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  • On 21 December 1988, Pan Am Flight 103 from London to New York exploded 38 minutes after take-off.
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    Donald MacCormick presents a Newsnight special on 22 December 1988, after a Pan Am plane crashes into the Scottish town of Lockerbie.
    The 259 people on board were killed, along with 11 people on the ground.
    At the time of broadcast, the cause of the crash was still unknown.
    Libyan intelligence officer Abdelbaset al-Megrahi was convicted of the bombing in 2001.
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  • @teddy1066
    @teddy1066 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    I was supposed to be on this flight. Economy class, seat 27A.
    I changed my reservation five days prior. I know I am fortunate, but it’s always weighed heavily on me.
    God bless all the victims of PanAm103 and the 11 Lockerbie villagers who died.

  • @deemariedubois4916
    @deemariedubois4916 4 ปีที่แล้ว +411

    How I miss such professional reporting. The difference between this and what we suffer through today is unbelievable.

    • @adrianaprosen2918
      @adrianaprosen2918 4 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      When England was... well... English.

    • @edwardalexander9486
      @edwardalexander9486 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Agree - is it something in the water today? But yet see Bush flounder and Malcolm Rifkind being totally authoratative. Unfortunately... we don't have anyone of Rifkind's calibre here in the UK at the mo and Bush sounds like a towering intellectual compared to trump.

    • @JL-qo1hg
      @JL-qo1hg 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Ya, no political bias. Just the news ma'am

    • @jacksugden8190
      @jacksugden8190 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      At 40 years on continued with a political lightweight presenter presenter Emily Maitless who once presented BBC London News, not keen on the new formate at all after the 2010 format was dropped, worst its ever been.

    • @HighlandCall
      @HighlandCall 4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      @@adrianaprosen2918 that famous English town of Lockerbie

  • @9Ballr
    @9Ballr ปีที่แล้ว +49

    Denice O'Neill, age 21, was on Pan Am Flight 103. She lived across the hall from me at Hampshire College in Amherst, Massachusetts, and used to come over and watch TV in the evenings with me and my roommates. She was a pre-med student and was returning to the U.S. after working for two and a half months at a hospital in Nigeria. She was in seat 38K.

    • @09weenic
      @09weenic 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      May she rest in peace ❤

    • @daleth5145
      @daleth5145 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Sorry for the loss.😔

    • @54spatula
      @54spatula 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Hopefully she didn’t suffer. Sorry x

    • @louise_running
      @louise_running 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi- I'm so sorry for your loss.
      I stumbled across your comment while researching the Lockerbie bombing. I'm doing a project on it in school. I have some questions about it, as I'm trying to represent it in the most accurate way. Could I ask you them? It would mean a lot. If not, God bless.

    • @9Ballr
      @9Ballr 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@louise_runningHello, you can ask but I have no special knowledge about the bombing, so I don't know that I would be of much help.

  • @silversteel6312
    @silversteel6312 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    No bells. No whistles. Straight forward reporting. Broadcasting halcyon days indeed.

  • @DonWan47
    @DonWan47 2 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    My unit was dispatched to aid in the search for debris and bodies. Many still carry the trauma to this day.

    • @user-mc5zg7gx5g
      @user-mc5zg7gx5g ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I suffered very, very much for these innocent civilians, the victims. It was a very painful scene. The real perpetrator of this heinous crime must be held accountable. The state of Iran is the real perpetrator of this crime, and there is a lot of evidence for that.

    • @louise_running
      @louise_running 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I stumbled across your comment while researching the Lockerbie bombing. I'm doing a project on it in school. I have some questions about it, as I'm trying to represent it in the most accurate way, especially on a mental level. Could I ask you them? It would mean a lot. If not, God bless.

    • @DonWan47
      @DonWan47 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@louise_running Sure, no problem. Do you have an email address or Twitter etc?

    • @stephenholmes1036
      @stephenholmes1036 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      As a former railway incident response officer i agree

    • @DonWan47
      @DonWan47 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Sam-mn4ed ?

  • @Warrenpoint714
    @Warrenpoint714 4 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    Rest in peace, you won't be forgotten.

