MonstaTek's M1: The Ultimate Evolution Of Flipper Zero?

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  • Today we're taking a look at the M1 by MonstaTek, a promising Kickstarter that looks like it COULD be the next step forward from Flipper Zero! It combines nearly all of the capability of the Flipper Zero and also integrates WiFi! Let's take a look!
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  • @linguadesogra5287
    @linguadesogra5287 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    It's looking just like a "different looking" Flipper to me. Yet, I still adore the retro vibe that the Flipper gives off.

  • @fredrikzels2637
    @fredrikzels2637 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    Also, when he's pressing the M1 to open the gate he is at the same time pressing the button on the gate opener. Hmmm.... Now that's not weird at all! My spidey-sence is tingling! 😅

    • @TalkingSasquach
      @TalkingSasquach  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Yeah, definitely a bit sketchy

  • @Sownplatypus378
    @Sownplatypus378 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +68

    The whole project seems a little suspicious. But it would be a very cool thing if they actually produced it.

    • @TalkingSasquach
      @TalkingSasquach  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      Agreed! I'm always cautious of Kickstarters for sure.

    • @jmr
      @jmr 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's why I didn't order too.

    • @yo3isl
      @yo3isl 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yup.... I had my suspicions, also didn't pre-order

    • @DRAW2
      @DRAW2 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I pledged...and on the last day...yoinked it.
      I had a look at where they were already at and was super impressed, but then looked back at what the F0 team had done... 🤯 $4.8M 😳
      It may have been because it was the first of its kind, but yeah...just not quite enough to fully sell me on the M1.

    • @myname-mz3lo
      @myname-mz3lo 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      this one in particular has way less actual info than other kickstarters @@TalkingSasquach

  • @DwergieNL
    @DwergieNL 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    It really looks like ‘another flipper’.. the power of flipper is the community and all the custom stuff that is being made for it.
    It really depends on how many people would switch from flipper to this to get the same level of tooling and ‘support’. But because it’s not adding much features compared to flipper (except the build in WiFi we didn’t see yet), I don’t expect a lot of people switching over.

    • @ho0t0w1
      @ho0t0w1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      it'll never have Clara and Willy, so I'm good

    • @vallorahn
      @vallorahn หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      But it lacks iButton though. If it even exists.

  • @fauxque5057
    @fauxque5057 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    I'm fine with it. I've stuffed more than $109. in G strings and got little out if it.
    People are mad claiming it's a F0 rip off. Bigger screen, better processor, onboard 2.4 ghz wifi, along with a free case, translucent shell for backers only, and a choice of colors all make it stand out from the F0.
    In the end its the community that's going to be the deciding factor over which device wins or loses. If developers ignore the M1 then its dead in the water. They might prefer it over the F0 and the M1 could be the king. Again for $109. I'm in it to see what happens

  • @muddkipp_1
    @muddkipp_1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The best channel and community to keep you in the know..❤❤❤

  • @IAmOrion
    @IAmOrion 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Realistically, so far as I can tell, the *only* 2 advantages of this are WiFi built in and it's possibly going to be half the price compared to Flipper Zero (at time flipper was released) . Could/should still be a nice gadget for the collection

    • @TalkingSasquach
      @TalkingSasquach  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Agreed! Also, good to hear from you!

  • @lostboytnt1
    @lostboytnt1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Likely the problem with integrated wifi is being able to sell it with it built in (fcc and other certification) as an option, it's easy to sell it, (especially as development, not 'for wifi') but built in changes things.
    That's what flip did.

  • @also20cents97
    @also20cents97 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Seems dope, but can we get a video on how to spoof an apple airtag or track it with the Momentum firmware? I saw you said something about it last video and I'm not sure how do to it on my own lmao

  • @ncc74656m
    @ncc74656m 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I was hyper suspicious of this from the moment it dropped. I ended up not going for it based on that but who knows, it might end up being good? Not holding my breath though.

  • @miketester-sz1qw
    @miketester-sz1qw 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for this kind of videos!

  • @myname-mz3lo
    @myname-mz3lo 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    the angle on the ir sensor on the flipper actually helps when being sneaky .

  • @frostbyte11
    @frostbyte11 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    That goosebumps shirt is awesome.

