Who Were the Ape Men of Appalachia?

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  • @TheLoreLodge
    @TheLoreLodge  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +74

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    • @nobody.important971
      @nobody.important971 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

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    • @lesa2094
      @lesa2094 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

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    • @darealguy8841
      @darealguy8841 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      big L

    • @houseadams4841
      @houseadams4841 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Gotta keep working on your Frank…

    • @BxBxProductions
      @BxBxProductions 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      the lead up to that ad was the trippiest 😅

  • @JE4-1
    @JE4-1 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +620

    I grew up in the mountains and was terrified of this dude when I was a kid. He was my boogeyman. Now I listen to his story while I drift to sleep. Love it!

    • @Farm_Emo
      @Farm_Emo 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +138

      I didn't think Aiden was that scary.

    • @benpyke-rn6xx
      @benpyke-rn6xx 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      @@Farm_Emolol

    • @HorusHawks
      @HorusHawks 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +41

      I live in Chattanooga, TN and was born in a tiny town called Rossville, GA…it shares a border with Chatt. The town in GA is named for Chief John Ross because he lived there and his house still stands in the middle of town. He was chief of the Cherokee, and Chattanooga has incorporated his legacy into many aspects of the town, including our riverfront park named Ross’ Landing. My grandfather looked full blooded Cherokee, he got it from his grandmother, Mourning Dove. When he settled in Chatt after the war, it was only natural he would build a house on Lookout Mountain, in the middle of the woods. There was a trail from his house to the waterfall just up the hill, and if you were agile, you could follow the creek to the top of the mountain. I roamed all over the mountain as a kid (I can’t imagine a world where I’d ever let my son even go to the waterfall by himself!). Anytime I went into the woods, he’d stop me and tell me to use my eyes and ears. He never said Bigfoot, he just would say that I was safe because we were surrounded by civilization up there, but he said to still be safe. I was obsessed with cryptids growing up, so I would press him about it regularly. He ALWAYS told me his stories…he hated opossums because he was trying to retrieve one from under a tub and it attacked him, leaving a scar on his ankle 60 years later. When his favorite dog came home and died because something in the woods ripped his throat to the point all he could do was come home and die. Junior was a great dog! But when it happened, I heard him mutter, “He gotcha, boy. I’m so sorry”, and then he wrapped him in a blanket and sat in the driveway and held him. Two days later I finally asked him who “He” was. He said, “I don’t think the Cherokee has a name for him, but my grandma said they called him Tsul 'Kalu. I think they meant what they’re calling Bigfoot now. They respected him, but feared him. She said she thought they even used to trade with them by leaving a dressed deer in the woods, and then they’d return and find one of several different things, like a pile of fish or wood that had been busted up to where they could easily tote it back. I don’t know, but I grew up fearing him.” I asked if he ever saw one, and he said no, but regularly if they were deep in the woods, hunting, and they strayed too far into areas they didn’t normally frequent, rocks bigger than they could lift would crash through the trees. Not close to them, but always to the sides. He figured they were warning them off. And he told me another story about finding a full grown hog, slaughtered, missing its back legs, that was thrown on top of the barn. He said they were pretty nonplussed about it because they knew what happened. So I also grew up with your fear of something in the woods, @dko61. Sorry for the wall of text, I didn’t realize when I started typing, that I had this much bouncing around in my head, lol.

    • @shawn1364
      @shawn1364 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      I thought he was talking about Danny Devito from the opening.

    • @zeus2213
      @zeus2213 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Damn you ​@Farm_Emo !!! You stole my joke

  • @T3nch1
    @T3nch1 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +535

    Lore Lodge: "The Wendigo may, depending on the story, also be a giant."
    Wendigoon: *G I A N T ?*

    • @moriahmelon
      @moriahmelon 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      where can i watch the giant video everyone speaks of 😭😭

    • @whiskeymarie9560
      @whiskeymarie9560 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      @@moriahmelonI think it's just a running joke from a Bible video where they mention giants but now it comes up whenever he sees the word giants 😂

    • @x-xPhobia
      @x-xPhobia 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      ​@@moriahmelon I wish he had one but i think because the belief is most likely that angels came to earth and bred with humans and those were the giants, he cant make a fully serious video on it lol. Its kind of like the christian version of believing in aliens.

    • @ssokolow
      @ssokolow 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      @@x-xPhobia ...and, funny enough, it's a biblical retcon so old that most people don't know it's a retcon. TREY the Explainer has a video on the nephilim which goes into how we've managed to recover scraps of ancient biblical texts that show that, back in the days when Judaism was monolatric (Multiple gods exist, but we only workship one), "nephilim" was how they fitted demigods like Hercules/Herakles into their belief system and "elohim" really WAS a plural ("In the beginning, the gods created the heavens and the earth").

    • @bananashoplifter3440
      @bananashoplifter3440 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He has kind eyes!

  • @tinymoonraccoon2908
    @tinymoonraccoon2908 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +170

    I know this will probably be lost in all the comments, but the story that's mentioned around the 17:00 mark about the boy being kidnapped by a wendigo, has a Norwegian equivalent! Except the boy in the Norwegian folktale is kidnapped by visually impaired trolls and fools them by making them slice an iron nail instead of his finger until he is ready to escape. It's probably not super interesting, but it's always fascinating to see what sort of tropes different cultures have in common. Anyways, great video!

