What Kilt Mistake Makes You Cringe?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 พ.ค. 2019
- What is the worst thing you have ever seen someone do while wearing a kilt?
Are there some kilt wearing mistakes you just can;t forgive?
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As a Scot who has worn a kilt since I was about 3 (now 60) I was taught the correct length for wearing the kilt is, while kneeling on the floor the bottom of your kilt should just about touch the floor. Given that my father made the kilts for the family he should know. So my pet "hate" is a kilt not being worn to the correct length.
That's exactly what my Scottish grandfather taught me. Thankfully, mine happens to be the standard 24" length exactly.
The word you are looking for is peeve.
@@tampazeke4587 24"might be right for you, but it isn't 'standard' for everybody!
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@@tampazeke4587 I think lots of us had Scottish granda's that did this. Mine was ex Gordon Highlander.
Kilts should be worn like a well-written essay, ...long enough to cover the subject, yet short enough to keep it interesting!
I will now live by this... thank you
Totally stealing that! 🤣
LOL
True words.
Lmaooo
When I wear a kilt, I kneel down and adjust the kilt so that the bottom of the kilt just touches the ground and no more. I'm Scottish, by the way.
Mr. Giggles that's the proper way to know that your kilt is at the right length, make sure when you're kneeling that your back is straight, you get a true measurement. I used to make kilts. If your going to do it, do it properly.
Perfect . Thats how I started . After a while you automatically know its correct 👍👍👍
Mr. Giggles My piping tutor taught me this too. He was pipe sergeant 2nd battalion Scots Guards
Absolutely, heard the same from a fella in the black watch back in the 40’s
This is the proper way to be measured to have your kilt made. After it’s made, you shouldn’t need to kneel again.
This video got me some compliments at the city festival for wearing my kilt the right way
I’m at the stage in life now where I’d need help to get back up after kneeling down to set the correct length, so a full length mirror is essential!
My other half got his kilt from you guys. He wore it to our Christmas banquet and the comments were amazing. He looked Damn good in it!
Not caring is one of the things I try to ensure my boys don't do. Everyone wants to relax and lounge around at times. But when you leave the house, look presentable. Make an effort. It shows you care. Thanks for these videos guys.
Thanks for the tips. “Grinds my gears” great. My wife (Romanian) introduced “That crawls over my liver!” To me. I love it!
Thanks for the tip about hooking your sporran over the kilt buckles to keep it higher.
At a Highland Games back in the 90s, I saw a fellow dressed in a turquoise polyester woman's skirt with a beige patent leather woman's handbag worn as a sporran, a yellow polo shirt, argyle knee socks w/ sandals & a canvas porkpie hat. Too bad we didn't have camera phones back then...
For those that want to wear it too low buy a pair of trews, they will cover your knees if you are ashamed to show them.
That was very helpful. Thanks
Thanks for the protocol of this matter, we need more of this so all can do it right, many thanks.
Love all those examples of how to wear a kilt or sporran wrong. You really brought it home. Ouch!
I played an Irishman at the big Renaissance Faire in California from '80 until it ended around 2000. A léine that would hang to the ground was the basic guys garment, which we would blouse up through our belts until it was about halfway up the thigh. Many of us had two belts, a traditional woven cloth belt for the léine and a leather "utility" belt for pouch, dirk, and mug. We were portraying the household of Hugh O'Neil, but we'd all read about Shane O'Neil's visit to Queen Elizabeth. His galloglach scandalized the English because they marched through London wearing their helmets and with their léines hiked up so high their wieners showed, which came from the Irish of the time having no body shame and finding England really hot. Of course the English disgusted the galloglach 'cuz they threw their poop into the street.
BTW, nice fiddle music. Cliffs of Moher is one of my faves.
Off the rack kilts always hang too low on short guys
Exactly! I'm what I call 'short coupled' . .. my legs are short compared to my torso so the standard 'off the shelf' kilt is just a touch too long. I cant afford to have all my kilts tailor made sooo .. ......
that brown combo and tartan is so beautiful! I want it!!!!:)
OMG, pleats in the front and the shipping basting left in the pleats. Loving the videos and have been providing links to our clan FB page. Education never ceases. Clan Davidson.