  • @AmUitat
    @AmUitat 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    is there any gpio board for the flipper that extends sub ghz range that doesnt use the cc1101?

    • @TalkingSasquach
      @TalkingSasquach  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Not that I'm aware of, but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist

  • @IMDABROWN
    @IMDABROWN 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    It’s a scam, that 10k says they just want cash and later Say they canceled the project

  • @user-sm1eh3yw6h
    @user-sm1eh3yw6h 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I pledged F0, cyperpro and the M1. I love these toys. Not as cool as parrot OS on a bare metal Chromebook, but they are fun to play with and they are great educational tools.

  • @nobodynoone2500
    @nobodynoone2500 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    The promo vids are likely fudged a bit. I'd pay attention to the details of the finished product vs specs. And rolling codes on many cars can be done easily with a few techniques on f0 or hrf that are common enough i'd expect you to know them. It's iffy but also what do you expect?

    • @tech_critter
      @tech_critter 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Really? Can you show how or link to a video demonstrating? I'm genuinely curious & not being sarcastic❤

    • @waveril5167
      @waveril5167 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Only with honda so no, its not possible. I mean you could jam it etc.
      And then use the code for you but that is so much work to get the code

  • @godislove6611
    @godislove6611 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Excellent video as always, Sasquatch!

  • @worgle123
    @worgle123 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As always, it looks absolutely incredible! But will it become a thing? Hopefully! Also, what happened to the Cyper Pro?

  • @YaMoBeThereAbout
    @YaMoBeThereAbout 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Update - they have said they are prototype testing right now. Taking them by their word it might not be too long to see one.

  • @Olibaby
    @Olibaby 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    great vid as always 🔥🚒

    • @TalkingSasquach
      @TalkingSasquach  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks! I appreciate you!

  • @hargray2
    @hargray2 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I prefer the angled IR blaster on the flipper for staying a bit less noticeable. Everybody knows that you’re controlling something when you’re pointing directly at it.

  • @MrBlie
    @MrBlie 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    When I got the ad on Facebook, I wrote:
    "Basically a Flipper Zero in boring"
    Comment was deleted within 15 minutes. 🤣

    • @ho0t0w1
      @ho0t0w1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Based 😂

    • @user-ol9ck7ig2f
      @user-ol9ck7ig2f หลายเดือนก่อน

      I remember having some of my comments on youtube comments 'disappearing' too

  • @Mahargbot
    @Mahargbot 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    More hackrf please, I loved the last two!

  • @Nox_The_Box
    @Nox_The_Box 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I wish I knew about this sooner I would've backed this

    • @TalkingSasquach
      @TalkingSasquach  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      There will be PLENTY of time, and now you're guaranteed to be protected if this turns into a rug-pull.

    • @kinnymane8593
      @kinnymane8593 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TalkingSasquachI’m new to kickstarter, but I’m stoked to hear there’s still plenty of time. How do I back this at this point?

    • @wildplay4717
      @wildplay4717 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      How do I get my hands on 1. Tried to back it but it's already done.

    • @slooowburnnn7702
      @slooowburnnn7702 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      There’s more released now for a limited time

  • @BallisticSuperiority
    @BallisticSuperiority 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I'm a backer.. we shall see what comes from this. It could do all the things they claim it can, but if the community doesn't adopt and develop apps then this will be a cold fish.... Fingers crossed

    • @fauxque5057
      @fauxque5057 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm in the mid 950's of backers. 1.3 million is good enough to bring it to market. If it's a rugpull there will be a very big lawsuit, and probably criminal charges. So I feel pretty good about it.
      At the end of the day I've stuffed more than $109. in a g string or two in my life with similar results

  • @chubbyzombie666
    @chubbyzombie666 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I backed this project, hope it all pans out.

  • @minecraftinthehouse3060
    @minecraftinthehouse3060 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Good job

  • @dmo848
    @dmo848 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Need more folks on teaching that flipper thing

  • @urbezzubka
    @urbezzubka 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can you please make a video about the find my flipper feature?

  • @darkdragon6719
    @darkdragon6719 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This is looking cool

  • @samuraiintellectual
    @samuraiintellectual 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Boy I hope you can change the screen colors and make a splash screen, so it can be just as powerful as the flipper zero.