    • @DianaKazimiera-
      @DianaKazimiera- ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Amen 🕊️🕯️
      Great respect 🕊️🕯️🥀

  • @msstaypositiveallthetime7456
    @msstaypositiveallthetime7456 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    My god mother was on the flight and lost her life. I remembered my mother was frantically calling around screaming because she knew that my god mother was scheduled to fly back into the United States. Once her death was confirmed I never heard my mother scream in pain so loud like she did when officials confirmed her death. I was young and did not understand the magnitude of what had happened. I just knew that my mother was devastated and that I mourned her loss. Even in 2023 it’s still painful to think about the crash and loosing her let alone watching the video. I really admired her ambition, discipline and drive to succeed in life and wanted to follow her lead when I grew up. And that part alone never goes away. RIP and ongoing 🙏🏽’s to all that lost a loved one in the horrific act. 😪😪

    • @louise_running
      @louise_running 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi. I'm so sorry for your loss. I stumbled across your comment while researching the Lockerbie bombing. I'm doing a project on it in school. I have some questions about it, as I'm trying to represent it in the most accurate way. Could I ask you them? It would mean a lot. If not, God bless.

  • @JokeriPokeri17
    @JokeriPokeri17 4 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    Rest in piece. Condolences to victims families and Lockerbie residents, 31 long and sad years have passed.

    • @miaipadkid8697
      @miaipadkid8697 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Especially the flannigans. Their house got crushed by the plane and 1 10 year old and 2 parents died. My mother used to date steven flannigan who overdosed in a hotel because of the traumatizing stress. It was so sad.

    • @beverleylumb8048
      @beverleylumb8048 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes and the people responsible are still out and some innocent convicted brilliant

    • @thesoultwins72
      @thesoultwins72 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@beverleylumb8048 ......Totally agree. The politically motivated and utterly ridiculous conviction of 'lone bomber' Abdul Baset al Megrahi [and blaming of Libya] was as Professor Robert Black sadly stated, 'The worst miscarriage of Scottish Law in over 100 years'. An absolute disgrace.

    • @danozism
      @danozism ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@miaipadkid8697 That's just awful. Poor family. I can understand how the trauma could send a person that deep into depression and hopelessness. RIP.

    • @user-mc5zg7gx5g
      @user-mc5zg7gx5g ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thesoultwins72 Your words are very, very correct and accurate. What happened is a very big global laughing stock for all the peoples of the world. They must admit the real perpetrator of the crime.

  • @rhettgannon4417
    @rhettgannon4417 5 ปีที่แล้ว +72

    The two images of this disaster that will always remain in people's memories are the aerial view of the massive crater in Sherwood Crescent, and the vision of the cockpit and nose section of the aircraft that came down in the field at Tundergarth. I was only 7 at the time, but both of those images have been burned into my brain ever since, and led to a lifelong fascination with air crash investigations.

    • @mcscootie
      @mcscootie 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Same here..remember that night clear as day..i lived 14 miles away on the flightpath. They thought a fighter jet had crashed into the petrol station at first

    • @MsBananasmel
      @MsBananasmel 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I was 10 when this happened and it's stayed with me.

    • @mrkipling2201
      @mrkipling2201 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Totally agree. One of the other images that stayed with me, because of how shocking it was, was the body that was in the roof beams of one of the destroyed houses in sherwood crescent. That really brought it home about how devastating it was.

    • @bindlepig8064
      @bindlepig8064 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      i wonder if the pilots fought to gain control of the nose cone while it descended, it was 5 miles away from the main debris field.

    • @bindlepig8064
      @bindlepig8064 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Andro mache They found bodies, lots of them, body parts too. Were they planted with the pristine passports? I heard David Copperfield made the illusion that planes were involved but it was all a mind fuck. He was so good he made the buildings come down without being hit!! What's not to believe?

  • @alliedunnington8069
    @alliedunnington8069 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    I finally visited this important site today after driving past it so many times. It brought deep tears to my heart in sorrow and sympathy of those who innocently lost their lives and those who mourn their losses!! Keep these memories going!!

  • @Nebulous0_o
    @Nebulous0_o 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    My obsession with this case continues to this day. Why? I was 15 at the time, and that day I had broken my leg, informed of the crash as I had the cast set. Later I found out that a local man who I was familiar with was on the plane. I will never forget Lockerbie, and remain obsessed with the case as long as it’s still open.

  • @gmar7836
    @gmar7836 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Awful. Those Syracuse students were around my age. I’m so sorry for them. Heaven will take care of them and all who perished. I hope it was quick

  • @alexgundy9985
    @alexgundy9985 4 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    I presume Prince Andrew didn't sweat whilst he was visiting Lockerbie

    • @donsarde
      @donsarde 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hahaha ha ha !! No, but you must have been bloody sweaty lol !! 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂😂💂💂💂🙃😉🙃😉

    • @margaretbanks8969
      @margaretbanks8969 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Except for what he said T the time which I agree was crass can we keep prince Andrew out of this?

