Logic & Tarantino | The Art of "Stealing"

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  • What is the Art of "Stealing"?
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    In this video I:
    -explain The Art of "Stealing"
    -how Logic and Tarantino craft their stories for their movies, mixtapes, albums
    -why Michael B Jordan
    LOGIC:
    Sir Robert Bryson "Bobby" Hall II (born January 22, 1990), known by his stage name Logic, is an American rapper, singer, songwriter, and record producer. Raised in Gaithersburg, Maryland, he signed with Visionary Music Group, before releasing three more mixtapes over three years.
    Quentin Tarantino:
    Quentin Jerome Tarantino is an up and coming American director, writer, and actor.
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    SOURCES
    ► Footage: Logic | Logic Records Flexicution, 44 More | Take It Back (Music Video) | All I Do (Music Video) | Band of Outsiders | Django Unchained | Pulp Fiction | Gone With The Wind | Psycho | 8 1/2 | Logic Tour Footage | Amazing - Kanye | Black Spiderman (Music Video)
    ► Interviews: Logic Beats 1 | Logic on Hot Ones | Logic's Incredible Journey (Documentary) | Brad Pitt on Tarantino
    ► Images: Logic | Everybody | Under Pressure | The Incredible True Story | Bobby Tarantino | Bobby Tarantino II | Chris Webby | 808 & Heartbreaks | Man on the Moon | Eminem Freestyle | Hotline Bling | The Life of Pablo | Quentin Tarantino | Shia Labeouf | Undeniable | Travis Scott | ASAP Rocky | Merry Christmas Lil Mama - Chance the Rapper | The Dark Knight | LotR | Twilight | The Departed | Michael B Jordan
    ► Fanart: Andrewss23 (Tarantino)
    ► Music: Everybody - Logic | Contact - Logic | Amazing - Kanye West | Pursuit of Happiness - Kid Cudi | Never Enough - Logic | Under Pressure - Logic | Hotline Bling - Drake | Everyday - Logic | Waves - Kanye West | 44 More - Logic | Contra - Logic
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  • @lab9451
    @lab9451 5 ปีที่แล้ว +274

    maybe i shouldnt have commented before i finished the video... this kinda opened my mind to the concept of inspiration and making a style and how that fits into the dynamic of the "culture" today. legit not a bad vid at all

  • @terencewong7946
    @terencewong7946 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1575

    Just like what Nas said: "No idea's original, there's nothing new under the sun
    It's never what you do, but how it's done."

    • @loganroark3916
      @loganroark3916 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      terence wong what song

    • @GOKU8125
      @GOKU8125 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Logan Roark
      No Idea's Original

    • @loganroark3916
      @loganroark3916 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tib Khan thanks bro😂💯

    • @josephkuforiji9407
      @josephkuforiji9407 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Facts.

    • @PesterFester1966
      @PesterFester1966 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @The Hip-hop Underworld Kendrick ripped off Aquemini with GKMC...... Stop making it a big fucking deal.

  • @cornhq
    @cornhq 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2088

    The hotline bling comparison was pointless

    • @heavyd3708
      @heavyd3708 5 ปีที่แล้ว +125

      CornHD the hotling bling with everyday and waves with 44 more. Those last 2 wasn’t even close lol.

    • @jackyvstheworld
      @jackyvstheworld 5 ปีที่แล้ว +66

      Heavy D The Hotline Bling one was pointless, but the one for Waves was close because of the shouting vocal sample used for it. Not the beat/flows or anything. That vocal adlib-shout-thing was the exact same in Waves as in 44 More.

    • @OizyMusic
      @OizyMusic 5 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@jackyvstheworld 6ix sampled it,not logic

    • @jackdenzo
      @jackdenzo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The hotline bling one was because the song slows down and the beat changes and it talks about a girl

    • @CHARLZZIEE
      @CHARLZZIEE 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      HE TALKS ABOUT A GIRL? OMG YEAH BECAUSE DRAKE IS THE ONLY ONE TO EVER MAKE A SONG ABOUT A GIRL HAHA YOU KNOB@@jackdenzo

  • @jamesmillard3773
    @jamesmillard3773 5 ปีที่แล้ว +691

    He was quoting Cudi....they are actually friends

    • @callmeviper7723
      @callmeviper7723 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      James Millard
      Obviously

    • @blah8802
      @blah8802 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Yeah literally he mentioned him

    • @LILREMAlNS
      @LILREMAlNS 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      not at the time he dropped the album...

    • @jerads.7160
      @jerads.7160 5 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Nelson Mandela logic went on tour with kid cudi before logics album came out.... are you dumB?

    • @LILREMAlNS
      @LILREMAlNS 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      you're lying@@jerads.7160

  • @jalvorson
    @jalvorson 5 ปีที่แล้ว +150

    *Looks at the video description*
    *sees the phrase "Quentin Tarantino is an up and coming director"*
    Excuse me?