  • @r3miix
    @r3miix 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    how did he clone the gate key without pressing to button to send the signal which would have opened the gate when trying to clone?

    • @myname-mz3lo
      @myname-mz3lo 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      he didn't . most the videos about this thing are bs

  • @zacmellow7033
    @zacmellow7033 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    awesome t-shirt!

  • @keithenmoore4991
    @keithenmoore4991 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can you make a video on the Flipper Find My app? And how to make our own AirTag

  • @KelbyButler
    @KelbyButler 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Do you have merch?

  • @ShaggyTheGrimReaper
    @ShaggyTheGrimReaper 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Im a little suspicious on it but its good to see the flipper getting some competition

  • @Dazdigo
    @Dazdigo 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Them faking their prototype video with what it can do and faking the demonstration is an instant red flag. Wait for the community to get them before your purchase.

  • @RubikOwl
    @RubikOwl 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm excited to see more products like the flipper zero, competition gives us more options and forces companies to innovate. TBH though, the M1 looks like a nugget mp3 player 😂

  • @VolusiaCreative
    @VolusiaCreative 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I backed this project, will report back in July when they start shipping as to if it was legit

  • @Migmir1313
    @Migmir1313 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Flipper has a very BIG community these days with lots of software/firmware etc. If Flipper software is easy to convert to M1, then they will be successful.

  • @NewWaysMedia
    @NewWaysMedia หลายเดือนก่อน

    On a scale of flipper zero to Cyperpro how we feeling about this?

  • @circleofowls
    @circleofowls 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm still waiting for the original Flipper One, same community and much better hardware.

  • @JoediyLab
    @JoediyLab 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I guess it is still too early to tell the final price, but It still looks like a flipper zero. I paid the extra money for the wifi GPIO card. So unless the price is less I do not see any major advantage. Thanks for the review.

  • @Scooter_213
    @Scooter_213 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The gate video looked green screened too

  • @romulosendoromulo
    @romulosendoromulo 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'd like to see this one come to life. Also, I'm done with KS, unless the project is from someone I know, I won't even consider it

  • @the-real-random-person
    @the-real-random-person 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    For me the entire project is suspicious, we already got the Flipper Zero and the WiFi dev board for WiFi stuff

  • @Thiagosandes
    @Thiagosandes 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Oh boy, the gate opening video looks like a chroma key background !!!

  • @jamestiller
    @jamestiller 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    that voiceover on the second video

  • @swixfrr
    @swixfrr 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I feel like this device is a knock off flipper and also, the project itself seems suspicious and the fact that they raised 1 million dollars and they can’t make well made prototype videos and introduction videos is crazy. the device looks cool but i’m unsure if it’ll be as well as the flipper only if it gets released. i really hope in the feature, they can have a better prototype video and also a mobile app for the device like the flipper. also, great video sasquatch!

  • @iblackfeathers
    @iblackfeathers 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    flipper has first mover advantage with community support, which this does not have regardless of legitimacy.
    a next model of the flipper was always in mind before the first one made it to market.
    the best this device could probably achieve is an incremental upgrade of wifi built-in, without adding anything significant or distinctive in the process. there isn't a compelling differentiator to pick this over an already available flipper other than a new form factor.
    the next thing probably to consider might be the next model of the flipper zero, if they can put together a compelling successor with the backing of the community.

  • @irwandi03
    @irwandi03 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    so Flipper clone with bulky case ? we need more slim / small case.

  • @pjwarez
    @pjwarez 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Cost?????

  • @NoThankYou541
    @NoThankYou541 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I dig the specs on it but...will it have the support and community Flipper has already established? If it ends up being more than a one run/trick pony that may change.

  • @ho0t0w1
    @ho0t0w1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    without Clara and Willy as devs this can only end up being the Costco Flopper Zorro

  • @TheTruthfly
    @TheTruthfly 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Exactly the same as a flipper, nothing new, nothing really better, for me it's the same 😅

    • @TalkingSasquach
      @TalkingSasquach  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      WiFi is definitely a nice addition, but i agree, its pretty similar.

  • @Derfboy
    @Derfboy 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    12:20 That was probably an editing choice, to be honest. Maybe they needed a shorter video or something.