    • @fynnwhite
      @fynnwhite 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      That reminds me of Hänsel and Gretel. Their father abandons them in the woods where they discover a house made of gingerbread. They eat some of the house and the witch living there catches them. She makes Gretel a maidservant, and places Hänsel in a cage to fatten and eat him. She checks his weight by feeling his finger too, and he too tricks her, but he uses a little bone Gretel gave him. When the witch gets furious and wants to eat him either way, they trick her, then push her into the oven, burning her to death. Hänsel and Gretel live happily ever after in their gingerbread house.

    • @katherinecarpenter4677
      @katherinecarpenter4677 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@fynnwhiteremember this well! Being 63 this was a well known story from my childhood. Shame it's not shared these days!

  • @DFAMPODCAST
    @DFAMPODCAST 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +252

    I grew up in North Carolina in the Appalachian Mountains. My neighbor was in his 70s and had a great story about his camp being stalked by a Wild Man. It freaked us all out and when we went camping we always ALWAYS set "traps" for them. By traps I mean sticks tied to cans.... we were kids lol.

    • @TheRealRusDaddy
      @TheRealRusDaddy 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      The string and cans is a time tested classic at the least it gives you time to react or will just scare whatevers too close off

  • @Revolver1701
    @Revolver1701 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +264

    She said, “The cave was very nice but I just didn’t like the granite countertops.”

    • @LOGOS_Official
      @LOGOS_Official 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

      Man been unable to please women since Adam and Eve.

    • @Revolver1701
      @Revolver1701 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@LOGOS_Official yep. 🤣

    • @loganwalters5613
      @loganwalters5613 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Lol! Both of yalls comments are gold 😂

    • @jeffseidl
      @jeffseidl 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      So, she painted them charcoal.

    • @Quincy_Morris
      @Quincy_Morris 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Often people take things for granite

  • @Bardes82
    @Bardes82 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +116

    I'm Ojibwe and what I was always told is that the wendigo will grow as big as his appetite, meaning that it grows bigger with every meal.

    • @nouse4aname_
      @nouse4aname_ 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      WOW!! OJIBWE people are gorgeous!

    • @Bardes82
      @Bardes82 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@nouse4aname_ Thank you so much!

    • @nouse4aname_
      @nouse4aname_ 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Bardes82 You're quite welcome, just speaking the truth. I am a 1/4 Cherokee. I'm from the southeast United States. What part are you and your people from?

  • @dragonproductions236
    @dragonproductions236 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +316

    "A spiritual being, that shoots poison arrows" Well that's scarier than most poltergeists.

    • @clayxros576
      @clayxros576 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      This sounds like the work....OF AN ENEMY STAND!

    • @Hasuklakle
      @Hasuklakle 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      At least you can’t say it leaves its actions up to interpretation.

    • @francinesmith1889
      @francinesmith1889 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Machiavellian

    • @grzexd
      @grzexd 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@francinesmith1889i dont think you know what that word means

    • @mr.pissshivers
      @mr.pissshivers 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@francinesmith1889
      This is about the dumbest response I've seen in a while

  • @mkaylor121
    @mkaylor121 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +105

    I live on the yurok Rez. In Klamath glen. We actually have a Bigfoot grave in our town site

    • @TheLoreLodge
      @TheLoreLodge  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +54

      Please explain more

    • @Ali_D_Katt
      @Ali_D_Katt 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@TheLoreLodge right that seems like something that would be intriguing to see

    • @OnceUponReddit
      @OnceUponReddit 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      ​@@TheLoreLodgeIt's pronounced 'yer-rock'

    • @love4allization
      @love4allization 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      😮

    • @Chaossidy-117
      @Chaossidy-117 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Tell us some more about it, please.

  • @Vyxin
    @Vyxin 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +55

    "Nom Nom, some Wagyu kids." Probably one of my favorite lines so far. 😂😂

  • @DUKEHadToDoItToEm
    @DUKEHadToDoItToEm 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +346

    Englishmen looking at Natives: "Savages, I can't believe they live this way"
    Natives looking at bigfoots: "Savages, can't believe they live this way"

    • @artpsych71
      @artpsych71 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      I was thinking the same. 😂

    • @lakesidesusan6745
      @lakesidesusan6745 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      😄😄😄

    • @AlexanderCheff
      @AlexanderCheff 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      Bigfoot: I have returned to Monke

    • @marcopohl4875
      @marcopohl4875 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

      Bigfoot looking at Englishmen: "Savages, I can't believe they live this way"

    • @lindasue8719
      @lindasue8719 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@marcopohl4875 👍🏼 🏆

  • @stevenlwills
    @stevenlwills 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +60

    You should check out the japanese legend of "namahage" ogres and how much it has in common with these native american legends. Love the channel, keep it up!

    • @MichaelMassie
      @MichaelMassie 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Like the Manx buggane as well.

    • @DneilB007
      @DneilB007 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      Another example would be the English wood-wose. There are many tales about a group of “Wild men of the woods” across the globe that seem to share a common theme. The Wild Men are hairy, primitive, smelly, and are prone to kidnapping women from the “civilized” neighbours. They sometimes have some kind of connection with the liminal world, but they are themselves very much human, or at least mortal.
      Frankly, the likeliest explanation is that they are a cultural memory of other species of humans, like Neanderthals or Denisovans, that has travelled with us from the regions where we both coexisted into every new region we have come to.