    • @willturner9756
      @willturner9756 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Fixed:
      "Quentin Tarantino is a̶n̶ ̶u̶p̶ ̶a̶n̶d̶ ̶c̶o̶m̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶d̶i̶r̶e̶c̶t̶o̶r̶ the G.O.A.T."

    • @wi77iama773n
      @wi77iama773n 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah the disrespect to the GOAT is definitely there.

    • @saintfaithdata
      @saintfaithdata 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The fact that no one is replying that the description is a very clear joke is making me think that this comment itself is a joke.

  • @Treataod
    @Treataod 6 ปีที่แล้ว +464

    “Good artist copy; great artist steal.” - Pablo Picasso

    • @drz616
      @drz616 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      plural

    • @charlesgaron8131
      @charlesgaron8131 6 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      and hip hop artists samples because its part of hip hop and its great

    • @complexity3324
      @complexity3324 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      「 Ju. 」 I

    • @RibbonVintageGirl
      @RibbonVintageGirl 6 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      "This is how idea was made: Steal, but *Make it Better* " -- Willam Belli

    • @kevingonzalez6778
      @kevingonzalez6778 6 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Charles Garon yeah a lot of people forget the fact that Hip Hop started by mixing two records to create a beat and to rap over it

  • @ericwillis4301
    @ericwillis4301 6 ปีที่แล้ว +609

    I love how you took this subject and broke it down so well and as a huge logic fan I can appreciate someone who can see a flaw but still understand what he is doing with his music and his own skill

    • @EvsPersonal
      @EvsPersonal 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Read my mind. Great comment

    • @charlesgaron8131
      @charlesgaron8131 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      hes sampling. a hip hop song without a sample in my opinion is worst then one with one. no samples = crap

  • @hazdogthesickest6175
    @hazdogthesickest6175 5 ปีที่แล้ว +114

    re-worded what you said and used it for a media seminar about Tarantino.
    You've made it.

  • @Evohate
    @Evohate 5 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    There’s a difference between a “fan” and a “Stan”

  • @MeLlamoFick
    @MeLlamoFick 6 ปีที่แล้ว +498

    This video so great Im about to steal it

    • @NosManJr
      @NosManJr 6 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Zipote this comment so good I legit already stole it and commented on this video

    • @poison03nae
      @poison03nae 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Hahaha this made me laugh harder than I thought 😂😂😂

    • @Bluebalz
      @Bluebalz 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      i killed it with the 421st like :(

  • @R3DXZZZ
    @R3DXZZZ 6 ปีที่แล้ว +313

    Thank god he had a organized video, criticism but he is intelligent and hes not throwing dirt on logics name...he just gained a subsciber

  • @insertnamehere4959
    @insertnamehere4959 6 ปีที่แล้ว +889

    Boi, I'm about to get inspired by this video real quick

  • @C_The_Guy
    @C_The_Guy 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1191

    Logic has borrowed a lot more than that lol. thats only scratching the surface.
    he frequently uses flows and song styles from Drake, Kendrick, Cole, Common, Eminem, MGK, Gambino, Kanye, Travis Scott, Big Sean and even Joey Bada$$ at times.
    and yet he's still one of my favorites. 🤷‍♂️ he gives the credit for stuff that inspires him and shows respect to people.
    aside from that, he also has his own original flow, that you can always tell when hes being himself and no one else.

    • @ToniiTheShooter
      @ToniiTheShooter 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      c yeaahh bro be copying rappers. Still playing with his grandads money !

    • @SonnySantana2099
      @SonnySantana2099 6 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      c I’m logic fan. But that’s facts. He does do that. But he’s real. He gives credit. He took it but many of people do that. He still has a great mind for an rapper

    • @traceyclaver6076
      @traceyclaver6076 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      c I think that's his appeal. It's that he's somehow made all the culture we know inti his own. A nerd that raps.

    • @LordFerbombi
      @LordFerbombi 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Tonii The Shooter it’s called paying homage dumbass

    • @GrantSteenholdt
      @GrantSteenholdt 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      When I saw him in Detroit he literally said “this that Travis” when he was rapping the auto tuned part in Wizard of Oz

  • @halokeeper
    @halokeeper 6 ปีที่แล้ว +346

    "samples more than an elderly person at a Sam's Club" - perfect. lol

    • @TheHippy-te3tx
      @TheHippy-te3tx 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      halokeeper
      It was pretty funny though

    • @izharkhalil751
      @izharkhalil751 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lool I read this just as he said it

  • @jeanmatthewernest
    @jeanmatthewernest 6 ปีที่แล้ว +280

    Hopefully everybody watched the whole video before commenting

    • @exthechickenwing
      @exthechickenwing 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Matth I did not. Dislike with the quickness

    • @eastco.3536
      @eastco.3536 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Most likely not

    • @davidrichmond4905
      @davidrichmond4905 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      No need. Logic is a small fries learning life yet thinking his the first man to know it. 2018 kids can "feel" personalities nowadays

    • @charlesgaron8131
      @charlesgaron8131 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      yea kids born in 2018 definitly listens to logic....