  • @00Jimmy00
    @00Jimmy00 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    sorry but devices like flipper or M1 are not for WIFI i can use phone with nethunter and be more flexible. i see it like more for SubGhz, RFID, NFC or BT.

  • @ternocimadh5863
    @ternocimadh5863 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    3:45 xD HAHAHAH

  • @elmariachi5133
    @elmariachi5133 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    All the same features but actually all of them working would be great xD

  • @wearegeek
    @wearegeek 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    1:54 how can anyone mistake this for OLED? It's obviously a low res LCD screen, and a poorly mounted one at that.

    • @wearegeek
      @wearegeek 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      6:04 Okay so yeah, the specs say LCD. The screen is in the same state every point in de video though. I doubt they even have a working prototype. It's seems like a sheet of printed plastic with a light source behind it. This reeks like scammmm.

  • @edmclaughlin4923
    @edmclaughlin4923 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    It's almost a direct rip of the Flipper. Why would I invest in something that does, I guess the same thing as the Flipper. I'll wait for Flipper 2.

  • @Ghost_9er
    @Ghost_9er หลายเดือนก่อน

    Does the flipper zero or this device clone credit cards

  • @safiamacher7745
    @safiamacher7745 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Do a find my flipper video!

  • @shu281
    @shu281 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I wouldn’t want Wi-Fi embedded in my Flipper, I think that runs into some privacy concerns, especially with what’s going on in Canada. I don’t need my Flipper to be another iPhone.

  • @macthesmac
    @macthesmac 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I hope it’s not vapor ware

  • @hyinthesky
    @hyinthesky 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How many commercials aRE IN THIS VIDEO?!?!

  • @mr_furian7931
    @mr_furian7931 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    so basically its a pimped flipper?

  • @mylesclark2371
    @mylesclark2371 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    when you say car keys wont work? i can unlock two of my familys cars with the flipper. 2016 subaru crosstrek and 2015 honda crv

    • @sathinallisamy499
      @sathinallisamy499 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Older models dont use the rolling code

  • @GirlsOfBigo
    @GirlsOfBigo 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I believe Flipper Zero
    will add WiFi on an upgraded model

  • @marcoceci8257
    @marcoceci8257 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    why they would fake loading any payloads via usb as opposed to just running a simple ducky script that brings up cmd for the video is a little sus.

  • @CCNeutson
    @CCNeutson 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey love the vids, but it's almost like the Motorola logo. Is it me? Maybe they lost the copyright after selling it to China? Just wondering....and sorry, I was commenting to quickly but I do agree, the gate should have opened. We already have the flipper, why with proven technology would you chance on something with misleading promo videos. We'll see how they do. I wish them the best of luck but keep it real.

  • @FREAZLEY
    @FREAZLEY 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    W vid keep up the good work

    • @TalkingSasquach
      @TalkingSasquach  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you!! I appreciate you!

  • @funkymonk2254
    @funkymonk2254 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Oh yeah. I gave the 420th like!!

  • @madbalkanrabbit898
    @madbalkanrabbit898 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How do you get that beard so straight? Mine is curly as shit 😂

  • @stayinguitartune9839
    @stayinguitartune9839 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Not a big fan of the "line" going across the face of the M1. It makes it look like a seam in the plastic. Other than that, it looks cool.

  • @andreasantaniello8318
    @andreasantaniello8318 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    No device under 10k works with full rolling code support.

  • @RiPnHaMm3r
    @RiPnHaMm3r 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Sus, yes. Interesting, most definitely.

  • @scyonyc
    @scyonyc 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Looks good, but the flipper is the original. Who wanna get a toy, im sure gonna pick up one flipper. Interesting device, but i stick to my fzero. 🍻🍻

  • @kinaost
    @kinaost 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I still think Flipper Zero is the goto here due to the community that evolved around it

    • @slooowburnnn7702
      @slooowburnnn7702 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      So expensive now and banned in Canada

  • @maryjane5108
    @maryjane5108 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    SUS´n SCAM xD saved it on kickstarter, but when you take a closer look it is...yeah...a bit lets say "questionable"...maybe stay with the OG and MAYBE one day there will be an updated version (from ZERO to HERO) with WIFI and whatever fun stuff!