Thanks for the heads up, I Wear a Kilt to,
Jacobite shirts with Victorian/ modern kilts. White socks/ hose. Ever. Even in pipe bands and "royalty"....they're so gash. Chrome chains on day sporrans. Cowboy hats with kilts. Dudes wearing women's' sashes like they are a fly plaid. There's a long list...
Fully Agree. A kilt worn too low has been one of my pet hates all my life. It turns the Kilt in to a skirt. I've always worn my Kilts hem on the top of the kneecap.
Great video, cheers mates!
I've been wearing kilts for 13 years now. I'm a bigger guy in the midsection and having a problem of either the back is riding up or it falls down and the pleats hang really low. How would I solve this problem?
So many Americans have Scottish heritage. I remember men wearing yards of fabric and it was at the knee. But, when it rained or was cold they pulled it down and the back side up over their head.
Thank you that you showed the difference on a big guy having the kilt to low or correct. I didn't know that! I will save money each month until I have enough to buy a proper kilt made by a good and professional kiltmaker.
wearing a Kilt at any level except what is right makes every thing wrong.
Why/how did you two get into wearing kilts?
So, I got a kilt because of a gentleman's agreement and turns out I really enjoy it. Thank you for helping me learn about wearing it properly. Something I have noticed is that when worn as you describe it feels like a lifting belt when you are doing some heavier lifting stuff.
What's your advice for adjusting without going to a tailor? I'm starting up a youth pipe band, and we're looking to keep costs low, but also to keep our uniform stock manageable. Is it difficult to adjust the length by an inch or two?
what aggregates me is i try to look up vids or pics related to kilts and they post things about someone who “kilt it”
they think of the word “kilt” as alternative to “killed”
I just bought a wool tartan & love it. But still really need to do a family genealogy.
I use to wear a Non-Traditional Sport Kilt, but it was stolen. So I just decided to purchase a nice one this time.
EXCELLENT VIDEO
The knee thing is absolutely right. My dad from Kilmarnock was a stickler about the knee thing.
Sporran too HIGH looks ignorant! Kilted nerd. Sporrans had the other purpose of protecting the junk. You now know where it should be positioned.
True story: Big man. In the mid ’70’s (I was 15), we attended our family church, St. Andrew’s Parish Church in Ayr. There was a big farmer who came to church in the kilt on Sundays with his small kids. He wore the Macleod tartan which is REALLY yellow. He was tall and really big around in a really yellow and black kilt. My point: he wore it around the belly like you correctly stated AND HE LOOKED ABSOLUTELY FANTASTIC!! Oh yes and a beard as well.
BIG, YELLOW, BALSY. The rest of us in suit and tie looked like chicks in comparison.
You two guys know what you’re talking about.
I'm saving this video for when I get my first kilt at 18. Fourteen years down and, *sigh* , four long years of wait to go...
Daniel MacDonald When you do get your kilt, it's completely worth it! Hang in there!
@@gemista thanks for your support, mate!
Yes men, i just turned 18 and i’m waiting for my first kilt, it’s my birthday gift and got it all, kilt pin, sporran, belt and the good fucking kilt
@@obi-wankenobi1233 is 18 a traditional thing ? What do you generally wear now ?
I’ve waited 54 years..... now I buy it for my son’s wedding.
Thanks gentlemen. I just got a nice kilt (purchased in St Andrew, Scotland). I just need a chain or strap for my sporin. Do you have videos about what kind of shirt goes good with a kilt? I'm not a button up shirt person. I like tunics. Any suggestions?
I normally wear a plain button up shirt but if you don't like those, look up jacobite shirts. Can buy them from most decent retailers.
Depends on the occasion for me, formal will be a shirt and tie, rugby match or night down the pub, just a t-shirt or a rugby jersey. Wear whatever you’re comfortable in. Fashion is subjective, there are no hard and fast rules.
I prefer it at the middle of the knee. More dignified, to my taste.
Which of your kilts are you wearing in the video? Is that the semi-traditional, 5 yard, or 8 yard? I'm guessing it's not the 8 yard because the weight looks to be too light. Thank you for the videos, the content is great.
They're both 8 Yard Kilts. Rocky (left) is wearing the 16 oz Scott Green Weathered tartan. Eric (right) is wearing the 13 oz Alaska State Seal tartan.
