‘And if they do care they’re idiots anyway’ 😂😂 I absolutely love this! When I was learning Dutch my friends kept saying I was pronouncing the G wrong, so I kept doing the hard G and then I met some people at carnaval in den Bosch and they were like why don’t you use the soft G it’s so much easier as you’re English so I switched haha
I’m learning Dutch and other Germanic languages and Latin languages, and from what I noticed, nowadays Dutch people that use the hard G seem to prefer speaking in English, because it’s much harder to pronounce Dutch words that have a G in them than it is to pronounce English words if one uses the hard G instead of the soft G - honestly, the G should be pronounced like a normal G or a normal G close to an H (without the typical throat clearing sound) aka an ultra soft or soft G, while the Rs should also be ultra soft in every language! The UI sound in Dutch is extremely difficult to pronounce tho - I would probably pronounce it like a normal AI sound without the French-like sound, as it’s so difficult to pronounce the I that way! I’ve been seriously learning Dutch over the past 2 weeks, and I am now intermediate level in Dutch, so I can understand most of the sentences teachers say in Dutch without the English sub, and I can even write lyrics in Dutch now - I also started learning Italian about 2 days ago, and it helps a lot that I can speak Spanish and Portuguese, as most of the words are similar!
@@thetrueoneandonlyladyprinc8038 anyone in the north netherlands will tell you that saying the hard g is easier and also makes it easier to chain constonants and vowels. I have no idea where you got the idea that people who speak with the hard g have difficulty with it
The cat related term only reflects me, and cannot be misused by hum’ns, and must be edited out - also, the hard G is NOT easy to produce or to figure out how to make it, and it doesn’t even sound good, so why the efd would anyone want to use the hard Gs, anwy... All I said is a fact. And, only oude ppl use the hard Gs, anwy - most younger ppl and most kids nowadays use softer Gs, thank dog!
I can easily do the soft Gs, and I use the softest Gs ever (the ultra soft G and the soft G) which sound very pretty and pleasant to the ear - I even tried to do the hard G (just to see what it sounds like in my voice and to see if I can do it, because I wouldn’t use a hard G when speaking, but it’s good to know how to do all the Gs tho) and, I still haven’t figured out how to do it without it sounding just like clearing my throat very harshly or screaming from my vocals, so yea, it just sounds funny, every time I attempt to make a hard G!
"They keep hurting their throat trying to master this sound" ... Dutch learners in a nutshell. hHahaah I can't practice Dutch for more than 20 minutes without having to stop because my throat hurts. haha
I’m learning Dutch and other Germanic languages and Latin languages, and from what I noticed, nowadays Dutch people that use the hard G seem to prefer speaking in English, because it’s much harder to pronounce Dutch words that have a G in them than it is to pronounce English words if one uses the hard G instead of the soft G - honestly, the G should be pronounced like a normal G or a normal G close to an H (without the typical throat clearing sound) aka an ultra soft or soft G, while the Rs should also be ultra soft in every language! The UI sound in Dutch is extremely difficult to pronounce tho - I would probably pronounce it like a normal AI sound without the French-like sound, as it’s so difficult to pronounce the I that way! I’ve been seriously learning Dutch over the past 2 weeks, and I am now intermediate level in Dutch, so I can understand most of the sentences teachers say in Dutch without the English sub, and I can even write lyrics in Dutch now - I also started learning Italian about 2 days ago, and it helps a lot that I can speak Spanish and Portuguese, as most of the words are similar!
Comment from a hard-G-er here: completely agree with you, it doesn't matter whether the G is hard or soft. For Dutch learners: better have a good soft-G than a bad hard-G. BTW, in the province of Gelderland most people have a soft-G, even though they are north of your red line!
As a person raised in the region of Den Bosch but studied in Nijmegen at university I can confirm this. Perhaps it's to do with the (temporary) migration of workers/students from south to north?
In third grade, when reading loud, we (in Haarlem) had to make a difference between "g" and "ch" as well (soft and hard). There is still a difference between "g" and "ch". "g" is pronounced much softer, also in the north.
The hard G is actually the part I like the most in the Dutch language :). On the other hand, I like the overall sound of Vlaams, and I’d like to be able to speak both the Standard Dutch and Flemish in the future
Keeps cutting to an image with an Irish flag in the middle just to confuse people as to the location. Video should have used the Dutch pronounciations of "Guinness" as an example.
This makes me wonder how much i could get away with (dialectal) german pronounciation. In german "gesellig" we would end with a soft g but the innitial one would be like an english g. In other words like "Tag" (dutch dag) its more like a hard g in non formal talk.
