Great video, I haven’t seen any other ones on this change. I also think night fae is really underrated. Most people seem to think it’s trash but lowering the cool downs can be great for lining them up and giving some wiggle room
Quirino Mealha Ayyy thanks!! And yeah that won’t be bad! Right now on 4 target aoe in beta, orb is doing about 10% of dps while barrage and explosion are doing around 40% of dps. I am honestly super happy about explosion being uncapped.
Hudson Nicholson yeh I am really happy with all the arcane changes, gcd changes and now this talent swap (also not that much a fan of enlightened). I am rolling Arcane and also mainly focusing on M+ in SL
Hudson Nicholson Why are you feeling Night Fae more btw? Necro 3 target cleave is very good for arcane and kyrian ability is a great addition to the burst combo in single target/pvp
Quirino Mealha i like night rae rn for aoe but kyrian for ST tbh. I was trying to show off the new AOE in this vid so that’s why I favored night fae. Also, beware if the necrolord covenant, I currently do just as much 3 target cleave without using the necrolord ability as I do when using it. That’s bc it only does like 50% to extra targets which is super dumb.
I'm nearly certain Amplification + the Arcane Harmony legendary will be a staple for us. 16 missiles when clearcasted is just insane, buffing our Barrage by 32%(!) to boot. Night Fae (Niya) for triple potency and relevant passives, combined with the Arcane Prodigy soulbind, grants us some crazy uptime on AP with balanced damage output. The execute legendary is cute, but our rotation has way too many spells to take real advantage of it on bosses, and who the hell needs an execute on trash. Even then, its barely more damage (40% Execute vs 32% from Harmony at any time). /shrug Obligatory "wait for sims", but my tinfoil hat here has me pretty convinced. shadowlands.wowhead.com/soulbind-calc/night-fae/niya/mage/AlquAQUjiQ4TBSPpDhUj9g4lJVgO shadowlands.wowhead.com/talent-calc/mage/arcane/m5Bz/3/YLO/ULr/UAt PS: Not to mention the "lol 1shot" potential in PvP. We have 2 instant invisibilities on short CD's the drop combat, enabling a fucking ranged kidney shot thanks to Korayn. Gonna be real silly.
your tinfoil hat havent seen siponed malice i believe? If things go now as they are youre likeley to go kyrian for early potency then swap to KORAYN fey for last talent and then swap to venthyr when youll get some levels in siphoned malice.
Arcane Familiar needs a buff because it does negative damage compared to the other two talents. Supernova needs to do some damage to somewhat compete with reverberate and arcane orb. Honestly if they replace arcane Familiar with Double Arcane Explosion (artifact trait from legion) would be amazing and would give variety to that row between aoe and single target.
Arcane Orb also pairs well with the arcane pressure legendary. With the orb, you will feel more comfortable casting more barrages knowing you can get your 4 stacks back quickly. The arcane pressure legendary may seem too niche but still is tremendous for mythic plus.
Semi Totally! It will be insaaaane in M+ and if frost isn’t the meta, I imagine it will be the best mythic plus legendary. Imagine hitting 3 full stacked arcane blasts into a pack below 35% health, it’s gonna be wiiiiiiiild. But like you said it sucks that the legendary won’t be good for ST.
Jon Vunk As of now that is how I have been playing them, but that’s just because I am familiar with it. I have no clue what will end up being optimal. It will truly just come down to tuning and be decided by sims. So we have a month or so before we find that out.
You definitely want to prioritize using clear casting Arcane Missiles. It does much more damage than Arcane Blast. Especially if you take amplification.
Claudio Vittorio Carta They did not revert it, Rune of Power is currently placed with Arcane Power, Icy Veins, and Combustion. You can check the video at 8:35 to see it being placed with AP.
Arcane echo is maybe a bit like the old trinket of mannoroth in wod. It was really fun back then :D de.wowhead.com/item=124230/prophezeiung-der-furcht?bonus=1801
Really good video! Can't wait to play this! super helpful
Great video man ! you are doing really good mage content :)
Tommy Sinclair Thanks my guy!!!
Im so hyped for arcane. I felt forced to play frost in the beginning of bfa which led me to quit during uldir.. thx for great content
thx for the video
Great video, I haven’t seen any other ones on this change. I also think night fae is really underrated. Most people seem to think it’s trash but lowering the cool downs can be great for lining them up and giving some wiggle room
Good video! PS: Arcane orb is capped at 8 targets which is totally fine
Quirino Mealha Ayyy thanks!! And yeah that won’t be bad! Right now on 4 target aoe in beta, orb is doing about 10% of dps while barrage and explosion are doing around 40% of dps. I am honestly super happy about explosion being uncapped.
