I remember going to a tournament once where I did not read the tournament rules beforehand so my list was pretty bad. I ended up playing a guy who must of had some mental problems because this dude just started having an episode during the game. Now he was winning but I had to reassure him the entire time. I have asbergers myself, so it's not like I'm some bastion of mental health. But for two hours I had to babysit a grown man and make sure he didn't throw a tantrum over a game of 40k that he was winning. It was a strange experience to say the least
When I got into painting/collecting/playing 40k, I started with Drukhari as my first army. Those Astral Blades look a hell of a lot better than my Dark Eldar painted with Walmart paints. After painting 1000 points worth of those scrawny, spikey little bastards... Everything seems easy in comparison.
I don't know if this is a horror story or a glory story, but my nephew invited me to an event at an lgs. I never played in stores before, just kitchen tables and buddies basements but I have been playing 25+ years. Turns out it was all kids his age ( 12 to 14 ). So I crushed everyone and handed my nephew all the prizes. Was awesome for him...but I did feel kind of bad from the second I walked in seeing I was the only grown adult playing. But it was also very nice to see him walk off with pretty much an armfull of free stuff. I still don't know if I'm proud or ashamed of this story.
Fun stories to hear. I dealt with a "Pyro" like guy once. Local gaming store where a couple of us were forming the core of a regular gaming group, very low competition, geared for fun. One guy who was the friend of a friend of a friend was there to get involved, started telling everyone he wanted to be called "Wolf" because "...I'm always ending up the leader of any pack I join." :D That went over like a lead balloon for him, as you can imagine.
That no Terrain story reminds me of my very first match on guy artillery fires my Demon Prince off the board first turn and "remembers" turn 2 he wouldn't be allowed to shoot my Demon Prince because of look out sir, damn near almost quit the hobby after such a introduction.
The feel good story is a lot like my own when i was younger. When i was 11 i entered a few Heroscape tournaments at gencon. And i was watching the finals and the winners gave me their prizes. It is one of my happiest memories and kept me gripped in all forms of gaming. My dad was stunned by the kindness and we both stayed up all night building the sets.
One of the few tournaments I went to I had to play "that guy" twice. Once in qualifiers and once for first place in 2nd tier bracket. This was a 500 point game back in 6th as the riptide had just come out. Game one I did ok with my dark Eldar, but his attitude and obscure rules he couldn't back up left me in a bad mood. Shrugged it off and enjoyed the next three games. Last game I got paired with him for first and his comment (I'll leave it to imagination for the younger crowd). I placed models on table, barely paid attention and accepted 2nd place. Told TO if he's ever at a tournament again I'll just take my entry fee back. He was banned from this LFGS's three locations after the next tournament.
I have an old story to tell, seems a fitting video. When I was 20/21 (26 now) I got back into Warhammer and painted a modest force of Salamanders when 8th was in full swing. I'd only played about 4 games total, all of them losses I believe because I didnt have optimal models or strats, but more roleplayed a bit as I thought Salamanders would act in battle. Never minded a loss, always had fun with great open-minded opponents. One week I saw a guy painting his World Eaters/Khorne CSM and I'd never played against a melee focussed army before (only faced DG and Eldar gunlines) so I asked him if he wanted to play next week. Maybe finally my thunder hammers and flamers would be able to see some proper action. To boot, we agreed to play The Relic mission (basically capture the flag, with a single flag in the middle which units can grab and drop on death. Whoever holds it by the end of the game wins) encouraging big melee in the centre for some fun and crazy action. Plus I'd just painted an objective marker of a power sword roleplaying excalibur in a pile of rocks, making a fun little relic to fight over. We agreed to meet next week. When I arrived, he was an hour late, claimed he forgot his CSM and used the Tau army he had on display at the store, and had told me he googled the best strategy to win the Relic gamemode. He forward-deployed his Stealth suits onto the relic to instant capture and then rushed back behind his battlesuit gunline while my short-range Salamanders got annhilated. He also deployed his stealth suits last so I didn't know what he was planning in my deployment... Little old noob me got That Guy'd on Game 5. The only game so far I didn't have fun losing, because even in all my crazy losses I at least got to roast a few people or my opponent let me have a couple nice charges in the end for the culture. I didn't complain though, as it tought me a few valuable lessons about the kinds of people you can meet. Funnily enough I never took him up on an offer for a rematch later. He runs a hobby shop now afaik. I hope he has changed his ways a bit.
I remember when i was a kid and went to GW in Oslo, Norway, Super excited to show my painted nids to people, and the GW staff was like pointing out missed mold lines, and that i used wrong parts like the barbed strangler left sac arm into a venom cannon ( I did becouse to me that looked cooler). That experience ruined my passion for the hobby for several years.
8:02 as someone who is painting purple tau, Purple is a pain in the ass color to paint (even with an airbrush). Like you’d figure it would be easy to paint like blue, but it’s sorta got elements of both painting red and blue so it’s “fucky” for lack of a better term. Also, army painter paint is trash garbage, just get Vallejo (though they do have the best washes in the industry though, and their black and white are decent compared to Citidel abaddon black and corax white)
Ironically army painter's purple and pinky purple speed paints are fucking great and it sounds like you might need them lol Can't say I really get all the hate ap gets. I've found myself using them over Vallejo stuff pretty frequently. Do people just exclusively use them over straight black primer or think the excess medium at the top of fresh pots is what the paint is actually like?
@@scruffybones321 Maybe the speed paints are different but their regular paint line is like the first generation foundation paints and take forever to get them to mix. It also takes two of the metal agitators to get them to mix. They also leave a odd finish. Compared to Vallejo which works right out the bottle.