Your line is not that correct, the right side of the red line need to be lifted up caus in Nijmegen they all speak with the soft G (not talking about foreigns). I know the video is 4 years old but it is sad to see you placed the red line completely wrong.
Partially, the provinces of West Flanders and East Flanders (also French Flanders in France) don't use a soft g. They use a hard g, though one that's different from the Holland hard g. You didn't ask but the Afrikaanse language uses a hard G exclusively.
@@jebodeiasque to be more accurate, the 'hard' g in west and east flanders is more like a dutch H. So, I'm not certain it really sounds that hard (never really heard it to be honest, just happen to know the logistics) but it is categorised as a hard g.
You have no idea how thrilled I am that you showed us a different way one can pronounce the "G" !!!! ❤ Your videos are fantastic and I thank you so much for posting them. I know that I will have trouble with saying things like....Stand the glass on the table" as I am so used to saying...Put or set the glass on the table. But we have your lessons so there is hope. 😁👍 Thank you again for your videos!!!!
Thanks! It's really nice to hear that my videos are usefull to you. What more are you struggling with? Maybe I can make a video about it to clarify some things :)
Thanks for your entertaining and informative video! (I came across it while learning how to correctly pronounce Robert Gesink's name [champion Dutch cyclist].) Frankly, despite my love of the country and the culture, I have always found the language off-putting because I find the hard 'g' to be ugly. I didn't realize that some parts of the country and all of Flanders do not use it and look forward to listening carefully, the next time 'Professor T' (Flemish show) airs on PBS TV here in the U.S. Thanks again. Very interesting!
Hey Anirban! In the provinces Brabant and most of all Limburg you are guaranteed to encounter the soft G all the time. Think of the cities Maastricht, Breda and Den Bosch for example
Dank u wel. People from some parts of the world have more ease with the hard g. I for example find the soft g more difficult to pronounce, very weird almost pretentious!
Depends on your language, I am English and despite us being a related language we don't have those sort of throat sounds, I say G like H like they do in Belgium
I think they are equally difficult. already could say both- from exposure to German and Fremch (the French "air" which is the R. That one took work. I agree with you about the sexy sound of the soft g. That was my choice. And yet I found my g constantly corrected by northeners. Since I dont speak well I feltthey were trying to be helpful ao I would just switch my g. I would like to make a suggeation to improve your video. When you are apeaking of the Dutch pronumciation of the letter G then you should say the name of the letter in the Dutch way. I would like to find the international photetic alphabet symbols for those sounds: GEE and CHAY (both ways). From this man G sounds like fay or fey. th-cam.com/video/ZCA2DyqYvF0/w-d-xo.html
Hey, Thanks for your advice! Also I think it really depends on your mother language what G you find more convenient. The guy from the video clearly has the hard G. It dissapoints me to hear that people from the north feel like they should correct your G.
‘And if they do care they’re idiots anyway’ 😂😂 I absolutely love this! When I was learning Dutch my friends kept saying I was pronouncing the G wrong, so I kept doing the hard G and then I met some people at carnaval in den Bosch and they were like why don’t you use the soft G it’s so much easier as you’re English so I switched haha
The soft G sounds so good!
I’m learning Dutch and other Germanic languages and Latin languages, and from what I noticed, nowadays Dutch people that use the hard G seem to prefer speaking in English, because it’s much harder to pronounce Dutch words that have a G in them than it is to pronounce English words if one uses the hard G instead of the soft G - honestly, the G should be pronounced like a normal G or a normal G close to an H (without the typical throat clearing sound) aka an ultra soft or soft G, while the Rs should also be ultra soft in every language! The UI sound in Dutch is extremely difficult to pronounce tho - I would probably pronounce it like a normal AI sound without the French-like sound, as it’s so difficult to pronounce the I that way! I’ve been seriously learning Dutch over the past 2 weeks, and I am now intermediate level in Dutch, so I can understand most of the sentences teachers say in Dutch without the English sub, and I can even write lyrics in Dutch now - I also started learning Italian about 2 days ago, and it helps a lot that I can speak Spanish and Portuguese, as most of the words are similar!
@@thetrueoneandonlyladyprinc8038 anyone in the north netherlands will tell you that saying the hard g is easier and also makes it easier to chain constonants and vowels. I have no idea where you got the idea that people who speak with the hard g have difficulty with it
The cat related term only reflects me, and cannot be misused by hum’ns, and must be edited out - also, the hard G is NOT easy to produce or to figure out how to make it, and it doesn’t even sound good, so why the efd would anyone want to use the hard Gs, anwy... All I said is a fact. And, only oude ppl use the hard Gs, anwy - most younger ppl and most kids nowadays use softer Gs, thank dog!