I wear a kilt just above the knee, depending how I feel, I will hike it up a bit, X dressing aside I find them so comfortable
After my great grandfather died, my brother inherited his complete dress kilt. Grandpa was a wee man from Glascow so it was small. At the time, I could just barely fit into it. That outfit is now about 130 years old. The first time I ever tried on a kilt, I had it on backwards. Didnt know any better until I decided to get my own!
I happened upon this completely randomly, but I love the skunk sporran! Just wanted to say that.
Clan Gregor here! I wear the traditional red and green tartan, but I also wear a short kilt, because I am a woman. I do make sure my pin is placed in the correct position, and my sporran is worn correctly. I hate ghillies, but I use flashes and keep it as good as I can bring a woman. I hope I haven’t looked like an ass this whole time :(
BunnieSueWho ..I recon you would look very sweet, don’t worry your trying to do your best and that’s all that matters because you care. Big hugs ,take care. 💐 👍
hello fellow gregor :D
At a Celtic festival I saw 2 men walking around with pleats that were still stay stitched from shipping. They didn't know they were supposed to take that thread out so the pleats could swing freely.
I've just stumbled across you lads, and I'm loving these videos. But surely the biggest faux pas is the wrong footwear. I once was at a wedding where some muppet was wearing a kilt with black leather slip-on shoes and grey socks. It looked TERRIBLE. I almost never wear a kilt without ghillie brogues laced to the calf, but hiking boots or army boots can go well with a kilt, especially if you are aft tae the rugby or likes. But the wrong shoes with a kilt is a stinker. Cheers lads, CJ (Clan Lamont)
This looks more authentic for wear in settings where tradition is all-important; and the full length allows more and deeper pleating at the rear, which results in the impressive 'swing', for example when dancing. The Casual Kilt sits lower on the waist, like trousers, and uses less material.
I understand about the wearing it around belly thing for us bigger belly guys, but I'd still be worried about it sliding down all the time. Ive never tried to wear pants in that region without suspenders.
My pants would always want to fall down without them.
In this country too many have the it's my kilt, I'll wear it however I want attitude.
Should colored dress shirts (Like Black or Lt. Blue) be worn with a kilt and under a black Argyll jacket and waistcoat or a Gray Braemar jacket and waistcoat? And what about button down collars?
Very formal, I would stick with a white shirt. Semi formal, wear whatever looks good!
I have a problem wearing my kilt on my belly because I tend to suck in my gut and it just falls so I do wear it a little above my waist.
Hay what if my sporran is squared off at the bottom because I can’t afford to get a traditional sporran does it matter as long as it is leather and holds what I want within reason
the original sporrans were simple leather pouches to carry stuff so it's all good ,,my advice as a Scottish person is dont sweat the details we dont :) however we would usually class kilt wear in 3 ways 1 dress ( basically your best bling outfit with all the trimmings for weddings funerals etc ) 2 day wear a more subdued dress style ( still smart but less bling ) and 3 casual ( which could be from t shirt n sneakers up ) different sporrans + belts are an easy way to create a more casual or dress look and can be added when you can/want etc ,,
it's all good, you do you. haters gonna hate anyway and the proper Scottish response to that is not to give a f**k :) peace out
When should one wear a Glengarry?
What about wearing a full grand kilt?
I have a kilt that was given to me that has me completely stumped, what tartan pattern it is. Since I don't have a history on it, how can I find what what tartan pattern it is? The tartan registry is huge. I feel lost in there. Help?
I have modern kilts. At 50" waist and 24" length. The 24" just isn't long enough to cover mid knee. Im just to tall
You can usually get modern kilts in longer lengths for a small additional charge.
My buddy who is color blind and wore a tartan kilt with a tweed jacket and a gingham check shirt with a striped tie and mustard colored hose. OMG! Not just the colors clashed but the patterns clashed. That was forgivable and unforgettable. Table cloth kilts at the RenFaire are unforgivable. The new Starfleet tartan is imminently forgettable and almost unforgivable, giving Buchanan a run for it's money as worst tartan.
Nice mug!
Can you wear a kilt without a sporran?
A flattering appearance ... From a "FLATTER" tummy
I would say one of the things that I see that is ridiculous is when guys are in kilts and figure it is their opportunity to wear a large knife, dirk, dagger, etc... it just looks silly to say nothing to the fact that it puts people on edge (see what I did there, :) ). A sgian dubh should be enough.
