As the co-organiser of Andre Bertel Sensei's SA 2019 Seminar, I would like to extend my most sincere thanks and appreciation to Andre Sensei for giving so freely of his knowledge and expertise. In short, Andre Sensei is a dynamic and highly-skilled teacher as well as an incredibly humble karateka. The huge amount of preparation and effort which he puts into his Seminars is testament to his level of professionalism. It is therefore unsurprising to me, and deservedly so, that the demand for his International Seminars is on the increase. For any group wanting to experience Shotokan Karate as a true form of Japanese Budo, I can highly recommend Andre Sensei - without question he is one of Shotokan's leading contemporary masters. - Gary Grapentin
Gary Grapentin Sensei, thank you so much for your kind words and hosting for a second time. I was deeply impressed by the approach of USR for giving full freedom to its members and really focusing on the lifting of peoples Karate ability. This, to me in an organizational sense, is returning karate to its origins. I am 100% that the USR will succeed and build very strong Budo Karate in South Africa; furthermore, foster wonderful friendships without all the political power baggage. Greetings and thanks again from Oita city Japan, Andre
Thank you for posting your karate to TH-cam so that karateka all around the world can get ideas for training and be inspired to raise their level! Oss!! 🙏👊
Sensei Andre Bertel is one of the best karatekas in the world. The kata tekki shudan is amazing, technical and powerfull. I hope to see you in Belgium soon
I might be wrong but from what i have gathered is that while Bertels style might seem odd to some modern practitioners of Karate. This style is actually more faithful to the original style of Karate that was practicised at Okinawa which was a more combat oriented style with different kinds of joint twisting and locking movements involved in it. The current styles of Karate seem to be designed around Karate as a sport rather than as a way of trying to end the fight as quickly as possible.
Anytime Brother keep your spirit strong as well as your physical body and your heart if you stay true to the mantra of the Kyokushin karate dojo kun and the shotokun karate dojo kun. You will go far once you are dead physically men do not die no on has ever seen a dead man only dead physical bodies exist not dead men including "wo"man!!!!! So Sosai oyama mother did not raise an idiot that is for sure Andre bertel. You can get a master's degree at University in Cognitive science or study the ctmu on you tube by Christopher Langan I.Q 210 in America Ultra high I.Q Genius There are things I can not say here as the enemy watch's but let me repeat sosai oyama had it upstairs he was very switched on. So let's conclude all earthly human beings are at the Quontum level Not physical we are spirits and we have new bodies and new lives and no end nothing ever ceases to exist the essence is always preserved. OSU Shane Irish and Hebrew meaning God is Gracious Gift from God. Gracious means courteous kind and pleasant especially towards someone of a lower social status.
Except his stances, are typical Shotokan way to far apart to be Okinawan. He also does snap punches to make the GI Pop!, Not a karate strike. Also he shows a What he calls Block then strikes, that is not a martial art way. Techniques have to be simultaneously, also you would never block an opponent, there are no blocks in Karate, so called blocking is pointless.
THANKS SO MUCH FOR THE AWESOME FEEDBACK FROM ALL WHO ATTENDED IN SOUTH AFRICA!!!! Looking forward to hearing more. A few more things will come later. Also, for those coming to my seminar in DRESDEN, GERMANY, see you next weekend!!! For more information about upcoming events in Japan or around the world, please visit my site: www.andrebertel.blogspot.com or you can email me at: andrebertelono@gmail.com Greetings from Oita City, Japan. OSU, Andre Bertel
Hi 👋 from India. Watching your videos I realized Shotokan Karate is for self defence and not for sport like MMA. The techiques you show can be used for self defence and for combat situation. I have become a shotokan fan. Will be joining shotokan class very shortly. Your style is pure Karate- Powerful movements and deadly strikes. Defeat the guy with one blow. Hope to see in India Kerala state.