  • @yeehawbrother6672
    @yeehawbrother6672 5 ปีที่แล้ว +193

    logics best project has and always will be under pressure

    • @Pnyvsh
      @Pnyvsh 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      The entire album is amazing

    • @BBGirlSamus
      @BBGirlSamus 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      The Incredible True Story...

    • @MattGoetz
      @MattGoetz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      He really followed up well with The Incredible True Story though

    • @BBGirlSamus
      @BBGirlSamus 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@MattGoetz personally I sometimes prefer TITS over UP, but only sometimes

    • @MattGoetz
      @MattGoetz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@BBGirlSamus Yeah recently I've been bumping True Story way more than I used to and it's just because sometimes the mindset you are in changes how you "hear" the music and how you perceive it and True Story just seems like a more mature UP to me. A more developed character of Bobby.

  • @AL4XMusic
    @AL4XMusic 5 ปีที่แล้ว +408

    As a Logic fan, I like the way you presented this. You were able to simultaneously point out flaws and also show reasoning as to why he is liked. A lot of musical debates don't do that, so thank you.
    P.S. favorite logic song from mixtapes would be inception, from albums it's under pressure (the full version, specifically)

    • @Ariaa76
      @Ariaa76 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Especially the last part ... :)

  • @Fillup82
    @Fillup82 6 ปีที่แล้ว +159

    "Good artists copy, great artists steal." - Pablo Picasso

    • @charlesgaron8131
      @charlesgaron8131 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      but its sampling

    • @bryandiaz1044
      @bryandiaz1044 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@charlesgaron8131 the difference

    • @dustycomputer1806
      @dustycomputer1806 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      logic copies

    • @Bruno3605
      @Bruno3605 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      "Every time I change wives I should burn the last one. That way I'd be rid of them. They wouldn't be around to complicate my existence. Maybe, that would bring back my youth, too. You kill the woman and you wipe out the past she represents." -Pablo Picasso.
      Yeah, quote that bastard.

    • @mayfalltribe4747
      @mayfalltribe4747 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not the quote at all.

  • @benjamingraham5464
    @benjamingraham5464 6 ปีที่แล้ว +470

    As a massive Logic fan I went into this video wanting to immediately dispute him "stealing".However I will say that you had a refreshing view on the difference in stealing and inspiration and where the line is drawn. Personally I agree with you there are so many artists that are "guilty" of this. But with so much music being made everyday and so many new artists emerging one could see how there is overlap sometimes. Overall a fantastic video that really covers all sides of the topic. Oh and my favorite logic song is till the end on Under pressure.

    • @TheAtZShow
      @TheAtZShow  6 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      I appreciate you watching the whole thing.
      That’s a damn good song too

    • @prinzez6559
      @prinzez6559 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Lol he made me actually rethink how things work in reality, everything is influenced even classics

  • @tragedystrixesagain
    @tragedystrixesagain 6 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    As far as the “Amazing”/“Contact”
    Logic himself said something along the line of like “of course it sounded the same, because it’s the same instrument” lol

  • @TheRealJahan
    @TheRealJahan 6 ปีที่แล้ว +602

    This is one of those videos you need to watch to completion before going to the comments

  • @KlyzmTheFirst
    @KlyzmTheFirst 6 ปีที่แล้ว +108

    HE’S BEEN HIDING THESE LOGIC REFERENCES..
    “Undeniable, Execution,& Take it way back”

    • @TheAtZShow
      @TheAtZShow  6 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      👀

    • @tridux
      @tridux 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      He hid an Everybody as well.

    • @itzhallows486
      @itzhallows486 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Take it way way back to the first black man

  • @honoos1962
    @honoos1962 5 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    Bobby Tarantino II being his best mixtape?? Man did you listen to all the Young Sinatras?

    • @goliath3206
      @goliath3206 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      EXACTLY

    • @jd5726
      @jd5726 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Welcome To Forever is easily the best Logic mixtape, BT2 is good but it's his worst mix tape imo

    • @illestJonny
      @illestJonny 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Clearly didnt

    • @RonaldYengwayo
      @RonaldYengwayo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@jd5726 indeed!!!!!!! WELCOME TO FOREVER IS A CLASSIC.

  • @shonyeezy5672
    @shonyeezy5672 6 ปีที่แล้ว +96

    I always looked at logics style as if:
    1: He's A guy who has been through alot has alot to talk about.
    2: Who has a crazy ability to rap unlike alot of people.
    3: Has alot of influences and proudly shows it while also at the same time still knows how to put his style on it.

    • @montezleamonte1445
      @montezleamonte1445 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Okay name a single song that he didn’t take lyrics, a flow, or a beat from somebody else. Make me 1 single song and I will find you the original work logic and six copied.