    • @gigilaloo4474
      @gigilaloo4474 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      😂

  • @zed4225
    @zed4225 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I remember this, I was 18 living in the UK at the time, horrific, devastating, and evil.
    RIP to all the lives lost, both on the flight and on the ground in Lockerbie. You are not forgotten.

    • @louise_running
      @louise_running 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm so sorry for what you went through. I stumbled across your comment while researching the Lockerbie bombing. I'm doing a project on it in school. I have some questions about it, as I'm trying to represent it in the most accurate way. Could I ask you them? It would mean a lot. If not, God bless.

  • @katiegibson7959
    @katiegibson7959 4 ปีที่แล้ว +92

    My dad was there before the emergency services because my great granny though she had left her gas on and blew lockerbie up

    • @dominewimbury2039
      @dominewimbury2039 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      😢 Aww bless her

    • @tiananickols4023
      @tiananickols4023 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Blessings

    • @conniethomas4753
      @conniethomas4753 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      God bless her I sob every time i see this and think of the people just prior to Christmas.
      I do remember the town were wonderful

    • @aviatrix91
      @aviatrix91 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Aww, bless her heart. ♥️

    • @georgebogdan397
      @georgebogdan397 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Can i find you on tinder?

  • @gizzykatkat9687
    @gizzykatkat9687 5 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Rest in peace.

  • @altfactor
    @altfactor 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    This was broadcast on December 22nd, 1988, the night after the disaster.

  • @DianaKazimiera-
    @DianaKazimiera- 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Respect and memory for the victims of a terrorist attack 🕯️

    • @margaretbanks8969
      @margaretbanks8969 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Viola Player what's thT got. To do with the children on the jet? Two wrongs don't makke a right.

    • @susilingham961
      @susilingham961 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nobody deserved this...whether adults or children. If the fate of the passengers and crew on the Iranian jet really was the reason for Pan Am 103 being targeted, then all the perpetrators have done is recreate what happened to those passengers and crew on the Iranian jet - and thus further injured the memories of those on the Iranian jet. And that, I’m afraid, is just plain vile.

    • @grassytramtracks
      @grassytramtracks ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@onlybasketballs the 270 innocent people didn't deserve this. Two wrongs don't make a right

  • @dominewimbury2039
    @dominewimbury2039 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I was only three years old at the time this happened and didn't really understand it all. Now I do and I'm bloody fuming! These poor people were murdered by terrorists as well as governments, simply because it looks like they couldn't be bothered to warn anyone about the threat 🤬 bloody disgusting

  • @jimmillward3505
    @jimmillward3505 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    i remember the day it happened, it was just dreadful news. What remarkable people the Lockerbie residents were to recover from such a trauma.

  • @spaghettiappletaterghost1009
    @spaghettiappletaterghost1009 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    My granny lived in that town, but she and her family moved to the north of Scotland...

    • @user-mc5zg7gx5g
      @user-mc5zg7gx5g ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I suffered very, very much for these innocent civilians, the victims. It was a very painful scene. The real perpetrator of this heinous crime must be held accountable. The state of Iran is the real perpetrator of this crime, and there is a lot of evidence for that.

    • @louise_running
      @louise_running 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I stumbled across your comment while researching the Lockerbie bombing. I'm doing a project on it in school. I have some questions about it, as I'm trying to represent it in the most accurate way. Could I ask you them? It would mean a lot. If not, God bless.

  • @daynasafranek7807
    @daynasafranek7807 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Such a horrific tragedy. I remember this as a kid and it really affected me at the time. This, multiple hijacking’s and other air disasters of the time really seemed to effect air travel negatively; permanently. People have never thought of it the same again. It used to be special and fun, then was scary for a while and then seemed to level off as general dissatisfaction which escalated after 9/11 since the late 70’s and early 80’s.

    • @user-mc5zg7gx5g
      @user-mc5zg7gx5g ปีที่แล้ว

      I suffered very, very much for these innocent civilians, the victims. It was a very painful scene. The real perpetrator of this heinous crime must be held accountable. The state of Iran is the real perpetrator of this crime, and there is a lot of evidence for that.