Hey guys what about utility kilt. I have wear my on my stomach it covers my knees
How do you guys wee in a kilt?
I wear a modern denim utility kilt (Got-Kilt form here in Michigan), and I purposefully wear at the waist, like I would a pair of pants.
I have a bit of a gut, so that's part of it and I don't like the feel of the fabric against my gut so I don't like cloth riding up that high anyways, but the other part is that I'm not trying to adhere to a tradition. Also, I don't let the back ride-up high. (I have friends who have kilts who do that and... ugh, that's one of my pet-peeves... when that back lifts up 3-4" when they walk or (worse) bend over.
(I also don't use a sporran since the kilt has pockets, so I'm really not trying to look "traditional" either.)
I also wear suspenders to make sure mine wont drop to low.
When I wear my great kilt around my fat belly, some time later when I'm out walking my dogs my belt will slip down under my belly and my kilt feels like it's going to fall off, this is why I intentionally wear it tightly just about 3 inches below my belly and at least it won't fall off plus I wear a vest that covers my belly, I haven't had any complaints from anyone so far.
I wish your store was closer as I'd love to spend a few hours and many $$$ at your place but it's a long haul from central Ohio. Anyway, thanks for all your productions.
I cant wear a kilt to the mid ..I wear them lower ...I have them made to fit that properly though I hate my kilts hanging below the knee ..im 5'7" 140lbs ..I tend to have them cut to 34w 38h with a 20" langth it usually lays just above the mid of the knee and low enough to miss the medical device I have to wear from time to time ....im not sure if wearing it higher or lower on the body is the issue ...it's more knowing where you will wear it and have it fit to the correct length.
I'm glad you addressed the belly issue
Any that are also on shortbread tins
This may be an odd question but if you have many different Scottish families in your heritage which tartan do you decide to wear? My husbands family on his mothers side is Scottish but there are many clans. Do you trace back to the most recent or do you go back further? And is it based on a particular side of the family?
Also, if your heritage is Welsh, Irish, and Scottish which nationality do you decide to embrace when choosing your tartan?
Thank you
Could wear them all or just pick one you are more drawn to
Pick one you like! Don't be too drawn into clans and such! Just wear what you love :)
You could pick any clan kilt and wear the crest/brooches/kilt pins of the other clansof your family, in my case i bought 2 out of 3 kilt pins to go with my kilt since I have difficulty finding a kilt that fits at the waist and length(within my budget) only one I was able to find was black watch
Whichever one strikes your fancy. I decend from multiple clans and am weaving a tartan plaid from several of these to make outfits. Maiden name, Brown. Scottish Brown.
I chose the Dalriada tartan that pre-dated the clan tartans because I have Irish and Scotish ancestors and the Dalriada Kingdom was an over kingdom that covered the areas in both Ireland and Scotland where both families came from.
the pleats in the front remind me of my old uniform skirt I wore during my catholic school days. lol.
In Canada 🇨🇦 too low means it’s winter ❄️… thick Sox’s are a tradition. What about argyle overcoats ? Is that a bad look?
I wear a kilt slightly too short, but also below the belly button, the reason for below is because no matter what I do the kilt wont stay above and ends up below the belly button, I wear them all day for work. I like them short, well because I do, its not a heretic thing, I just think they are a very comfortable item.
Get it done properly or don't bother. Sassenachs shouldn't bother
I did see someone on TV once with the pleats at the front 🤣🤣🤣
I remember in the late 1970s being in a pipe band of all women except for me and the Pipe Major. One day, Pipey wasn’t well and had to give it a rest for a good while. He put me in charge. We didn’t have a lot of funds and the new kilts were too lightweight imho. They didn’t even give me a sporran but lucky for me, the Pipe Major, who was in the A&SH, loaned me a real badger head sporran he had. We went to a local highland games and there was a truck with the Scots Guards recruitment guys there and I strutted past them a few times when I saw them pointing at me and admiring my sporran. I was so grateful to Pipey for the sporran because I was 20 and there was a couple of gorgeous Irish girls in the band 😻.
When I put on certain kilts just to line it up it can take 30 minutes to get fully dressed
You should try wear a full Plaid, that's fun some times to put on.
I'm a short guy and my kilts land just at or just bellow the ball of my knee. Most places don't make them to the right length for me.
