I love South Africa and reading about South African history. I did this for many hours for years as a teenager, and when I moved to South Africa, I found that I knew much more about South African history than my Afrikaner friends who had learned South African history at school (ANC curriculum).
@@lungakosomdyala4077 how so? When I was in primary school 06 to 13 basically all of the history we learnt where about our local town and pre 1652, the only thing we where thought in class about 1652 where the Dutch came build a castle and sold "firesticks" to the natives. And everything in high school 14 to 18 was about apartheid and white man bad and look what the whites did to the poor black man and some random stuff about the first Chinese Emperor and the shonghai empire. With a little bit of here's the bad things Stalin did and now excplain in 2 to 3 pages why stalin was a good guy and why his policy's worked and try to mention the 20 million plus dead as a good thing. My primary school teacher got mad that we where not learning about anything newer than 1652 and took us around town as a class to buildings build after that period and then told us when they where build and what was going on in the local area during that time, also went to the trek monument and the oldest church in the area. From talking to my collage teachers is less of a white man run the country and more of anc not wanting to pay to make new stuff, for ex the electrical stuff I'm studying in class now was outdated back in 1980's South Africa as anything made in 1954 would be especially a engineering course but for some reason the DEHT hasn't really addressed this and have thus far only recently slapped in renewable energy on some training levels especially on the n2 one.
@@lungakosomdyala4077why didn’t you lot have your own written history when the white man got here? Oh, I forgot you didn’t even manage to write when they got here. Like 1+1 was not yet figured out.
th-cam.com/video/4xk1hsC2CHI-/w-d-xo.html TRUTH OF THE SLAUGHTER BY THE DUTCH....WHEN THE GOLD WAS FOUND...BRITISH BOUGHT BACK AMERICA WITH SOUTH AFRICAN GOLD AND DIAMONDS.....HIS FACTS ARE NOT TRUE....KNOW YOUR HISTORY. ENSLAVEMENT OF PEOPLE AND DEATH WAS THEIR GOAL...NOTHING BUT KILLERS...THIS IS FACT...
What about the Kingdom of Mapungubwe? It was a Bantu civilization kingdom believed to be the predecessor to Great Zimbabwe in the north. It appeared in 1075 and declined around 1220, existing just south of the Limpopo river in what would become the northern Transvaal(now Limpopo province). Like great Zimbabwe, it had large stone structures, and gold/ivory/copper trade routes to Kilwa and the rest of the Swahili coast cities, and engaged in indirect trade across the Indian ocean. It was part of the Bakalanga Kingdom. It is thought by many archeologists to be the first true class based civilization in southern Africa. It was also one of the earliest evidence of "sacred leadership". Its style of building would later be replicated in Butua, Mutapa, Maravi, Rozwi and Zimbabwe. It was one of the most complex and powerful kingdoms in what is now south africa, and would really be the renaissance that would shape later societies like Zimbabwe, Butua, the Tsonga Thembe, and other kingdoms in and around south africa.
Ruan is a day dreamer like this idiot trying so hard to refute our rightful claim to the land. You would care to know that the same ruins in mapungubwe stretched from Zulu land into Johannesburg right up into zimbabwe. And it dates further than 1200s. What you would find of those remains now are huge stone circles.
@Nanda Das Please explain yourself more clearly. Right now it looks like you are saying that Maphungubwe and later Great Zimbabwe was not founded by Bantu people who had been there for centuries. All the archeological evidence points to them being founded by Bantu peoples, from the Bantu migration that started around 300 BC (possibly earlier), to it being clear that from around 300 AD (possibly earlier) the Bantu peoples were firmly in the land now known as South Africa. And I am living out the archeological evidence found in the previous locations of these kingdoms cementing even further that they were in fact built by the Bantu peoples. So please explain what you meant by, "that civilazation collapsed and the descendants migrated away then thousands of years after the Bantu people returned". Please be very clear and leave no room for misinterpretation of your words.
Monsieur Z One thing you wrong in this video is the Bantus not living there. That's incorrect I'm afraid. But I guess that's what happens when your an armchair historian.
What you mean hut bru , if you are in a hut it must be some kind of resort , we got concrete buildings bro didn't you get the memo , udlale ngawe lomuntu ukuqhashele ihut, akazi ukuthi asisadli imbuye ngothi
I'm actually a descendant of a Lord-Director of the Dutch West Indies Company, who is also named as the Patroon of Zwaanendeal, Mathijs Jansen van Keulen. Has nothing to do with this video, but I figured it was sufficiently Dutch to share.
Awesome! Your ancestor’s company colonized part of northeast Brazil. Many Brazilians wish that you Dutch stayed here, but my ancient ancestors kicked you guys out of here because we had big debt with the company and they were demanding the debt payment. (Not to mention my ancestors were catholic and the Dutch were Protestant.) Now I am Protestant and maybe it would be nice if the Dutch stayed
My friend, your knowledge of this topic is very uninformed, eurocentric(made-up) and flawed,....To say the least, I suggest you do proper research before making such a video,.....Here are some points to ponder. 1 The Khoe/Khoi( of which I'm a descendant) and the San, are different people, who arrived in SA millennia apart, and they DIDN'T live in the same vicinity,...Just like the Irish and the Scottish are world's apart. 2. The bantu, is a collective word( like Caucasian), it includes more than 20 different african people, some are Indigenous to South Africa, others are NOT,....There are the Ngunis( Northerners) who migrated to South Africa at different times, centuries apart, and there are Barwa( Southerners) who were in South Africa, South West, Botswana, Mozambique Zambia et.c, thousands of years before 1652, there's ample archeological evidence to prove that,....Remember there was no South Africa as you know it now, it was Batswanaland, Basotholand, Mashonaland et.c....Most of these countries now form bits inside South Africa. 3. Some Early Bantu migrated southward to South Africa some 2000 years ago about the same time as the khoi/Khoe,....While other bantu groups have been here before that, along with the San, ....Again there's archeological evidence to that. 4. Bantu were mining iron ore in South Africa, in the region's of North West, Gauteng, Mpumalanga, Limpopo, KZN between 12AD and 500AD,....A thousand years before the first Portuguese, Arabs et.c first set foot here. Your limited knowledge of South Africa does not allow you to teach a subject you're at most CLUELESS about.
@@chesterdonnelly1212 The story of the khoena(Khoi) and the Xam(San) people has been highly romanticised and europeanised to the extent that it’s far from the truth. 1. The khoe and Xam are not SPECIFIC to South Africa( where South Africa is a colonial concept of borders following colonization by the British and internal migration of the 1652 “boer” settlers from Holland). They are found anywhere in sub Saharan africa, Namibia, Botswana, Zambia, Angola, Malawi, Tanzania, Kenya et.c 2. Prior to the Europeans settling, between (900AD and 1400AD) a lot of khoe and Xam had already abandoned their foraging lifestyle and assimilated into the “Bantu” communities, as the latter were more advanced in agriculture, village settlements, livestock and iron/copper smelting. So a substantial percentage of people who are called “Bantu” in South Africa, are actually khoe and San, especially in the Xhosa, Tswana and Sotho peoples. Much like how some Amerindian( Sioux,Apache, Choktaw, Cheyenne,Comanche, Biloxi et.c) ended up being cowboys and speaking English, some living in New York and working for IBM, ....but genetically and physically they remain Amerindian. My point is, it’s not ONLY the skin wearing, desert dwelling and hunting people that are San or Khoi, You do find Khoi/San people living in Johannesburg or Cape Town, working for Microsoft or Mercedes Benz,...speaking Xhosa or Tswana,...even though genetically they are not Tswana or Xhosa, yet physically they look obviously San. The story of the Bantu displacing the khoe or San is a fabrication that never happened,...Bantu being agricultural, settled in vegetative areas, and khoi and San being hunter gatherers preferred semi arid plains where predatory wildlife is scarce. The story of the indigenous people of South Africa is far more complex that what Europeans want you to think.
As a white guy i was interested in learning the history of s.a and our bantu friends and i discovered that the contemporary history of south africa is as a result of the scramble for africa but prior to that the ottoman empire were the colonizers of s.a and according to the ottomans the bantu migration into s.a started more 3000 years ago while the portuguese,the dutch and the british only came to s.a from the 1400s onwards and during that time the moorish empire of north africa were invading spain and portugal and the portuguese circumnavigated africa as a counter attack of the crusades wars between the roman empire and the ottoman empire.the victors of the crusades which were us white people(roman empire) then took s.a from the ottomans.according to arabic texts in the book of zanj,before the 1400's south africa was known as Azania and the bantu were known as the the zanj people of the zanj empire of south and east Africa hence modern day countries with names like ZANZIbar tANZANIA and mZANZI (the zulu name for South Africa).Zanj was a name used by medieval Muslim geographers to refer to both a certain portion of South of Africa primarily the Swahili Coast and to the area's Bantu inhabitants. The indian ocean around s.a was known as the Sea of Zanj, and included the Mascarene islands and Madagascar. During the anti-apartheid struggle it was proposed that South Africa should assume the name Azania, to reflect ancient Zanj.The term Zanj apparently fell out of use in the tenth century,the appellation in Persian is roughly equivalent with "negro". It is recorded in Arabic as zanjī (زنجي), and in Turkish as zencî. and seng ze in chinese.The tenth-century Arab historian and geographer Abu al-Hasan 'Alī al-Mas'ūdī describes Zanj as the country of the blacks in the south of africa.
not exactly... those touting expropriation, are indeed mostly not of Khoisan descent... what's happening in SA (just as what similarly happened prior in Rhodesia) is sad...I'm just pointing out the complete hypocrisy
Harry Nobutee no. Please don't come with your segregatory tactics. Africans are calling for expropriation of land. Don't try and divide us and say there is black and khoisan, we are all black and African. Nd we have one voice on this issue, the stolen land needs to go back to africans
absolutely WRONG... The non-Khoisan descended blacks currently occupying SA have no more rights to land than similarly occupying whites... "stolen" is a total conflation of term, but if you want to insist on using the term, non-Khoisan BLACKS originally "stole the land" from the Khoisan people, LONG before whites ever showed up...
Harry Nobutee you are lying lol. Firstly there was no South Africa, so how far was this land claim by the khoisan. Nd secondly, the khoisan occupied the cape, that was their area and they could live there with the xhosa's. How can you say the khoisan owned south Africa because their population couldn't even occupy the whole of South africa. South Africa is the 24th biggest country in the world, it is huge, so how could one tribe claim such a vast space, That's literally impossible, they claimed the cape, nd that's where white people came and killed and subdued them. Please use your common sense before responding, your ignorance is getting boring now
I'm from South Africa and I must say your pronunciation is superb, both with African languages and Afrikaans. Enjoyed the video, brushed up on my SA history and reminded me of a few things. Thumbs up!