As the saying goes: "If you can't write, be a critic." I have had so many critics about my painting over the years from people who can't even do a decent base paint finish on a model, that I've lost count. I've been in the hobby for almost 50 years now, gave up actual gaming due to Power Players over the years, but do run regular painting classes for gamers who want to explore the more technical side of the hobby. I recently took under my "painting wing" a couple of young gamers who were being bullied about their painting skills by some people who should really shut their mouths and practice painting more, themselves. Both these youngsters are now learning so fast that they are almost overtaking me, and I'm starting to learn from them :-) I used to love gaming when I was younger, but these power players are killing the hobby for so many new members, and their arrogance is beyond me. I prefer to play fun games, where losing is just part of the learning process, and rules lawyers and power players just made me walk away from the gaming table in the 1990's, as I just couldn't take the constant pressure and bitching from them if they started to lose in any way. I once went up against one opponent who constantly stopped the game to phone Games Workshop about every rule and move turn we played, to the point where he was eventually told to just shut the F*** up and play the game by the GW staff member on the line (He was on speaker-phone mode at the time, and so we all heard what went on, much to his distress and shame). I don't bother with GW games anymore, or their products, just make and collect whatever I like the look of, and have now shocked my fellow club mates with my ex-Disney Skylanders figures that I've painted and added to my fantasy collection :-) I LOVE the background of your Astral Blades Chapter, as they have a mind set that appeals to the darker side of my thoughts about the Astartes (I've already had some serious arguments about how a certain Ultramarines Primarch could be set to start yet another Heresy due to his view of how far the Imperium has fallen from the Utopian ideal it was supposed to become :->), and the colour scheme is very nice. I have a file of over 1200 images of Astartes Chapters, and there are so many Dark Angels successors that I would just LOVE to collect/paint, not for gaming, but just for the sheer FUN of making them. As for these idiots who want to be called by their nicknames and acting like utter scum toward new gamers, well, they need to be culled from the hobby, before they kill it for everyone.
The Necron paintjob story reminded me that I have a '97 White Dwarf Mini sample when they started the lore with the Necrons, I'm going to strip it and paint it in Pawnhub colours/metallic's
I was out of 40k between some time in 4th edition and just recently. The first game I played with my old Tau, I was playing the markerlight rules completely wrong. It made them better than they should have been and not a little better. The rules on how markerlights work have changed *a lot*. I didn't mean to cheat but the way I thought it worked made my crisis suits (which are already pretty good) just terrifying. The game was so one-sided that I researched the rules afterward because I thought the Tau couldn't be that good. They aren't.
Personally im a huge fan of paint schemes that dont reflect the the actual box art or lore i think its just more creative and rewarding to do your own thing but couldn't imagine criticizing someone's else paint scheme or job be it a copy of the box art or be it a custom scheme. Also absolutely love your custom chapter absolutely top tier.
I sometimes fall into "that guy" territory until my opponent realizes I'm genuinely that bad at the game... I love to play. I play ultramarines. I can count on one hand my wins. I lost count of losses. I field old, useless units and I never metagame. I've enjoyed every game and I've made great friends in the process. My friends are always itching to kick my bum, and we always have fun. I just slow the game down sometimes because I'm so bad. Thankfully, only one opponent has been rude to me. I have never replayed him... I wonder why?
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I don't know what a meta Tau list would look like, but if I ever made a Tau army it would 100% include a unit of Vespid Stingwings. I've always thought they were cool!
I had to explain to a younger player once about a game between myself and my best mate (me Dwarves him Dark Elves). He was "you're both meta power gaming and I don't like that type of game". We pointed out "dude we've played these armies against each other for nearly 20 years this is what WE do. Trust me if I play you I dont bring this list I'll bring my "normal" army next week if you like." My normal army was a nice well balanced Dwarf army and me and him had a great close game. During which I explained how after 20 years the fun is trying to catch your mate out with army composition as you both understand each other far too well. I think he got it when
Ha love it when people give themselves their own nicknames and act like it was given to them. Mate of mine started seeing this lass on the metal scene who legit introduced herself as "The Goddess". In 15 years I have never heard another human being refer to her as this.
I'm not too keen on painted Armies that don't reflect their Canon schemes, I'm now predominantly a star wars legion player. That being said I wouldn't dream of criticising another player's paint schemes, even if it's wildly wacky. I fully recognise that it's my own issue and not the other person's and therefore I'm the one at fault. No sense in opening my mouth and revealing my issues/idiocy. Lol
The problem with that is that even within canon there's flexibility. For example the Black Legion has a wide variety of very loyal warbands but many operate relatively independently when Abaddon doesn't need them and they often have their own colour schemes. Way back when I first started it was made clear to me that the reason for having 2 lost legions of space marines was to give room for homebrew chapters/ warbands who could hypothetically still be canon. And armies like Tyranids and Orks are so vast with enough canonical offshoots that a completely new colour scheme could be used and still be acceptable.
@@Generalscorpio sure but within those lines. Ultramarines for example are very clear. I'm happy with canon and homebrew where it's permitted, including a completely homebrewed chapter, I just don't expect to be seeing Guilliman leading it.
Tournament play has ruined tabletop gaming. I would prefer to play in my friend's basement with people I know personally then total strangers in a tournament.
The Astral Blades (spelling?) look great. Nice work! I like the idea that a Dark Angel successor chapter feels the DA have all fallen to chaos. Good lore backstory. Also, I knew a guy who called himself “poncho”. His real name was “Scott” and he had a nice Jewish last name. He told me once that I didn’t know what it was like to be “Latin”… My mother is Puerto Rican. I said okay whatever you say “Scott”….