Thank you very much! Looking forward to giving the next seminar in South Africa as soon as possible. Its going to be a great event and I think ,even better, as I have to make up for lost time!!! OSU and greetings from IKS (Oita City, Japan). Andre Bertel
Very unique but effective technik. Your speed is just insane. I'll have to practice quiet a bit more to get up to that Also, just how old ist this belt?😅 It literaly looks like a white belt
A couple of my very good friends were close to Oyama Masutatsu. One, Renzie Hanham Hanshi was featured in one of his textbooks. Renzie is not only man but a super bloke who I always enjoy with. I was also trained with Bobby Lowe in Hawaii and hung out with him and Bob McCallum in New Zealand. Good times! Karate Family OSU
@@andrebertel You are very quick Andre as Bruce Lee was your shotokun karate is so perfect you really have mastered your Martial Art Shotokun keep going I will follow on you tube I give credit were credit is due you got a bit of Bruce Lee DNA in you I think dam fast you are Andre I was trained by hanshi John Taylor 9th dan Kyokushin karate back in the 1980's always remember we are all "Spiritual beings" so we are immortals. Everyman's journey Cross's this Path. And everyman see's death in his own mirror. The soul all ways see's ! Sosai mas oyama It does not end. It goes on from one time to another ! Nothing ever dies that was something. The Spirit is on a journey of discovery one the body becomes too feebal to sustain life it is time too move on then the spirit departs the old body and enters a New body and Life goes On so death is a fiction Andre dead physical bodies are real however no one has ever seen a dead man before dead men do not exist. Only dead bodies are seen. Sosai oyama would have been very proud of you he got to fourth dan black belt in shotokun karate keep going Brother keep going OSU Shane Fordham Pain is an Emotion !
@@shaneroberg309 Thank you very much. I briefly cross trained in Kyokushin between 1988 and 1991 (not regularly, but a few months here and there). I found the kata really difficult as they were so different from Shotokan. But I greatly enjoyed the Kyokushin style of kumite and conditioning. Overall, a great experience and I made several life friends. My friend, Uehara Sensei here in Oita is a former elite Kyokushin competitor. We share very similar views about karate. Thank you very much for taking the time to watch and message me. Osu and greetings from Japan. Andre
He studied under funakoshi and then founded kyokushin. I hate that we have infighting between styles now. We all should learn and adapt our karate from eachother. Just as the masters did
Er unterrichted. Er hat mehrmals bewiesen, dass er bewegliche Ziele genauso hart trifft und ausknocken kann. Und ich bin überzeugt, du möchtest kein solches Ziel sein, welches von einem solchen Schlag getroffen wird. Das ist Budokarate. Gemacht, um im Ernstfall schlimmen Schaden anzurichten.
Our thoughts and prayers are with the Islamic community in Christchurch New Zealand, especially the families and friends of the victims, also those still fighting to survive. I am so disgusted by this hate crime, no words can describe. Such cowardly evil human beings will never stop good people (the vast majority of people around the world) nor change hearts: human history clearly and consistently elucidates that. So while they may kill and hurt others so deeply, they are the losers-the scum-of world history.
@@andrebertel2063 Hello Mr Bertel; the other day I was thinking about that due to here the JKA separated from other association some 15 years ago or more so my exams, grade etc now that I am trying to do an exam are not valid hence I need to "start" all over again...so, my doubt is if you want to proceed with an exam for the highest rank etc. You do not have any to take you the exam...Of course an exam is not a point in your case; you can follow your own path, after all these years training hard in Japan and with a great teacher like Mr Asai. Thank you
I've lost teeth in my life fighting, and have lots of scars in my hands from other peoples teeth. Look closely at my bent fingers and twisted toes. Thanks for watching the video and commenting.
I agree stop cheap shooting your students. In karate the students respect the teacher but the teacher shouldn't cheap shot them because they are lower grades who show respect and restraint.
When I first saw your videos I was impressed by your spirit and technique. But the more I look the more it seems you want to show off your skills by beating up students on your seminars. They let you demonstrate your waza and you seem to enjoy striking them with a bit too much force then actually necessary for the demonstration. I for one would respect you more if your teaching was a bit more humble. And I’m not referring to the post beating handshake and bow. Osu.
No blood was drawn and no one was doubled over in pain, so what's the problem? Shotokan Karate isn't air karate, a bit of contact is good. I think Bertel Sensei shows great control whilst showing a technique's desired impact, the man is a Budo Karateka through and through.
The concept of control in true budo is to move as powerfully as possible and impact without causing any damage (when training with partners). Touching without explosive speed and power is not control nor related to martial arts. Please learn about 'SUN DOME' so your can practice and recieve techniques which are safe but can be immediately adapted to cause maximum damage outside of the dojo. All the best from Japan.