The similarities between the Boers and colonial Americans are striking. Protestant farmers immigrating to a distant land, not wanting to pay taxes, encroaching on native lands, enslaving the natives, fighting a guerrilla war against the British for independence, and later on implementing apartheid while the southern US implemented segregation. It’s really surprising how many parallels there are.
I knew the word Sawabona and I really love the meaning of that greeting, which means "I see you". Then the response to that is equally amazing as well, which says Sikbona meaning "I'm here."
this is interesting because, you missed the part of the Khoi- Dutch wars and the raiding of livestock of the various Chiefdoms in the Cape. It is well documented. Furthermore, the Zulu were the most organized and united, not sure about the strongest. AmaHlubi were a seperate Chiefdom, and when King Langalibalele (King of amaHlubi) was taken by the British and imprisoned in the Cape (hence a place called Langa in the Cape) the Hlubi kingdom experienced serious stability split up...many of them moving to the Eastern Cape.
They always whitewash history to make themselves justified for the crimes they have committed against people. Noticed how they made the people appear less civilized when the nation was pretty advanced. They did not have the same customs, traditions, beliefs, government, family values and etc. but they were not uncivilized.
@Real Rumpelstiltskin Even this video as biased as it is clearly says the Bantu were in South Africa for almost a millennium before the first Europeans arrived. So even their own historians dispute what their claims, yet somehow they still hold on to it
You not sure about the strongest?? Are you joking or you being sacarstic here?? You mean people who won war with spears /shields in gun fight?? Is that even questionable?? Oky... 😏😏
@@nzurimalkia3181 I didn't see any justification in the video. If you mean why they put a lot of white in the history well there are other reasons. 1) The Europeans recorded everything in documents. The Africans didn't have documentation. So we can only know so much about what happened. 2) If anything this video again just highlights that the English Crown were a bunch of assholes that ruined everything for everyone...all of the time.
In politics there are two types of people: those who want to be left alone and those who won't leave them the fuck alone. Nothing describes the historical relationship between the Afrikaners and the British better than this.
Hi there. I am a history teacher in South Africa and was scouting for videos to help teach the Mfecane and South African tribal history circa this period to my children. I was hopeful that this video would help, but it has a very Eurocentric approach. I'd love to perhaps collaborate with you on making more of these kinds of videos that could be used to tell a more concrete story of South African native history that could help history teachers not just in SA but across the world.
This guy is an Afrikaner (the people that brought the world apartheid) and he will support all narratives and accounts of history that justify his people actions. He is hardly a reliable arbitrator of what is and what isn't true.
@@who-ny5oe as it stands now, the only way to get better would be to for it to get way worse, at the current time most people seem to believe things will improve without actually removing the worst issues in the country. Sort of break it down and build it back up again.
So the Dutch founded Cape Town, the French took it off the Dutch, the British took it off the French and gave it back to the Dutch, then the Dutch allied with the French, so the British came back and took it off the Dutch again? I fucking love history
Very well articulated video. I was at a heritage site a few years ago in the North West province and the historian said that the Matabele would attack Tswana tribal lands, kill the elders and women and then recruit the young men into their army, putting them on the vanguard of their ranks for the next attack. It was like a snowball effect. They didn't suffer attrition as they constantly reinforced their army.
Haha jou afrikaans is goed boet! As a South African I can honestly say our country does have a beautiful history but regardless of what’s happening here, I still wake up everyday with a heart filled with hope for an even better future.
Fun fact: in Afrikaans there is a idiom "die Kaap is weer Hollands/ the Cape is dutch again" and it basically means that there is some reason to celebrate like when your sports team has won. This is a reference to when the English gave the Cape back to the Netherlands and the Boers were very happy about that.
Matheu Roux Funny that people who don't own the land give it back to another group who don't own it. It's like I steal your car, someone else steals it from me,....Then later on gives it back to me,....How are you(the actual owner) supposed to feel about all that ?
So my own country's history: Netherlands: This is mine now South Africa: Mkay England:Yeah nah dis is mine now South Africa: mkay..... England: I don't want this anymore here ya go Netherlands: Sweet South Africa: Where tf is my choice- Netherlands: Sike bish I don't want this England: Mkay South Africa: *B0I*
khoikhoi and san are not the same ethnic group.. thy placed them as one cos the languages en culture shared similarities.. aim khoi / bantu descendent and i can't understand when san speak.... i speak khoi language
Agreed, I'm pleasantly surprised by this, it seems well researched and balanced. Someone else in the comments said that the conflicts in the Cape between the Dutch and the Khoi/San were left out, and I'd add that the history of the mixed-race Trekboers of the Northern Cape/Namibia were glossed over, but I assume that's a limitation of the target length of the video. Overall very well done.
Some people are are still confused because some white people say they were there before the bantu etc.. When the Dutch were in cpt all they encountered were the khoi and this is on record, the bantu were already by east coast and those areas..the bantu did not come down to cpt till later, (after the Dutch)
Cool video. But it's funny how you put so much emphasis on shaka Zulu killing people. Yet there is really no mention of the Dutch killing the khoisan and the xhosa people. Like you didn't even mention them killing anybody but there is so much emphasis on shaka Zulu killing people as if the Dutch and British just came here and chilled on some farmlands. Many Africans were slaughtered but you forget to mention that
Bielie 123 lol oh another uninformed idiot who knows nothing about history so decides to just imagine things. The zulu's are not even near the western cape, so how could they be killing the khoi San? Honestly your ignorance is laughable
@@lwazimorris4973 khoisan are black yet we don't benefit from policies meant for black people like BBBEE and 51% black own3d companies stop lying to yourself us Khoisan are only black when u need votes when we need land then we are classified coloureds...KhoiSan are not Black we are Africans unless the aboriginals who are Black in Australia are African whice they are not...just coz Bantu conquered us KhoiSan doesn't mean we are now Black,we are not White and not Black stop assimilating us into ur Bantu tribes we are not decendants of Bantus like you...KhoiSan are not black we Africans your 1 drop in the bucket rule that Applies in USA doesn't apply here,in America if u look black then u are black denying ur native identity for the sake of a fake black unity ...you can do better urself bcoz if we KhoiSan were black then we'd also have our languages(Khoekhoegowab & |Nu) official like the black people's languages(isizulu,isixhosa,venda etc) KhoiSan are not Black we're Africans who were conquered and defeated by Black people before the White people conquered both of us...We are not Black we are African and to be African does not mean to be black lol us KhoiSan decendants are proof of that we were found here by you Bantus and them Europeans,Brown skinned Africans who are now being told we are Black to accomodate you Bantus taking land from our ancestral lands...the Europeans tried to segregate us meanwhile you Bantus are trying to Assimilate us like how Shaka Zulu did with the tribes he conquered...we are not your subjects who have to assimilate into ur tribe to assist with ur land grabs...Bantus are not Brown but are Africans and KhoiSan are not Black but are Africans...leave ur Shaka Zulu assimilation tacticts for another day we will not be told who we are by the same people creating policies trying to discredit and delegitimize us Brown Africans from our own land...
@@lwazimorris4973 you just can't accept the fact that bantus weren't here so early ago it was the Khoekhoe and San,just coz u say the Khoekhoe and San are black doesn't make us bantus hahahaha even Jan Van Riebeeck that colonizer wrote down that he only saw Khoikhoi not bantus until he reached the fish river where there he only found AmaXhosa...your point ain't only invalid it's biased
@@lwazimorris4973 KhoiSan are not Black we're Africans with predominantly Brown or Gold skin whereas Bantus are Africans with predominantly Darker skin or Black skin...next time say KhoiSan are Africans not Black...great insult calling us Black yet the resources and jobs and opportunities only goes to Black(Bantu) people not us Brown people who you claim to be black...
The Koisan were not the "same" group - they were related, but the San (Bushmen - as some prefer to be called) were in South Africa for thousands of years - at least 40 000 years and probably their ancestors were in South Africa for hundreds of thousands of years. The Khoikhoi were San relatives from East Africa that were partially descended from Middle Eastern people who introduced cattle and sheep to them. The KhoiKhoi then moved south to South Africa before the Iron Age Bantu migrations moved into the northern and eastern parts of South Africa. Your pronunciations are not too bad compared to some American videos on the subject. I would point out that Lesotho is pronounced - le-soo-too, and is not shown on the maps in the cartoon. Also - it was mentioned that the Zulus were in the north-east of Africa when they were actually in the east of South Africa.
Nobody was here when the ships arrived. They made up evolution, because Satan told them too. This fight was always evil vs good. Christians fled from persecution and settled on new uninhabited land. Satan sends in his agents to destroy Christianity all over the world. The persecution of the Christians remains. Evolution is a made up lie to wipe true believers out.
So if the Khoisan came in 0BC into the area, who was there when in 600BC Pharaoh Neeko sent the Phoenicians to circumnavigate Africa in their 3 yr journey, including a year long settlement in South Africa to resupply/grow crops?
But Hilbert - and others - say the Khoisan came into the Cape area around the year 0? I know there were people way before - but did a catastrophe or something kill them off so the Khoisan could come in?
Piet Retief was betrayed by dingane. Dingane had signaled a negociation for a truce, but told the boere to leave their guns outside in the name of piece. When the boers then made their way into the tent at the time, rhey were sprung by a bunch of spear wielding zulus who quickly killed them.
Muziwakhe Skhosana the only thing you can take is offense. Victim mentality is what you're heads been indoctrinated with. Here's a TH-cam challenge... Maybe try to think for yourself rather than regurgitating nonsense. We are all part of the same body. Some just choose to be the anus and then they spew shit everywhere. It's OK. Through education we will train the anus not to shit himself the whole time.
Kaanu coetzee what most people are not told is that the British had visited Dingane before Piet Retief went to the meeting, makes me wonder what bs they told Dingane that he reacted like that.
I never did any of that, I was born during the late 90s on land within the European union. My family have been in Africa ever sence the 40s and we aren't going anywhere bicth :P Europeans have been in Africa sence the Antiquity and we aint going anywhere! Dutch Entered the Cape Province before Bantus ever did idiot, learn history or won't you low IQ Allow it. Besides Mexico was created by Spanjards, Spanjards are European so I guess you wannna thow out all Mexcians out of Mexico and force them back to Europe? NO! Europeans CREATED United States, Mexico, South Africa, Namibia, Austalia and a lot more. I fyou wanna live in a naiton created by Europeans, respect Europeans or gtfo :P Have you even been to afirca?