Our jerk of the group had been playing with us in and out since we were all in middle school, mind you were nearly thirty now. He always chooses what's most powerful, spend hours making spread sheets to max out points and damage. Doesn't paint his army, pays us to do it lol. Never moves troops in formation, makes a huge blob of different unit, which is apparently cool in star wars legion. Finally one of us beat him and he quit playing all together. In middle school I played with a army of crappy painted space marines and a predator tank. He had two or more monoliths, plenty of neurons to. He quit when my predator rolled a ton of sixes in a row and blew up his not so invincible monolith. One of us married his sister so we're stuck with his bullshit. Half of us are Army veterans now, back home finally. We have no tolerance for him at all, we just play without him most of the time lol
Feel so sorry for the gut with the warlord , I have heard it's a nightmare dealing with F.W customer service at times . And I'm one of the lucky one to have a partner who's so awesome , she basically told me I was having a warlord for my 41st birthday ( lockdown stopped it for my 40th ) . Nearly one year on and I'm still building and painting it in-between my sisters and templars.
This is cathartic to me as a coworker I was trying to teach the game would get really mad about the basic rules. Example: he started yelling when he found out you can’t charge after disembarking from a transport that moved. Mind you, he plays votann and can advance sagitaurs and disembark (which is an extra most people don’t usually get). It was extremely off putting. He’s basically treated me like crap every game too and would bitch about rules he didn’t like, everytime. keep in mind I send him my lists so he can literally tailor to it and yet he doesn’t read the rules much before a game and throws fits when he doesn’t like something he reads. I also sent him battlereports/resources for his army but I would always get “im not learning that way”. So he wouldn’t read the rules enough to be knowledgeable, and then proceed to treat me terribly when he gets “surprised” by the most basic of rules. This would have been game number four but there won’t be any games between us from this point on. Lastly, he’s had his votann since they came out and he claims to have “30+ years” playing tabletop games so he’s definitely had time to learn the game.
As long as a person is honestly putting in an effort to paint and learn the game and not be a d**k then I will always encourage them. I have seen players paint like garbage the first few times then end up being some of the best painters playing the game. Same thing with learning the rules and strats where they start off pretty bad but end up doing quite well. Even if someone doesn't end up being on the high end of painting or playing as long as they do put forth an effort and are decent people then hells yeah I got their backs against the few bad apples.
I'd love to put my Dark Angel successor "Raguel's Chosen" (Chapter entirely devoted to hunting the fallen, and yes I did name them after the Angel or Redemption and Vengeance) against your Dark Angels, would be an interesting Narrative given our chapters lore
One time at GW I was playing a game of Fantasy (Warriors of Chaos v Warriors of Chaos) with a buddy. This dude kept stopping by our table making small talk and suddenly started talking about his wife. He had this life story about being a nerd who married the cheerleader and tried to show us pictures (conveniently without him in them). Then he kept talking about how good she was at giving head. He did this very loudly even with little kids over at the table next to us. At this point we went from one word responses to silence. Eventually he got the hint and left to bother someone else. These were the days before the one man store model so they were actually pretty good times.
Gatekeeping in wargaming is by far the worst thing about the hobby. I've never been involved in any other hobby that had as much snobbery and toxic cross talk about what can people afford, what their models look like, how they play etc etc.. There are really good people in wargaming but every hobby shop I've ever been to in almost 30 years in the hobby have had a few of these characters that just shit on everyone and everything.
I was once criticized for the quality of my ork boys because I used army painters quick shade rather than individually shading every single model. At the time I ran with 120 of them. I probably spent a month worth of painting my army. Huge no no
The more I hear these videos, the more I see me not getting to play games at the moment is a good thing. I'd end up socking one of these lads. I'm also a parent ( to some very headstrong boys) so my instinct to tell them off and not let them get away with that shit!
Used to play with a min max custodes player who’d never bother to learn his army rules or read his army faqs but would read mine just to keep his ‘advantage’ over people because he was Alpha and a chad 🙄 he once blatantly yelled out at a hobby shop that I was an easy win for other players
With regards to the tournament scene - I'm part of the organisers for LWG (very low level) but the Kill Team tournaments were running... Sure they're competitive but also very very welcoming to beginners and new players (to the London scene). So it's definitely not something to paint everyone with the same brush
As a Necron player I’m sick of all of the dudes who think every Dynasty needs to be Silver and Green…. Mine is Gunmetal and Red and they look so much better to me, if anyone criticizes them, they can just keep looking at GW box art and stay happy
Let me share with you my first 40k game ever. It took place yesterday (in Milan, Italy). Forgive me in advance for my awful English. first of all you need to know that Italians, on average, are very toxic people in any hobbies based on honesty. well,I have my first 500 points of Cadian, so I ask my local shop owner (great guy) to organise my first match. He calls the guy (informing him about my faction as well) and everything was ready. I had no idea what to do, could barely remember basic rules, so he manages everything. He brings blood angels: the super psycher character, 5 things with jet packs, 5 gold guys with wings and 5 other primaris with golden armour and plasmas. He chooses the mission (one with large but short, for getting close I suppose), ads extra terrain that's not included in the mission description saying "not enough cover". Turn 1: his troops fully covered, impossible to shoot. By turn 2 he charges me with a troops of 5 that combining various things made 7 attacks each. The match ends with one blood angel taken down by my tank commander and that's it. My army utterly destroyed (3 troops, tank commander, commissar and sentinel). Any comments?
Hey question for the masses. I was warned about a game I was about to play with a player that has a reputation of crushing noobies. I did the game and got crushed but I enjoyed it. Am I weird for that?
