$140 Wool Kilt vs $650+ Made in Scotland Kilt - Is it worth it? - UT Kilts
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- We are comparing two traditional style kilts in this video. One is made by our in-house kilt makers that are outside of Scotland.
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We will be comparing them to the 8 yard, Made in Scotland wool kilt, made by Lochcarron:
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The made in Scotland kilt is the Forever Scotland Antique tartan. It is only woven by Lochcarron of Scotland. The premium wool that is made in-house is the New World Celt tartan.
I will go through lots of different parts of the kilt and the construction used to make each kilt. Each will give you an idea of the similarities and differences between the two kilts.
Unpacking
Both come in a plastic bag that will have the flashes, if ordered. Note that some traditional kilts will come with a basting stitch for the pleats, while some will not.
The made in Scotland 8 yard kilt will come with basting stitches the others will not. You want to carefully remove those, if your kilt has them, once you know everything is correct with the order.
Flashes
Special order premium kilts come with flashes included while the made in Scotland kilt do not. You do have to add those and pay extra to have them made on the Scotland kilt. The premium kilts have two parts to the flashes, one that is slightly shorter than the one behind it. The Lochcarron kilt is only one piece on the flash. The premium uses a Velcro on the elastic band to attach to the leg while the Lochcarron uses a little buckle.
Weight of the Kilt
Premium kilt weight: 2 lbs and 12 oz . The Lochcarron weight: 3 lbs and 3.7 oz.
Buckle Straps
The straps are pretty much the same. One does look pointier.
Metal Buckles
The premium has slightly larger buckles.
Fringe
All of the premium kilts, in-stock or special order, come with a double fringed front apron. The Lochcarron comes with a triple fringe.
Fell
The fell on these are the exact same, but mostly due to the fact they were both made for me. This can vary from person to person.
Pleats
The pleats on the premium are sewn straight through from the top to the bottom. The Lochcarron kilt does have a slightly different technique with the sewing being under each pleat as seen in the video. They both still look amazing.
Belt Loops
Both are sufficient to have room for a belt and sporran chain belt strap.
Pleat Depth
Premium - Depth 3.5 inches, 7/8 inch reveal
Made in Scotland - Depth 4.5 inches, 7/8 inch reveal
Liner
The premium kilt has a liner that is unsewn at the bottom but seems to be a bit softer than the made in Scotland. The pleats are not scalloped (excess material removed in the waist / hip) but the made in Scotland does feature that.
Wrinkles
1.5-2 hours of working in each of the kilts to see which one would wrinkle worse.
After looking at both, they both did very well with regards to wrinkles. However, what was surprising was the premium kilt. It did wrinkle a little bit more than the Lochcarron, however, they fell out quickly. I think with an overnight hang in the closet, you can get most wrinkles out.
Pleat Swing Test
For this test I will just walk in front of the camera with each kilt. As I looked at each one, I came to two conclusions: 1. The made in Scotland does have a better swing and movement to it. That is what I expected from this kilt. However, the premium kilt does hold its own. Although not as much movement, it still does well, and the pleats swing and move very well.
My conclusions
Be sure to comment about what you think of the two kilts. My overall thoughts are: Is the one made in Scotland better? Yeah, I think we can say that for certain. The issue is that the kilt can cost in the $700 dollar range while the premium is only $139.50. You can get a lot of kilts for the $700 they want to charge you for the made in Scotland ones. Even in our listing, where we charge $399, that is still quite a bit more than the premium kilt.
With that in mind, I think the best option for a good portion of us is to save up and get one or two of these kilts. Ordering 4 or 5 or 6 is just not a possibility for most. If it is for you, that is great! Get as many as you can. However, for many it is just not feasible. Choose that one tartan that maybe is not very common or order your one clan tartan from Scotland. That way you have your made in Scotland kilt in the tartan you like the best.
To finish up, I have mentioned what my thoughts are on these two kilts. I really like them both! However, the most important thing is what is important for you. What works best for you? I do not think you should let anyone tell you any different. You should get the kilt you like and wear it proudly! I have received the most compliments when I wore my worst looking kilt. To be honest, you can never go wrong with a kilt!
Questions? Feel free to contact me.
brice@utkilts.com
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Mine is from loch carron. Ancient Buchan in my family colours. It was constructed by Paula Duncan local kilt maker here in the north of Scotland. My kilt is made by hand because it had to be, inside the kilt on the lining are the badges of all my family members regiments during the first and second world wars along with their names and ranks
Very nice kilt! Lochcarron does great work for sure!
Great video, very informative. I really appreciate your honest and straightforward presentation of the pros and cons of both kilts. I have a special order premium kilt, a special order casual kilt, and a utility kilt from UT Kilts and can't say enough about your customer service and value. Keep up the great work.