Hudson Nicholson yeh I am really happy with all the arcane changes, gcd changes and now this talent swap (also not that much a fan of enlightened). I am rolling Arcane and also mainly focusing on M+ in SL
Hudson Nicholson Why are you feeling Night Fae more btw? Necro 3 target cleave is very good for arcane and kyrian ability is a great addition to the burst combo in single target/pvp
Quirino Mealha i like night rae rn for aoe but kyrian for ST tbh. I was trying to show off the new AOE in this vid so that’s why I favored night fae. Also, beware if the necrolord covenant, I currently do just as much 3 target cleave without using the necrolord ability as I do when using it. That’s bc it only does like 50% to extra targets which is super dumb.
Quirino Mealha Oh hell yeah! Shadowlands is gonna be a good expansion for Arcane hopefully!
i like your vids dude, super positive guy :)
Man out here makin the best mage content in the game. It’s like arcane intellect levels of knowledge
Wright Wilson I appreciate it my guy !!!
Interesting build. The execute legendary would work very well with the build and adds interesting game play.
More love for arcane pls
I'm nearly certain Amplification + the Arcane Harmony legendary will be a staple for us. 16 missiles when clearcasted is just insane, buffing our Barrage by 32%(!) to boot. Night Fae (Niya) for triple potency and relevant passives, combined with the Arcane Prodigy soulbind, grants us some crazy uptime on AP with balanced damage output. The execute legendary is cute, but our rotation has way too many spells to take real advantage of it on bosses, and who the hell needs an execute on trash. Even then, its barely more damage (40% Execute vs 32% from Harmony at any time). /shrug
Obligatory "wait for sims", but my tinfoil hat here has me pretty convinced.
shadowlands.wowhead.com/soulbind-calc/night-fae/niya/mage/AlquAQUjiQ4TBSPpDhUj9g4lJVgO
shadowlands.wowhead.com/talent-calc/mage/arcane/m5Bz/3/YLO/ULr/UAt
PS: Not to mention the "lol 1shot" potential in PvP. We have 2 instant invisibilities on short CD's the drop combat, enabling a fucking ranged kidney shot thanks to Korayn. Gonna be real silly.
your tinfoil hat havent seen siponed malice i believe? If things go now as they are youre likeley to go kyrian for early potency then swap to KORAYN fey for last talent and then swap to venthyr when youll get some levels in siphoned malice.
Arcane Familiar needs a buff because it does negative damage compared to the other two talents.
Supernova needs to do some damage to somewhat compete with reverberate and arcane orb.
Honestly if they replace arcane Familiar with Double Arcane Explosion (artifact trait from legion) would be amazing and would give variety to that row between aoe and single target.
Arcane Orb also pairs well with the arcane pressure legendary. With the orb, you will feel more comfortable casting more barrages knowing you can get your 4 stacks back quickly. The arcane pressure legendary may seem too niche but still is tremendous for mythic plus.
Semi Totally! It will be insaaaane in M+ and if frost isn’t the meta, I imagine it will be the best mythic plus legendary. Imagine hitting 3 full stacked arcane blasts into a pack below 35% health, it’s gonna be wiiiiiiiild. But like you said it sucks that the legendary won’t be good for ST.
So i dont see charged up on talents, is that baseline now??
Furnass Destro Lock So the devs made it included in the new Touch of the Magi ability actually.
14 minute video is 7 Minutes out and a allready a like :)
Chris W. Ay!! Thanks for the support my man!
Soo are the boss fights still a burn and recharge phase rotation for arcane ? Greta video !
Jon Vunk As of now that is how I have been playing them, but that’s just because I am familiar with it. I have no clue what will end up being optimal. It will truly just come down to tuning and be decided by sims. So we have a month or so before we find that out.
so nightfae is the optimal covanent?
lendial Good question! We just don’t know yet tbh. It will come down to tuning and may depend on what spec and type of content you want to do.
You definitely want to prioritize using clear casting Arcane Missiles. It does much more damage than Arcane Blast. Especially if you take amplification.
I though that rune of power was changed and it was now instantly placed when you use your big CD. Did they changed it again?
Claudio Vittorio Carta They did not revert it, Rune of Power is currently placed with Arcane Power, Icy Veins, and Combustion. You can check the video at 8:35 to see it being placed with AP.
Arcane echo is maybe a bit like the old trinket of mannoroth in wod.
It was really fun back then :D
de.wowhead.com/item=124230/prophezeiung-der-furcht?bonus=1801
Really dislinking this change. Preferred when you could select Time Anomally + Enlightened together.. Honestly hope they revert it.
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