In Australia we play 90 % of club competition rounds as stableford,therefore one of the 5 is not having a wipe (zero points) on hole. This means If my handicap is 9, therefore getting shots on hardest 9 holes, so a DB 6 on a par 4 with a shot is still 1 point. In stableford its not the wiped holes (zero points) which impact score
I could easily be wrong, but I feel like the mental game doesn’t really come into play until one has the basic technical swing down (in all realms-driving, approach shots, short game). If you’re bad (like me-20 HC), focus on hitting consistently. Don’t expect to play well-don’t get angry with your game, you suck.
Kind of true about not having excessive expectations. Basically your strategy should always be more conservative than you think. This will free you up to make a confident swing (Rotella)
I agree to some extent, if we’re talking about a 20 handicap shooting 75. However the mental game is the quickest and easiest way to improve. I’m a +5 handicap (my scoring avg is around 68) and I can’t tell you how many guys I play with that are 15-20 handicaps that fixate over how bad they’re hitting it but don’t even think about the fact that they just three putted four holes in a row. I remember one day I called all the shots for my dad who is around 20 and he broke 80 for the first time in decades. I really think mental game is a huge asset for any skill level.
Your bodies ability to swing a club is not the issue. It's your mentality and your indecision of what you are actually asking your body to do. Throw a club to a target and your body won't need any instructions off TH-cam. It'll do whatever it needs to do, adapting and making changes for wind etc in a millisecond. Everyone can make a consistent swing. They just need to understand how to manipulate ball position and AOA to dictate the ball flight and spin. You can't find that out on the course. You need to research it and only then can you start having proper intentions over the ball wiith actual instructions for your body and fully commit to shots
@@antap none 😂 I played mini tours for a while but it’s insane how competitive pro golf is. It can cost $500-$900 for an event and you need to go stupid low to make any money, very tough game
I’m currently an 18 handicap 🤮🤮. I don’t think the Tiger 5 will be realistic for me but I could imagine a more-realistic 5 goals. Maybe: 5 GIR 3 saves No three putts No penalty strokes Something else goes here.
So, the moral of the story is don't try to be a hero. Ego in check. Take the safest play to avoid the bogey, double bogey. And if you do make a mistake, make sure it's only a bogey. It's really insightful to learn that a birdie is nowhere near as good as a bogey is bad.
loved this episode. curious tho.. "recovering college golf coach" ? It also seemed like Scott was commenting negatively about college golf coaching? I'm not a college coach, didn't play in college, but might have a daughter on track to play golf in college. Is there an episode or one planned to expand on your's and Scott's comments about college golf coaching? I wonder why the negative perspective. Thanks.
@@MarkImmelman thx for the reply. Absolutely understand you were a college coach.. Yes, I for one would be interested, in a show from that perspective... and as someone from the outside, what gives you and others (like Scott) the less than positive perspective looking back on that experience. Perhaps, you were only joking, but still curious. Thanks, again.
@@christophercanfield107 Hank Haney has commented on it before. It's just a ton of drama. You have to play a lot of politics to get invitations to tournaments and stuff. There's also poaching players, backbiting, etc. It'd be a cool episode to listen to though, maybe he can get Casey Martin on or something.
This system sounds great. I tried to buy it and the onboarding experience was not supported. I really wanted to use this. You make it too hard to get started.
What difficulties did you experience? I signed up a couple of weeks back for the 6 month FOUNDATIONS and found it quite easy. That being said the app and the guis aren't the best looking ever but the content is decent.
Awesome from you both. I’ve had similar realisations to Fawcett. Avoid bad chips, hit irons solid to safe targets, drive well and focus on putting speed. These are the keys for most amateurs.
Years ago, Tiger Woods came out with a book called how I golf. He talks a little bit about meditation in that book.
In Australia we play 90 % of club competition rounds as stableford,therefore one of the 5 is not having a wipe (zero points) on hole.
This means If my handicap is 9, therefore getting shots on hardest 9 holes, so a DB 6 on a par 4 with a shot is still 1 point.