André never uses too much force with his students, he adjusts precisely for the person that he's working with. If you had a better eye for karate you should be able to see the control he's using in every one of these cases that, were it not applied, the student would be seriously harmed. I trained with André for around 15 years, & have never seen him injure a student. If you had an understanding of his actual level of skill, you would realise that he is one of the most humble karateka you will ever encounter
AFAIK, "sundome" is about self-control and controlling the technique, stopping just before impact. One should move at full force and speed and have so much control that the opponent is not affected. Similar to swinging a sword and stopping just before cutting an apple, the closer the technique is to full force and the closer you get to the skin of the apple the better. Is that correct?
Strait attack’s when a person is standing still. I get it it’s for demo. this would work in a street situation or against one who doesn’t no self defense. But A boxer, wrestler, jujitsu or Mma it wound not be to effective. Either-way it’s An Amazing art.
C'est pour renseigner qu'on fait ça c'est pareil en judo c'est pareil dans tous les sports. On fait la forme la plus simple et puis après on la met en pratique dans un combat réel. Tu as commencé par apprendre à conduire avant d'apprendre à piloter. C'est une forme d'apprentissage qu'il y a partout où tu as commencé à apprendre les lettres avant d'apprendre à écrire. C'est étonnant que tu ne comprennes pas ça.
Tell the truth....After 5th dan called SHIHAN(allow to teach KARATE to other student) and Mas Oyama couldn't get 5th dan(He reach up to 4th dan) that why he left SHOTO-KAN and decided to lived in mountain for one and half years. After he returnd from mountain, he suddenly created himself KYOKUSIN and called himself 10th dan. However, non of other KARATE KA approved and accepted it. Black Belt must given by his Master and should not called himself 10th black belt...Period👽👽👽
I agree, but I’m not following your message. I’m sorry I’m confused by your post. Also, I personally respect all styles. That includes Oyama/Kyokushin karate. I am 100% Shotokan but think differences are strengths. Kindest regards from Japan
@@andrebertel I understand your point, however, if you read MAS OYAMA's books( he wrote more than 10 books in japanese and I read all of them. and I surprised that he Criticized most of other MA such as Kun-fu,Tai-kon-do, Aikido, Shourinji-kenpo even he criticized Shouto-kan Karate. and other RYU-HA. Do you think, this is right attitude for BUDO-KA??? Well well well, I forgot to tell you that I am japanese. Very truly yours⛩⛩
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I have trained all around and Andre Bertel is one of the best I have ever seen.
As the co-organiser of Andre Bertel Sensei's SA 2019 Seminar, I would like to extend my most sincere thanks and appreciation to Andre Sensei for giving so freely of his knowledge and expertise. In short, Andre Sensei is a dynamic and highly-skilled teacher as well as an incredibly humble karateka. The huge amount of preparation and effort which he puts into his Seminars is testament to his level of professionalism. It is therefore unsurprising to me, and deservedly so, that the demand for his International Seminars is on the increase. For any group wanting to experience Shotokan Karate as a true form of Japanese Budo, I can highly recommend Andre Sensei - without question he is one of Shotokan's leading contemporary masters. - Gary Grapentin
Gary Grapentin Sensei, thank you so much for your kind words and hosting for a second time. I was deeply impressed by the approach of USR for giving full freedom to its members and really focusing on the lifting of peoples Karate ability. This, to me in an organizational sense, is returning karate to its origins. I am 100% that the USR will succeed and build very strong Budo Karate in South Africa; furthermore, foster wonderful friendships without all the political power baggage.
Greetings and thanks again from Oita city Japan, Andre
@@andrebertel Bertel vs Naka sensei? Winner?
Thank you for posting your karate to TH-cam so that karateka all around the world can get ideas for training and be inspired to raise their level! Oss!! 🙏👊
It is the real karate. I look for such a style like this for a long time
Poetry in motion. Love watching Andre .
Sensei Andre Bertel is one of the best karatekas in the world. The kata tekki shudan is amazing, technical and powerfull. I hope to see you in Belgium soon
Congratulations Andre Bertel Sensei for his high level Karate! I hope you come to Brazil soon!
