What about that beautiful thing... gorgeous... just by looking it is amazing... can't imagine this playing in the wrong way... and if do wrong... is so easy to fix by changing and tweaking until reach the perfection... what a pleasure task.
Okay so you're aware, the last two weeks we made some recordings in this same room with video demos comparing these open baffles along with the Klipsch Forte and Heresy IV's. I'm editing the videos now and should have it uploaded shortly. Thanks for watching, it won't be long.
@@tonychand4789 during the time of this video the answer is no but now with all the modifications since this video we can definitely play 70s rock. I’ll explain in a new updated video soon.
I'm so glad to have found this channel. Your videos have been very informative. I have a few questions if I may. 1. Why did you choose the silver 8 to run in parallel to the f18 vs a fast 8 or a Betsy 8 I saw in other videos? 2. Does the 4 ohm load that results from running in parallel create a problem for the Alan Eaton 45 monos? 3. What crossover settings are you running the W18 at? I'm hearing all kinds of numbers out there ranging from 500hz down to 90hz. Thank you so much.
I know having a speaker with two tweeters causes acoustic problems. How does this work using two drivers that each have whizzer cones? I don't fully understand full range drivers. ... Great set up!
Hy Dr. I use open baffle and i like it 2 x 15 and a 8inch with hornwaveguide..... I dont understand why are you all running in parallel. W18 f18 s8 all paralell? Interferences everywhere. From the w18. Example . I want to do such a project. Can you explain why all paralell is working. And please sound demos.
Yeah, there’s been some discussion about this, but I did another video and we did some tests both ways and we really struggled to hear any difference but I thought the same thing you did too.
I’d leave them recessed but add a 45 degree chamfer that ends about 1/4” in front of the drivers mounting flange. They are though absolutely stunning looking 👍🏻
Is this a retail space or your home. I am interested in open baffle system(s), particularly Lii Audio speakers. If you are available, I would like to hear these speakers. Thanks for a great channel!
can i be Bob's friend too ?! 😊. wow. they look AWESOME . the built quality is superb. the only thing i don't like is the wheels. but that's just me. thanks for showing the goodies.
Have you done any measurements? I am not an “objectivist audiophile” but if design speakers you need to know what you are doing and measuring visualizes it.
Both are amazing. The open baffles have subs built into the same baffle and as a result do everything nicely and more bottom end. Baffle was twice the price though so the 1.7i are still amazing speakers.
They look really nice, is this something they would consider building for someone else and they could source the drivers directly from Lii? This is how Caintuk Audio does it with some of his designs@@drde4010
You will get a significant change in the sound if you add 2 x 18" woofers to any system won't you. The problem that I have with this open baffle design using several sized full range speakers is that the same can be achieved with less drivers in a cabinet surely.
I generally use cabinet speakers myself at home because they have a warm midrange however, we recently acquired a new amplifier with crossover to drive these 18" and what a world of difference it made. The midrange is surprisingly warm and syrupy for an open baffle speaker. The only issue with box speakers is in order to match the open detail, air and soundstage, it would require a pretty large box speaker which can be costly to match.
You have a truly world class DAC. To me it bests the lampizator horizon easily. Roll a pair of GEC KT66 in there if you can. I like better than the KT150 (never tried KT170 though) for everything other than bass.
@@nrab773 Yes, I have the previous flagship model before this one. I was at Al's showroom auditioning other gear and was able to listen to this DAC as Al was putting the final touches on it. How do you like this DAC compared to others you've owned or audiotioned?
Ok now I understand how you’re familiar with this DAC as its the first Al has built. It’s the best DAC I’ve ever heard, I’ve got a $20k solid state DAC and Al’s leaves it far behind. I’ve owned and tested multiple DAC’s from $500 to $20k and nothing comes close to Al’s masterpiece. I replaced all the stock tubes with the best new and NOS tubes I could find it and took the sound quality up quite a few notches. Al’s propiety 8 times analogue up sampling tube array is pretty amazing as you probably know. Putting the best NOS tubes into this section was expensive but took that DAC to another level. What’s been your experience with yours? @@wwtmk
This was discussed in different video, but nothing that we can hear audibly. It may be possible to measure something but audibly, we cannot hear anything..
@@markceci9896évidemment que non mais juste en voyant la vidéo il peut dire que c est pas bon , vous ne connaissez pas les nouveaux spécialistes ? 😂 Ces nouveaux spécialistes qui ne font jamais rien de leur mains mais qui savent tout sur l écoute juste en voyant 😂😂 Great job yours speakers I think I try to do the same
No crossover for 2 full range drivers? Hi frequency produce by them will interfere, how does that work?
What about that beautiful thing... gorgeous... just by looking it is amazing... can't imagine this playing in the wrong way... and if do wrong... is so easy to fix by changing and tweaking until reach the perfection... what a pleasure task.
Fu** yes!! Ok that got me, I am done hybernating, im comin back!! Very cool Dr!
😂
The bear is out of the hi fi cave
Hey drD 🤔 where can I find your follow-up video with the sound samples? I don’t see a post on your YT channel.
Okay so you're aware, the last two weeks we made some recordings in this same room with video demos comparing these open baffles along with the Klipsch Forte and Heresy IV's. I'm editing the videos now and should have it uploaded shortly. Thanks for watching, it won't be long.
Really anticipating the sound clips. Looking forward to this
Waiting for samples 😁
I should have them posted by Monday. @@hifiplayground
Very nice. Can they play 70s rock?
@@tonychand4789 during the time of this video the answer is no but now with all the modifications since this video we can definitely play 70s rock. I’ll explain in a new updated video soon.
Great looking setup. Im attempting to do something similar im still unclear how to get the audio signal to the sub amp from the two channel deckware
I'm so glad to have found this channel. Your videos have been very informative. I have a few questions if I may.