    • @markharell5320
      @markharell5320 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Dont Worry about it did you watch the video or read the comment correctly?? Lmao I don’t think you paid attention. The kid in the comment said he has a lot of influences. No one said he has any song that isn’t influenced. Nothing is new anymore. If you were to try to find a song from this year alone I can promise you that it would be pretty damn hard to find a song that won’t have similar lyrics, beat, or flow to a different work. Nothings new man. Pay a little attention

    • @wholemilk6001
      @wholemilk6001 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@markharell5320 kendrick drake and j cole are all original. stfu scrub

    • @wholemilk6001
      @wholemilk6001 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      his rapping isnt that crazy. and all he does is copy

    • @tb8654
      @tb8654 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@montezleamonte1445 Dear God, 500 Days of Summer

  • @TheAtZShow
    @TheAtZShow  6 ปีที่แล้ว +833

    What is your favorite Logic song?
    #Flexicution

    • @tylerk5975
      @tylerk5975 6 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      The AtZ Show Never Been! I'm a HUGE Logic fan, but this is a great video. Well done, sir.

    • @MrKiingpin
      @MrKiingpin 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Are you a pusha t fan

    • @Robo-bm4cv
      @Robo-bm4cv 6 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      Warm it up

    • @Ziallow
      @Ziallow 6 ปีที่แล้ว +66

      Definatly Man of the year.
      Had such an impact on me

    • @arnulfopadilla6085
      @arnulfopadilla6085 6 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      925

  • @nickynada-btc
    @nickynada-btc 6 ปีที่แล้ว +378

    Everything is a Remix... watch the doc

    • @charlesgaron8131
      @charlesgaron8131 6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      ITS SAMPLES YOU FUCKTARD

    • @Shay45
      @Shay45 6 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      Charles Garon
      “Everything is a Remix” is a documentary that this person is asking people to watch

    • @TheDoodLbot
      @TheDoodLbot 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ikr, shoutout to Kirby1 😊

    • @kevingonzalez6778
      @kevingonzalez6778 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Hip Hop started by mixing two records to create a beat and rap on it

    • @AnitaHanjaaab
      @AnitaHanjaaab 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@charlesgaron8131 Everything is a Remix is a documentary asshole. Do your research before trying to make someone look stupid.

  • @YoungPrecise
    @YoungPrecise 6 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    yo we was chill till you said bobby taratino 2 is his best mixtape. it's welcome to forever hands down 100%

    • @itzlawick
      @itzlawick 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Young Sinatra undeniable?????

    • @devindottagain
      @devindottagain 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yessir

    • @xboxnation2854
      @xboxnation2854 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@itzlawick that's what I'm sayin!

  • @rayshepherd5971
    @rayshepherd5971 5 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    ...sampling? And the hotline bling one was the biggest reach.
    However during the end you made some good points.

  • @traplover6357
    @traplover6357 6 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Logic is like an always-inspiring learner. A pro is he is able to change to styles that people use. A con is he isn't experimental. Jack of all trades but master of none.

    • @itstroy4145
      @itstroy4145 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      “Jack of all trades is a master of none but oftentimes better than a master of one” say the whole quote not just part of it.

    • @LargeInCharge77
      @LargeInCharge77 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@itstroy4145 nah

    • @itstroy4145
      @itstroy4145 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LargeInCharge77 no one was talking to you

    • @fletchersaucey5243
      @fletchersaucey5243 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bro what? He has mastered boom nap and to say otherwise is foolish

  • @antiform47
    @antiform47 6 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    I think its very disingenuous to say that an artist like Logic is simply "ordering take out and rearranging it to call it his own" just because you use the same samples as another song in one part doesnt mean by any stretch that the song as a whole is the same. You have to take into account all of the instrumentals, the vibe, beat, and lyrics. Its more like, say I made a painting of a room, and within that room are all of my inspirations. If within the room of the painting there is another small painting on the wall of, say the mona lisa- something iconic and relateable. you cant just shrug off my entire painting saying that the overall painting of the entire room is simply a copy of the mona lisa.

    • @TheAtZShow
      @TheAtZShow  6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I agree.
      That was a broad statement for those who don’t find their voice - I give Logic his props at the end.
      Throughout, actually.

    • @Classikh
      @Classikh 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He does that on some songs but I wouldn't say that overall. That Travis Scott type song was a straight rip-off, he even copied his ad-lib.

    • @LargeInCharge77
      @LargeInCharge77 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      He also just straight-up takes entire lyrics though

  • @demonbutterfly147
    @demonbutterfly147 6 ปีที่แล้ว +90

    I feel like, with logic, when he “steals” lines from other artists it’s just an allusion to that piece. It’s mostly just a little cameo for people who know that piece and I think that is ok. There are some where he uses other’s lines frequently and that’s where my issue arises. But whatever he’s to popular and to rich for anything to change.

    • @Double189
      @Double189 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      And that makes it ok how....

    • @ethanfast971
      @ethanfast971 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@Double189 because if you listen to all of logics sounds, albums, and freestyles, you can tell he has real tallent. The words have meaning and the very few cuts he may use from other songs is almost nothing.

    • @adonis8293
      @adonis8293 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      This is Hip Hop. Dudes that did what he does as frequently as he does back in the day didnt last long, talent or not.