Can I ask how do you accomodate a man with an expectionally large and very very full bottom that sits high....no matter what we can't seem to get a kilt to not look like it is hiking up 4" on the back hem...and yes even pants are terribly difficult to get a proper fit on him..we know the waist and the hem is suppose to follow the horizontal lines of the plaid but it just won't work for him..so if that is the case is the kilt adjusted from the waist and displaced horizontal line at waist..or from the hem..I would think waist cause it could be less visible with belt , shirt or vest than hem...am I correct?
Hi, I don’t know if you’ve found an answer to this question already, but here’s a suggestion for you: check out books (videos?) on tailoring and fitting pants. I know about fitting pants for women, there are ways to tailor the pants to fit a prominent behind. My guess is that if he has that problem fitting pants, something unconventional will have to be done to accommodate the booty. Like maybe inserting a “window” of cloth in the middle of the pleats in back, but that even sounds horrifying just writing it here! 😱 Have you tried just drafting/fitting a sample of the garment for the back? In my experience of fitting, the extra fabric for the butt has to come from (be “borrowed” from) the near edges of the fabric pieces. And darts are also employed to shape the fabric, which the pleats are versions of. Do NOT “borrow” the fabric from the hem! That’s too obvious. Borrow it from the waist/top of the pleats. I hope this helps. 🙏
@@susangrande8142 I draft his pants..I have adjusted when kilt making as much as is humanly possible from the waist to accomodate..I am actually a professional seamstress my ebtire life..I asked in hopes someone knew of anything else..I have done everyone of your suggestions..thank you for responding..guess he is just going to have dipping no matter what..it bothers me as the maker of the kilt for far more than it does him as the wearer..so I guess I need to chill..it just freaks me out there is no way on my man to make the kilt look like perfection on him..Again I need to chill..had several professionsal beg to hire me to make kilts after I showed them what I did and they saw my work..so made me feel a bit better that they said they did not have any additional tips or tricks either
@@kimberlycherrine-bell5371 lol! 😄 Yep, it sounds like you’ve done as much as you possibly can. I understand how the dipping would bother you! My mother used to call me “the fitting Nazi” because I was obsessed with clothing fitting more than she was (she taught me to sew when I was little, and then I surpassed her). Yes, take deep breaths. If you’ve done as much as you can, and he’s happy, it’s all good…especially if other kilt makers want to hire you! Good for you! 👍
The correct height can easily be attained by kneeling up straight and adjust the height so the bottom of the kilt just about touches the floor
Your Photo @ 4 min 50 sec shows another issue - the sporran belt undercutting the belly. This is why I like sporran hangers.
as you noted at 5:10.
I’m a Scotsman, who owns 5 kilts, and 3 sporrans and I’ve never heard or seen sporran hangers! I’ve always found the chain kinda annoying, hangers might be the way to go!
"Here you go 'mildly irked scotsman', have some scotch. I'm sure this will keep you calm and subdue you passionate response!"
*people quitely trying to get out of the way without making sudden movements or mentioning the English*
Saw a guy once wearing his Kilt with the pleats in the front?!!
I want to see the original
Montgomery tartan
My neice brought a scarf
To me of this tartan
and it did look garrish
Just wonering if it was the original one or made in India with bad color design
I've seen street bands wearing a great kilt with the top part hanging down the front right to the ankle, I prefer to tuck the front part behind me and let it hang down the back.
Huh?
Is it not the belly that gain and lose shape the most of all body parts???
But didn’t they wear them low depending on the weather?
I agree 100% with everything you said. Ironically, the before and after pictures of the overweight man wearing the kilt at the waist as opposed to the hips (while you were talking about sporrans being worn too low) the guy's sporran was worn too low. It should be one hand width from the top of the kilt.
I saw a man working a booth at a Ren Faire last month with his kilt on backwards! UGH!
The other faux pas is not removing the basting stitches before wearing the kilt. Again, this is usually done by newbies and I usually try to privately tell them, and even help them, remove the stitches.
Oh, and it looks really bad when a person's kilt doesn't have the tartan pattern symmetrically centered on the apron.