Not at all! Some people take differently to losing games than others, and if you don't mind being beaten by a better or luckier player then that is a great trait to have. As long as you're having fun, then who cares whether you or your opponent won?
Most of these storiea, plus the fact that it's expensive and i live in bumble-screw nowhere, i really cant get into it. Which is a shame, i have a small army of leagues, not for meta reasons but because i think they're neat.
i cannot stand warlord titan owners, a friend of mine got one for his birthday (he was 11) had it commissioned to tabletop standard and he was over charged anyway, lost a friendship over that model, i just couldnt shut up about what a twat hed been...
puprple and gold necrons . .mhh interesting paint scheme, and peronnaly the only thing i could say to someone paint, is he or she have thined it's paint or not, thick paint have tendencie to ruin details, and after that anyone can paint their minis as they wish.
If I some day happen to get Tau models, I should paint their red and insist they are from "fire caste" so they must be red, really badly painted Tau's, just to piss some neckbeard off. Earth caste brown etc, true gatekeepers hell :D
I had a guy who is subvertly a dick in my club. I am fairly new do I am considered fresh meat. Everyone helps me out but he basically just tries to make you feel like shit. Luckily I am not an awkward geek. I am a very old school kinda guy who just also happens to be a geek. So I told him if he wants to be an ass we can take it outside. He is bigger than I am and I think that surprised him. He mumbled a half apology and we have never played together again. But dont get me wrong…I geek out when I play with the other guys. I am the most annoying type of player in the world…I rp every move with sound effects…and I play Necrons…
Criticizing anyone's paint job is awful...I always say any paint is better than sprue gray...I also tell news to painting to never compare their paint jobs to anyone except themselves...we are all at different skill levels and all at varying talent level
Can you point out the people that are in leagues that build to beat your faction I’ve had it happen two times in mine and it kinda gets to me as it has to be a form of cheating
simple fix. create a Table top yelp player review. enforce only playing with certified players on the app. shitty toxic players will get low ratings and eventually be left in the dark and chill dudes will get high ratings and good reviews.
I usually criticise paint jobs, because without criticism, there is no improvement. Usually it is about the combination of 2 colors that don't work that well together, or how to better arrange the colors on the miniature to make the whole thing 'pop' more. When i don't like a combination of paints i say 'i wouldn't have painted the miiature like that, but to everyone their own.' 'You can't argue about taste' is a saying here, and it is true.
Not gonna lie, I've been critical of other folk's paint jobs. Personally, I invest a lot of time (6 months is my usual 2000 point turnaround time) effort and money to make my armies look good. Objectively, I think most of my armies are slightly above tabletop standard. I've played against quite a few players that just mail it in when it comes to painting. Blue armor, black gun, silver grenade and done. Sloppy jobs that look like they painted their whole army in an afternoon. I would imagine everyone that is interested in 40K got there cause they saw some amazingly painted minis. I like to think when I bring my well painted army to a table it helps my opponent's in-game immersion and adds to their overall enjoyment. If my opponents puts in little to no effort that says that they aren't really concerned about their opponent's enjoyment. Now shaming somebodies choice of paint scheme or creativity is a different matter all together. Muttering insults under ones breath isn't productive. Constructive criticism when done tactfully can help people grow in the hobby. Your Dark Angels successors look fantastic btw.
for me it seems that first guy (TAU guy) is just a good player and the others cant compete with him. In my experience many fluff gamers dont know their own rules and are frustrated when players are very experienced and aware of any rules.
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People listening to these horror stories: "MORE! MORRRRRRRE!"
I remember going to a tournament once where I did not read the tournament rules beforehand so my list was pretty bad. I ended up playing a guy who must of had some mental problems because this dude just started having an episode during the game. Now he was winning but I had to reassure him the entire time. I have asbergers myself, so it's not like I'm some bastion of mental health. But for two hours I had to babysit a grown man and make sure he didn't throw a tantrum over a game of 40k that he was winning. It was a strange experience to say the least
Wow patience of a saint man, well done to you!
Yikes. Kudos to you. I wouldn't have had the patience (or, honestly, the inclination).
I criticise models all the time. Then I strip the paint and try again 🤣
hahahahha absolutely!
Your Astral Blades look so sick, especially the chapter master and that chest piece.
When I got into painting/collecting/playing 40k, I started with Drukhari as my first army. Those Astral Blades look a hell of a lot better than my Dark Eldar painted with Walmart paints. After painting 1000 points worth of those scrawny, spikey little bastards... Everything seems easy in comparison.
I don't know if this is a horror story or a glory story, but my nephew invited me to an event at an lgs. I never played in stores before, just kitchen tables and buddies basements but I have been playing 25+ years. Turns out it was all kids his age ( 12 to 14 ). So I crushed everyone and handed my nephew all the prizes. Was awesome for him...but I did feel kind of bad from the second I walked in seeing I was the only grown adult playing. But it was also very nice to see him walk off with pretty much an armfull of free stuff.
I still don't know if I'm proud or ashamed of this story.
Ahahaha yeah man I’m on the fence about this. Did the tournament organiser or lgs owner say anything?
@@DotJus nah just a side.to side head shake when he saw me realize it was all kids and gave me a knowing look that just said : yup. I know....
Fun stories to hear. I dealt with a "Pyro" like guy once. Local gaming store where a couple of us were forming the core of a regular gaming group, very low competition, geared for fun. One guy who was the friend of a friend of a friend was there to get involved, started telling everyone he wanted to be called "Wolf" because "...I'm always ending up the leader of any pack I join." :D That went over like a lead balloon for him, as you can imagine.