JWille Series - We are taking the land back whether you like it or not and your insults do not offend us, to be honest. Show us 1 European country where non-whites own more than whites. Name just one!
We never asked for any of this generosity. Why do you guys care so much about us? We are happy to starve, we are happy to have no civilisation, we are happy to have no farms, we are happy to wear animal skin. Why do European Dutch decedents feel obliged to help Africans in Africa?
This is INCOMPLETE. The europeans first came into contact with the Xhosa people...and they fought 100-year-long wars called THE FRONTIER WARS. These wars were from 1778 to 1878, after which the Zulu wars started in 1879.... Actually I think it was the BRITISH who fought with the Xhosas...Remember the Xhosas were and are the southernmost Niger-Congo peoples in South Africa, and therefore they had to defeat the Xhosas before proceeding to the Zulus.
Sandile Meshaki Tukani No, the first people Europeans made contact with here were the Khoi. When Dias' expedition landed in modern Mossel Bay looking for fresh water Attaqua Khoi threw rocks at them, Dias personally shot one with a crossbow. The VOC founded Cape Town, the Xhosa never settled west of the Great Fish River, as the colony expanded eastwards and added the Graaff-Reinet district local vryburger settlers started sending pleas for help to the Tembu chiefs against the Bushmen burning down their farms in exchange for land and cattle, because the Cape's Political Council didn't care about far away problems and didn't want to antagonise the Bushmen and Xhosa into an expensive war. Companies are interested in making profit not war. This eastward expansion and Tembu westward expansion erupted into clashes with the Xhosa, these 'Boere' having formed kommandos (the same system they took northward) to combat the San. Of the nine Xhosa wars, two were between these VOC vryburgers/Trekboere/Boere (and reluctantly the VOC's Cape Political Council) and the Xhosa. The British fought seven border wars against the Xhosa.
I am married to a Xhosa woman named Lihle and she told me about the Khoisan people and she pronounces it that way according to my newish ears. Xhosa and Zulu are very close languages but the cultures are a bit different. She was super happy to watch Black Panther in theaters with me in Tennessee and they were speaking her language when they didn't speak English. She said Chad Boseman and the cast did a great job. Many of the cast were South African already but there were lots of Americans. Rest in peace Chad.
I think she was being generous with the none South African actors in that movie. Their pronunciation was barely adequate and a bit awful at times. I'm Xhosa as well so I know.
A lot of people in my high school here in South Africa disliked the film for using Xhosa instead of other South African languages like Sotho and Zulu and disliked it when the teacher brought up the offer to watch the film in class with them calling it an white American view/version of Africans and African languages.
8 never understood this, afrikaaners are the most well off people in the country, they deal with a lot of hate but nothing will ever really materialize into a full on genocide, hell, theres barely any crimes against whites on ethnic reasons, they are victimized for the same reason other Black's are - greed.
Unintelligent Comment Terrorist “barely any crimes against whites on ethnic reasons”. Thousands of attacks on boer farmers that included mutilations of children, rape and brutal slaughter. A law that was past with over 80 percent in the parliament that allows the lands of white farmers to be taken with no reason or compensation. And actual threats made by politicians against the boers that they should be worried about violence, along with them singing “kill the boer”. No guess that’s all made up.
Sunguluez456 that is NOT an ethnic reason, farms are large isolated yet rich plots of land which are acres away from their nearest neighbour's and 100s away from the nearest police station. It doesn't take much common sense for a thief to think of it as the best possible place to rob. Hell, there are more whites in suburban areas yet most of the crime is focused on majority black areas.
Hilbert, you should look into reading The Seed is Mine: The Life of Kas Maine, a South African Sharecropper 1894-1985, by Charles van Onselen. It is really a key document to South African rural history, not only when it comes to black history but in understanding the social and transformative dynamics that has shaped and scarred South Africa.
This half-baked His-story is void of important facts and as such advances the false narrative that European settlers never occupied South Africa but merely "discovered" and founded it. 1. You fail to mention that in 1487 Bartholomew Dias was was first to land on Southern Africa (Namibia), and that when he tried stealing fresh water in an area near what's now called Mossels Bay he and his men were resisted by the Khoisan and had to flee. Vasco's voyage was a second voyage to Southern Africa. Like his predecessor, in 1497 he too had a fallout with the Khoisan about fresh water and he and his men again had to flee. Again in 1510 Francisco de Almeida and 200 armed soldiers tried to occupy South Africa after their attempt to steal cattle from the Khoisan failed, but again they were overwhelmed by the Khoisan and some 80 armed men died in the hands of the Khoisan who were armed with spears, bows and stones. The point Im trying to make here is that the false narrative that settlers were only resisted inland by a mighty nguni leader is false. Secondly, the idea that the so called "Bantu's" invaded the Khoisan and displaced them is also wrong.The Khoisan were not a simple nation of gatherers they were a strong nation with military might and a sense of territorial ownership. The truth is that they co-existed and inter-married with what you call the "Bantus". 2. Your presentation makes no mention of the fact that in 1952 Jan Van Riebeeck who was briefed about the failed previous attempts by the Portuguese, came with three ships; massacred the Khoisan Resistance and turned some nguni men and some Khoisan into slaves to work the land. He even ordered the VOC to supply him with slaves from the Portuguese (who had stolen them from local Nguni chieftains inland and Asia) since the Khoisan were small in stature and were not good slaves. The raiding of small so called "Bantu" Chieftains is what ultimately led to the rise of what is called the "Zulu Kingdom". The important point to note here is that there is no way "Bantu's" could have invaded the Khoisan, they lived in small clans and were as a result vulnerable to slave traders and could not resist them as the Khoisan did. It was only post the multiple raids of Nguni Chieftains by Europeans that they began mobilizing and uniting to form the Mighty Zulu Kingdom and by then European threat had already started spreading inland having already overwhelmed the Khoisan.
mohlomphehi, so are you saying small groups of a few men with cattle and mostly women and children and livestock armed with muskets displaced and murdered masses of black tribes and destroyed wakanda? What pipe are you smoking? Also, how shit are your tribes if a bunch of homesteaders can displace them. You're living a very false narrative. Your tribes - if they're even your tribes because you probably are descended from people north of SA who came to SA during apartheid due to the better living conditions under 'white rule' - were annihilated in the difaqane by the Zulus. Fact.
This was a really good video Hilbert and thank you for it. It was however only 10 minutes long and obviously didnt cover everything. It's also unfortunate that the only deaths that were mentioned were black on black, since some South Africans in the comment section are out here using this ONE video as leverage to back up their views on the issues of land we are currently facing. Our country honestly needs to grow tf up
@@andilecliffsibeko8711 The Bantu speakers were spreading in the Cape Colony only in 1600s. I believe that when people say "black were there as long as whites", they don't talk about SA in modern borders, but about Cape Colony as it was several centuries ago
@@KateeAngel The is lots of archeological proof debunking that skewed history and lots of iron tools and furnaces are proof that the Bantu have been in South Africa for over 2000 years.... The Xhosa and Tswana are a hybrid of the Bantu,Khoikhoi and San , The Xhosa language consists of the Khoe and San languages which proves that they have been here long and proof of intermarriage between tribes !!
@@andilecliffsibeko8711 Yes, but the Xhosa didn't administer or settle as far west as Cape Town or even Swellendam. It was more fertile in the Eastern Cape, there was no reason to go west. The Western Cape isn't even such a nice place, it only got settled because of Table Bay's natural harbor.
@@wolfieinu I know only the San and Khoikhoi settled in the Cape... I was only stating that the local Bantu groups did not kill off the San as they are mixed that's why South Africans are lighter than our other African brothers and Sisters !!
Hilbert i ve read the british demands in the past, i think i forgotten how outrageous they were. Scones national dish and mouth hygiene prohibition! Tea and cricket xD man love this, jokes are very good for releasing some tension, nice.
Flowz Flowz, yes because they were actually there. There is no history of South Africa penned by the people who weren't there.......because they weren't there!
South Africa is probably the most interesting European colony and state in Africa, and I always really liked the Boers, I just think it's a shame that their history and legacy are being trampled upon in today's society.
bob marleey 1) Bantus are just as native to south Africa as the Boers. If you want them gone, you got to get rid of the Bantu invaders as well 2) Despite the humanitarian issues, Zimbabwe was better off under European rule.
Stanley Dougé just because a Welsh man is from Europe does not mean he is "native" to Greece. If he moved to Greece and his descendants continue to live there, then Greece becomes their homeland. This is the same with South Africa. My statement on Bantus being just as native as Boers still stands, because Boers began to colonize the nearly unpopulated south around the same time Bantus conquered their way from the north.
thear can not be ANY discussion about south Africa without some one saying the whites must go and the blacks own evy thing since thy are black. No on ever want's to move on and learn from the past and thus is prone to repeat it every Time. I as a white South African want to move on and build from the past not repeat it the world or in this case south africa is plenty big for every one. I want my son to have a Boer history as mutch as the zulu his son's . BUT. Stop blaming whites and blacks and get the one's pulling the strings out Killing South Africa regardless of Race FFS its 2018 are we ever gona grow up or keep on being 5 year olds saying he stole my ball i must steal his whatever or he hit me i must kill him. FFS i know it is not a 123 now its done but can we atlest head in a direction stop standing on one place saying the same things and throwing stones or are we gona start accepting one another. I know this is a Empty prayer for peace to prosper but i have hope.
Well I live in Singapore where there are basically no ethnic tensions and the way the government achieves this is: stop talking about it, a very large program of tolerance and making a nation-wide Singaporean identity. This means politics very rarely talks about race as a defining feature of a politician. Do you think this method could work in SA given enough time.
SuperSmashyfication Boers don't belong in Africa at all! Whites like this geography game about who does or doesn't belong in South Africa based on origin! But they came from Europe; so they don't belong on the continent at all! Africa for Africans! Africans First!
earaza I agree! And we stop selling resources to you, slowing the growth of your economy! Is that a deal? (The Mission: to deliver Africans from european oppression and slavery!) Africa for Africans! Africans First!
Thanks so much for this - the world needs to know this history, because the ANC's approach to history - and especially the EFF's approach is very much 1984ish Orwellian.
Oh, we have *every* business in Africa. The Afrikaner is fully indigenous in Africa - we have no European home, as we formed into a distinct nation on African soil. And your racism is not a valid argument. Bet you didn't watch the video. Bet you're African-American.
You are the foreigner. You live somewhere in the America's and Africa is some racist ideological symbol to you. For me, this is a real place, this is my home, my entire life is here, I have no where else to go. I am the African, you are not.