  • @willnolan7040
    @willnolan7040 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +88

    A former Boeing employee who was a whistleblower against the company was just found dead from “self inflicted wounds” in his hotel during the week of his legal interviews. Sounds like something up your alley

    • @Zer-db1bp
      @Zer-db1bp 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      He may cover this later on once the case blows over. I don’t think there’s too much info right now on that

    • @mlw5665
      @mlw5665 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@Zer-db1bp how about now that another whistleblower at Boeing has mysteriously ended up dead?

    • @shaggybrown420
      @shaggybrown420 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      It's happened again, so now 2 whistleblowers dead .. Nothing strange there. Lol

    • @85isaboat53
      @85isaboat53 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@shaggybrown420 do you want him killed by Boeing?

    • @Austin-oc3jc
      @Austin-oc3jc 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It's true Boeing killed me

  • @buckdharma9844
    @buckdharma9844 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +75

    Having already seen Trey The Explainer's video on the same topic, I can't wait to see the direction the Lore Lads take

    • @PanzerIVAE
      @PanzerIVAE 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Same here! I'm so fucking excited to see the Lore Lodge's take on it after Trey's video

    • @King_WhiteWolf
      @King_WhiteWolf 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Hey. Thanks for making this comment! It turned me on to Trey's content, which I'd not seen to date.

    • @hermescarraro3393
      @hermescarraro3393 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      What direction did they take?
      The lore lodge I mean
      ...
      Please tell me they said things as they really are

    • @buckdharma9844
      @buckdharma9844 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@hermescarraro3393 They're treating us to individual summaries of each cultural group's stories of giants/hairy men. Trey's video focuses more on debunking the myth of a singular native bigfoot legend while also providing a statistical breakdown of the ways the distinct "bigfoot" entities all manage to not be monke

  • @robynwilde
    @robynwilde 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +94

    My Friday nights have been rough this year and it's been nice to have these videos to look forward to. Some nice murder, mystery, and mayhem to keep me company. 😅

    • @Rick_Cleland
      @Rick_Cleland 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    • @chuyvee505
      @chuyvee505 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Same 💯

    • @manarayofhope2374
      @manarayofhope2374 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Sometimes you must keep keeping on hard has it may be

  • @Honeyrat15
    @Honeyrat15 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

    I grew up in Yurok/Wiyot territory. It's nice to hear about my home area and the entities around it. I've had my share of experiences out there in the redwoods

    • @S.L.O.P.
      @S.L.O.P. 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Is there a Bigfoot/Sasquatch grave there?

  • @nobody.important971
    @nobody.important971 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +47

    You know it's a good day when one of these comes out

  • @wowzer5189
    @wowzer5189 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    13:31
    in the 1500's, edward topsell described a new creature from the america's called the bear ape, this "ape" turned out in modern hindsight to be a three toed sloth, given that sloths are very southwest of that area, it's possible sloths had still been considered a type of ape by many at the time

    • @MrChristianDT
      @MrChristianDT 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      That might be part of the explanation for that word use, but no sloths in Appalachia, so it'd have to be some kind of animals that could be confused for one & I'm at a loss.

  • @greasygod93
    @greasygod93 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    One of the cool things my culture (Plains Cree) has adopted from Saulteaux people is the grandfather teachings. And the grandfather for honesty is represented by a Bigfoot type creature.

  • @CountryRaven54k
    @CountryRaven54k 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    Found your channel not too long ago, been waiting for a more recent video in hopes you’ll see this but your videos are a god send to a working man working long hours!! I appreciate your native history segments, you’ve done your research and are a fun person to listen to. Forever grateful friend, keep it up! :) please… for my sake

  • @ScottFrancis-pd2ec
    @ScottFrancis-pd2ec 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    I have fished the pigeon river in Haywood county NC, which is just east of Cherokee NC and The Qualla Boundary. The peaks rise around the river to 5,000 ft and the river flows NW towards Newport TN where it meets the French Broad River. Keep up the Native American influence. Thanks for providing a factual education on these matters!

    • @timmylakey1259
      @timmylakey1259 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I live fifteen minutes west of Cherokee if u ever want to fish this area we could trade some fishing trips

  • @HorusHawks
    @HorusHawks 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +51

    Okay, you can’t just offhandedly toss out the Mooney reports, and not expect us to scream for, I don’t know, a 2 hour deep dive into this. So DOOOOO EET! (Please?)

  • @amandamacabre
    @amandamacabre 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +98

    These women running off with Indian Devils sound like that era's crunchy mom tbh

    • @LMerci
      @LMerci 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      🤣🤣🤣

    • @Johnniebhoy83
      @Johnniebhoy83 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Lmao

    • @clayxros576
      @clayxros576 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hey, we got monster f*ckers today. Prettly likely theyve always been around.

    • @onemoreloser
      @onemoreloser 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      frrr like you can provide me with comfy buckskin dresses and a fun nature filled childhood for our children? i’m in.

    • @amandamacabre
      @amandamacabre 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@onemoreloser what else could a woman want??