That no Terrain story reminds me of my very first match on guy artillery fires my Demon Prince off the board first turn and "remembers" turn 2 he wouldn't be allowed to shoot my Demon Prince because of look out sir, damn near almost quit the hobby after such a introduction.
The feel good story is a lot like my own when i was younger. When i was 11 i entered a few Heroscape tournaments at gencon. And i was watching the finals and the winners gave me their prizes. It is one of my happiest memories and kept me gripped in all forms of gaming. My dad was stunned by the kindness and we both stayed up all night building the sets.
One of the few tournaments I went to I had to play "that guy" twice. Once in qualifiers and once for first place in 2nd tier bracket.
This was a 500 point game back in 6th as the riptide had just come out.
Game one I did ok with my dark Eldar, but his attitude and obscure rules he couldn't back up left me in a bad mood.
Shrugged it off and enjoyed the next three games.
Last game I got paired with him for first and his comment (I'll leave it to imagination for the younger crowd).
I placed models on table, barely paid attention and accepted 2nd place.
Told TO if he's ever at a tournament again I'll just take my entry fee back.
He was banned from this LFGS's three locations after the next tournament.
I have an old story to tell, seems a fitting video. When I was 20/21 (26 now) I got back into Warhammer and painted a modest force of Salamanders when 8th was in full swing. I'd only played about 4 games total, all of them losses I believe because I didnt have optimal models or strats, but more roleplayed a bit as I thought Salamanders would act in battle. Never minded a loss, always had fun with great open-minded opponents.
One week I saw a guy painting his World Eaters/Khorne CSM and I'd never played against a melee focussed army before (only faced DG and Eldar gunlines) so I asked him if he wanted to play next week. Maybe finally my thunder hammers and flamers would be able to see some proper action. To boot, we agreed to play The Relic mission (basically capture the flag, with a single flag in the middle which units can grab and drop on death. Whoever holds it by the end of the game wins) encouraging big melee in the centre for some fun and crazy action. Plus I'd just painted an objective marker of a power sword roleplaying excalibur in a pile of rocks, making a fun little relic to fight over. We agreed to meet next week.
When I arrived, he was an hour late, claimed he forgot his CSM and used the Tau army he had on display at the store, and had told me he googled the best strategy to win the Relic gamemode. He forward-deployed his Stealth suits onto the relic to instant capture and then rushed back behind his battlesuit gunline while my short-range Salamanders got annhilated. He also deployed his stealth suits last so I didn't know what he was planning in my deployment...
Little old noob me got That Guy'd on Game 5. The only game so far I didn't have fun losing, because even in all my crazy losses I at least got to roast a few people or my opponent let me have a couple nice charges in the end for the culture. I didn't complain though, as it tought me a few valuable lessons about the kinds of people you can meet. Funnily enough I never took him up on an offer for a rematch later. He runs a hobby shop now afaik. I hope he has changed his ways a bit.
Unless i'm playing with friends I never ever agree on scenario until we are actually at the table.
I remember when i was a kid and went to GW in Oslo, Norway, Super excited to show my painted nids to people, and the GW staff was like pointing out missed mold lines, and that i used wrong parts like the barbed strangler left sac arm into a venom cannon ( I did becouse to me that looked cooler).
That experience ruined my passion for the hobby for several years.
Lol
8:02 as someone who is painting purple tau, Purple is a pain in the ass color to paint (even with an airbrush). Like you’d figure it would be easy to paint like blue, but it’s sorta got elements of both painting red and blue so it’s “fucky” for lack of a better term.
Also, army painter paint is trash garbage, just get Vallejo (though they do have the best washes in the industry though, and their black and white are decent compared to Citidel abaddon black and corax white)
them two thin coats brand looks dusty on the vids ive seen but their washes look excelent
Oh cool! I have a few Pathfinders and am wanting to paint them purple with blue trim.
Huh, I painted my Eldar in purple and it was just as easy as blue and red. Maybe your paints are faulty?
Ironically army painter's purple and pinky purple speed paints are fucking great and it sounds like you might need them lol
Can't say I really get all the hate ap gets. I've found myself using them over Vallejo stuff pretty frequently. Do people just exclusively use them over straight black primer or think the excess medium at the top of fresh pots is what the paint is actually like?
@@scruffybones321 Maybe the speed paints are different but their regular paint line is like the first generation foundation paints and take forever to get them to mix. It also takes two of the metal agitators to get them to mix. They also leave a odd finish.
Compared to Vallejo which works right out the bottle.
As the saying goes: "If you can't write, be a critic." I have had so many critics about my painting over the years from people who can't even do a decent base paint finish on a model, that I've lost count. I've been in the hobby for almost 50 years now, gave up actual gaming due to Power Players over the years, but do run regular painting classes for gamers who want to explore the more technical side of the hobby. I recently took under my "painting wing" a couple of young gamers who were being bullied about their painting skills by some people who should really shut their mouths and practice painting more, themselves. Both these youngsters are now learning so fast that they are almost overtaking me, and I'm starting to learn from them :-) I used to love gaming when I was younger, but these power players are killing the hobby for so many new members, and their arrogance is beyond me. I prefer to play fun games, where losing is just part of the learning process, and rules lawyers and power players just made me walk away from the gaming table in the 1990's, as I just couldn't take the constant pressure and bitching from them if they started to lose in any way. I once went up against one opponent who constantly stopped the game to phone Games Workshop about every rule and move turn we played, to the point where he was eventually told to just shut the F*** up and play the game by the GW staff member on the line (He was on speaker-phone mode at the time, and so we all heard what went on, much to his distress and shame). I don't bother with GW games anymore, or their products, just make and collect whatever I like the look of, and have now shocked my fellow club mates with my ex-Disney Skylanders figures that I've painted and added to my fantasy collection :-) I LOVE the background of your Astral Blades Chapter, as they have a mind set that appeals to the darker side of my thoughts about the Astartes (I've already had some serious arguments about how a certain Ultramarines Primarch could be set to start yet another Heresy due to his view of how far the Imperium has fallen from the Utopian ideal it was supposed to become :->), and the colour scheme is very nice. I have a file of over 1200 images of Astartes Chapters, and there are so many Dark Angels successors that I would just LOVE to collect/paint, not for gaming, but just for the sheer FUN of making them. As for these idiots who want to be called by their nicknames and acting like utter scum toward new gamers, well, they need to be culled from the hobby, before they kill it for everyone.