I love the fact that me, being a white indigenous African native to this land, is getting under your skin. Yes, your ancestors might be from Ghana, but they were your ANCESTORS. You, on the other hand, is an American - who probably never set foot on the African continent in your life. You are nothing of Africa, just like I am nothing of Europe. In fact, it is very likely that very empire of Ghana that sold your ancestors to the slave trade that took them to America. Stop living in the past and get with the times. Fun fact: Did you know that Wakanda is not Africa, and it is actually a fictional place that does not, and has never existed?
You've got ...... "properties" in Ghana? Is that all? If you lived in Africa, you would've just said so. Instead, you have "properties in Ghana". So, if you love Africa so much, how come you not _live_ on those "properties" on a permanent basis? Hmmm? Have you gotten too spoiled with the luxurious lifestyle there in America? And no, I didn't come here on a boat, I was *born* here, and you were not. That is the end of the discussion: I'm African and you're not. What happened a ka-zillion years ago with your ancestors are irrelevant. You are not your ancestors, you are you. Also, South Africa's history is not the same as Africa's history. The Dutch is not just another colonial power who divided Africa up in 1885. We were indigenous to Africa long before Europe had any serious interests in Africa, long before 1885. As much as that spoils your simplistic narrative, that is the truth, and you denying it will not change anything. "But I believe that you are not. You're European." - what you believe is irrelevent. Only what is true is relevant. " Your skin is pale." - which would make you a racist and a bigot. " And my ancestors were slaves to white people." - And lets not forget who sold your ancestors to the slave trades: Black Africans. Lets not forget who ended the slave trade: White Europeans. Lets not forget who still trade in black slaves even today: African Arabs. Ouch - but I suppose that is all to complex for your simple mind to grasp. "Only black people are indigenous to sub-Saharan Africa" - well, actually, you're wrong again. If you want to talk about the first indigenous people of Southern Africa, that would be the Khoi-San hunter gatherers. They're not black, but pale skinned. And guess who took their land away from them apart from the White settlers from the South? The Black settlers from the North. That's right: Blacks are no less and no more indigenous to South Africa than Whites. In fact, whites have been in the Cape for 100 years before we ever came across the first black person. Doh. There goes your simplistic ideology down the drain. Oops. " 3 million white people in South Africa 50 million blacks" - So much for the claim that we have committed genocide then. "You're going to be subjugated for the rest of your existence on that continent," - Watch this space. " you will never run azania again!" - You can call a rose by any name, as long as it smells the same. South Africa is my home, regardless of what it's called.
Hi History with Hilbert. Can you recommend books I could read to further my understanding of South African history from the interaction between Bantu and Khiosan all the way to just before apartheid. Thank you so much for this video it has shed so much light. Thank you!
i knew the comments here were going to be awful, as South Africa, i expected nothing less than racist comments and black south africans angrily wanting to be heard. i hope our country will one day resolve its issues. racism and anger only fuels more hatred and separation. we need to do better.
The Boer should be allowed Asylum in Canada, UK, Netherlands, USA, Australia, etc. Wherever they want to go. Give the land to the Africans, move on. Is a farm worth your life? If so your life has little value or you are blinded by greed. Surely a group of whites didn't think it was gonna work out in the long run? You are surrounded by hostiles. The Boer should be happy they haven't already been wiped out. I'm not saying any of this is justified, but human nature shows a pattern and no race has room to criticize. There are plenty of places in the west that want farmers. Cut your loses, pack up, move. If you don't, well. Don't expect a war to break out to save your asses in a time of high war fatigue.
The San where actually the first people in South Africa they arrived there about 1800 B.C the KhoiKhoi first came to South Africa about 250 B.C but if people from the two different groups got married then it would be Khoisan
augnkn93043 Then explain to us why the large estate owning, slaveholding Cape Dutch and merchant class stayed in the Cape once the U.K. Parliament abolish slavery in 1834? By the way during VOC rule most slaves were owned by the Company itself. I have explained to you before that Trekboere (later Boere) didn't own slaves as a frontier farm in a dry area doesn't lend itself to it. One does not need slaves to keep sheep, cattle or crow foodcrops. You realise that the VOC as a profit venture kept excellent records? This was an expansion to the northeast where we receive the most rainfall and productive land. And the two largest and most prominent Boer Republics both prohibited slavery in their constitutions. You seem hellbent on perpetuating myths.
Dutch East India Company was owned by Christian Jews , Google it . They had ships specially for the slave trade to America as well. The Boers were mainly from the Brabant region of Flaandre and Friesland as well as French and German .
I would like you to do a video on east Africa, because as a Somali person, people forget that we were never slaves, the Portuguese attacked us and we drove them out, some of them even settled in north of Somalia, that’s why we the Barao tribe who are look light skin.
Can anyone tell me where I can find the video where he links this history to current events and politics? I don't seem to be able to find it on his channel.
So if the Boers went into space, would the migration be called Star Trek? 🤔
What a comment xD
Darth Guilder Rather "Sterretrek". Actually, the word "Trek" in "Star Trek" ultimately derives from the Afrikaans word.
Darth Guilder ja
Darth Guilder So Elon Musk is a treky.
A "Star Trek" Would obviously be undertaken by 'Star Boers'.
I love South Africa and reading about South African history. I did this for many hours for years as a teenager, and when I moved to South Africa, I found that I knew much more about South African history than my Afrikaner friends who had learned South African history at school (ANC curriculum).
Yea they don’t teach us about black people. They start South African history in 1652 when van Riebieck or whatever his name is sailed over here
Also white people still control this country so it’s too simple to say it’s the ANC curriculum. It’s more complicated than that old chap
@@lungakosomdyala4077 how so? When I was in primary school 06 to 13 basically all of the history we learnt where about our local town and pre 1652, the only thing we where thought in class about 1652 where the Dutch came build a castle and sold "firesticks" to the natives. And everything in high school 14 to 18 was about apartheid and white man bad and look what the whites did to the poor black man and some random stuff about the first Chinese Emperor and the shonghai empire. With a little bit of here's the bad things Stalin did and now excplain in 2 to 3 pages why stalin was a good guy and why his policy's worked and try to mention the 20 million plus dead as a good thing. My primary school teacher got mad that we where not learning about anything newer than 1652 and took us around town as a class to buildings build after that period and then told us when they where build and what was going on in the local area during that time, also went to the trek monument and the oldest church in the area. From talking to my collage teachers is less of a white man run the country and more of anc not wanting to pay to make new stuff, for ex the electrical stuff I'm studying in class now was outdated back in 1980's South Africa as anything made in 1954 would be especially a engineering course but for some reason the DEHT hasn't really addressed this and have thus far only recently slapped in renewable energy on some training levels especially on the n2 one.
@@lungakosomdyala4077what have you been smoking we dont control the country
@@lungakosomdyala4077why didn’t you lot have your own written history when the white man got here? Oh, I forgot you didn’t even manage to write when they got here. Like 1+1 was not yet figured out.
Where my South African at 🙋
Right here
Eks ook nou hier
broski me studing for an exam
Hierso
Braaiing, bliksem. 🙋♀️
Awesome video as always Hilbert, really well done!
Griff
Cheers Griff, it's been great working with you and I love what we've both come up with!
Suprised to find the same channel who came from wellingtontheduke with 300 subs to come to 50k subs today
Good job griff
Also mention must be made for the great attempt at prenounciation.
th-cam.com/video/4xk1hsC2CHI-/w-d-xo.html TRUTH OF THE SLAUGHTER BY THE DUTCH....WHEN THE GOLD WAS FOUND...BRITISH BOUGHT BACK AMERICA WITH SOUTH AFRICAN GOLD AND DIAMONDS.....HIS FACTS ARE NOT TRUE....KNOW YOUR HISTORY. ENSLAVEMENT OF PEOPLE AND DEATH WAS THEIR GOAL...NOTHING BUT KILLERS...THIS IS FACT...
What about the Kingdom of Mapungubwe? It was a Bantu civilization kingdom believed to be the predecessor to Great Zimbabwe in the north. It appeared in 1075 and declined around 1220, existing just south of the Limpopo river in what would become the northern Transvaal(now Limpopo province). Like great Zimbabwe, it had large stone structures, and gold/ivory/copper trade routes to Kilwa and the rest of the Swahili coast cities, and engaged in indirect trade across the Indian ocean. It was part of the Bakalanga Kingdom. It is thought by many archeologists to be the first true class based civilization in southern Africa. It was also one of the earliest evidence of "sacred leadership". Its style of building would later be replicated in Butua, Mutapa, Maravi, Rozwi and Zimbabwe. It was one of the most complex and powerful kingdoms in what is now south africa, and would really be the renaissance that would shape later societies like Zimbabwe, Butua, the Tsonga Thembe, and other kingdoms in and around south africa.
Mapungubwe was in the southist point in Zimbabwe not sa
Ruan is a day dreamer like this idiot trying so hard to refute our rightful claim to the land. You would care to know that the same ruins in mapungubwe stretched from Zulu land into Johannesburg right up into zimbabwe. And it dates further than 1200s. What you would find of those remains now are huge stone circles.
Ruan do you know that there were no borders then?
@It's just me The civilizations already existed, but because of your ethnocentric view of hat a civilization is, you don't see it that way.
@Nanda Das Please explain yourself more clearly. Right now it looks like you are saying that Maphungubwe and later Great Zimbabwe was not founded by Bantu people who had been there for centuries. All the archeological evidence points to them being founded by Bantu peoples, from the Bantu migration that started around 300 BC (possibly earlier), to it being clear that from around 300 AD (possibly earlier) the Bantu peoples were firmly in the land now known as South Africa. And I am living out the archeological evidence found in the previous locations of these kingdoms cementing even further that they were in fact built by the Bantu peoples.
So please explain what you meant by, "that civilazation collapsed and the descendants migrated away then thousands of years after the Bantu people returned".
Please be very clear and leave no room for misinterpretation of your words.
This video is really good. As a South African history teacher, it is something I will actually use as a resource for my students. Thanks.
Agree, and I’m nowhere near as familiar with South African history as other parts of the world (like the Pacific Islands or the US).
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Fine ima speak Africans hulle jou asvoël gaan leer Africans
@@Withou7Fe4R Jou Afrikaans is beetjie gebreek
Ja Ek weet
@@qludo Yours is not correct either 🤣
Those Boers really can't catch a break.
You'd think history would get boered of screwing them over time and again...
Apartheid
what about apartheid the new or old one?