Thank you!
UT kilts is amazing. love them
I own 13 kilts now, with quite a few coming from UT Kilts. I echo what you said here, Brice! I do own "the one" from Scotland which just happens to be the Earth Rise tartan. VERY lucky to have been able to obtain one. That said, your traditional and premium kilts (again, I own a few of both) wear quite well and your price points make them extremely affordable for everyday wear. Great video!
Thank you!!
I love my New World Celts kilt! ♥️🇺🇲🏴
I love that tartan as well!
Great video Brice! Love my UT Kilts
Thank you! I appreciate it
The biggest differences that I saw were structural ones. The way the buckles appeared to be sewn. The location of the strap hole on the under apron compared with the location of the buckle. The way the liner was stitched to provide the required structure for the sewn seams at the fell. Etc.
Yep, good catch! Though that liner does not provide any structure for the fell or the seems there. It is much too light weight for that and the sewing was not done in a way to provide that.
Hi Brice
I have both a standard and utility kilt your personal customer service was and is outstanding. Both kilts fit perfectly and I have referred UT Kilts to my organization and you will be our supplier. The videos I watch for understanding and educational purposes.
Really love the products from UT Kilts, this coming from a guy who does not write comments.
So good job and keep up with the great customer service.
Thank you so much!
Thanks for the video. I'll be ordering 3 tonight for a trip to Scotland this summer.
Thank you! My wife and I just visted for a week back at the end of January. We absolutely loved it! The most wonderful place and people.
Great video, thanks.
You are welcome.
I agree about the one kilt made in Scotland. I ordered an 8 yard in my Dunbar tartan. I can only afford the one purchase but it was worth it. My other kilts have been from UTKilts; either their wool ones or their utility ones. Love both styles and the affordability. This video is very well done and should help persuade new customers that your wool kilts are well made and look great when worn.
Thank you very much!
Excellent video. Very fair
Thank you kindly!
A very honest and helpful opinion the difference is negotiable ,,I think a person's budget will dictate the kilt ,,either one I'd be proud to wear
Good comparison Brice and looking forward to my next two shipments this spring. My next step into kilting from casual utility kilts to plain side wool premium UT Kilts (Smith, Stewart, Wallace). A kilt is a kilt and I always remind myself of what my Scottish ancestors and great-grandparents must of worn in their day, enjoy it (not the price).
Thank you!
Love your products will be a repeated coustomer!
I bought the Argyll package from UT Kilts this last week. I think it looks and fits fantastic!! Thanks to Brice, I will be going to a Robert Burns dinner in Utah and feel like I will fit in.
Thank you so much! I am sure it will be a burns night to remember!
Pretty comparable considering how much cheaper your premium kilt is. Well done.
To be honest the pictures and video do not do the premium kilt justice. It is amazing in person.
Great work Brice! Fantastic job on the video. Unfortunately if you have a not so common family tartan like I do, you are pretty much going to have to go with the wool made in Scotland and you will pay that higher price.
Yep, that is true! That is the other advantage to made in Scotland kilts I did not mention
The cost is incredibly attractive, the swing is my biggest hangup on it
Thanks for your comment! You are right that the worsted wool does have some better swing to it for sure.
I have about 8 kilts all made in Scotland and purchased in Scotland and my favorite are the cashmere. I also have two Burberry and I like those a lot too
Wow! Never seen a Cashmere kilt before. That must be nice!
@@utkiltsbrice I'll send you a picture link. St Andrews in dark blue. It's only 3 yards. Very pretty and so so soft. I have 2 of them. Made in scotland, probably on sale for about 50 pds
my burbuerry was about 100 lbs on sale
@@jmdenison Wow that is awesome! Please send me pictures to brice@utkilts.com. Love to see them
@@utkiltsbrice oh I was just going to post a google photo link so everyone can see them. they're all vintage 80s but still look beautiful because of course it was quality wool to begin with.
I am so looking forward to getting my special order premiums from you..not to mention the feiladgh more ! N
Awesome! I am sure you will love them.
This is a very good and honest comparison. Unsurprisingly, the Scottish-made kilt is a nicer kilt. For the price difference, I expect it to be. However, if you wear kilts a lot (as I do), it's not practical for most of us to put a lot of "miles" on a kilt that expensive. TBH, it would take an expert eye to notice the differences when they're both being worn. I'm glad there is a range of kilts available to fit various styles and budgets. When I first started wearing kilts, there were no budget-friendly options available, so I only broke out my (one) kilt on very special occasions.
I completely agree! I am in the same situation. Wearing a kilt everyday, I need something that is inexpensive but will last.