Perhaps in the future a federation in Brazil will bring me over,. Your never know! Osu
I might be wrong but from what i have gathered is that while Bertels style might seem odd to some modern practitioners of Karate. This style is actually more faithful to the original style of Karate that was practicised at Okinawa which was a more combat oriented style with different kinds of joint twisting and locking movements involved in it. The current styles of Karate seem to be designed around Karate as a sport rather than as a way of trying to end the fight as quickly as possible.
Anytime Brother keep your spirit strong as well as your physical body and your heart if you stay true to the mantra of the Kyokushin karate dojo kun and the shotokun karate dojo kun.
You will go far once you are dead physically men do not die no on has ever seen a dead man only dead physical bodies exist not dead men including "wo"man!!!!!
So Sosai oyama mother did not raise an idiot that is for sure Andre bertel.
You can get a master's degree at University in Cognitive science or study the ctmu on you tube by Christopher Langan I.Q 210 in America Ultra high I.Q Genius
There are things I can not say here as the enemy watch's but let me repeat sosai oyama had it upstairs he was very switched on.
So let's conclude all earthly human beings are at the Quontum level Not physical we are spirits and we have new bodies and new lives and no end nothing ever ceases to exist the essence is always preserved.
OSU Shane Irish and Hebrew meaning God is Gracious Gift from God.
Gracious means courteous kind and pleasant especially towards someone of a lower social status.
Except his stances, are typical Shotokan way to far apart to be Okinawan. He also does snap punches to make the GI Pop!, Not a karate strike. Also he shows a What he calls Block then strikes, that is not a martial art way. Techniques have to be simultaneously, also you would never block an opponent, there are no blocks in Karate, so called blocking is pointless.
THANKS SO MUCH FOR THE AWESOME FEEDBACK FROM ALL WHO ATTENDED IN SOUTH AFRICA!!!! Looking forward to hearing more. A few more things will come later.
Also, for those coming to my seminar in DRESDEN, GERMANY, see you next weekend!!!
For more information about upcoming events in Japan or around the world, please visit my site: www.andrebertel.blogspot.com or you can email me at: andrebertelono@gmail.com
Greetings from Oita City, Japan.
OSU, Andre Bertel
why the hell are there over 70 dislikes???? this man is an absolute master - great karate
All the dislikes proof that malakes everywhere
Envy people
Maybe some of those who don't like him know things that you do not. Choose your heroes carefully.
They're mad they'll never be as good as him.
Sensei, I was so sorry to hear about the recent tragedy in NZ. I pray all is well with you and your family. OSU!
Hi 👋 from India. Watching your videos I realized Shotokan Karate is for self defence and not for sport like MMA. The techiques you show can be used for self defence and for combat situation. I have become a shotokan fan. Will be joining shotokan class very shortly. Your style is pure Karate- Powerful movements and deadly strikes. Defeat the guy with one blow.
Hope to see in India Kerala state.
I do both shotokan and mma. Saying mma is just sport clearly you are so ignorant.
Okay. Will study about it. Thanks for the info
La plupart des coups sont interdits en MMA.
Andre Bertel: Please come to The Netherlands.
Immensely inspiring Sensei. Would love to attend one of your seminars. Osu.
Thank you very much! Looking forward to giving the next seminar in South Africa as soon as possible.
Its going to be a great event and I think ,even better, as I have to make up for lost time!!!
OSU and greetings from IKS (Oita City, Japan).
Andre Bertel
The magnific Andre.....Osuu
Best sensei ever seen
I'm hype for the german Seminar in Dresden
Oss! Sensei Bertel. Another great video.
desde argentina sos un crak sensei mis respetos
Your videos are awesome, I hope you come to Austria one day. Oss
Where do you regulary teach? I would love to do at least one lesson with you. A more practícal karate and not so teorical karate.
I still practice karate about 3 years after I left in club so I want to see more video like that to learn by myseft !
لماذا لا تأتي إلى الجزائر لعمل تربصات فنية للرياضيين من فضلك سيدي
Very unique but effective technik.
Your speed is just insane. I'll have to practice quiet a bit more to get up to that
Also, just how old ist this belt?😅
It literaly looks like a white belt
KYOKUSHIN KARATE FOUNDER SOSAI MAS OYAMA 10TH DAN BLACK BELT WAS ALSO A FOURTH/4TH DAN IN SHOTOKUN KARATE AND IN GOJO RU KARATE.