Johan Strydom okey😂
In America there are places only black people can go to this day. No white only spots anymore though.
Wait...Hilbert speaks Zulu? I get the feeling there's a dark history here we have not been told.
Ja what can I say I'm actually recording these videos from my hut in KwaZulu Natal...
Monsieur Z One thing you wrong in this video is the Bantus not living there. That's incorrect I'm afraid. But I guess that's what happens when your an armchair historian.
I speak Xhosa.
Xhosa, not Zulu
What you mean hut bru , if you are in a hut it must be some kind of resort , we got concrete buildings bro didn't you get the memo , udlale ngawe lomuntu ukuqhashele ihut, akazi ukuthi asisadli imbuye ngothi
If someone tried to tax my stroopwafels that would be an instant rebellion.
And God help anyone who tries to ban them.
Stroopwafels, drop en hagelslag 🤣😂🤣
If the government bans braaiing I'll kill the president
I'm actually a descendant of a Lord-Director of the Dutch West Indies Company, who is also named as the Patroon of Zwaanendeal, Mathijs Jansen van Keulen. Has nothing to do with this video, but I figured it was sufficiently Dutch to share.
That's cool
Nederlands genoeg feitje voor mij. Dankjewel mijnheer :D
@melak tss daar kan hij niks aan doen
Awesome! Your ancestor’s company colonized part of northeast Brazil.
Many Brazilians wish that you Dutch stayed here, but my ancient ancestors kicked you guys out of here because we had big debt with the company and they were demanding the debt payment. (Not to mention my ancestors were catholic and the Dutch were Protestant.)
Now I am Protestant and maybe it would be nice if the Dutch stayed
@@kaleomariz1000 Evangelicals in Brazil are crazy though. Catholic gang forever.
Props to you for the effort you put in pronouncing Xhosa 🙆🏾♀️🙆🏾♀️💖💖
I’m soo happy this oak got the facts right . Bantu and Khoisan where in SA thousand years before first Europeans arrived
Rocky Fletch where is the summer rainfall region ?
Yeah I'm also glad too
Yes,and their was native,if im not mistake 😷
Who ever said they weren't?
@@jamesmay1900 Afrikaner nationalists trying to justify apartheid bantustans.
My friend, your knowledge of this topic is very uninformed, eurocentric(made-up) and flawed,....To say the least, I suggest you do proper research before making such a video,.....Here are some points to ponder.
1 The Khoe/Khoi( of which I'm a descendant) and the San, are different people, who arrived in SA millennia apart, and they DIDN'T live in the same vicinity,...Just like the Irish and the Scottish are world's apart.
2. The bantu, is a collective word( like Caucasian), it includes more than 20 different african people, some are Indigenous to South Africa, others are NOT,....There are the Ngunis( Northerners) who migrated to South Africa at different times, centuries apart, and there are Barwa( Southerners) who were in South Africa, South West, Botswana, Mozambique Zambia et.c, thousands of years before 1652, there's ample archeological evidence to prove that,....Remember there was no South Africa as you know it now, it was Batswanaland, Basotholand, Mashonaland et.c....Most of these countries now form bits inside South Africa.
3. Some Early Bantu migrated southward to South Africa some 2000 years ago about the same time as the khoi/Khoe,....While other bantu groups have been here before that, along with the San, ....Again there's archeological evidence to that.
4. Bantu were mining iron ore in South Africa, in the region's of North West, Gauteng, Mpumalanga, Limpopo, KZN between 12AD and 500AD,....A thousand years before the first Portuguese, Arabs et.c first set foot here.
Your limited knowledge of South Africa does not allow you to teach a subject you're at most CLUELESS about.
Good comment.
True my brother
Thank you for speaking the truth!
He generally doesn't go into pre history. But I too am not satisfied with his description of the khoisan.
@@chesterdonnelly1212 The story of the khoena(Khoi) and the Xam(San) people has been highly romanticised and europeanised to the extent that it’s far from the truth.
1. The khoe and Xam are not SPECIFIC to South Africa( where South Africa is a colonial concept of borders following colonization by the British and internal migration of the 1652 “boer” settlers from Holland). They are found anywhere in sub Saharan africa, Namibia, Botswana, Zambia, Angola, Malawi, Tanzania, Kenya et.c
2. Prior to the Europeans settling, between (900AD and 1400AD) a lot of khoe and Xam had already abandoned their foraging lifestyle and assimilated into the “Bantu” communities, as the latter were more advanced in agriculture, village settlements, livestock and iron/copper smelting. So a substantial percentage of people who are called “Bantu” in South Africa, are actually khoe and San, especially in the Xhosa, Tswana and Sotho peoples. Much like how some Amerindian( Sioux,Apache, Choktaw, Cheyenne,Comanche, Biloxi et.c) ended up being cowboys and speaking English, some living in New York and working for IBM, ....but genetically and physically they remain Amerindian. My point is, it’s not ONLY the skin wearing, desert dwelling and hunting people that are San or Khoi, You do find Khoi/San people living in Johannesburg or Cape Town, working for Microsoft or Mercedes Benz,...speaking Xhosa or Tswana,...even though genetically they are not Tswana or Xhosa, yet physically they look obviously San.
The story of the Bantu displacing the khoe or San is a fabrication that never happened,...Bantu being agricultural, settled in vegetative areas, and khoi and San being hunter gatherers preferred semi arid plains where predatory wildlife is scarce.
The story of the indigenous people of South Africa is far more complex that what Europeans want you to think.
As a white guy i was interested in learning the history of s.a and our bantu friends and i discovered that the contemporary history of south africa is as a result of the scramble for africa but prior to that the ottoman empire were the colonizers of s.a and according to the ottomans the bantu migration into s.a started more 3000 years ago while the portuguese,the dutch and the british only came to s.a from the 1400s onwards and during that time the moorish empire of north africa were invading spain and portugal and the portuguese circumnavigated africa as a counter attack of the crusades wars between the roman empire and the ottoman empire.the victors of the crusades which were us white people(roman empire) then took s.a from the ottomans.according to arabic texts in the book of zanj,before the 1400's south africa was known as Azania and the bantu were known as the the zanj people of the zanj empire of south and east Africa hence modern day countries with names like ZANZIbar tANZANIA and mZANZI (the zulu name for South Africa).Zanj was a name used by medieval Muslim geographers to refer to both a certain portion of South of Africa primarily the Swahili Coast and to the area's Bantu inhabitants. The indian ocean around s.a was known as the Sea of Zanj, and included the Mascarene islands and Madagascar. During the anti-apartheid struggle it was proposed that South Africa should assume the name Azania, to reflect ancient Zanj.The term Zanj apparently fell out of use in the tenth century,the appellation in Persian is roughly equivalent with "negro". It is recorded in Arabic as zanjī (زنجي), and in Turkish as zencî. and seng ze in chinese.The tenth-century Arab historian and geographer Abu al-Hasan 'Alī al-Mas'ūdī describes Zanj as the country of the blacks in the south of africa.
No foreskin equals no Paradise.
10 Minutes of Hilbert!
You're welcome ;)
Where my south Africans desperately trying to pass history at 🙋♀️
Nailed it🙋
Yeah usually when someone makes a history of south Africa there is great controversy, for a foreigner this guy pretty much nailed it.
Hierso
your pronunciation of Khoikhoi is actually solid
so... unless "expropriation without compensation" means: "give the land back to the Khoi-san", anyone who utters those words is an ABSOLUTE HYPOCRITE
Harry Nobutee lol but the khoisan are African and this redistribution is for Africans so idk what you are crying about
not exactly... those touting expropriation, are indeed mostly not of Khoisan descent... what's happening in SA (just as what similarly happened prior in Rhodesia) is sad...I'm just pointing out the complete hypocrisy
Harry Nobutee no. Please don't come with your segregatory tactics. Africans are calling for expropriation of land. Don't try and divide us and say there is black and khoisan, we are all black and African. Nd we have one voice on this issue, the stolen land needs to go back to africans
absolutely WRONG... The non-Khoisan descended blacks currently occupying SA have no more rights to land than similarly occupying whites... "stolen" is a total conflation of term, but if you want to insist on using the term, non-Khoisan BLACKS originally "stole the land" from the Khoisan people, LONG before whites ever showed up...
Harry Nobutee you are lying lol. Firstly there was no South Africa, so how far was this land claim by the khoisan. Nd secondly, the khoisan occupied the cape, that was their area and they could live there with the xhosa's. How can you say the khoisan owned south Africa because their population couldn't even occupy the whole of South africa. South Africa is the 24th biggest country in the world, it is huge, so how could one tribe claim such a vast space, That's literally impossible, they claimed the cape, nd that's where white people came and killed and subdued them.
Please use your common sense before responding, your ignorance is getting boring now
I'm from South Africa and I must say your pronunciation is superb, both with African languages and Afrikaans. Enjoyed the video, brushed up on my SA history and reminded me of a few things. Thumbs up!
The "Verkoopt u ook stroopwafels?" and the "stroopwafelbelasting" killed me 😂
hahha ja ik ging ook helemaal kapot
The similarities between the Boers and colonial Americans are striking. Protestant farmers immigrating to a distant land, not wanting to pay taxes, encroaching on native lands, enslaving the natives, fighting a guerrilla war against the British for independence, and later on implementing apartheid while the southern US implemented segregation. It’s really surprising how many parallels there are.
White settlers are acting the same everywhere.
Also the Dutch colonised New York and Western Cape and both were snatched by the British
I knew the word Sawabona and I really love the meaning of that greeting, which means "I see you". Then the response to that is equally amazing as well, which says Sikbona meaning "I'm here."
Emmanuel Matu wrong
@@nalosowazi Only the spelling is wrong, everything is a good enough translation.
*sawubona
*sikhona
Very accurate video! It's such a shame that people disregard the facts and stick to the rumours they hear. I love history so much!
this is interesting because, you missed the part of the Khoi- Dutch wars and the raiding of livestock of the various Chiefdoms in the Cape. It is well documented. Furthermore, the Zulu were the most organized and united, not sure about the strongest. AmaHlubi were a seperate Chiefdom, and when King Langalibalele (King of amaHlubi) was taken by the British and imprisoned in the Cape (hence a place called Langa in the Cape) the Hlubi kingdom experienced serious stability split up...many of them moving to the Eastern Cape.
They always whitewash history to make themselves justified for the crimes they have committed against people. Noticed how they made the people appear less civilized when the nation was pretty advanced. They did not have the same customs, traditions, beliefs, government, family values and etc. but they were not uncivilized.