A great comparison, Brice. I personally have 8 kilts with 2 of those from UT kilts. I will agree, as you pointed out in your video, that the Scottish hand sewn kilts are a nicer quality -- the price is reflective of that. But for the price, the UT kilts are very nice and I wear them more frequently during the day than the others. I really don't like utility kilts, and prefer traditional, and the UT kilts give me that day to day wear. The other kilts (except for the 10 oz) are for more formal occasions, although I have worn the UT kilts to church and no one really recognizes any quality difference. I just got notice my third UT kilt is being shipped to me and will arrive tomorrow! Plus, I like your point system and I am earning enough points for good future discounts! I highly appreciate what you do, and recommend it to anyone.
Thank you!! I appreciate it.
good video
Thank you!
Excellent comparison. If only there more selection in your premium. I'm definitely looking forward to receiving the kilt I ordered from you.
Thanks! Yes, I do wish we had more. Slowly we are adding more tartans, but definetly not the selection that some of the larger mills in Scotland have.
I guess my view is you get what you pay for. You get great quality with the Scottish traditional, but you also pay out the ass for it. I think considering everything else the kilt you make sounds extremely reasonable considering it doesn't lack a whole lot. I know I don't have the more expensive one in my budget.
I agree! You would be so surprised at how many people have been a little upset because I dared to compare these two kilts... I just think we needed to see it.
@@utkiltsbrice, it is interesting that people would be upset. I would honestly think it would be the opposite. In fact I think showing the differences between the two is actually more open, honest, and transparent. If someone was deceptive they would make the claim that they are made the exact same way, but one is less expensive. Clearly that isn't the case here. The comparison is very honest, and the realty of the price should absolutely be mentioned.
I for one would never be able to afford, or justify paying $600 or more for a kilt, especially on my income. Between you and a couple of other kilt makers you've made it possible for everyone to be able to get in touch with their heritage. As a kid I always wanted a kilt, but could never find a place inexpensive enough where I could buy one. You along with others have finally made it possible for people to afford. So, with whatever drawbacks there are with premium kilt it will never compare with the price of the other one. Granted an actual Scottish hand sewn kilt is going to not only have the the quality, but it will have the clout of being made in the homeland. I think that in itself also is worth the price if one wants to pay it.
Ultimately it is one's perspective, and ones budget. I'm just glad there is options for both.
On another note do you by chance have great kilts? I'm interested in a great kilt also, but can't buy a more expensive one from some of the other places I've checked out I believe it was you or another company that had at one point inexpensive great kilts. I was wondering if that was you, and if you ever carried them, or if you have them now. I don't see them currently offered on the website.
@@davidguymon1673 Thank you! Yes we can do great kilts. www.utkilts.com/special-order-tartan-fabric-by-the-yard-fly-plaids-and-sashes-neck-ties-great-kilts/
@@utkiltsbrice, I was happy you made this comparison video. I’ve Played in pipe bands and thought your wool kilt looked enticing for the price, but I needed to see what I was actually getting. With lower price come compromise, but you need to know what you’re compromising.
the attention to detail on the Scottish kilt is better, the buckles and belt loops are matched to the tartan better. The lining in the Scottish kilt will have a piece of canvas across the whole width to stop stretching. Is it worth the difference - probably not! There can be a lot of snobbery
Thanks for the comment! Like I mentioned in the video, I think having one or two is worth it. However, owning more than that is typically a bit to cost prohibitive.
Hi Brice, I own a couple premium wool kilts and one of your utility kilts and they are amazing. I am looking at getting the Irvine made in Scotland in the 8 yard. I see there is the tartan in 13oz and 16oz. I plan on using this for casual festivals, and hopefully for a more formal option as well. Do you recommend the 13 or the 16? Is the fabric on the Scottish one in this video the 13 or 16oz.
Thanks!
The fabric you see there is a 16 oz. I have both a 16 and 13 and do like them both. There is not a huge difference but the 13 oz is lighter and I can feel that. However, if you are doing it for a more formal wearing kilt, go 16.
@@utkiltsbrice Thank you!
Are you ever going to offer custom tartan commissions?
Y’know, if you could offer the ability to create a tartan through an app and have it woven for less than the competition, you would corner the market.
I wish I could! The problem is right now there is no economical way to produce a one off tartan. That is the reason everyone charges so much for them. I have looked at every possibility of doing that and have it done more economically just is not currently possible.
I have one black utility kilt that is _really_ cheap... and it looks it (to me). I've worn it at a couple of events (St. Patrick's day, Robert Burns Night), but know I have to do something better. I won't be wearing a kilt more than a couple of times a year, but when I do, I'd like to wear it "properly" and paying respect to the tradition (it's not just some silly "costume").