    • @emanatingf
      @emanatingf 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@adonis8293 That is very true

    • @jocelyncams1826
      @jocelyncams1826 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ethan Fast logic is overrated and a lame. He’s weird as hell

  • @averagejoe225
    @averagejoe225 6 ปีที่แล้ว +83

    I think the mark of a good sample is how transformative it is.
    Look at Luther Vandross' "A House Is Not A Home" and Kanye West's "Slow Jamz." The difference between the two songs is shocking. The sample elevates the status of the original song from relative obscurity, and shows that Kanye listens to a lot of diverse music outside of hip-hop.
    When Logic samples "Waves", or "Amazing", 1. He isn't elevating the status of Kanye West, because Kanye is already an extremely popular figure, it comes across more like Logic is trying to elevate HIMSELF to Kanye's level, and 2. It doesn't show Logic's dedication to music, because who the fuck hasn't heard those songs. The popularity of Logic's samples comes across more like he's biting their style because those people are still around, still making fucking music. It doesn't feel like he's humbled by their greatness; rather, he's climbing their coat tails to get himself up to their level of greatness.

    • @georgeshiroda1173
      @georgeshiroda1173 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If this guy was being honest and saw this comment he’d like it. I felt defensive for logic vibes disguised as objectivity lol that’s just my opinion though. Understanding the origin and actually being creative or using it in a new transcendent way is important and your comment shows that

  • @raullopez4243
    @raullopez4243 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Perfect! This is the definition of analysis, viewing a topic from all aspects without bias! Critical feedback is what pushes up to greatness, people just don’t like hearing their flaws...but the great take it and improve upon it.

  • @CharmsYT
    @CharmsYT 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I saw the title and instantly clicked. I’ve always talked to friends about how Logic and Tarantino are similar because of how they take inspiration and wear them on their sleeve. Thank you for making this video, I gotta show some friends this.

  • @lubnaabdulrehman4431
    @lubnaabdulrehman4431 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    you are sooooo good at what u do and make such good points that I would have never thought about

  • @yungdolo8035
    @yungdolo8035 6 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    No one has EVER broken down the “copycat” mentality as accurately as you have and for that, you have earned a sub keep up the good work

  • @iazteca1762
    @iazteca1762 6 ปีที่แล้ว +85

    An amazing video. One of the most reasonable and constructive discussions I've heard about "stealing"/sampling/influence, etc.

    • @PandMusic
      @PandMusic 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      iAzteca agree hahah

  • @ccole99
    @ccole99 6 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    This why you are my favorite TH-camer!!! A little older but I was talking to my nieces and nephews who are in their teens... I was trying to explain to them and I ended up showing them exactly what you just started with... How his shit is borrowed heavily!!!

    • @jblue1622
      @jblue1622 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ccole99 TH-camer is that like a Disney Imagineer?

    • @honeyyb
      @honeyyb 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Do you actually listen to rap? If you did, you'd know that when rappers use a line from another song, they're paying homage to that artist.

    • @Angel-qn5bv
      @Angel-qn5bv 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Brittany Jorgensen like J. Cole in Adolescence, when he says “I grew up, a fuckin screw up.” shits nice. idk why people complain bout it

    • @advancedkiller23
      @advancedkiller23 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ccole99 but their all samples. Even the kid cudi line he said in an interview how he called cudi up and asked if he could use it even checked with his label and manager. Yeah he samples alot but every rapper samples. For the most part most beats on the mixtape were created by "6ix" his producer

    • @ccole99
      @ccole99 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Brittany Jorgensen yes, matter fact I remember my very first tape that’s right tape of the chronic!!! My dad bought it for me because I told him that George Clinton was on the tape... That was 94 or so... i’ve been alive long enough to watch wrap go from something that people just think is evil to the phenomena that is now... From Will Smith winning the first Grammy for rap album to triple six mafia winning Oscar for best song... One thing I can say is opinions are like assholes we all have one

  • @vividthegreat5786
    @vividthegreat5786 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good job man, this topic was articulated so well!

  • @mattclarkson3685
    @mattclarkson3685 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I saw this video when it came out in march, (clicked on it for Tarantino) and it 1. Inspired me to develop my own style and 2. Introduced me to Logic.

  • @Reforex
    @Reforex 6 ปีที่แล้ว +133

    I know that rap samples more than an elder person at a Sam's club 😂😂

    • @charlesgaron8131
      @charlesgaron8131 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      hip hop*, and cause its part of hip hop

  • @AstoldbyNicole
    @AstoldbyNicole 6 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    I love your videos man. They’re always so well put together and informational. As a huge logic fan you hit the nail on the head with your plot points. Thanks for this video man

    • @alejandromurillo7938
      @alejandromurillo7938 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      DearNurse Nicole fuck logic

    • @joshweber3110
      @joshweber3110 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It’s actually plot points not point plots

    • @AstoldbyNicole
      @AstoldbyNicole 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mythical Titan that’s what I meant lol thanks though

    • @ToniiTheShooter
      @ToniiTheShooter 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      DearNurse Nicole he definitely did

  • @germvn.837
    @germvn.837 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Ive been a Logic fan for a long time and youre right. I hate how everyone thinks artists are "stealing" when really they're js inspired and trying to chase their dream. Logic is talented as hell and definitely deserves respect. You explain and understand! Subscribed!