Yea but 10000 Zulus where driven back by more or less a 100 boere women children and men at the slag van bloed rivier...reminds me of that 300 movie😝
@Real Rumpelstiltskin Even this video as biased as it is clearly says the Bantu were in South Africa for almost a millennium before the first Europeans arrived. So even their own historians dispute what their claims, yet somehow they still hold on to it
You not sure about the strongest?? Are you joking or you being sacarstic here?? You mean people who won war with spears /shields in gun fight?? Is that even questionable?? Oky... 😏😏
@@nzurimalkia3181 I didn't see any justification in the video. If you mean why they put a lot of white in the history well there are other reasons. 1) The Europeans recorded everything in documents. The Africans didn't have documentation. So we can only know so much about what happened. 2) If anything this video again just highlights that the English Crown were a bunch of assholes that ruined everything for everyone...all of the time.
In politics there are two types of people: those who want to be left alone and those who won't leave them the fuck alone. Nothing describes the historical relationship between the Afrikaners and the British better than this.
so many people overlook the bantu expansion when they think of south Africa
Hilbert * Says KhoiKhoi right * I probably butchered that
Also Hilbert : the boar war
he's dutch, probably saying it right
Hi there. I am a history teacher in South Africa and was scouting for videos to help teach the Mfecane and South African tribal history circa this period to my children. I was hopeful that this video would help, but it has a very Eurocentric approach. I'd love to perhaps collaborate with you on making more of these kinds of videos that could be used to tell a more concrete story of South African native history that could help history teachers not just in SA but across the world.
As a South African citizen I can confirm most of these facts
This guy is an Afrikaner (the people that brought the world apartheid) and he will support all narratives and accounts of history that justify his people actions. He is hardly a reliable arbitrator of what is and what isn't true.
@@villakay7957
Ah i figured that. He was on some lowkey racist shit
@@villakay7957 Listen good man remember that the governemnt did it not the people
Love South Africa! I really hope things brighten up there soon.
It is already on the way. 👌👌
@@damanredarnishu5509 eish baba
It will things can't stay bad forever even if it takes a long time
@@who-ny5oe as it stands now, the only way to get better would be to for it to get way worse, at the current time most people seem to believe things will improve without actually removing the worst issues in the country. Sort of break it down and build it back up again.
It hasn't....
So the Dutch founded Cape Town, the French took it off the Dutch, the British took it off the French and gave it back to the Dutch, then the Dutch allied with the French, so the British came back and took it off the Dutch again? I fucking love history
Very well articulated video. I was at a heritage site a few years ago in the North West province and the historian said that the Matabele would attack Tswana tribal lands, kill the elders and women and then recruit the young men into their army, putting them on the vanguard of their ranks for the next attack. It was like a snowball effect. They didn't suffer attrition as they constantly reinforced their army.
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Haha jou afrikaans is goed boet! As a South African I can honestly say our country does have a beautiful history but regardless of what’s happening here, I still wake up everyday with a heart filled with hope for an even better future.
Fun fact: in Afrikaans there is a idiom "die Kaap is weer Hollands/ the Cape is dutch again" and it basically means that there is some reason to celebrate like when your sports team has won. This is a reference to when the English gave the Cape back to the Netherlands and the Boers were very happy about that.
Matheu Roux Funny that people who don't own the land give it back to another group who don't own it. It's like I steal your car, someone else steals it from me,....Then later on gives it back to me,....How are you(the actual owner) supposed to feel about all that ?
@@pmolapo
Humans do not own land or nature on this planet in general. Nature owns us
@@pmolapo Fuck off back to Nigeria then where your ancestors are from, if you're so into the "finders keepers" bullshit.
@It's just me (laughs in Arabic)
So my own country's history:
Netherlands: This is mine now
South Africa: Mkay
England:Yeah nah dis is mine now
South Africa: mkay.....
England: I don't want this anymore here ya go
Netherlands: Sweet
South Africa: Where tf is my choice-
Netherlands: Sike bish I don't want this
England: Mkay
South Africa: *B0I*
Net so my friend
This happened so many times we have a saying. "Die Kaap is weer Hollands"
south africa now: maybe it wasnt so bad
Years of disinfrancing and looting and pillaging.
@@ohhi5237 South Africa now: Finally freedom
khoikhoi and san are not the same ethnic group.. thy placed them as one cos the languages en culture shared similarities.. aim khoi / bantu descendent and i can't understand when san speak.... i speak khoi language
I wish you went on a bit further, this is really interesting and quite accurate
Agreed, I'm pleasantly surprised by this, it seems well researched and balanced. Someone else in the comments said that the conflicts in the Cape between the Dutch and the Khoi/San were left out, and I'd add that the history of the mixed-race Trekboers of the Northern Cape/Namibia were glossed over, but I assume that's a limitation of the target length of the video. Overall very well done.
My great Grandpa's brother was in that army and I am South African
French 🥖 Names 2023. You are entitled to compensation before Islamo -Fascists in France.
Some people are are still confused because some white people say they were there before the bantu etc.. When the Dutch were in cpt all they encountered were the khoi and this is on record, the bantu were already by east coast and those areas..the bantu did not come down to cpt till later, (after the Dutch)
Cool video. But it's funny how you put so much emphasis on shaka Zulu killing people. Yet there is really no mention of the Dutch killing the khoisan and the xhosa people. Like you didn't even mention them killing anybody but there is so much emphasis on shaka Zulu killing people as if the Dutch and British just came here and chilled on some farmlands. Many Africans were slaughtered but you forget to mention that
Johan Strydom those are lies. Please research on king Leopold the second and how he killed 10 million Africans. Research before you type dude
The Khoi San weren’t killed mostly by the boers but by the Zulu’s
Bielie 123 lol oh another uninformed idiot who knows nothing about history so decides to just imagine things. The zulu's are not even near the western cape, so how could they be killing the khoi San? Honestly your ignorance is laughable
Boerboel 1652 king Leopold, ever heard of him or what the Germans did to the namibians?
excellent and factual. This ought to be watched by anyone interested in the land expropriation debate taking place in South Africa
🙄🙄this land of blacks what you mean?? Khoisans are black and land that was discovered by Bantu didnt hve nobody. So your point?? Invalid.
While that is being done whites don't own shit of land.
@@lwazimorris4973 khoisan are black yet we don't benefit from policies meant for black people like BBBEE and 51% black own3d companies stop lying to yourself us Khoisan are only black when u need votes when we need land then we are classified coloureds...KhoiSan are not Black we are Africans unless the aboriginals who are Black in Australia are African whice they are not...just coz Bantu conquered us KhoiSan doesn't mean we are now Black,we are not White and not Black stop assimilating us into ur Bantu tribes we are not decendants of Bantus like you...KhoiSan are not black we Africans your 1 drop in the bucket rule that Applies in USA doesn't apply here,in America if u look black then u are black denying ur native identity for the sake of a fake black unity ...you can do better urself bcoz if we KhoiSan were black then we'd also have our languages(Khoekhoegowab & |Nu) official like the black people's languages(isizulu,isixhosa,venda etc) KhoiSan are not Black we're Africans who were conquered and defeated by Black people before the White people conquered both of us...We are not Black we are African and to be African does not mean to be black lol us KhoiSan decendants are proof of that we were found here by you Bantus and them Europeans,Brown skinned Africans who are now being told we are Black to accomodate you Bantus taking land from our ancestral lands...the Europeans tried to segregate us meanwhile you Bantus are trying to Assimilate us like how Shaka Zulu did with the tribes he conquered...we are not your subjects who have to assimilate into ur tribe to assist with ur land grabs...Bantus are not Brown but are Africans and KhoiSan are not Black but are Africans...leave ur Shaka Zulu assimilation tacticts for another day we will not be told who we are by the same people creating policies trying to discredit and delegitimize us Brown Africans from our own land...
@@lwazimorris4973 you just can't accept the fact that bantus weren't here so early ago it was the Khoekhoe and San,just coz u say the Khoekhoe and San are black doesn't make us bantus hahahaha even Jan Van Riebeeck that colonizer wrote down that he only saw Khoikhoi not bantus until he reached the fish river where there he only found AmaXhosa...your point ain't only invalid it's biased
@@lwazimorris4973 KhoiSan are not Black we're Africans with predominantly Brown or Gold skin whereas Bantus are Africans with predominantly Darker skin or Black skin...next time say KhoiSan are Africans not Black...great insult calling us Black yet the resources and jobs and opportunities only goes to Black(Bantu) people not us Brown people who you claim to be black...
The Koisan were not the "same" group - they were related, but the San (Bushmen - as some prefer to be called) were in South Africa for thousands of years - at least 40 000 years and probably their ancestors were in South Africa for hundreds of thousands of years. The Khoikhoi were San relatives from East Africa that were partially descended from Middle Eastern people who introduced cattle and sheep to them. The KhoiKhoi then moved south to South Africa before the Iron Age Bantu migrations moved into the northern and eastern parts of South Africa.
Your pronunciations are not too bad compared to some American videos on the subject. I would point out that Lesotho is pronounced - le-soo-too, and is not shown on the maps in the cartoon.
Also - it was mentioned that the Zulus were in the north-east of Africa when they were actually in the east of South Africa.
The Khoisan migrated because of Bantu genocide
Nobody was here when the ships arrived. They made up evolution, because Satan told them too. This fight was always evil vs good. Christians fled from persecution and settled on new uninhabited land. Satan sends in his agents to destroy Christianity all over the world. The persecution of the Christians remains. Evolution is a made up lie to wipe true believers out.
@@jesuschristthelordandsavio3384 Kook.
"Why is a country down there, being invaded by a country up there?"
Perhaps they got lost on the way to the bathroom?
It happens I guess...
So if the Khoisan came in 0BC into the area, who was there when in 600BC Pharaoh Neeko sent the Phoenicians to circumnavigate Africa in their 3 yr journey, including a year long settlement in South Africa to resupply/grow crops?
But Hilbert - and others - say the Khoisan came into the Cape area around the year 0? I know there were people way before - but did a catastrophe or something kill them off so the Khoisan could come in?
Piet Retief was betrayed by dingane. Dingane had signaled a negociation for a truce, but told the boere to leave their guns outside in the name of piece. When the boers then made their way into the tent at the time, rhey were sprung by a bunch of spear wielding zulus who quickly killed them.
we're taking back our land
Muziwakhe Skhosana the only thing you can take is offense. Victim mentality is what you're heads been indoctrinated with. Here's a TH-cam challenge... Maybe try to think for yourself rather than regurgitating nonsense. We are all part of the same body. Some just choose to be the anus and then they spew shit everywhere. It's OK. Through education we will train the anus not to shit himself the whole time.