  • @gern7535
    @gern7535 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +71

    Bigfoot claims he once saw Chuck Norris but nobody believes him.

    • @lucasperdue312
      @lucasperdue312 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Bigfoot fears Chuck Norris taking their wives

    • @Trebelsi
      @Trebelsi 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Oh wowwww just wowewwzers ur so intellectual

    • @briandavis4916
      @briandavis4916 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I actually got to meet Chuck Norris during one of my Iraq deployments. I don't wanna brag but I shook his hand and survived 😂

    • @Trebelsi
      @Trebelsi 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@briandavis4916 did u find any wmds or just Christian and Muslim kids

    • @v.kipgen8732
      @v.kipgen8732 หลายเดือนก่อน

      WoMan with D*cks?​ I thought they were anti-trans out there.@@Trebelsi

  • @r.w.bottorff7735
    @r.w.bottorff7735 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    A whole multi-part series just on the first Nations beliefs and concepts about bigfoot? Count me in!

  • @krisbradbury5087
    @krisbradbury5087 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Once again a fantastic video!
    Virtual handshake from an avid watcher from England.
    I find all American history fascinating and found your channel by chance and been soaking up all your videos.
    It is fascinating leaning about all the brilliant stories (and sad ones about the missing people) in your vast and beautiful country.
    We don’t get many stories in England as it’s so small, unless you count next doors cat going feral and being mistaken for a 18ft giant lion for two weeks then everyone realising their mistake when it staggers back home.
    Great videos, will catch all of them!

    • @minecraftfox4384
      @minecraftfox4384 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      My favorite interview from that cat story was the old guy, "it's just a fat f**k of a cat." In a thick ass northern English accent (dunno the name of them all)

  • @ryanhau1073
    @ryanhau1073 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Interestingly, legends of Human-Like Monsters are also pretty common in Europe and Asia, a few examples like Ogres, Trolls, Oni, and a plethora of Giants. So it is possible that European Settles heard these Native American tales of Wildmen and they associate it to the legends they may be familiar with from the Old World. In fact, in modern days Bigfoot tends to be heavily associated with the Yeti from the Himalayas. Also you probably heard about Teddy Roosevelt telling a story about a Bigfoot encounter he heard from someone else, in that story the Bigfoot creature was referred as a Goblin

  • @Toebeeans
    @Toebeeans 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    I smoked a joint and binged you
    New follower, happy to be here 🖤

  • @cmcapps1963
    @cmcapps1963 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +50

    Had to admit I was surprised by your new sponsor. Litigation attorneys...only thing scarier than the Wendigo.

  • @dustybrand
    @dustybrand 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    The Danny Devito voice Aiden does at the start of this video? Yeah. We need more of that. I would be in a state of bliss if I heard him, in that voice say: "Christmas shoppin is for the birds. Next year everybody's getting a bottle of 151 and a luchador mask. Even gramma. Especially gramma".

  • @Lukusprime
    @Lukusprime 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Gotta say, I came here from Wendigoon/the Weird Bible Podcast, so I was *floored* when you casually mentioned getting beat up by Bigfoot. Only when you mentioned needing legal representation did I audibly laugh out loud and say “Okay this is an ad read” 😂 well done, you certainly got me

  • @seti48
    @seti48 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    Reminds me of the story of Devil's Island. A true story. Some prisoners escaped but had no food. So, as one died they ate him. Fast forward. The survivors were recaptured. Two men, one who had previously escaped, got away. The guy who had previously escaped, although not starving, killed and ate his companion. A short time later he was captured. When asked why he ate his pal, he said he got a taste for human flesh. This time, he was executed.

    • @alexsetterington3142
      @alexsetterington3142 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The film Van Diemans Land, based on the account of a prisoner who escaped a penal colony there, follows a group of escapees who can find nothing to eat in the Van Dieman(Tasmanian) wilderness. Starving, they eventually breakdown and eat the first to die. After that they each try to plot and make alliances to avoid being the next meal. Lowish budget and not great but some interesting ideas involved. The original story teller I think was not really believed. I can't remember anything else I'm going to look it up now.

  • @ThatEvilHag
    @ThatEvilHag 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    You guys are the best. The fact that you care to provide the history of regions where crimes happened, and deliver Native American lore, is my favorite part of your channel - and that says a lot, considering I respect your case research more than I can express!

  • @p.phillips291
    @p.phillips291 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Coos Bay people (SW Oregon) mention the giants, nicknamed 'forest people' (nuk'wiinu me in hanis, nuk'wiin də k'a in miluk).

  • @browherenew
    @browherenew 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Hi Aidan! Quick correction (haven’t seen yet in the comments) - Yurok is pronounced “yuhr-OCK” (as opposed to “YOU-rock” which is incorrect). I worked for the tribe and loved my time on rez. I love your videos! Thank you for always honoring the original inhabitants of this land and making time to include Indigenous voices, authors, and stories.

  • @TheBambsBeauty
    @TheBambsBeauty 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    Love the video! Just wanted to say a map in this would've been so cool and I feel like that could apply well to many of your other videos! Could be something cool to think about in the future! Love your videos, keep it up!