  • @L0rdK0nda
    @L0rdK0nda 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Could be cool, let's hope it exists, unlike some other options XD

  • @notsrynot
    @notsrynot 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yo, I know this sounds like a stretch but while you were giving some constructive criticism in regards to the video quality it made me think that you defiantly know the recipe to what would make a good product that highlights the things the flipper Zero and HackrfOne lack and it would be cool in the future if you teamed up with some peeps and made a product and ran a crowd funding campaign and such. If this is ever something you are thinking about doing, I work as a field technician in radio and have a few ideas for feature that would be awesome to see on the next generation of these devices

  • @lukasvolcik5109
    @lukasvolcik5109 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Looks like Flipper One from Wish.

  • @hhhe991
    @hhhe991 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ye

  • @ErikWesolowski
    @ErikWesolowski 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Outdoor videos look like chroma key. Lighting is all wrong and backgrounds looks frozen until they're not.

  • @victortorres1585
    @victortorres1585 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Hi

  • @AKChryslertech
    @AKChryslertech หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yeah i love answering the question about the flipper and other devices capturing modern key fobs. The answer will be no for the foreseeable future. Modern key fobs have rolling code which i guarantee you the M1 and flipper cannot emulate. It just isnt possible thanks to modern automotive security systems. I have been a mechanic for 15 plus years and have dealt with this time and time again.

  • @josephmama9657
    @josephmama9657 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You large hand motions are threatening.

  • @Droneboss-le2nt
    @Droneboss-le2nt หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's literally the same as flipper zero but a different shape

  • @giorgio.
    @giorgio. 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I almost backed this project. I was pondering until the last minute while doing some research, but none of the comments I read anywhere were positive. The videos are also pretty bad and goofy. In the end, aside from the built in wifi, this isn’t much different from the Flipper Zero and I’d be surprised if the M1 attracts the same level of community involvement. I wish them good luck and hope to be wrong. If it works out well for them, I’ll buy one retail.

    • @TalkingSasquach
      @TalkingSasquach  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That's pretty much where I'm at with it.

  • @AidanTheCross
    @AidanTheCross 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Doesn't feature: Cute dolphin mascot

  • @warpfoxstudios
    @warpfoxstudios 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I understand the complaints about the infrared placement on the flipper but it is at the perfect Angle for sniping projectors at school

  • @gcmotive
    @gcmotive 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hell oh no.
    Im stay with flipper zero. 👻

  • @freetechdk
    @freetechdk 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I wish that they would show the internals of the prototype, it if they really wanna opensource it then i dont see why they would not also show more of their PCB work and and all the things inside it, other than that small crappy image at the bottom of their kickstarter page.
    But it all just feels like the took a flipper zero and re-skinned it for their kickstarter to get something semi believable for all the suckers with money to burn.
    My best guess is that its a SCAM!!!

    • @berlinberlin4246
      @berlinberlin4246 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      +1 looks for me the same

  • @Ssssneak
    @Ssssneak 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You can clone diffrent burton on remote gate will not open. Than change button in flipper or m1 and this will work.

  • @l0new0lf8Y8
    @l0new0lf8Y8 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i think fliperzero is toy🤗 please make good one

  • @FiveWhiskers
    @FiveWhiskers 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Did flipper not patent it 😮😮

    • @TalkingSasquach
      @TalkingSasquach  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It would be really hard to get a super broad utility patent, especially since they're adding functionality.

    • @Hebdomad7
      @Hebdomad7 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Patents are for corporations who can afford the lawyers.

  • @FiveWhiskers
    @FiveWhiskers 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    We neeed this last week it ended 😢

    • @TalkingSasquach
      @TalkingSasquach  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I may have done you a favor in case this turns into a rug-pull. I specifically waited for the Kickstarter to end because I really don't want people to get hosed if things fall through!

    • @FiveWhiskers
      @FiveWhiskers 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TalkingSasquach yeah but you don't pay unless it's delivered (I think)! It does seem lame ISH as well

  • @Alasdair-Morrison
    @Alasdair-Morrison 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just a Flipper clone, I'll 'Stick to the Flipp' thanks