Okay lad.
Kaanu coetzee what most people are not told is that the British had visited Dingane before Piet Retief went to the meeting, makes me wonder what bs they told Dingane that he reacted like that.
Tamas Gyori Honestly, I'm not surprised. The British used pretty brutal scorched earth tactics to win the Anglo-boer war.
Someone said Carolingians, but what about the Geruflings? Would be great to have some history videos on the medieval Dutch in general.5
Er komen meer filmpjes over de Nederlanden in de Middel eeuwen, maak je geen zorgen ;)
Geweldig, ga zo door met die kekke filmpjes van je!
Nice nederlandse geschiedenis is vaal redelijk onbekent voor mensen
Turns out no one stole any land from Bantus, shocking
I never did any of that, I was born during the late 90s on land within the European union. My family have been in Africa ever sence the 40s and we aren't going anywhere bicth :P Europeans have been in Africa sence the Antiquity and we aint going anywhere! Dutch Entered the Cape Province before Bantus ever did idiot, learn history or won't you low IQ Allow it. Besides Mexico was created by Spanjards, Spanjards are European so I guess you wannna thow out all Mexcians out of Mexico and force them back to Europe? NO! Europeans CREATED United States, Mexico, South Africa, Namibia, Austalia and a lot more. I fyou wanna live in a naiton created by Europeans, respect Europeans or gtfo :P Have you even been to afirca?
JWille Series - We are taking the land back whether you like it or not and your insults do not offend us, to be honest. Show us 1 European country where non-whites own more than whites. Name just one!
We never asked for any of this generosity. Why do you guys care so much about us? We are happy to starve, we are happy to have no civilisation, we are happy to have no farms, we are happy to wear animal skin. Why do European Dutch decedents feel obliged to help Africans in Africa?
Thank you my brother you know what you talking about
Malifan
Okay Malifan, 1st thing...throw away your phone and computer
Dude, from me as an Afrikaans-speaking individual- your Afrikaans/Dutch is on point! Great content as well. Well done.
Well, he is Dutch if I remember.
Awesome video. Try putting music that is context-related. Like Maskandi instead of classical music.
"Ons dink nie so nie, Khaki". Briljant! Thank you for being this accurate. As an Afrikaner, this is wonderful.
This is INCOMPLETE.
The europeans first came into contact with the Xhosa people...and they fought 100-year-long wars called THE FRONTIER WARS. These wars were from 1778 to 1878, after which the Zulu wars started in 1879.... Actually I think it was the BRITISH who fought with the Xhosas...Remember the Xhosas were and are the southernmost Niger-Congo peoples in South Africa, and therefore they had to defeat the Xhosas before proceeding to the Zulus.
Sandile Meshaki Tukani
No, the first people Europeans made contact with here were the Khoi. When Dias' expedition landed in modern Mossel Bay looking for fresh water Attaqua Khoi threw rocks at them, Dias personally shot one with a crossbow. The VOC founded Cape Town, the Xhosa never settled west of the Great Fish River, as the colony expanded eastwards and added the Graaff-Reinet district local vryburger settlers started sending pleas for help to the Tembu chiefs against the Bushmen burning down their farms in exchange for land and cattle, because the Cape's Political Council didn't care about far away problems and didn't want to antagonise the Bushmen and Xhosa into an expensive war. Companies are interested in making profit not war. This eastward expansion and Tembu westward expansion erupted into clashes with the Xhosa, these 'Boere' having formed kommandos (the same system they took northward) to combat the San. Of the nine Xhosa wars, two were between these VOC vryburgers/Trekboere/Boere (and reluctantly the VOC's Cape Political Council) and the Xhosa. The British fought seven border wars against the Xhosa.
XD that Accent plus Zulu though XD I nearly died. I am South African so yeah... that was great
I am married to a Xhosa woman named Lihle and she told me about the Khoisan people and she pronounces it that way according to my newish ears. Xhosa and Zulu are very close languages but the cultures are a bit different. She was super happy to watch Black Panther in theaters with me in Tennessee and they were speaking her language when they didn't speak English. She said Chad Boseman and the cast did a great job. Many of the cast were South African already but there were lots of Americans. Rest in peace Chad.
I think she was being generous with the none South African actors in that movie. Their pronunciation was barely adequate and a bit awful at times. I'm Xhosa as well so I know.
A lot of people in my high school here in South Africa disliked the film for using Xhosa instead of other South African languages like Sotho and Zulu and disliked it when the teacher brought up the offer to watch the film in class with them calling it an white American view/version of Africans and African languages.
My man, how do you found capetown.. please explain
Hilbert, this is sooo accurate. thank you very much for bringing the truth of South African history to the fore. keep up with the good work
South Africa is fascinating. I'd kill to go there one day! It's so interesting how all the different cultures and languages live side by side
🇿🇦 ✨ It's a vibe 😊👌🎶🇿🇦
Sad to see what’s happening to the Afrikaners today.
Got a video come out about that soon
History With Hilbert nice one bud, looking forward to it
8 never understood this, afrikaaners are the most well off people in the country, they deal with a lot of hate but nothing will ever really materialize into a full on genocide, hell, theres barely any crimes against whites on ethnic reasons, they are victimized for the same reason other Black's are - greed.
Unintelligent Comment Terrorist “barely any crimes against whites on ethnic reasons”. Thousands of attacks on boer farmers that included mutilations of children, rape and brutal slaughter. A law that was past with over 80 percent in the parliament that allows the lands of white farmers to be taken with no reason or compensation. And actual threats made by politicians against the boers that they should be worried about violence, along with them singing “kill the boer”. No guess that’s all made up.
Sunguluez456 that is NOT an ethnic reason, farms are large isolated yet rich plots of land which are acres away from their nearest neighbour's and 100s away from the nearest police station. It doesn't take much common sense for a thief to think of it as the best possible place to rob. Hell, there are more whites in suburban areas yet most of the crime is focused on majority black areas.
Hilbert, you should look into reading The Seed is Mine: The Life of Kas Maine, a South African Sharecropper 1894-1985, by Charles van Onselen. It is really a key document to South African rural history, not only when it comes to black history but in understanding the social and transformative dynamics that has shaped and scarred South Africa.
Hilbert: extends it to 10 mins,
TH-cam: DEMONITIZZZED!!!
Let` s dive into this!! Thank you for the hard work chap!
You’re very welcome
This half-baked His-story is void of important facts and as such advances the false narrative that European settlers never occupied South Africa but merely "discovered" and founded it.
1. You fail to mention that in 1487 Bartholomew Dias was was first to land on Southern Africa (Namibia), and that when he tried stealing fresh water in an area near what's now called Mossels Bay he and his men were resisted by the Khoisan and had to flee. Vasco's voyage was a second voyage to Southern Africa. Like his predecessor, in 1497 he too had a fallout with the Khoisan about fresh water and he and his men again had to flee. Again in 1510 Francisco de Almeida and 200 armed soldiers tried to occupy South Africa after their attempt to steal cattle from the Khoisan failed, but again they were overwhelmed by the Khoisan and some 80 armed men died in the hands of the Khoisan who were armed with spears, bows and stones. The point Im trying to make here is that the false narrative that settlers were only resisted inland by a mighty nguni leader is false. Secondly, the idea that the so called "Bantu's" invaded the Khoisan and displaced them is also wrong.The Khoisan were not a simple nation of gatherers they were a strong nation with military might and a sense of territorial ownership. The truth is that they co-existed and inter-married with what you call the "Bantus".
2. Your presentation makes no mention of the fact that in 1952 Jan Van Riebeeck who was briefed about the failed previous attempts by the Portuguese, came with three ships; massacred the Khoisan Resistance and turned some nguni men and some Khoisan into slaves to work the land. He even ordered the VOC to supply him with slaves from the Portuguese (who had stolen them from local Nguni chieftains inland and Asia) since the Khoisan were small in stature and were not good slaves. The raiding of small so called "Bantu" Chieftains is what ultimately led to the rise of what is called the "Zulu Kingdom". The important point to note here is that there is no way "Bantu's" could have invaded the Khoisan, they lived in small clans and were as a result vulnerable to slave traders and could not resist them as the Khoisan did. It was only post the multiple raids of Nguni Chieftains by Europeans that they began mobilizing and uniting to form the Mighty Zulu Kingdom and by then European threat had already started spreading inland having already overwhelmed the Khoisan.
mohlomphehi, so are you saying small groups of a few men with cattle and mostly women and children and livestock armed with muskets displaced and murdered masses of black tribes and destroyed wakanda? What pipe are you smoking? Also, how shit are your tribes if a bunch of homesteaders can displace them. You're living a very false narrative. Your tribes - if they're even your tribes because you probably are descended from people north of SA who came to SA during apartheid due to the better living conditions under 'white rule' - were annihilated in the difaqane by the Zulus. Fact.
I am waiting for the German marching song erika in afrikaans
You might have to wait a long time then haha
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PAvel Solochiny it's not available in my country
Haha we in South Africa get a warning that it's been flagged by the community as offensive. Dit pas beslis nie in by my musiek smaak nie.
true where is the German element?
This was a really good video Hilbert and thank you for it. It was however only 10 minutes long and obviously didnt cover everything. It's also unfortunate that the only deaths that were mentioned were black on black, since some South Africans in the comment section are out here using this ONE video as leverage to back up their views on the issues of land we are currently facing. Our country honestly needs to grow tf up
Can the world please start to see how necessary apartheid was? And still is
FINALLY SOMEONE IS TELLING THE REAL RSA HISTORY
Not that apartheid myth stating blacks are here from the 1600 how is that possible ... lol
@@andilecliffsibeko8711
The Bantu speakers were spreading in the Cape Colony only in 1600s. I believe that when people say "black were there as long as whites", they don't talk about SA in modern borders, but about Cape Colony as it was several centuries ago
@@KateeAngel The is lots of archeological proof debunking that skewed history and lots of iron tools and furnaces are proof that the Bantu have been in South Africa for over 2000 years.... The Xhosa and Tswana are a hybrid of the Bantu,Khoikhoi and San , The Xhosa language consists of the Khoe and San languages which proves that they have been here long and proof of intermarriage between tribes !!
@@andilecliffsibeko8711 Yes, but the Xhosa didn't administer or settle as far west as Cape Town or even Swellendam. It was more fertile in the Eastern Cape, there was no reason to go west. The Western Cape isn't even such a nice place, it only got settled because of Table Bay's natural harbor.
@@wolfieinu I know only the San and Khoikhoi settled in the Cape... I was only stating that the local Bantu groups did not kill off the San as they are mixed that's why South Africans are lighter than our other African brothers and Sisters !!
