yet!
Thank you! Time to get those at a discount!
What about after market rotors?
Just not enough mass on them
I dont about you guys but there has been shortage of 3.1 fluid we haven't had any in about a month
We rarely sell it but thanks for the heads up, I always have my personal inventory lmao
Hi
My honda pilot is missing the navigation link. How can i added back?
Try unplugging the battery for 5-10 mins. Let me know the outcome
Would you recommend a 2022 2.0T Accord for a solid and reliable car?
Yes, absolutely
@@BCautosolutions thanks bro!
@@SIIKAP1 anytime
is there any software updates for the 9ZF transmission ?
Most likely
Do you have any recommendations for good replacement parts like the rotors that won’t warp
Mdx/tlx Type S rotors/calipers comes to mind. Don’t think it’s a straight up bolt on process tho.
Iwas looking to buy a Honda Passport, but not anymore.
Don’t forget to look up common issues on its competitors. 👍🏻
Please do one on the second gen Ridgeline
Believe it or not, I’ve been trying for weeks and can’t get one to line up with my schedule. I’m on it as soon as I can.
I have a 2020 and I’ve already had to have a leaking head gasket replaced and an entire engine overhaul. I am not happy. 😤
On a pilot? Wow that’s surprising
@@BCautosolutions it surprised me as well. I bought it brand new and when I took it to the dealer for its 2 year inspection they noticed an oil leak. First they thought it was an engine leak, then a transmission leak. After a tear down of the transmission, it was determined to be the head gasket. After waiting 3 months for the part to come in because it back ordered, I was told it couldn't be installed because there were pits and scratches in the engine cylinder. WTH?? My service advisor kept telling me I was getting a whole new engine (under warranty) but after I showed a few people the notes on my receipt they said it was just an overhaul. I am very disappointed by this. And I know it wasn't the dealers fault but I'm pissed that no one could offer me any explanation as to why this happened on a NEW car. This is probably the last Pilot I will purchase.
I got that crackling noise in my audio!
Ring her in 👍🏻
@Hondamobilemechanic , My 2021 Pilot Special Edition has been popping up multiple dash warnings (Emissions, AWD, etc..). It went away by itself a few months ago after a week but seems to have reappeared this morning. Any idea what's causing this? Also, when I drive on extreme inclines, I smell a burning smell like rubber burning. Thanks in advance.
Would need a dtc to have any idea. If I had to guess either the fuel cap inhibitor, pressure switch for trans, or purge valve.
@Hondamobilemechanic
Thanks so much for replaying. The check engine light went away for the second time but just reappeared. It’s throwing a P0441. Also the AWD warning stays on for a day or two from initial onset. I’m at had 43k miles. Not sure if extended warranty will cover this.
I have same problem on my 2020 pilot exl. did you figure it out? it said fuel injectors issues, but im sure i need to do transmission flush. never knew it need to be changed every 15k its crazy. I could not find the source of the burning smell.
@@mikhaan183m0 mine was under extended warranty so they fixed it. It was a minor and inexpensive issue. The service tech fixed it in 5 minutes.
Sounds like a crappy transmission
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Yeah, we had warped rotors on our 2022 pilot. It wasn't bad but it was noticeable. They resurfaced them for free.
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I purchased a 2019 EX-L with 55K. Not sure if the transmission fluid was ever changed, so I went ahead and did a 3x drain and fill as well as changed the filter.
How do you tell if the transmission was damaged?
Any lights? Any crazy harsh shifts or engagement? I’m assuming you have the 6at? If it’s still super dark do it again twice.
In this day and age transmission fluids come high in detergents. How many drain and fills is over kill? I figure one at every 15k interval would enough to dilute the old stuff?
My honda pilot 2020 idk why slow gas it ll start slow moving.. but with high speed it s ok
Sorry I don’t understand
@@BCautosolutions when it slow down it not smooth...feel like something stuck in engine but when i speed up highway i feel it smooth...idk what happen.. this thursday i check with dealer.. it still under quaranty
@@HannahLoften let me known
Thank you for this! Do these issues also apply to late model Ridgelines as well?