In stableford its not the wiped holes (zero points) which impact score
Great episode. Amazing info in this chat. Thanks
I could easily be wrong, but I feel like the mental game doesn’t really come into play until one has the basic technical swing down (in all realms-driving, approach shots, short game). If you’re bad (like me-20 HC), focus on hitting consistently. Don’t expect to play well-don’t get angry with your game, you suck.
Kind of true about not having excessive expectations. Basically your strategy should always be more conservative than you think. This will free you up to make a confident swing (Rotella)
I agree to some extent, if we’re talking about a 20 handicap shooting 75. However the mental game is the quickest and easiest way to improve. I’m a +5 handicap (my scoring avg is around 68) and I can’t tell you how many guys I play with that are 15-20 handicaps that fixate over how bad they’re hitting it but don’t even think about the fact that they just three putted four holes in a row. I remember one day I called all the shots for my dad who is around 20 and he broke 80 for the first time in decades. I really think mental game is a huge asset for any skill level.
Your bodies ability to swing a club is not the issue. It's your mentality and your indecision of what you are actually asking your body to do. Throw a club to a target and your body won't need any instructions off TH-cam. It'll do whatever it needs to do, adapting and making changes for wind etc in a millisecond. Everyone can make a consistent swing. They just need to understand how to manipulate ball position and AOA to dictate the ball flight and spin. You can't find that out on the course. You need to research it and only then can you start having proper intentions over the ball wiith actual instructions for your body and fully commit to shots
@@farmerjogamingGood point, your Dad PLAYED golf strategically when he borrowed your brain.
Your average score is 68? What Tour do you play on?
@@antap none 😂 I played mini tours for a while but it’s insane how competitive pro golf is. It can cost $500-$900 for an event and you need to go stupid low to make any money, very tough game
I’m currently an 18 handicap 🤮🤮. I don’t think the Tiger 5 will be realistic for me but I could imagine a more-realistic 5 goals. Maybe:
5 GIR
3 saves
No three putts
No penalty strokes
Something else goes here.
Definitely No 3-Putts
No Penalty Strokes
and then add always getting the ball onto the green from inside 75 yards.
@@MarkImmelman I like it. Love your podcast btw!!!! 👍🏻👍🏻
So, the moral of the story is don't try to be a hero. Ego in check. Take the safest play to avoid the bogey, double bogey. And if you do make a mistake, make sure it's only a bogey. It's really insightful to learn that a birdie is nowhere near as good as a bogey is bad.
Scott is a golf savant!
Far from it. He had to do all of this research after his attempts to play professionally failed.
A savant would have figured it out the first time.
loved this episode. curious tho.. "recovering college golf coach" ? It also seemed like Scott was commenting negatively about college golf coaching? I'm not a college coach, didn't play in college, but might have a daughter on track to play golf in college. Is there an episode or one planned to expand on your's and Scott's comments about college golf coaching? I wonder why the negative perspective. Thanks.
I am a former college coach - would you be interested in listening to something about that genre?
@@MarkImmelman thx for the reply. Absolutely understand you were a college coach.. Yes, I for one would be interested, in a show from that perspective... and as someone from the outside, what gives you and others (like Scott) the less than positive perspective looking back on that experience. Perhaps, you were only joking, but still curious. Thanks, again.
@@christophercanfield107 Hank Haney has commented on it before. It's just a ton of drama. You have to play a lot of politics to get invitations to tournaments and stuff. There's also poaching players, backbiting, etc. It'd be a cool episode to listen to though, maybe he can get Casey Martin on or something.
The putting discussion was A+. So aim for 6 inches past the hole and if it’s short 30% of the time then tap it in and be happy you don’t three putt.
This system sounds great. I tried to buy it and the onboarding experience was not supported. I really wanted to use this. You make it too hard to get started.
What difficulties did you experience? I signed up a couple of weeks back for the 6 month FOUNDATIONS and found it quite easy. That being said the app and the guis aren't the best looking ever but the content is decent.
Always humble, Mark Immelman
Awesome from you both. I’ve had similar realisations to Fawcett. Avoid bad chips, hit irons solid to safe targets, drive well and focus on putting speed. These are the keys for most amateurs.
Oh and mindfulness meditation
Absolutely
Fantastic interview/ discussion
Great discussion.