  • @91n3tr33
    @91n3tr33 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    That open just made me real happy to be apart of this community. I hope everyone is doing well & loved the video❤

  • @anaba-awendelamcmorris6897
    @anaba-awendelamcmorris6897 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    My mom is Seminole, from Florida, and she told us about how bigfoot would follow her and her brother and sister to school every morning and home in the afternoon. He never would get to close. She said they never felt scared of it. It was like a guardian.

    • @mlw5665
      @mlw5665 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      This is similar to the way he was talked about in my central Appalachian home. Protectors.

  • @justin-os4xp
    @justin-os4xp 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I lived in rural west salem oregon in 2013. My house was up next to a forest. One night around 11pm i was sitting on my porch and all of the sudden what sounded like was huge branch or tree was broke off and then nastiest, deepest growl ive ever heard was directed my way 25ft from the forest. I was stunned..I thought i was imagining it..and then it did the growl again. A bear, mountain lion, dog or human was not capable of this sound. I was so terrified that i went inside and didnt even try to look out the window. I was the biggest skeptic until that moment. From what i gather in my own research from others experiences is that it was a sasquatch trying to intimidate me. It was a truly unbelievable experience to me. No one ever believes in sasquatch until it happens to them. I wish people had more of an open mind to the existence this creature. Truly terrifying though.

    • @markjackson3531
      @markjackson3531 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm going to assume you listened to bear, moose, wolf, etc growls....how was the one you heard, different?

    • @justin-os4xp
      @justin-os4xp 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@markjackson3531 it was like clearly some an animal with huge lungs, direct, and intentional. Like it was definitely a beast. The growl filled the whole area.

  • @andrewthomas7719
    @andrewthomas7719 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Love the always sunny reference! Dr. Mantis Tobagan.

  • @josiaharaki7310
    @josiaharaki7310 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    It's really interesting how much these legends have in common with a lot of western fairy tales.
    The Tale of the "Indian devils" is somewhat reminiscent of Beauty and the Beast, although it also has some striking similarities with part of Tolkien's "The Fall of Gondolin".
    In the latter, Eol, the Dark Elf, kidnaps Aredhel, the sister of Turgon, the king of Gondolin. He marries her and lavishes her with the riches of his private domain, but she misses her home and eventually escapes with her son Maeglin back to Gondolin and the protection of her brother. Eol tracks the two there, however, and tries to take them back by force, although he is quickly captured... It is also noteworthy that the son becomes increasingly like his father, to the point that he is later the one to sell Gondolin out to Morgoth.
    The tale of the Wendigo has a lot of thematic similarities with Hansel and Gretel, where the wendigo is constantly checking to see if the child has fattened up enough to eat.

    • @maryeckel9682
      @maryeckel9682 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      There are also similarities to Cupid and Psyche and to tales of people taken by the faeries.

    • @hollyjollyxmas
      @hollyjollyxmas 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I came to find this comment. I had hoped someone more eloquent than me posted it lol

  • @____________838
    @____________838 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

    That fasting request seems to have been a way to weaken the settlement.

    • @TheLoreLodge
      @TheLoreLodge  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

      I hadn’t considered that earlier, but now that you mention it, yeah that would be a possibility.
      Hey guys, don’t eat for a week and then also don’t call for help.

    • @RaeHadzega
      @RaeHadzega 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Fasting is also used in spiritual ways, often to purify or to induce altered states of consciousness. Perhaps these Sasquatches weren't entirely material beings and not everyone is capable of seeing them without some a ritual preparation.

    • @joeyhoward2669
      @joeyhoward2669 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Don't try to rationalize it by making The story more complicated keep it simple... An upright walking very very large primate in North America That's already pretty fantastic you Don't need to make it any more....

    • @____________838
      @____________838 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@RaeHadzega spiritual fasting is an individual act. There was no rationale for the entire clan to undergo the ritual.

    • @____________838
      @____________838 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@joeyhoward2669 please go on, I’d love to know where you were going with that thought process.

  • @BizmoFunyuns-uj3kr
    @BizmoFunyuns-uj3kr 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +48

    Best lore lodge intro yet

  • @HunterWoodlawn
    @HunterWoodlawn 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Appalachian here from the lands of the Cherokee, excited for this one!

  • @tammyhanlon3057
    @tammyhanlon3057 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    That was great. I have to tell you, well i dont HAVE to tell you, but im going to. I love the history in your lessons(?) stories (?) lectures, but my favorites are when you talk a little civics. Its always a roller coaster. I laugh, frown, clap, cheer and sometimes cuss a bit.
    You even told me off once, which i appreciated. You do read the comments, you are confident and kind. A fine young man. If i were your grandma i would never stop bragging