The Necron paintjob story reminded me that I have a '97 White Dwarf Mini sample when they started the lore with the Necrons, I'm going to strip it and paint it in Pawnhub colours/metallic's
I was out of 40k between some time in 4th edition and just recently. The first game I played with my old Tau, I was playing the markerlight rules completely wrong. It made them better than they should have been and not a little better. The rules on how markerlights work have changed *a lot*. I didn't mean to cheat but the way I thought it worked made my crisis suits (which are already pretty good) just terrifying. The game was so one-sided that I researched the rules afterward because I thought the Tau couldn't be that good. They aren't.
Personally im a huge fan of paint schemes that dont reflect the the actual box art or lore i think its just more creative and rewarding to do your own thing but couldn't imagine criticizing someone's else paint scheme or job be it a copy of the box art or be it a custom scheme. Also absolutely love your custom chapter absolutely top tier.
I sometimes fall into "that guy" territory until my opponent realizes I'm genuinely that bad at the game... I love to play. I play ultramarines. I can count on one hand my wins. I lost count of losses. I field old, useless units and I never metagame. I've enjoyed every game and I've made great friends in the process. My friends are always itching to kick my bum, and we always have fun.
I just slow the game down sometimes because I'm so bad. Thankfully, only one opponent has been rude to me. I have never replayed him... I wonder why?
Thanks a lot for the tempo down when you read :)
As Im french, now I can remove subtitles and appreciate your content without havinh To read a Word I didnt understood time To time
Aurevoir.
I don't know what a meta Tau list would look like, but if I ever made a Tau army it would 100% include a unit of Vespid Stingwings. I've always thought they were cool!
I had to explain to a younger player once about a game between myself and my best mate (me Dwarves him Dark Elves).
He was "you're both meta power gaming and I don't like that type of game".
We pointed out "dude we've played these armies against each other for nearly 20 years this is what WE do. Trust me if I play you I dont bring this list I'll bring my "normal" army next week if you like."
My normal army was a nice well balanced Dwarf army and me and him had a great close game. During which I explained how after 20 years the fun is trying to catch your mate out with army composition as you both understand each other far too well.
I think he got it when
I hate people like him 😂
Ha love it when people give themselves their own nicknames and act like it was given to them. Mate of mine started seeing this lass on the metal scene who legit introduced herself as "The Goddess". In 15 years I have never heard another human being refer to her as this.
I'm not too keen on painted Armies that don't reflect their Canon schemes, I'm now predominantly a star wars legion player. That being said I wouldn't dream of criticising another player's paint schemes, even if it's wildly wacky. I fully recognise that it's my own issue and not the other person's and therefore I'm the one at fault. No sense in opening my mouth and revealing my issues/idiocy. Lol
The problem with that is that even within canon there's flexibility.
For example the Black Legion has a wide variety of very loyal warbands but many operate relatively independently when Abaddon doesn't need them and they often have their own colour schemes.
Way back when I first started it was made clear to me that the reason for having 2 lost legions of space marines was to give room for homebrew chapters/ warbands who could hypothetically still be canon.
And armies like Tyranids and Orks are so vast with enough canonical offshoots that a completely new colour scheme could be used and still be acceptable.
@@Generalscorpio sure but within those lines. Ultramarines for example are very clear. I'm happy with canon and homebrew where it's permitted, including a completely homebrewed chapter, I just don't expect to be seeing Guilliman leading it.
Tournament play has ruined tabletop gaming. I would prefer to play in my friend's basement with people I know personally then total strangers in a tournament.
The Astral Blades (spelling?) look great. Nice work! I like the idea that a Dark Angel successor chapter feels the DA have all fallen to chaos. Good lore backstory.
Also, I knew a guy who called himself “poncho”. His real name was “Scott” and he had a nice Jewish last name. He told me once that I didn’t know what it was like to be “Latin”… My mother is Puerto Rican. I said okay whatever you say “Scott”….
Our jerk of the group had been playing with us in and out since we were all in middle school, mind you were nearly thirty now. He always chooses what's most powerful, spend hours making spread sheets to max out points and damage. Doesn't paint his army, pays us to do it lol. Never moves troops in formation, makes a huge blob of different unit, which is apparently cool in star wars legion. Finally one of us beat him and he quit playing all together. In middle school I played with a army of crappy painted space marines and a predator tank. He had two or more monoliths, plenty of neurons to. He quit when my predator rolled a ton of sixes in a row and blew up his not so invincible monolith. One of us married his sister so we're stuck with his bullshit. Half of us are Army veterans now, back home finally. We have no tolerance for him at all, we just play without him most of the time lol
Feel so sorry for the gut with the warlord , I have heard it's a nightmare dealing with F.W customer service at times . And I'm one of the lucky one to have a partner who's so awesome , she basically told me I was having a warlord for my 41st birthday ( lockdown stopped it for my 40th ) . Nearly one year on and I'm still building and painting it in-between my sisters and templars.