Incorrect flash placement is a pet peeve. Or wearing what looks like girls' knee high socks. Cheap synthetic and thin with no visible knit pattern- in temperate climates. Hey- if it's hot i get some people don't like wearing wool. But in Canadian or northern lower 48 states climate- i have worn my wool kilt and hose in extremely cold and hot weather. As a natural fabric- wool is a wonderfully
versatile garment material
I have to go with the one that is probably mostly well-intentioned but just makes me cringe whenever I see it. Men wearing tartan sashes, with the kilt, so that they sort of kind of look like a plaid. I have even seen these worn in different tartans than the kilt, and once even saw a tartan winter scarf used for this purpose.
I have not read all the comments, but is that a Black Rifle Coffee mug??? If so, thank you for supporting us Veterans.
It's not from Black Rifle Coffee - it's from 1776 United. That being said, we do PROUDLY support our veterans. We offer a 10% veterans discount and have 21% of our workforce who are veterans (3 of 14 people). :-)
@@USAKiltsOfficial I think that's very generous of you. In the UK there isn't the support for Vets that you have in USA. I was on a course in November on Armistice Day (11/11) and the tutor stopped at 10:59 to prepare for the silence. One of the adult students asked, "Remembering what?" Part of the course was on British Values, where do they think those come from?
Any tips for wearing a kilt if you have a belly?
Make sure you take your measurement around the waist at the height of the naval. If you wear it across the naval it will look amazing and actually make you look slimmer than if you wear it below the belly at the hips.
...lose the belly.
i used to wera my sporrant low cause i had no FItting sporrant chain 9casue of my size so i put ti on largest and hd to have it below my belly bu twhen i got a kilt witha sporrant that had fittin sporrant strap i started tow ear it properly , then i started tow ear sporrant strap s ame things it fitted so worked good. (before the sporrant strap though i had also bought sporran suspenders(wish faut pas made me wear belt with a jacket but with strap or fitting chains i stop wearing belt with jacket
sporran, no "t"
As an American in the United States. I wear my kilt as traditional as possible. That being said I do not wear a sporran often. I largely wear my kilt when my band Altar of Bedlam play concerts. JB
The Carptender's Khaki / Pleated by Seattle, Washington State's ::: Utilikilt ::: is worn by a few, in Portland Oregon - and I don't really understand WHY ?!? Does anyone remember Wrestler, Rodney Piper ?! --- what makes the Pacific Northwest so different than what's happening across The Atlantic Ocean ?!?
Hahaha ... Rowdy Roddy Piper. Good times.
When dancing i was tought ways of measuring with my fingers etc. Like the hose should stop att three fingers from this bone at the side of the knee , the kilt should go from the middle of the navel to the middle of the knee cap etc.
Though done historically, i think a modern kilt worn above the knees looks awful.
As someone of Scandinavian decent, i naturally gravitated toward longer kilts that go below my knees. Ive been wearing a kilt every day for almost 18 years. Literally every day. I wear the waste low like pants. I wear utility kilts. And it goes below my knees because i buy them longer on purpose.
I've been wearing my kilt on my hips now for 20+ years... my hips are slim, and thats where it falls.. however, it doesn't go past my knees. BTW...I'm a Celtic musician, and perform at highland games, so none of this is new to me.
The other thing about wearing it too low is the belly hanging over. It looks bad.
Belly hanging over in anything looks bad!
Don't have a belly. You look more badass with abs.
Historical accounts described kilts worn so high as to be offensive
Proportionally the Kilt at the very top of the kneecap or bisecting the kneecap looks correct, once the belt, sporran, hose and boots are in place, the entire lower half has a nice symmetry and balance.
I've been wearing a Kilt for over 20 years now.
Asked Kilt wearing Scots a million questions about proper attire, and I'm a stickler for tradition.
The Saffron kilt of the Irish is worn lower than a Scottish tartan kilt, because the Irish are better endowed ☘🙂
How about the folks wearing the pleats in the front and apron in the back?
What the actual fuck? This happens?
Why would you wear it back too front?
I see it often. I havm't a clue why.
For a gent, every 'true scot' knows that the kilt should be worn such that it rides at the top of the kneecap. This becomes abundantly clear if it's worn for a duration of time involving walking (or dancing etc) as chaffing will occur if worn lower then the top of the kneecap.
The only other 'issue' which has been made abundantly clear regards an individual wearing a kilt belonging to a particular Clan and the individual not having any lineage to that particular Clan.