Yes and no, some yes although some are different. I made a ridgeline video just like this one recently.
So you don't recommend the 1.5lt engine?
No, it’s a terrible engine.
Thanks brother.
@@luismarty1685 anytime
What is the reason for the warning that the all-wheel drive system has a problem?
Could be a few different reasons, it can even come on due to an engine code so it doesn’t self destruct.
thank you
I assume these problems carry over for the passport as well?
Yes most of them for sure. I will make a separate video on the passport tho.
Honda with 6 speed transmission every 15,000 miles. I don’t believe you because the ones that have that low mile to change fluid would the Subarus with CVT’s i need sources to see that. NO CAP
Ok don’t believe me. It’s happening tho. “No cap”
@@BCautosolutions buddy I need resources. If you say what you say it’s true then where is the proof?
@@ez_556 I have videos on this exact subject. You can go look if you’d like.
@@BCautosolutions every video you make has to have resources. I don’t see it so if you can’t even show me then yeah this is a useless argument
@@ez_556 sounds like you need to make your own channel and dictate how you run it.
Do you know why I get this message got it 2 times
Anti Theft System
This system has lost power. Push and hold the power button for more than two seconds to enable the system
Solution for this
The audio system? I’d check you battery terminals and twist them as hard as you can to make sure they’re tight. Could have some relays sticking possibly too.
@Hondamobilemechanic I checked them there good a d clean .yesterday was a very bitter freezing day after snow storm and its 18 degrees out very windy probably one of tge coldest we had might play a part on a cold start you think .never did it before it just happened 2 times .maybe a tale of replacing battery as we talked about preventative maintenance maybe .car was made 7/19 .it's a 2020 so it's origanal equipment
@@pilot2020 yeah it might be time. Mine failed right around the 3 year 60k mark
@@BCautosolutions I just hit 41k.and I didn't see the error at all again since those 2 times
@@pilot2020 I would still get that battery tested. It’ll fail at the worst time usually 😅
Great video, one question would you go with the 6 speed or the 9 speed transmission?
9at, yes that’s not the popular opinion although we don’t have any issues with them.
Honda atf will last over 200,000 miles. The problem is other parts fail but tech will blame is on old fluid.
No it won’t, you clearly don’t have a clue what your saying.
I just had the front head assembly replaced in my 2019 Pilot EXL. It was really just the camshaft, but since that part was on national backorder and my Pilot was still under powertrain warranty at less than 50K miles, they replaced the entire head assembly because they could get that part sooner. This will probably be the last Honda I ever buy.
Pitted cam im assuming? That’s actually a daily rare occurrence. Good luck with your pilot going forward 👍🏻
Everything this guy said just forget it. I’ve got a Honda with over 150k never changed transmission fluid. He’s paid to say that.
Tik tok on that trans. The time is coming especially being neglected.
@@BCautosolutions tik tok on your stupid Chanel. Misinformation at its finest. You should run as a Democrat congressman with the crap your saying
These sound like relatively minor issues. Knowing this, would you recommend the 20/21/22 pilot? CPO lease trades are at an attractive price now compared to the msrp + markup on the 23 redesign.
I agree they are, i do like the 19-23 pilots and considering everything the 23 is still the better buy long term (knowing what we know this far)
@@BCautosolutions yes I agree it seems like it would be more robust long term, just not sure it’s worth the 10k+ premium at the moment.
Edit: that 10k I’m referring to is the cpo price of a 20’ vs a 23’ new. Add in dealer markups and it’s between 15-20k. It’s tough to justify paying 20k more for a 23 exl vs a 20 elite
@@D0NTsmokeCRACK yeah considering the circumstances I’d probably go with 19-22
@@BCautosolutions yea my thinking as well. Just trying to convince myself it’s the right choice. The highlander is too small inside and 23 pilots are out of my price range. I think 19-22 is the best available option
@@D0NTsmokeCRACK i agree, lmk what you end up choosing. Happy shopping!