Great army, I also use a Dark Angel successor chapter. Yours look brilliant compared to my, but all good.
This is cathartic to me as a coworker I was trying to teach the game would get really mad about the basic rules. Example: he started yelling when he found out you can’t charge after disembarking from a transport that moved. Mind you, he plays votann and can advance sagitaurs and disembark (which is an extra most people don’t usually get). It was extremely off putting. He’s basically treated me like crap every game too and would bitch about rules he didn’t like, everytime. keep in mind I send him my lists so he can literally tailor to it and yet he doesn’t read the rules much before a game and throws fits when he doesn’t like something he reads. I also sent him battlereports/resources for his army but I would always get “im not learning that way”. So he wouldn’t read the rules enough to be knowledgeable, and then proceed to treat me terribly when he gets “surprised” by the most basic of rules. This would have been game number four but there won’t be any games between us from this point on. Lastly, he’s had his votann since they came out and he claims to have “30+ years” playing tabletop games so he’s definitely had time to learn the game.
As long as a person is honestly putting in an effort to paint and learn the game and not be a d**k then I will always encourage them. I have seen players paint like garbage the first few times then end up being some of the best painters playing the game. Same thing with learning the rules and strats where they start off pretty bad but end up doing quite well. Even if someone doesn't end up being on the high end of painting or playing as long as they do put forth an effort and are decent people then hells yeah I got their backs against the few bad apples.
Seeing your blade guard give me even more inspiration to go with the kit bash ideas for my deathwatch. Awesome stuff
Your first story was great!!
Nerds are the best people on the planet.
I'd love to put my Dark Angel successor "Raguel's Chosen" (Chapter entirely devoted to hunting the fallen, and yes I did name them after the Angel or Redemption and Vengeance) against your Dark Angels, would be an interesting Narrative given our chapters lore
The custodes warden body for your chapter master is really cool
Someone peed on another's minuratues at my local store 😢
I hate minnesota
What the fuck 💀
Please tell me he got arrested for indecent exposure, public urination, something. That's crazy
One time at GW I was playing a game of Fantasy (Warriors of Chaos v Warriors of Chaos) with a buddy. This dude kept stopping by our table making small talk and suddenly started talking about his wife. He had this life story about being a nerd who married the cheerleader and tried to show us pictures (conveniently without him in them). Then he kept talking about how good she was at giving head. He did this very loudly even with little kids over at the table next to us. At this point we went from one word responses to silence. Eventually he got the hint and left to bother someone else. These were the days before the one man store model so they were actually pretty good times.
Where did you get those helmets!? Those marines look awesome man.
ETSY! Dragoon helmet :) Have a look
"Another falls at my hands!" That's the funniest shit I've heard in a while.
Gatekeeping in wargaming is by far the worst thing about the hobby. I've never been involved in any other hobby that had as much snobbery and toxic cross talk about what can people afford, what their models look like, how they play etc etc.. There are really good people in wargaming but every hobby shop I've ever been to in almost 30 years in the hobby have had a few of these characters that just shit on everyone and everything.
I was once criticized for the quality of my ork boys because I used army painters quick shade rather than individually shading every single model. At the time I ran with 120 of them. I probably spent a month worth of painting my army. Huge no no
This is exactly why I play against my dad, he whoops my ass, but he at least plays fair
This is my first video I've seen of yours. Fuckin love it! You talk exactly the same way as I do. Youve earned my sub 👍 cheers from Canada!!
The more I hear these videos, the more I see me not getting to play games at the moment is a good thing. I'd end up socking one of these lads. I'm also a parent ( to some very headstrong boys) so my instinct to tell them off and not let them get away with that shit!
Yea I know that is quite funny how common is that type of guy
Those helmets on your Marines look SIIIICK!!!! 🤓👌
Used to play with a min max custodes player who’d never bother to learn his army rules or read his army faqs but would read mine just to keep his ‘advantage’ over people because he was Alpha and a chad 🙄 he once blatantly yelled out at a hobby shop that I was an easy win for other players
Omg I love the helmets of your Astral Blades!!!!!
With regards to the tournament scene - I'm part of the organisers for LWG (very low level) but the Kill Team tournaments were running...
Sure they're competitive but also very very welcoming to beginners and new players (to the London scene).
So it's definitely not something to paint everyone with the same brush
Do you know when your going to do a video on the channel chapter. As I love dark angels successor, and I even had mine founded by a repented fallen.
Actually it is looking more like next week :) So not long to go :)
As a Necron player I’m sick of all of the dudes who think every Dynasty needs to be Silver and Green….
Mine is Gunmetal and Red and they look so much better to me, if anyone criticizes them, they can just keep looking at GW box art and stay happy
Let me share with you my first 40k game ever. It took place yesterday (in Milan, Italy). Forgive me in advance for my awful English.
first of all you need to know that Italians, on average, are very toxic people in any hobbies based on honesty.
well,I have my first 500 points of Cadian, so I ask my local shop owner (great guy) to organise my first match.
He calls the guy (informing him about my faction as well) and everything was ready.
I had no idea what to do, could barely remember basic rules, so he manages everything. He brings blood angels: the super psycher character, 5 things with jet packs, 5 gold guys with wings and 5 other primaris with golden armour and plasmas.
He chooses the mission (one with large but short, for getting close I suppose), ads extra terrain that's not included in the mission description saying "not enough cover". Turn 1: his troops fully covered, impossible to shoot.
By turn 2 he charges me with a troops of 5 that combining various things made 7 attacks each.
The match ends with one blood angel taken down by my tank commander and that's it. My army utterly destroyed (3 troops, tank commander, commissar and sentinel). Any comments?