  • @picklerick8785
    @picklerick8785 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    It should be noted that wrapped up within the "Indian Devils" and the wendigo legend is the absolutely stone cold fact that some Native nations, especially in the Northeastern Woodlands like the Iroquoian Haudenosenee and Algonquian speaking nations, practiced ritual cannibalism in the context of warfare, which would fuel, especially in the early years like in the Strachey account and the 17th century documentation would become confused into "Bigfoot" mythology. In the context of mourning war, the linguistically different Haudenosenee or Wendat warriors became literal "devils" who took women captive and married them and would eat (parts of, not for food but ritually) men. They became temporary wendigos to Algonquians.
    Even to the nations that practiced ritual cannibalism, other native nations were "devils" as this Mohawk describes to James Smith in the 1750s- Also they're hunting Eastern Woodland Buffalo, not the Plains buffalo.
    "...Solomon seemed to be upon his guard, went very slow, and would frequently stand and listen, and appeared to be in suspense. We came to where the tracks were very plain in the sand, and I said it is surely buffaloe tracks ; he said hush, you know nothing , may be buffaloe tracks, may be Catawba. He went very cautious until we found some fresh buffaloe dung: he then smiled and said Catawba can not make so. He then flopped and told me an odd story about the Catawbas. He said that formerly the Catawbas came near one of their hunting camps, and at some distance from the camp lay in ambush, and in order to decoy them out, sent two or three Catawbas in the night, pan: their camp, with buffaloe hoofs fixed on their feet, so as to make artificial tracks. In the morning those in the camp followed after these tracks, thinking they were Buffaloe, until they were fired on by the Catawbas, and several of them killed; the others fled, collected a party and pursued the Catawbas; but they, in their subtly brought with them rattle-snake poison, which they had collected from the bladder that lieth at the root of the snakes' teeth ; this they had corked up in a short piece of cane-stalk ; they had also brought with them small cane or reed, about the size of a rye straw, which they made sharp at the end like a pen, and dipped them in this poison, and stuck them in the ground among the grass, along their own tracks, in such a position that they might stick into the legs of the pursuers, which answered the design ; and as the Catawbas had runners behind to watch the motions of the pursuers, when they found that a number cf them were lame, being artificially snake bit, and that they were all turning back, the Catawbas turned upon the pursuers, and defeated them, and killed and scalped all those that were lame. - When Solomon had finished this story, and found that I understood him, concluded by saying, you don t know, Catawba very bad Indian, Catawba all one Devil Catawba..."
    archive.org/details/accountofremarka00smit/page/22/mode/2up?q=catawba

    • @MrChristianDT
      @MrChristianDT 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I'm trying to find direct references to the cannibalism among the Iroquois & only know about the passage from DeChamplain where his Native allies in the Ticonderoga War force fed human meat to their Iroquois captives as a method of torture.

    • @picklerick8785
      @picklerick8785 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@MrChristianDT Check the digitized versions of the Jesuit Relations as well as the Sir William Johnson papers. There will be loads in there just for starters. There's tons of accounts. Charles Langlade (who was half Odawa) and his warriors ritually ate Memiskia's heart at Pickawillany in 1753. I'll see what I have in my files that are specifically Longhouse.

  • @robynwilde
    @robynwilde 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    That Danny DeVito impression floored me. 🤣

  • @nitiad4564
    @nitiad4564 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    The “MATERIAL WORLD” part startled me.

  • @languidmccheese
    @languidmccheese 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    The appearance of doggo brings joy

  • @joeyhoward2669
    @joeyhoward2669 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Also Davy Crockett tells a tale about killing a Yahoo.. or Yihoo aka wildman AKA Sasquatch

  • @KaeYoss
    @KaeYoss 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    6:20 The Saskettes? Now I want to see their kickline, should be a sight to see with their big feet.

  • @cherylcampbell9369
    @cherylcampbell9369 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I am almost positive that the chief pictured is Wolf Robe, who is Souther Cheyenne, not Cherokee. They didn't geographically overlap, iirc.

    • @TheLoreLodge
      @TheLoreLodge  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Appears to be an editing error

  • @nikki_q.
    @nikki_q. 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    You make this easy for a dumb dumb like me to follow. Love your format and delivery. I'm hooked!

  • @samrobertson7535
    @samrobertson7535 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    You're one of the few creators whose videos I always watch until the very end. Keep up the great work!

  • @OhQueso10291
    @OhQueso10291 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    "Baaaabe, more Bigfoot lore"

  • @AmigoRoberto
    @AmigoRoberto 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Honestly blown away by the level of research. In the year or so I've been watching, the editing, research and delivery has improved so dramatically. Thanks guys

  • @facepillownap
    @facepillownap 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Check out “Edge of the Knife”. A Haida story of a man’s transformation into a Wildman. Excellent depiction of the PNW “wildman” which is centered in realism.
    Definitely not a bigfoot legend but should be required viewing for anyone who wants to discuss the native wild man.

  • @ronlittlejohn8046
    @ronlittlejohn8046 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I come for the lore, I stay for the Morgan & Morgan ads

  • @sarahhannush1466
    @sarahhannush1466 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I grew up only an hour away from Cherokee NC, I always love seeing their stories popping up.

  • @Kitsune_Raven
    @Kitsune_Raven 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The Wendigo legends always creep me out, Great over all video as always Aidan

  • @clayharrison8596
    @clayharrison8596 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I lol’d at Wagyu kids… what’s wrong with me

  • @MatthewGill-nv4tb
    @MatthewGill-nv4tb 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    What you eat affects your odor. Look up the stories from vietnam.

  • @MrCouchIncident
    @MrCouchIncident 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I have that same Smartwool sweater. Oddly enough, I'm wearing it while watching this video. Spooky.

  • @Bones530
    @Bones530 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    That intro was beyond gold

  • @ArtandDiamondsWithEskies
    @ArtandDiamondsWithEskies 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    My knowledge of native Americans comes from my grandfather who was half Cherokee and my dad who was one quarter Cherokee. On top of that I'm from Arizona and so I'm surrounded by native nations and have grown up with quite original of the different cultures.