  • @eduardozepeda5746
    @eduardozepeda5746 6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Have you not heard, “ Welcome to Forever?” Bobby Tarantino is not the best mixtape

  • @Ewimnotluke
    @Ewimnotluke 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    "Once you've made something that's worthy of being stolen itself, then I think you've made it".......DAAAAAAAAMNN DUDE

  • @vincenzohhh
    @vincenzohhh 6 ปีที่แล้ว +86

    I wouldn't say he's rearranging the food on a plate and calling it his own, I'd say it's more like he's Using the same plate as other artists with his own recipe on top.

    • @hollownecryb
      @hollownecryb 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's the most accurate analogy I've ever read.

    • @geraldgreen919
      @geraldgreen919 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Yeah If his recipe is a combination of other artists recipes. This dude has used so many other artists sound, & it’s the exact reason I stopped listening to him recently. Plus he uses the same words & even sometimes bars a lot. Dude has rhymed every word that ends with -ated in like 40% of his songs. Logic is a fan of hip hop that wants to mash all his favorite aspects of it together. He’s not trying to create his own lane.

    • @rust44
      @rust44 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      VinnyThePooh More like same recipe with a different colour plate.

    • @Geassmaster55
      @Geassmaster55 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      VinnyThePooh with the recipe having the same ingredients from many different rappers

    • @tomleonard830
      @tomleonard830 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You can give the same ingredients to different chefs and get two VERY different dishes. Similarly two artists using the same components in their art (music or film) can still result in two distinct pieces of art.

  • @PokeTwilight
    @PokeTwilight 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hit the nail on the head with those points. Thanks to Logic, I listened to more music I haven't been exposed before. Favorite track of Logic is definitely Soul Food followed by City of Stars.

  • @dubRush
    @dubRush 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    this is my first time coming to your channel but you’re very insightful and i enjoyed what you had to say. subbed

  • @ShinbrigTV
    @ShinbrigTV 6 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    I agree that basically nothing is original anymore and it's all about execution.
    EDIT: Also I just lost it at the Michael B. Jordon bit.

  • @ZakariLyrics
    @ZakariLyrics 6 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    You know I read this title thinking that this guy was going to go in on Logic and call him out on stealing a bunch of shit. But after all the points he gives, im glad I heard him out. Great video!

  • @DDoggy1224
    @DDoggy1224 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was about to go off but decided to watch the whole video. You make a good point. Good video man.

  • @jacobturnage
    @jacobturnage 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I swear I’m shocked each video with how real you are. Found you via the Kanye/Cudi video a lil while ago; spot on, insta-sub. This was no different. Keep it up, man!

  • @Jacoblmitchell
    @Jacoblmitchell 6 ปีที่แล้ว +286

    I am logic fan. The title caught my eye, watched the full video. We’ll said and agree with most of your points. You got yourself a new sub!

    • @cameronhall4630
      @cameronhall4630 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Jacob your obviously not a real logic fan, he clearly just uses samples and says a sentence from a rappers song that he loves

  • @drunkengoku
    @drunkengoku 6 ปีที่แล้ว +96

    Damn he said if you take something and make it your own. Now others wanna steal it 🔥.

  • @lthree1728
    @lthree1728 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love logic and his music. I like the way you delivered the video too! Awesome work!

  • @MissCedesMarie123
    @MissCedesMarie123 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome video and great commentary. You earned yourself a new sub 🙌🏾

  • @GokuBurraku
    @GokuBurraku 6 ปีที่แล้ว +116

    You slick boi, I saw that undeniable when you said undeniable

  • @timeyinbinitie47
    @timeyinbinitie47 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Was going to dislike till I watched excellent analysis will definitely be subscribing.

  • @philip1875
    @philip1875 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    You’re endings are bloody perfect

  • @andreuariciaga8043
    @andreuariciaga8043 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I mean Tarantino did say “I steal from every movie ever made”. He just makes that shit look 10000% more bad ass. Love the video tho. Really went in depth with everything. Subbing!

  • @AllTheArtsy
    @AllTheArtsy 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    "Good artists copy; great artists steal."
    If you're any kind of creative person, you already know the difference and what they mean.

  • @angusridgway3875
    @angusridgway3875 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    One of the best vids yet💯💯

  • @mitchypoohbear
    @mitchypoohbear 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man, you bring up a lot of good points! 10/10

  • @scubadre9620
    @scubadre9620 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dope ass video 👌👌 buried alive is probably my fav song. You sir just earned a subscription

  • @rsthilaire
    @rsthilaire 6 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I really love Logic, probably my favorite artist, but I always understand where people are coming from when they talk about his influencers and if they don't fully appreciate him. But holy hell, Bobby Tarantino 2 is a near perfect mixtape for me. Just a fun time. Although, he does contradict himself SO MUCH... its still really lit. Love the video, really great parallels between Tarantino and Young Sinatra himself!