Your models look awesome. Good job.
“Another falls at my hands!” Lmao
Where do these people come from ?
Hey question for the masses. I was warned about a game I was about to play with a player that has a reputation of crushing noobies. I did the game and got crushed but I enjoyed it. Am I weird for that?
Not at all! Some people take differently to losing games than others, and if you don't mind being beaten by a better or luckier player then that is a great trait to have. As long as you're having fun, then who cares whether you or your opponent won?
You're a Dark Souls fan, aren't you?
@@northernexile 😂🤣😂 no but I’m ex military probably why it doesn’t bother me. I actually hate dark souls.
Manager of my local GW shits on paint jobs all the time.
He also holds back store give-aways
LOL what Region?
@@amarmunaev7939 buckinghamshire.
Most of these storiea, plus the fact that it's expensive and i live in bumble-screw nowhere, i really cant get into it.
Which is a shame, i have a small army of leagues, not for meta reasons but because i think they're neat.
28.30...had that with 40k in my home...i killed one SM and lots my entire force...not my collection/ 1st ever game of 40k
i cannot stand warlord titan owners, a friend of mine got one for his birthday (he was 11) had it commissioned to tabletop standard and he was over charged anyway, lost a friendship over that model, i just couldnt shut up about what a twat hed been...
The channel chapter looks fucking bad ass
Cool Models, where did you get those helmets & blades? 3D printing?
Pyro plays by scorched Earth tactics.
puprple and gold necrons . .mhh interesting paint scheme, and peronnaly the only thing i could say to someone paint, is he or she have thined it's paint or not, thick paint have tendencie to ruin details, and after that anyone can paint their minis as they wish.
I'm the kind of guy that will call you out on this stuff. I have a loud mouth and I love confrontation.
11:30
That sounds like a grot name.
If I some day happen to get Tau models, I should paint their red and insist they are from "fire caste" so they must be red, really badly painted Tau's, just to piss some neckbeard off.
Earth caste brown etc, true gatekeepers hell :D
I had a guy who is subvertly a dick in my club. I am fairly new do I am considered fresh meat. Everyone helps me out but he basically just tries to make you feel like shit.
Luckily I am not an awkward geek. I am a very old school kinda guy who just also happens to be a geek. So I told him if he wants to be an ass we can take it outside. He is bigger than I am and I think that surprised him. He mumbled a half apology and we have never played together again.
But dont get me wrong…I geek out when I play with the other guys. I am the most annoying type of player in the world…I rp every move with sound effects…and I play Necrons…
You had an oppertunity of making your own army and it wasn't tyranids. The shame.
Also when you posting my horrors?!?!
Where did you get those swords for your blade guard?
Your models are awesome!
Criticizing anyone's paint job is awful...I always say any paint is better than sprue gray...I also tell news to painting to never compare their paint jobs to anyone except themselves...we are all at different skill levels and all at varying talent level
Just found this channel you fucking legend
Hate DA....love these though...more pics please....by the way i hate DA for all the wrong reasons !
Can you point out the people that are in leagues that build to beat your faction I’ve had it happen two times in mine and it kinda gets to me as it has to be a form of cheating
I also put in that it’s like you are just supposed to put down your list for the mission not their army
As in point them out by name? xD I'd never do that , but in terms of what they are like then sure maybe in a future video :)
Do you have an Instagram for youre models because they are awsome and I would love to follow!
Be good to play a game against you if you’d like, I’m northern based up in Newcastle.
Anyone who plays tabletop wargaming is a massive nerd. What i don't understand is the toxic mean spirited people it tends to draw
20:19 ...as you do
Saying someones models are well painted, but you dont like the colour scheme is fair i think.
Can u send your hobby story to him somehow?
simple fix. create a Table top yelp player review. enforce only playing with certified players on the app. shitty toxic players will get low ratings and eventually be left in the dark and chill dudes will get high ratings and good reviews.
I disagree, I think critiquing colour schemes is fair and resonable so long as youre polite, critiquing their painting ability is not fair.
I usually criticise paint jobs, because without criticism, there is no improvement. Usually it is about the combination of 2 colors that don't work that well together, or how to better arrange the colors on the miniature to make the whole thing 'pop' more.
When i don't like a combination of paints i say 'i wouldn't have painted the miiature like that, but to everyone their own.' 'You can't argue about taste' is a saying here, and it is true.
I think criticising with constructive suggestions is not same as criticising because you want to make fun of people.
Not gonna lie, I've been critical of other folk's paint jobs. Personally, I invest a lot of time (6 months is my usual 2000 point turnaround time) effort and money to make my armies look good. Objectively, I think most of my armies are slightly above tabletop standard. I've played against quite a few players that just mail it in when it comes to painting. Blue armor, black gun, silver grenade and done. Sloppy jobs that look like they painted their whole army in an afternoon. I would imagine everyone that is interested in 40K got there cause they saw some amazingly painted minis. I like to think when I bring my well painted army to a table it helps my opponent's in-game immersion and adds to their overall enjoyment. If my opponents puts in little to no effort that says that they aren't really concerned about their opponent's enjoyment. Now shaming somebodies choice of paint scheme or creativity is a different matter all together. Muttering insults under ones breath isn't productive. Constructive criticism when done tactfully can help people grow in the hobby. Your Dark Angels successors look fantastic btw.
for me it seems that first guy (TAU guy) is just a good player and the others cant compete with him.
In my experience many fluff gamers dont know their own rules and are frustrated when players are very experienced and aware of any rules.
Painted models always looks better than grey plastic.
shame this 1 was short the storys were too good