A couple of my very good friends were close to Oyama Masutatsu. One, Renzie Hanham Hanshi was featured in one of his textbooks. Renzie is not only man but a super bloke who I always enjoy with.
I was also trained with Bobby Lowe in Hawaii and hung out with him and Bob McCallum in New Zealand. Good times!
Karate Family
OSU
@@andrebertel You are very quick Andre as Bruce Lee was your shotokun karate is so perfect you really have mastered your Martial Art Shotokun keep going I will follow on you tube I give credit were credit is due you got a bit of Bruce Lee DNA in you I think dam fast you are Andre I was trained by hanshi John Taylor 9th dan Kyokushin karate back in the 1980's always remember we are all "Spiritual beings" so we are immortals.
Everyman's journey Cross's this Path.
And everyman see's death in his own mirror.
The soul all ways see's !
Sosai mas oyama
It does not end.
It goes on from one time to another !
Nothing ever dies that was something.
The Spirit is on a journey of discovery one the body becomes too feebal to sustain life it is time too move on then the spirit departs the old body and enters a New body and Life goes On so death is a fiction Andre dead physical bodies are real however no one has ever seen a dead man before dead men do not exist.
Only dead bodies are seen.
Sosai oyama would have been very proud of you he got to fourth dan black belt in shotokun karate keep going Brother keep going OSU
Shane Fordham
Pain is an Emotion !
@@shaneroberg309 Thank you very much. I briefly cross trained in Kyokushin between 1988 and 1991 (not regularly, but a few months here and there).
I found the kata really difficult as they were so different from Shotokan. But I greatly enjoyed the Kyokushin style of kumite and conditioning. Overall, a great experience and I made several life friends.
My friend, Uehara Sensei here in Oita is a former elite Kyokushin competitor. We share very similar views about karate.
Thank you very much for taking the time to watch and message me.
Osu and greetings from Japan.
Andre
He studied under funakoshi and then founded kyokushin. I hate that we have infighting between styles now. We all should learn and adapt our karate from eachother. Just as the masters did
@@DoomGuy-kf8fv Nothing ever ceases to "exist" the essence is always preserved!!!!!
Osu
Oss sensei bertel very good
Fast, and powerfull, and good kick
The best shotokan man ever Sihan Bertel
Sibo I see you with great Sensei Andre
Parabéns Sensei André Bertel. Oss
hello from algeria
Come to Berlin ;-)
Schön wenn man auf stehende Ziele einschlagen kann :-)
Er unterrichted. Er hat mehrmals bewiesen, dass er bewegliche Ziele genauso hart trifft und ausknocken kann. Und ich bin überzeugt, du möchtest kein solches Ziel sein, welches von einem solchen Schlag getroffen wird. Das ist Budokarate. Gemacht, um im Ernstfall schlimmen Schaden anzurichten.
Oss senseï. I need your mail please
Cool sir 👍
Numero uno.
Muito bom!
OSS!
Our thoughts and prayers are with the Islamic community in Christchurch New Zealand, especially the families and friends of the victims, also those still fighting to survive. I am so disgusted by this hate crime, no words can describe. Such cowardly evil human beings will never stop good people (the vast majority of people around the world) nor change hearts: human history clearly and consistently elucidates that. So while they may kill and hurt others so deeply, they are the losers-the scum-of world history.
I would love for you to be my karate teacher.i'm your biggest fan sri lankan child lolitha herath .youre my hero in my karate life
Best wishes in your endeavors. A big OSU from Japan
Ok, osu
muito bom
What Shotokan organization are you apart of currently?
hanzodragon1
My own organization-IKS-International Karate Shotokan
@@andrebertel2063 Hello Mr Bertel; the other day I was thinking about that due to here the JKA separated from other association some 15 years ago or more so my exams, grade etc now that I am trying to do an exam are not valid hence I need to "start" all over again...so, my doubt is if you want to proceed with an exam for the highest rank etc. You do not have any to take you the exam...Of course an exam is not a point in your case; you can follow your own path, after all these years training hard in Japan and with a great teacher like Mr Asai. Thank you
❤️😍
👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
I didn't recognise him initially with that beard
nice
Ouss sansey gracias
Good sir , me Hu sskheladi Babu 1ht dan
Hey sir
But is a good master of tradition Karate!