I've been thinking that one of your PV kilts might be enough for me, but now I'm leaning towards going the Premium Wool route as it's not that much more expensive (only about $55 more for the Premium Wool over the PV). Probably in Black Watch or Black Watch Weathered, as I have no real clan affiliation.
I'm mostly concerned with the sizing. I am on the shorter side, and still can't really tell where to measure the hip and length. I know it's *not* pants size, and I think the "waist" measurement is basically at the belly button...? Length would be measured from there to the top of the knee...?
Yep, measurement of length is done from your waist down to the middle or top of the knee, just wherever you prefer it to end. reach out to me directly at brice@utkilts.com and I am happy to help.
The made in Scotland seems a little better than yours but it’s definitely not worth the extra $500. $500 is too much for that tiny difference. I’d go with your premium for sure.
Thank you! I really think having one is a great idea. Beyond that, it gets a little too much for most of us.
@@utkiltsbrice True. Like I just wear kilts casually for comfort and I’m unsure if i have Scot heritage and I don’t have any known clan connections so I wouldn’t know what tartan to get. Probably not for me.
@@beartechdeck Or you can do like me and where whatever tartan you like! :)
@@utkiltsbrice That’s what I already do. Just makes it hard when buying an expensive once in a lifetime kilt.
The difference is because the Scottish kilts are made from tartan actually woven in Scotland, the cheap kilt is made from tartan woven in Pakistan. If people are happy to settle for that then ok, that’s their choice, but it is much poorer quality, and the mills in Pakistan also don’t hold the correct licences and are ripping off tartan designers. It’s like buying a fake Rolex and pretending it isn’t.
Good comparison, thank you. To me the bottom line is when I am met, can the other person tell any difference? I don’t think so. On the swing test, did you have them cleaned and presses before the test? Most fabrics have fillers in them so they can be sewn much easier (my wife is an excellent seamstress and can go on for hours about fabric) and a cleaning removes the fillers so the swing is different (at least on my four kilts it is so). I have a US Army tartan kilt that had do much filler in it that it was stiff and had very little swing until it was cleaned and pressed.
Actually, neither of those were cleaned or pressed ahead of time. They are both almost brand new.
Quiero saber cómo y dónde puedo comprar faldas escocesas en Londres
Yo soy do Utah, USA. Usted tendra que buscar una persona en Londres.
Hey Brice, I'm really intrested in getting one of your Premium kilts but had a question on the material. What exactly is "woolen wool", is it 100% virgin wool or is it a blend or recycled wool?
Woolen wool is not a blend. It is just a less expensive wool that can be used.
As a question, where do you weave the material for your premium kilts?
Sorry for the late reply! We have a weave in Pakistan that does a great job on those that we use.
@@utkiltsbrice In that instance, not to be funny, but how do you know it is 100% wool and not acrylic wool?
@@viking_nephilim I do go by what the weaver tells me and is listed in the import documents. I have to really apply that to anyone, even the weavers from Scotland. How do I know they are 100% wool? Because they tell me and it is what is listed in the import documents. I think there is some trust that has to happen there. I don't go testing the fabric or anything like that. There is no such thing as just an acrylic wool (not sure if you meant to put blend there). If someone lists that then they are wrong. There are blends that use acrylic fibers and wool fibers, but the word blend would be important to use there. Having worked with most tartan fabrics, I usually can tell the difference between a wool, acrylic, poly, etc. Sorry for the lengthy response. If you would like to continue our conversation, email me directly at brice@utkilts.com
@@utkiltsbrice I appreciate the reply. Thank you. ☺
@@utkiltsbriceIt’s a shame that you aren’t supporting Scottish mills.
So your premium kilts are made in the US?
No, they are not made in the US.
Belt does not go through the loops the loops are for the chain the buckle of the purse you wear in front it's to stop the purse falling down
It is acctually for both. The purse you are referring to is the sporran, and the belt loops are made over 3 inches wide to accomdate: 2.25" belt and the .5 inch chain belt from the sporran. They would not make those loops that big to fit only the sporran.
Great video. But hate the premium wool kilt. Horrible quality. I bought two and gave away. Maybe it was the type of wool. Not sure. Made in Scotland is the way to go. I have had no issue with another company. Considering trying UT Kilts again but, just not sure.
They use tartan woven in Pakistan, it’s never going to be as good as tartan woven in Scotland.
If Pakistani kilts were available in the 13th Century , William Wallace being Pakistani, a Muslim and a minor noble short of cash , he would have bought both the Spirit of Pakistan and the Islam pattern premium especially if they are custom order in stock ready to ship .