  • @captmashpea
    @captmashpea 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    The restrictions on the viewing these men remind me of the myth of Cupid and Psyche. She married Cupid but was not able to view him and got punished when she tries to. Really interesting connection.

    • @maryeckel9682
      @maryeckel9682 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I thought of that, too

    • @hollyjollyxmas
      @hollyjollyxmas 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      That’s what I thought too

  • @mkaylor121
    @mkaylor121 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I live in Hawaii for a long time and there are stories of the Polynesian people making it all the way to the Pacific Northwest and their canoes catamarans

    • @jamessutton4204
      @jamessutton4204 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Forgot name of channel but there's a guy who specializes in DNA and native American history and he has found several tribes with Polynesian DNA. He also found Celtics, African, Australian aboriginal, Minoan, Greek, Phoenician, Mongolian, soultran (original inhabitants of Europe before the Indo-European peoples arrived) shit almost forgot the Cherokee whose DNA was bout 70% Hebrew and a different video I saw that's unrelated but this guy on this other video points out that the Cherokee alphabet was exactly the same as the ancient Hebrew alphabet but reversed. It looks like pretty much everyone has left a little DNA in America

    • @thezackast2752
      @thezackast2752 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@jamessutton4204 Probably shouldn't trust that guy with the alphabet stuff. The Cherokee did not have written language until the 1810s to 1820s, when one of their members made an alphabet based on various western characters. I don't know the Hebrew alphabet very well, so there could be some similarity, but it sounds like he's trying to mislead you.

  • @foolsenigma
    @foolsenigma 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

    Jesus christ, the video sponsor integration made me feel like either you or i were having a stroke

    • @djmcmenus5211
      @djmcmenus5211 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      😂😂 SAME!

  • @riacco
    @riacco 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Great video. You are a very educated and talented young man. Your best videos are when you have the ego in check. It is refreshing when you show humility. Sometimes huberous takes over, then the videos are not so enjoyable. Hope this is not offensive, just some unsolicited advice from an old man. Keep up the good work, much appreciated.

  • @arqaeyrima4750
    @arqaeyrima4750 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I grew up in the san juaquin valley as well as in the lake tahoe areas. This monster as well as the predator like thing which was in fact invisible would cast a slight shadow despite its saran wrap like appearance within the Yosemite woods, were both completely terrifying boogey mem for me as a kid. Although im now 48, i still 100% remember the things ive seen, with great clarity. Scary stuff lol. Thanks for the story, it was really great!!!

    • @journeysintotheunknown1152
      @journeysintotheunknown1152 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I also grew up around the Reno Tahoe area and had several encounters with Sasquatch and this predator like being I’ve never met anyone else that’s seen this being before it was the most terrifying experience of my life and I saw it 3 times now

  • @MariahD16
    @MariahD16 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wasn't expecting my tribal group (the Powhatan) to be mentioned in this, but man I was so glad to hear yous talk about us! Amazing video as always, and it's good to know that the Wendigo is a ✨Material Girl✨

    • @katherinecarpenter4677
      @katherinecarpenter4677 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I'm descended from Powhatan also!!! First time I've ever heard of anyone else!!!!

    • @MariahD16
      @MariahD16 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@katherinecarpenter4677 AYYYYYYY! One of my best friends is also descended from the Powhatan tribal group!!!

  • @Thxmby42
    @Thxmby42 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    When Aiden switched over to saying “I got attacked by the Bigfoot” I was so confused and honestly believed him until I realized it was an ad

  • @hiddenwoodsben
    @hiddenwoodsben 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    as a man who has had the displeasure of making an overly strong first impression, i sympathize with tsul kalu greatly.
    I wont talk abut my mother in law, though. because i don't dare to 🤣

  • @XXMatt0040XX
    @XXMatt0040XX 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Pre-Premiere comment: I hope the Roanoke video's referenced. I still don't get why nobody's talked about that

  • @dawsonduke3333
    @dawsonduke3333 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    This might be my new favorite lore lodge intro😂

  • @samygirl3113
    @samygirl3113 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    4:15 Reminds me of the South Park thing where you have a new random dog laying next to you every other scene.

  • @leisl9321
    @leisl9321 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    i misread this title as "the naive american bigfoot"... i thought we were going to learn about bigfoot's blissful ignorance

  • @HubCityMan
    @HubCityMan 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I'm always blown away by the amount of research these youtubers do and how intelligent they are, yet they always get pronunciations wrong. Wiyot is pronounced wee-ot. Cmon lore lodge!

  • @JeffreySchieding
    @JeffreySchieding 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks for your hard work researching for your videos !

  • @Just_some_dude_guy
    @Just_some_dude_guy 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    If a video makes an “allways sunny” reference, it will get my like

  • @Trollificusv2
    @Trollificusv2 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Man, this is well-researched and well-presented. The work involved really shows. New sub.

  • @bowtiegaming0001
    @bowtiegaming0001 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    @31:00 That puts on a whole new meaning to "Would you still love me even if I was a worm?"