1. Why did you choose the silver 8 to run in parallel to the f18 vs a fast 8 or a Betsy 8 I saw in other videos?
2. Does the 4 ohm load that results from running in parallel create a problem for the Alan Eaton 45 monos?
3. What crossover settings are you running the W18 at? I'm hearing all kinds of numbers out there ranging from 500hz down to 90hz.
Thank you so much.
Love your equipment rack, did you make it yourself, looks very original and diy.
Would you mind sharing dimensions?
Hi. Plan speakers?
I know having a speaker with two tweeters causes acoustic problems. How does this work using two drivers that each have whizzer cones? I don't fully understand full range drivers. ... Great set up!
I just watched this again…. I think i need to move to 18inchers. Love this man!
Hy Dr. I use open baffle and i like it 2 x 15 and a 8inch with hornwaveguide..... I dont understand why are you all running in parallel. W18 f18 s8 all paralell? Interferences everywhere. From the w18. Example . I want to do such a project. Can you explain why all paralell is working. And please sound demos.
Hang tight. I'll be posting some demo videos Monday about this for better clarity.
they look very nice
Not sure if you've done this. You should shim the drivers so they're even with the front of the baffle. The recessed depth may be a negative? or not.
Yeah, there’s been some discussion about this, but I did another video and we did some tests both ways and we really struggled to hear any difference but I thought the same thing you did too.
Fantastic build. I'm sure they sound great.@@drde4010
I’d leave them recessed but add a 45 degree chamfer that ends about 1/4” in front of the drivers mounting flange. They are though absolutely stunning looking 👍🏻
Is this a retail space or your home. I am interested in open baffle system(s), particularly Lii Audio speakers. If you are available, I would like to hear these speakers. Thanks for a great channel!
This is in an industrial work space room. Where abouts are you located.
I am in Orange County. I would drive to Los Angeles or San Diego to hear your setup!
Are the subs also "open baffle" ? Is the Lii audio coaxial (middle driver) a coaxial driver?
Here's their info. www.lii-audio.com/product/w-18/
can i be Bob's friend too ?! 😊.
wow. they look AWESOME . the built quality is superb. the only thing i don't like is the wheels. but that's just me. thanks for showing the goodies.
Have you done any measurements? I am not an “objectivist audiophile” but if design speakers you need to know what you are doing and measuring visualizes it.
I wonder if the Super Rectifier connected to the Space Tech Lab power amp is removed in your current system.
How do the open baffles compare to 1.7i’s? Do the open baffles need a sub?
Both are amazing. The open baffles have subs built into the same baffle and as a result do everything nicely and more bottom end. Baffle was twice the price though so the 1.7i are still amazing speakers.
Who made the custom baffles?
I have been wanting to try these,
These had to be custom made at House of Hardwood Santa Monica CA
They look really nice, is this something they would consider building for someone else and they could source the drivers directly from Lii? This is how Caintuk Audio does it with some of his designs@@drde4010
You will get a significant change in the sound if you add 2 x 18" woofers to any system won't you. The problem that I have with this open baffle design using several sized full range speakers is that the same can be achieved with less drivers in a cabinet surely.
I generally use cabinet speakers myself at home because they have a warm midrange however, we recently acquired a new amplifier with crossover to drive these 18" and what a world of difference it made. The midrange is surprisingly warm and syrupy for an open baffle speaker. The only issue with box speakers is in order to match the open detail, air and soundstage, it would require a pretty large box speaker which can be costly to match.
Why didnt we get to hear them ;((
We will shortly.
You have a truly world class DAC. To me it bests the lampizator horizon easily. Roll a pair of GEC KT66 in there if you can. I like better than the KT150 (never tried KT170 though) for everything other than bass.
Thanks, how are you familiar with this DAC? Do you have the previous version built by Al at Space Tech Labs?
The KT170 added a ton of air and spaciousness to the sound stage but I’ll take a look at the GEC KT66’s.
@@nrab773 Yes, I have the previous flagship model before this one. I was at Al's showroom auditioning other gear and was able to listen to this DAC as Al was putting the final touches on it. How do you like this DAC compared to others you've owned or audiotioned?
Ok now I understand how you’re familiar with this DAC as its the first Al has built. It’s the best DAC I’ve ever heard, I’ve got a $20k solid state DAC and Al’s leaves it far behind. I’ve owned and tested multiple DAC’s from $500 to $20k and nothing comes close to Al’s masterpiece. I replaced all the stock tubes with the best new and NOS tubes I could find it and took the sound quality up quite a few notches. Al’s propiety 8 times analogue up sampling tube array is pretty amazing as you probably know. Putting the best NOS tubes into this section was expensive but took that DAC to another level. What’s been your experience with yours? @@wwtmk
dose the edge of the baffle cause defratcion?
This was discussed in different video, but nothing that we can hear audibly. It may be possible to measure something but audibly, we cannot hear anything..
it's crazy to me you would run those subwoofers fullrange
I understand the f18 , and the silver 8 in parallel .
I do not understand the bass driver in parallel
The bass is plugged into a separate amp with crossover. Then that amp is plugged into the preamp.
Tired of silent speakers...
All talk. Bad sounding speakers. 😌
That is a pretty cheap statement to make. I assume that you haven't heard them?
@@markceci9896évidemment que non mais juste en voyant la vidéo il peut dire que c est pas bon , vous ne connaissez pas les nouveaux spécialistes ? 😂
Ces nouveaux spécialistes qui ne font jamais rien de leur mains mais qui savent tout sur l écoute juste en voyant 😂😂
Great job yours speakers
I think I try to do the same
No test sound speaker. No good👎👎👎