    • @SilverScopez007
      @SilverScopez007 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ryan St. Hilaire what do you mean contradicts himself?

    • @cozydesignz8921
      @cozydesignz8921 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      yh logic said bobby taratino mixtapes aren't serious projects they're just for fun and to vibe

  • @Sinofria1898
    @Sinofria1898 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Great video man! I have never seen your stuff and I was pleasantly surprised by the level headed attitude on this subject. As a guy in a band, I can tell you that you got alot of these things right from the perspective of many musicians. I think your point about whether anyone can call themselves the best if the steal is really valid. I have been forced in my time in college to study music history, and I can tell you that this has been happening forever. Beethoven was hugely inspired by Haydn and Mozart and he is considered by many to be the most influential composer in that realm of music. The difference is like you said, setting yourself apart, and for rap that usually means lyrically, at least for me. I think the Cudi rip that you showed is an example of logic stealing, but to specifically show the love to a huge influence of his. I personally don't think logic is the best to do it, not because he steals from others, but that he recycles lyrics from mixtape to album of vice versa. Everything aside though, it seems like you are doing good, thoughtful videos and I'll be checking more out. I'll leave you with a quote from Stravinsky to double down on how good your thoughts on the subject are. "A good composer does not imitate, he steals."

  • @stellarspace_95
    @stellarspace_95 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    not everyone can actually make a really good sounding beat. as bright as logic is, he needs inspiration to come up with his hits and musical composition is something he needs to spark that. if he could do both he would've been a god. like if he could mix and master and rap all by himself without a single other hand.. damn

  • @-issdeej-1158
    @-issdeej-1158 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Damn not many people on the internet have an open mind like you, nice to see it.

  • @Damonetyrell
    @Damonetyrell 6 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    “Rap samples more than an elder person at a Sam’s club” thank you sir you just ghost wrote some of my bars 🤷🏿‍♂️

    • @bobbyclark3940
      @bobbyclark3940 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Damone Tyrell STEALING

    • @Damonetyrell
      @Damonetyrell 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bobby Clark “SAMPLING”

  • @trident8480
    @trident8480 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I see it as more paying homage to the original flows or samples he uses but I am boast because I love him

  • @matthewb9669
    @matthewb9669 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very well done, love the way you made your point.

  • @HowWeSeeItPodcast
    @HowWeSeeItPodcast 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video. Huge logic fan but the video is valid. You did this 100% on point and much love because some people just straight bash instead of being constructive

  • @Ryanspashai
    @Ryanspashai 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Damn you really went in because I initially thought this was gonna be very opinionated but really this was very informative

  • @CliffyH21
    @CliffyH21 6 ปีที่แล้ว +95

    Logic and stealing in the same sentence ? Pump your brakes! **watches before judgement**

  • @lukechallies7148
    @lukechallies7148 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    You have really high quality content. I wish you lots of success man

  • @cd-ee9mf
    @cd-ee9mf 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm so glad you popped up in my recommended. I found your channel a week ago and then my phone crashed and I lost you 😂

  • @ProducerCastro
    @ProducerCastro 6 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    This is called an Interpolation. Its the artists own twist on the original.

    • @charlesgaron8131
      @charlesgaron8131 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      its called sampling fuckhead

    • @asvp__miller1065
      @asvp__miller1065 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Charles Garon dude can you get lost?? 😂😂 you’re on everybody ass for no reason

    • @Ninwing
      @Ninwing 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Interpolation and sampling are really similar but they aren't the same. Interpolation focuses more on delivery, intonation and just general style. Listen to GOMD by J. Cole or Normal Girl by SZA and you'll notice how similar they are to the original but is used for a different purpose.

  • @bardiarahmati649
    @bardiarahmati649 6 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Who can relate!
    WOO!

  • @NoctuaOW
    @NoctuaOW 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was a great video you just earned a sub

  • @yaelfierro3344
    @yaelfierro3344 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Damn, this video is so good. You just won a new subscriber. 🔥

  • @evsanger
    @evsanger 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    My best bass teacher taught me that the best way to come up with your own music is to look at the playing of others and learn it, and then splice it all together to create your own sound. I'm not plagiarizing if I learn the same lick as my favorite bass player, I'm not plagiarizing if I use that lick in my own solos and creation, but I if I use that lick over the same backing with the same context, we have a different story. Even though Logic is using beats and even some lines that don't belong to him, they're more like allusions to famous rap titles and artists rather than blatant stealing. Logic is so good because he knows the sounds he likes, from the artists he likes, and how to present it all to his fans while still being original. This creates a holistic sounding mega album that is mass produced and circulated through millions of hands, while, again, still being original. In this sense, he's merely following in the footsteps of artists of his monetary and commercial calibre (Kendrick, Rihanna, etc)