  • @Rick_Cleland
    @Rick_Cleland 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +66

    My life has been a complete and total misery ever since Bigfoot stole my precious girlfriend in the middle of the night. 😒 He even took all her clothes and the T.V. 😔

    • @tinkerstrade3553
      @tinkerstrade3553 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      I'll bet he left the bills, though!🤣

    • @Rick_Cleland
      @Rick_Cleland 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@tinkerstrade3553 🥺🥺🥺

    • @Rick_Cleland
      @Rick_Cleland 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@tinkerstrade3553

    • @letsdothis9063
      @letsdothis9063 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      They always take the TV! Last time, me and my wife were saving to buy a house.
      Well...my wife showed back up, but the $30k hasn't been seen since.

  • @josefdettwyler9809
    @josefdettwyler9809 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    The Klamath legend says that yayahyahas is an old man who lives on the mountain who yells his name. He has one leg that is shorter than the other so that he can run better on the mountain keeping his short leg on the uphill side.

  • @cynical_serb6172
    @cynical_serb6172 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My Dad has a camp on the Juanita River and got a book about the Natives from the area. They had a chief they called "The Great One." He was described as irregularly tall and had legs as thick as trees.

  • @stemdeckesupreme164
    @stemdeckesupreme164 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I once saw something in the woods, it had longer jet black hair all over it's body. It was 7 or 8 feet tall and lanky. It saw me on top of a cliff, maybe 20 feet away from it. It was already facing the cliff when I walked up. I couldnt see it's eyes or face. Only the jet black hair all over. The only features I could make out where the hands, with the hair coming up to them like a sleeve. Then it slowly backed into the trees. I never told anyone until years later, hearing a native account of the same creature. I dont go in the woods anymore

  • @grimmscuriosities9411
    @grimmscuriosities9411 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I tune out for five seconds and suddenly this guy is talking about being bodied by Bigfoot and how he’s in the process of suing him. Took a solid ten seconds for my brain to catch up with the ad read.

  • @RyanWRoehlAKZoomberBoomer
    @RyanWRoehlAKZoomberBoomer 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I'm Alaskan and I have a Native Alaskan Cousin ( I Called him Big Cuz Fred Roehl at SUBARCTIC ALASKA SASQUATCH )
    He Seen them and his side of his families and Friends and people who Retelling Fred Roehl and then he 2nd Hand Accounting the things that happened to himself or other people too

    • @matthewstillwagon4841
      @matthewstillwagon4841 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Love that channel. Fred is a cool dude

    • @jeffreycase9497
      @jeffreycase9497 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Fred absolutely rules. The brothers channel is top quality.

  • @schloiviking
    @schloiviking 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Valiant attempt on pronouncing Wewoka, but the way I've heard it pronounced (at least in Tulsa, Chandler and Stroud) is We - Woke - Ah, though even Oklahoma is prone to regionalism in terms of pronouncing place names

  • @Thorstendeal
    @Thorstendeal 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I love all the content that o have seen on this channel, my only gripe with any of the videos is the lack of proper subtitles as the Auto-generated captions are frankly completely crap and end up making you more confused than if you dont have them at all

  • @journeysintotheunknown1152
    @journeysintotheunknown1152 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I grew up on three different reservations. Each Rez had different ways of speaking about Sasquatch and we had a mass grave that was said to have been made after a battle with the wild men long ago

  • @highlanderNC-mr8fe
    @highlanderNC-mr8fe 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Lived in NC nearly all my life never heard of any apes or Bigfoot here. Now the people that move in from other states and tourists seem fascinated by the subject. The towns are all to happy to start Bigfoot festivals etc.

  • @halg5867
    @halg5867 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I know they've been briefly mentioned in a past video, but i would love Lore Lodge to speak on the Kushtaka of Southeast Alaska.

  • @mlw5665
    @mlw5665 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I want to thank you, Aiden, for demonstrating to the value of studying the humanities in every single video. If you love these videos but support cutting history and English and philosophy from your schools, or find yourself in those groups of people who chastise colleges for not completely focusing on fields like science and business, you should think twice. Corporate America does not value the humanities because it does the opposite of controlling you. The humanities open your mind and connect you to people who are different from you in time, place, culture, and race. So yes, it is less profitable right now to connect people than to promote hatred and fear, which seems to result in people buying a lot of s***.

  • @joeyhoward2669
    @joeyhoward2669 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Wendigo is not wild man or Bigfoot

  • @OkiSmokey
    @OkiSmokey 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    the intro caught me so off guard
    first thing I heard when I got up in the morning lol

  • @MatthewGill-nv4tb
    @MatthewGill-nv4tb 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Some of the wendigo stories or "bigfoot" stories from the plains region. They'll say they could hide behind trees.... that's not an important statement until you consider the size of the "trees" in those areas.
    It's basically an uneducated way of saying they could disappear
    Edit: the skin walker stories to me are the same... just described by different people different ways to the best of their knowledge

  • @biglootums5243
    @biglootums5243 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Bro dropped the Si-Te-Cah mention and requiem for a dream started playing in my head

  • @Rammmmmie
    @Rammmmmie 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Please more Aiden Devito

  • @nicolemorales2503
    @nicolemorales2503 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    OMG I loved the Wendigo in the Material World piece! That caught me off guard and I almost choke on my food! That was awesome! HAHAHA