I can easily do the soft Gs, and I use the softest Gs ever (the ultra soft G and the soft G) which sound very pretty and pleasant to the ear - I even tried to do the hard G (just to see what it sounds like in my voice and to see if I can do it, because I wouldn’t use a hard G when speaking, but it’s good to know how to do all the Gs tho) and, I still haven’t figured out how to do it without it sounding just like clearing my throat very harshly or screaming from my vocals, so yea, it just sounds funny, every time I attempt to make a hard G!
"They keep hurting their throat trying to master this sound" ... Dutch learners in a nutshell. hHahaah I can't practice Dutch for more than 20 minutes without having to stop because my throat hurts. haha
But now you know that you shouldn't!
I like how you made that hard G sound even harder than needed lol
For me, all the hard G's are pronounced harder than needed :)
Some pronounce the hard G even harder tho - the soft G sounds really good!
I’m learning Dutch and other Germanic languages and Latin languages, and from what I noticed, nowadays Dutch people that use the hard G seem to prefer speaking in English, because it’s much harder to pronounce Dutch words that have a G in them than it is to pronounce English words if one uses the hard G instead of the soft G - honestly, the G should be pronounced like a normal G or a normal G close to an H (without the typical throat clearing sound) aka an ultra soft or soft G, while the Rs should also be ultra soft in every language! The UI sound in Dutch is extremely difficult to pronounce tho - I would probably pronounce it like a normal AI sound without the French-like sound, as it’s so difficult to pronounce the I that way! I’ve been seriously learning Dutch over the past 2 weeks, and I am now intermediate level in Dutch, so I can understand most of the sentences teachers say in Dutch without the English sub, and I can even write lyrics in Dutch now - I also started learning Italian about 2 days ago, and it helps a lot that I can speak Spanish and Portuguese, as most of the words are similar!
Exactly like come on, no wonder your throat hurts if you go so exaggeratedly hard.
Comment from a hard-G-er here: completely agree with you, it doesn't matter whether the G is hard or soft. For Dutch learners: better have a good soft-G than a bad hard-G. BTW, in the province of Gelderland most people have a soft-G, even though they are north of your red line!
Apparently there is also a medium G, because your hard G went through the roof.
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Nijmegen, land of Maas en Waal and the southern part of the Achterhoek also (traditionally) have a soft G instead of a hard G
Indeed. And if you go back far enough, they even spoke with the soft G in Amsterdam!
As a person raised in the region of Den Bosch but studied in Nijmegen at university I can confirm this.
Perhaps it's to do with the (temporary) migration of workers/students from south to north?
You saved my throat! Thanks!
May many throats be saved!
@@dutchclass1020 lmaoo
the cool side club!
You know what? I too will call it the cool part.
I learned Spanish from my French mothertongue so soft g is very hard to do for me, but hard g is easier since it feels similar to the Spanish j.
That's the main message of my video: Don't force one G or the other, but use what works for you :)
Nobody pronounces "the hard G" as rediculous as you just did. LOL :D
It's exaggerated for educational purposes :)
In third grade, when reading loud, we (in Haarlem) had to make a difference between "g" and "ch" as well (soft and hard). There is still a difference between "g" and "ch". "g" is pronounced much softer, also in the north.
The soft Dutch G still doesn't sound like the English G.
It would have made your story stronger if you had included Flanders.
that dutch accent in that english tough
I support this message
The hard G is actually the part I like the most in the Dutch language :). On the other hand, I like the overall sound of Vlaams, and I’d like to be able to speak both the Standard Dutch and Flemish in the future
YEAHHHHHHH THE COOL PART MANNNNN
Keeps cutting to an image with an Irish flag in the middle just to confuse people as to the location.
Video should have used the Dutch pronounciations of "Guinness" as an example.
It's not hard to me, idk what is hard on it
I'm from the south-west of the red line (Zeeland) and there "g" is pronounced as an aspirated "h" and the letter "h" is not pronounced at all!
Ukrainians still use hard G and also depending on the city they use the soft G too.
This makes me wonder how much i could get away with (dialectal) german pronounciation.
In german "gesellig" we would end with a soft g but the innitial one would be like an english g.