    • @tb8654
      @tb8654 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Half of this comment is accurate and the other half is riding Logic, what is original? Trippie Redd and Carti have more unique work in their songs, lyric/flow/melody wide within the past 2 albums than Logic has had across his last 5

    • @evsanger
      @evsanger 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tb8654 4 years after writing this comment I can definitely agree that I was riding Logic there. I think I was just trying to get at the fact that he made it as a successful artist because of those traits. His album is original in the sense that he didn't plagiarize the work but the song ideas themselves aren't original

    • @tb8654
      @tb8654 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@evsanger crap I didn't even notice it was YEARS 😭 I def agree on that bro, I do like Logic both musically and as a person

  • @dario.m4707
    @dario.m4707 5 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Rap is not about the beat its about the lyrics just because a beat is similar it doesn't mean that they are bad

    • @ryanb.carden255
      @ryanb.carden255 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      If you had good lyrics over a fart sound you wouldn’t listen to it. Beats in rap are equal to lyrics in the building of hip hop as a culture and personally I feel like they can be more important

    • @SpliffyHusk
      @SpliffyHusk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It is always about the beat bro

    • @chiefblanko
      @chiefblanko 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ryanb.carden255 false. Bears eat beats. Bears, beats, battle star galactica

  • @l.Isidro.l
    @l.Isidro.l 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the video man

  • @bingoroger5336
    @bingoroger5336 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just gotta say dude, Iove your channel. 🙌

  • @KaelenB
    @KaelenB 6 ปีที่แล้ว +193

    My favorite Logic song?
    #DeadPresidentsIIIAllTheWay

  • @AdamsProcrastination
    @AdamsProcrastination 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    There is absolutely nothing wrong with taking samples and inspiration from other songs and albums, I love logic and I love the artists he 'straight up jacked' from, he's a very talented artist with a bigger and even brighter future ahead of him #Rattpack

  • @martin-oo4wn
    @martin-oo4wn 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really good video you deserve more subs

  • @AL-mx6yx
    @AL-mx6yx 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    ‘Everything is a Remix’. The best video out there that touches upon this subject.

  • @theoreticallydrew
    @theoreticallydrew 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I liked the video and the fact your doing both criticism and positives towards Logic being influenced and stuff. If I have to say who does it the best, in my opinion I have to say Eminem. If you look at his songs he has some that straight up use music/lyrics from popular songs and makes them his own. Like rhyme or reason and in your head are two big examples.

  • @velvetoscillator
    @velvetoscillator 5 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    lol Kanye - Waves is also a sampled track.

  • @safariatari1094
    @safariatari1094 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love Logic and your vid explains a lot about him. Some of my favourite songs are Metropolis, All I do, Disgusting and every song on The Incredible True Story. Fav song on the new mixtape is Warm It Up!

  • @YamekDrope
    @YamekDrope 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    What a great discovery. Imm end my youtube daily dose with this dude vid.

  • @RickOnTheLoose
    @RickOnTheLoose 6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    *The Art of Sampling

  • @homes500
    @homes500 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    C'mon "crush a bit, little bit, roll it up, take a hit" is something schoolboy q has used as well. Plenty of rappers have said it just like C.R.E.A.M. Imo I don't think logic copies. It's similar but it's not copying. Even the hotline bling comparison I didn't really see copying I just saw a similar style in a different beat. The only one I could see is the contact song since that beat is almost exactly like amazing except a little slower.

  • @vektheartist
    @vektheartist 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video premise and good arguments. I personally liked “Everybody” more than “BT2”, but I could break that down somewhere else. Someone once made the analogy that Tarantino is a “master DJ of cinema” and I can definitely see something similar with Logic in his own way of music. The comment you made on both of them being students of the craft is right on and because of that, me as the listener is inspired to discover their influences and become a student myself. That’s why I love both artists.

  • @thoremblem3625
    @thoremblem3625 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    The way that logic has the information at the end of some songs from the under pressure album reminds me of how a tribe called quest did the same type of thing on their midnight marauders album

  • @ComedyLikerVideos
    @ComedyLikerVideos 6 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I drew that Tarantino cartoon at the 2:17 mark back in 2013. It was actually part of a bigger artwork that I was designing as a gift for my friend's birthday. How did you find it?

    • @TheAtZShow
      @TheAtZShow  6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Googled Tarantino PNG and popped up on related.
      Cited it under “Andrews 23”, is that you?

    • @ComedyLikerVideos
      @ComedyLikerVideos 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Well, my DeviantArt name is Andrewss23 (with TWO 's'es), but you were close enough, so yes, that's me.

    • @TheAtZShow
      @TheAtZShow  6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Gotcha, updated
      Good stuff!

    • @ComedyLikerVideos
      @ComedyLikerVideos 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thanks! I appreciate it!

  • @Ggggggggggggg2342
    @Ggggggggggggg2342 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Wanna know something? We wouldnt be anything without the people before us.

  • @RoccoCaruso
    @RoccoCaruso 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    well spoken and great points

  • @lightflame_669
    @lightflame_669 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    damn this is a good video.
    nice job.