Sein bester Clip
He likes to knot another guys!
Oss sensai we miss Asai shihan.
He is a good athlete in excellent shape, but still mainly does sport karate Shotokan.
He likes to wack people how many real fights has he had in the street when someone smashes him in the mouth.
I've lost teeth in my life fighting, and have lots of scars in my hands from other peoples teeth. Look closely at my bent fingers and twisted toes. Thanks for watching the video and commenting.
I agree stop cheap shooting your students.
In karate the students respect the teacher but the teacher shouldn't cheap shot them because they are lower grades who show respect and restraint.
Osuuuu
When I first saw your videos I was impressed by your spirit and technique.
But the more I look the more it seems you want to show off your skills by beating up students on your seminars. They let you demonstrate your waza and you seem to enjoy striking them with a bit too much force then actually necessary for the demonstration. I for one would respect you more if your teaching was a bit more humble. And I’m not referring to the post beating handshake and bow.
Osu.
No blood was drawn and no one was doubled over in pain, so what's the problem?
Shotokan Karate isn't air karate, a bit of contact is good.
I think Bertel Sensei shows great control whilst showing a technique's desired impact, the man is a Budo Karateka through and through.
You think he “beats up his students”? You think he should care if “you’ll respect him more”, random anonymous TH-cam viewer? Hahahahahahahahaha!!!!
The concept of control in true budo is to move as powerfully as possible and impact without causing any damage (when training with partners). Touching without explosive speed and power is not control nor related to martial arts. Please learn about 'SUN DOME' so your can practice and recieve techniques which are safe but can be immediately adapted to cause maximum damage outside of the dojo. All the best from Japan.
André never uses too much force with his students, he adjusts precisely for the person that he's working with. If you had a better eye for karate you should be able to see the control he's using in every one of these cases that, were it not applied, the student would be seriously harmed.
I trained with André for around 15 years, & have never seen him injure a student. If you had an understanding of his actual level of skill, you would realise that he is one of the most humble karateka you will ever encounter
AFAIK, "sundome" is about self-control and controlling the technique, stopping just before impact. One should move at full force and speed and have so much control that the opponent is not affected. Similar to swinging a sword and stopping just before cutting an apple, the closer the technique is to full force and the closer you get to the skin of the apple the better. Is that correct?
Looks nice with s opponent standing still, try it with a real fighter!
Strait attack’s when a person is standing still. I get it it’s for demo. this would work in a street situation or against one who doesn’t no self defense. But A boxer, wrestler, jujitsu or Mma it wound not be to effective. Either-way it’s An Amazing art.
C'est pour renseigner qu'on fait ça c'est pareil en judo c'est pareil dans tous les sports. On fait la forme la plus simple et puis après on la met en pratique dans un combat réel. Tu as commencé par apprendre à conduire avant d'apprendre à piloter. C'est une forme d'apprentissage qu'il y a partout où tu as commencé à apprendre les lettres avant d'apprendre à écrire.
C'est étonnant que tu ne comprennes pas ça.
Tell the truth....After 5th dan called SHIHAN(allow to teach KARATE to other student) and Mas Oyama couldn't get 5th dan(He reach up to 4th dan)
that why he left SHOTO-KAN and decided to lived in mountain for one and half years. After he returnd from mountain, he suddenly created himself KYOKUSIN and called himself 10th dan. However, non of other KARATE KA approved and accepted it. Black Belt must given by his Master and should not called himself 10th black belt...Period👽👽👽
I agree, but I’m not following your message. I’m sorry I’m confused by your post. Also, I personally respect all styles. That includes Oyama/Kyokushin karate. I am 100% Shotokan but think differences are strengths.
Kindest regards from Japan
@@andrebertel I understand your point, however, if you read MAS OYAMA's books( he wrote more than 10 books in japanese and I read all of them. and I surprised that he Criticized most of other MA such as Kun-fu,Tai-kon-do, Aikido, Shourinji-kenpo even he criticized Shouto-kan Karate. and other RYU-HA. Do you think, this is right attitude for BUDO-KA??? Well well well, I forgot to tell you that I am japanese. Very truly yours⛩⛩
Over sound making.. Either do tradtion nor sports... It is traspo style... Boring
Shut up loser
@@renato7184 bull shit... Dog shit