In other words like "Tag" (dutch dag) its more like a hard g in non formal talk.
hahaha the cool part, i agree
And don't forget: Ik heb een zachte G ... maar ook een harde L.
So is Cody Gakpo pronounced like Hackpo?
Gakpo is not a Dutch name so I not sure what the correct pronuncation is.
Ik ben DUTCH het is echt een leuke taal om te leren
Your line is not that correct, the right side of the red line need to be lifted up caus in Nijmegen they all speak with the soft G (not talking about foreigns). I know the video is 4 years old but it is sad to see you placed the red line completely wrong.
Do they use soft G in Flanders?
Partially, the provinces of West Flanders and East Flanders (also French Flanders in France) don't use a soft g. They use a hard g, though one that's different from the Holland hard g.
You didn't ask but the Afrikaanse language uses a hard G exclusively.
@@bz7672 Dank u wel!
@@jebodeiasque to be more accurate, the 'hard' g in west and east flanders is more like a dutch H. So, I'm not certain it really sounds that hard (never really heard it to be honest, just happen to know the logistics) but it is categorised as a hard g.
You have no idea how thrilled I am that you showed us a different way one can pronounce the "G" !!!! ❤
Your videos are fantastic and I thank you so much for posting them.
I know that I will have trouble with saying things like....Stand the glass on the table" as I am so used to saying...Put or set the glass on the table.
But we have your lessons so there is hope. 😁👍
Thank you again for your videos!!!!
Thanks! It's really nice to hear that my videos are usefull to you. What more are you struggling with? Maybe I can make a video about it to clarify some things :)
Thanks for your entertaining and informative video! (I came across it while learning how to correctly pronounce Robert Gesink's name [champion Dutch cyclist].) Frankly, despite my love of the country and the culture, I have always found the language off-putting because I find the hard 'g' to be ugly. I didn't realize that some parts of the country and all of Flanders do not use it and look forward to listening carefully, the next time 'Professor T' (Flemish show) airs on PBS TV here in the U.S. Thanks again. Very interesting!
Hey I'll be moving to the south of The Netherlands, could you tell where to listen and practise words with soft G? Thanks!
Hey Anirban! In the provinces Brabant and most of all Limburg you are guaranteed to encounter the soft G all the time. Think of the cities Maastricht, Breda and Den Bosch for example
Dankjewel voor de mooie les!
Love it!
Thank you so much for this video. I am really struggling in pronouncing G. 😊
South of the red line = reservebelgen :-) (I'm Belgian)
Thx!
You are welcome!
THANK YOU !!!!!!!! ❤❤❤❤
I'm saaaaved! Hahahaha 🤣🙌
Dank u wel. People from some parts of the world have more ease with the hard g. I for example find the soft g more difficult to pronounce, very weird almost pretentious!
Depends on your language, I am English and despite us being a related language we don't have those sort of throat sounds, I say G like H like they do in Belgium
Too soft for me bro
lmao, good video
Thanks!
And the funniest thing is that may name is pronounced with the "hard g" and the kept pronouncing it wrong, because is a J and not a G. Dikkop!
Yeeeahhh I'm sexy and I know it
Nee, ik weet echt niet hoe ik die zachte g ga gebruiken ik blijf wel bij de harde haha
Je moet sowieso doen wat voor jou het beste werkt!
@@dutchclass1020 ik woon in brabant en kan niet eens een harde g😅😂
lol
I think they are equally difficult. already could say both- from exposure to German and Fremch (the French "air" which is the R. That one took work.
I agree with you about the sexy sound of the soft g. That was my choice. And yet I found my g constantly corrected by northeners.
Since I dont speak well I feltthey were trying to be helpful ao I would just switch my g.
I would like to make a suggeation to improve your video. When you are apeaking of the Dutch pronumciation of the letter G then you should say the name of the letter in the Dutch way.
I would like to find the international photetic alphabet symbols for those sounds: GEE and CHAY (both ways).
From this man G sounds like fay or fey. th-cam.com/video/ZCA2DyqYvF0/w-d-xo.html
Hey, Thanks for your advice! Also I think it really depends on your mother language what G you find more convenient.
The guy from the video clearly has the hard G. It dissapoints me to hear that people from the north feel like they should correct your G.
The phonetic symbols should be ⟨ç⟩ (voiceless palatal fricative) and ⟨x̟⟩ (voiceless velar fricative) or ⟨χ⟩ (voiceless uvular fricative).
But exactly with hard G sounds cool for me that's why i wanna learn hard G🥲
Then learn to use the place of your mouth that is back but not so much if you still can’t make it ;P