The British banned our language and taxed us to death. But we persevered, worked hard, and carry no grudge. Only intelligent people can do that.
Really good video! I struggled so much to find a video that wasn't super political or one sided on this topic. Keep it up. :)
dude south african history did not start when the white people arrived, are you telling us africa dont have a history outside colonialism ?
I am watching this cause I don’t want to study
Hilbert i ve read the british demands in the past, i think i forgotten how outrageous they were. Scones national dish and mouth hygiene prohibition! Tea and cricket xD man love this, jokes are very good for releasing some tension, nice.
The history of South Africa as written by the settlers.
Flowz Flowz, yes because they were actually there. There is no history of South Africa penned by the people who weren't there.......because they weren't there!
@LIVE LIFE a person was not raped simply because they claim they were. That is in fact bull crap.
I missed your videos, especially when the reference to the Dutch kicks in and then the music and anthem start... Brilliant!
South Africa is probably the most interesting European colony and state in Africa, and I always really liked the Boers, I just think it's a shame that their history and legacy are being trampled upon in today's society.
bob marleey 1) Bantus are just as native to south Africa as the Boers. If you want them gone, you got to get rid of the Bantu invaders as well
2) Despite the humanitarian issues, Zimbabwe was better off under European rule.
Stanley Dougé just because a Welsh man is from Europe does not mean he is "native" to Greece. If he moved to Greece and his descendants continue to live there, then Greece becomes their homeland. This is the same with South Africa. My statement on Bantus being just as native as Boers still stands, because Boers began to colonize the nearly unpopulated south around the same time Bantus conquered their way from the north.
The Keksadler the boers are evil. Nothing good about them.
thear can not be ANY discussion about south Africa without some one saying the whites must go and the blacks own evy thing since thy are black. No on ever want's to move on and learn from the past and thus is prone to repeat it every Time.
I as a white South African want to move on and build from the past not repeat it the world or in this case south africa is plenty big for every one. I want my son to have a Boer history as mutch as the zulu his son's . BUT.
Stop blaming whites and blacks and get the one's pulling the strings out Killing South Africa regardless of Race FFS its 2018 are we ever gona grow up or keep on being 5 year olds saying he stole my ball i must steal his whatever or he hit me i must kill him. FFS i know it is not a 123 now its done but can we atlest head in a direction stop standing on one place saying the same things and throwing stones or are we gona start accepting one another. I know this is a Empty prayer for peace to prosper but i have hope.
Well I live in Singapore where there are basically no ethnic tensions and the way the government achieves this is: stop talking about it, a very large program of tolerance and making a nation-wide Singaporean identity. This means politics very rarely talks about race as a defining feature of a politician.
Do you think this method could work in SA given enough time.
NarsandOrin Preach man. Toleration, with defined rights and dignity for all. Best wishes from Greece!
SuperSmashyfication Boers don't belong in Africa at all! Whites like this geography game about who does or doesn't belong in South Africa based on origin! But they came from Europe; so they don't belong on the continent at all!
Africa for Africans! Africans First!
Africa for Africans. Go back to Europe
earaza I agree! And we stop selling resources to you, slowing the growth of your economy! Is that a deal?
(The Mission: to deliver Africans from european oppression and slavery!)
Africa for Africans! Africans First!
I'm from Spain and I just took a DNA test and I have 0,50% South African ancestry. That's why I am here.
Hey can you help me.. I just wanna know when you mean Bantu people where discovered 300 years later.. by who?
mpendulo tembe, probably the British.
It’s interesting hearing a white man attempting the click in “Xhosa” most don’t even try, props eh?
Since I know Xhosa people I can attest his pronunciation is spot on.
@@muppet50yago36 I am Xhosa, Uthethi kaka
No foreskin equals no Paradise.
Thanks so much for this - the world needs to know this history, because the ANC's approach to history - and especially the EFF's approach is very much 1984ish Orwellian.
Oh, we have *every* business in Africa. The Afrikaner is fully indigenous in Africa - we have no European home, as we formed into a distinct nation on African soil. And your racism is not a valid argument. Bet you didn't watch the video. Bet you're African-American.
you have no business here, go back to jamaica man
You are the foreigner. You live somewhere in the America's and Africa is some racist ideological symbol to you. For me, this is a real place, this is my home, my entire life is here, I have no where else to go. I am the African, you are not.
I love the fact that me, being a white indigenous African native to this land, is getting under your skin. Yes, your ancestors might be from Ghana, but they were your ANCESTORS. You, on the other hand, is an American - who probably never set foot on the African continent in your life. You are nothing of Africa, just like I am nothing of Europe. In fact, it is very likely that very empire of Ghana that sold your ancestors to the slave trade that took them to America. Stop living in the past and get with the times.
Fun fact: Did you know that Wakanda is not Africa, and it is actually a fictional place that does not, and has never existed?
You've got ...... "properties" in Ghana? Is that all? If you lived in Africa, you would've just said so. Instead, you have "properties in Ghana". So, if you love Africa so much, how come you not _live_ on those "properties" on a permanent basis? Hmmm? Have you gotten too spoiled with the luxurious lifestyle there in America?
And no, I didn't come here on a boat, I was *born* here, and you were not. That is the end of the discussion: I'm African and you're not. What happened a ka-zillion years ago with your ancestors are irrelevant. You are not your ancestors, you are you.
Also, South Africa's history is not the same as Africa's history. The Dutch is not just another colonial power who divided Africa up in 1885. We were indigenous to Africa long before Europe had any serious interests in Africa, long before 1885. As much as that spoils your simplistic narrative, that is the truth, and you denying it will not change anything.
"But I believe that you are not. You're European." - what you believe is irrelevent. Only what is true is relevant.
" Your skin is pale." - which would make you a racist and a bigot.
" And my ancestors were slaves to white people." - And lets not forget who sold your ancestors to the slave trades: Black Africans. Lets not forget who ended the slave trade: White Europeans. Lets not forget who still trade in black slaves even today: African Arabs. Ouch - but I suppose that is all to complex for your simple mind to grasp.
"Only black people are indigenous to sub-Saharan Africa" - well, actually, you're wrong again. If you want to talk about the first indigenous people of Southern Africa, that would be the Khoi-San hunter gatherers. They're not black, but pale skinned. And guess who took their land away from them apart from the White settlers from the South? The Black settlers from the North. That's right: Blacks are no less and no more indigenous to South Africa than Whites. In fact, whites have been in the Cape for 100 years before we ever came across the first black person. Doh. There goes your simplistic ideology down the drain. Oops.
" 3 million white people in South Africa 50 million blacks" - So much for the claim that we have committed genocide then.
"You're going to be subjugated for the rest of your existence on that continent," - Watch this space.
" you will never run azania again!" - You can call a rose by any name, as long as it smells the same. South Africa is my home, regardless of what it's called.
This is so well made, please remake our history textbooks.
Is there a follow up video to this? 1879 to present?
After watching this video, it makes me want to learn about the German middle Africa or the French held Africa.
Looks at map in 0:24, I didn't know that Swaziland was a part of South Africa.
I never knew that Lesotho was part of South Africa anyway.
Hi History with Hilbert. Can you recommend books I could read to further my understanding of South African history from the interaction between Bantu and Khiosan all the way to just before apartheid. Thank you so much for this video it has shed so much light. Thank you!
i knew the comments here were going to be awful, as South Africa, i expected nothing less than racist comments and black south africans angrily wanting to be heard. i hope our country will one day resolve its issues. racism and anger only fuels more hatred and separation. we need to do better.
However the famous ones for South Africa were of course the Du-
WILHELMUS VAN NASSOUWE BEN IK VAD DUITSEN BLOED
Save the boer
Nah we good
The Boer should be allowed Asylum in Canada, UK, Netherlands, USA, Australia, etc. Wherever they want to go. Give the land to the Africans, move on. Is a farm worth your life? If so your life has little value or you are blinded by greed. Surely a group of whites didn't think it was gonna work out in the long run? You are surrounded by hostiles. The Boer should be happy they haven't already been wiped out. I'm not saying any of this is justified, but human nature shows a pattern and no race has room to criticize. There are plenty of places in the west that want farmers. Cut your loses, pack up, move. If you don't, well. Don't expect a war to break out to save your asses in a time of high war fatigue.
G E K O L O N I S E E R D
great video, highly appreciated come from a real modern day Zulu
The Afrikaans and Dutch in the episode is really good and extremely funny, my wife and I laughed so hard. Good and accurate history.
3:03 r/cirkeltrek intensifies
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Studio Massa
Us bushman arrived 500,000 years ago coming from Ethiopia.
The San where actually the first people in South Africa they arrived there about 1800 B.C the KhoiKhoi first came to South Africa about 250 B.C but if people from the two different groups got married then it would be Khoisan
i just watch your vids for 3:02 :D
As good a reason as any
History With Hilbert yeah ^^
History With Hilbert and it is a great vid
It's the best part.
It’s fantastic how you managed to completely ignore the Boers love of slavery and that it was the reason for the great trek. Lol.
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Then explain to us why the large estate owning, slaveholding Cape Dutch and merchant class stayed in the Cape once the U.K. Parliament abolish slavery in 1834? By the way during VOC rule most slaves were owned by the Company itself. I have explained to you before that Trekboere (later Boere) didn't own slaves as a frontier farm in a dry area doesn't lend itself to it. One does not need slaves to keep sheep, cattle or crow foodcrops. You realise that the VOC as a profit venture kept excellent records? This was an expansion to the northeast where we receive the most rainfall and productive land. And the two largest and most prominent Boer Republics both prohibited slavery in their constitutions. You seem hellbent on perpetuating myths.
He had the gaul to say that they offered to buy the land .
Dutch East India Company was owned by Christian Jews , Google it . They had ships specially for the slave trade to America as well.
The Boers were mainly from the Brabant region of Flaandre and Friesland as well as French and German .
No Virgin Mary.
I would like you to do a video on east Africa, because as a Somali person, people forget that we were never slaves, the Portuguese attacked us and we drove them out, some of them even settled in north of Somalia, that’s why we the Barao tribe who are look light skin.
Very, very good video mate. And your pronunciation is pretty spot on as well.
Ek love jou Afrikaans in die video, Brilliant history video, welldone!🙌❤
Clicking sounds?
*cue ptsd knuckles meme flashback*
' They were divided into two groups: the Khoikhoi and the Khoikhoi, but they are essentially the same " 😀
Can anyone tell me where I can find the video where he links this history to current events and politics? I don't seem to be able to find it on his channel.