    • @louise_running
      @louise_running 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I stumbled across your comment while researching the Lockerbie bombing. I'm doing a project on it in school. I have some questions about it, as I'm trying to represent it in the most accurate way. Could I ask you them? It would mean a lot. If not, God bless.

  • @djm55
    @djm55 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    18:13 "Pan Am could guarantee that every piece of luggage was matched to a passenger." Sadly, this was not true. Pan Am let checked luggage remain in the cargo hold without a matching passenger from London to NY.

    • @dutchy1176
      @dutchy1176 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They cut corners because they were in financial trouble.

  • @Retroscoop
    @Retroscoop หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Always found it very surprising how the front windows of that 747 have survived the explosion and the falling down from the sky.

  • @AlonsoRules
    @AlonsoRules 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    the debris of the plane is still in Windleys Salvage in Tattershall, England

    • @2degucitas
      @2degucitas 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Tattershall.....tatters all...oh the irony

    • @AlonsoRules
      @AlonsoRules 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@2degucitas someone needs to get a drone up there and check it out

    • @aviatrix91
      @aviatrix91 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@AlonsoRules There are aerial pictures of the wreckage. My guess would be that they’re holding on to it if new evidence comes to light. Not sure about though because it’s been over 30 years since the incident. But we will never forget Pan Am 103.

    • @CaptainSiCo
      @CaptainSiCo ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I believe what’s left of the cockpit is stored elsewhere though.

    • @AnthonyMcCready
      @AnthonyMcCready ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Pan Am 103 debris ought to be sent back to the USA, alongside their Nuclear Polaris and Trident missile systems - pronto

  • @MsBananasmel
    @MsBananasmel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I was 10 years old when this happened and it's etched in my memory.

    • @user-mc5zg7gx5g
      @user-mc5zg7gx5g ปีที่แล้ว

      I suffered very, very much for these innocent civilians, the victims. It was a very painful scene. The real perpetrator of this heinous crime must be held accountable. The state of Iran is the real perpetrator of this crime, and there is a lot of evidence for that.

  • @jamesalexander5623
    @jamesalexander5623 5 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    I flew on that Flight to come home for my Brother's Funeral in 1982 .... On the same Aircraft! .....

    • @trentmiller8139
      @trentmiller8139 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      You flew on that Plane,not that Flight.

    • @trentmiller8139
      @trentmiller8139 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sorry James My Mistake,You were Saying,Was it a good Flight?😁

    • @jamesalexander5623
      @jamesalexander5623 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The Flight Designation Was Pan Am 103. And was when it was blown out of the air! @@trentmiller8139

    • @martf8014
      @martf8014 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@trentmiller8139 Well no the flight number is the same week in week out. Please refrain from comment if you have nothing of note to say. Regards Mart.

    • @trentmiller8139
      @trentmiller8139 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@martf8014 No thankyou!

  • @StephenLuke
    @StephenLuke 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    RIP
    To the passengers and crew of Pan Am Flight 103 and the 11 people on the ground

  • @epasko5713
    @epasko5713 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    the fact that they knew SO much at such early time is impressive! they have not even done the black boxes yet. interesting watch knowing what we know now,
    makes it all more interesting, this case was NEVER totally solved, and 90 percent of all the suspects are now dead.

    • @aviatrix91
      @aviatrix91 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      But they named new suspects just a few months ago. Even though they may be dead, they can still charged and convicted in absentia.

    • @user-mc5zg7gx5g
      @user-mc5zg7gx5g ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I suffered very, very much for these innocent civilians, the victims. It was a very painful scene. The real perpetrator of this heinous crime must be held accountable. The state of Iran is the real perpetrator of this crime, and there is a lot of evidence for that.

  • @cjtannerza
    @cjtannerza 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    In an interview with the former South African foreign minister, Mr Pik Botha, he explained how he and his colleagues were supposed to be travelling on the this flight. They were on their way to New York for a meeting with the Cuban and Russian delegations regarding a ceasefire in the Angolan bush war. Their connecting flight from Munich to London was delayed and they did not board the flight.
    There is a connection between Libya and the African National Congress. The Libyans supported the ANC during the armed struggle. Pik Botha didnt say it out loud but he left no doubt who the target was and who the South African government thought was responsible for this bombing. It wasnt the Libyans but they did take the blame to cover for the ANC.

  • @mickieb74
    @mickieb74 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Did that bloke just say "I turned to run but there was nowhere to run to" 🤔?

  • @donsarde
    @donsarde 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Poor innocent victims, may they all rest in peace.

  • @josh256m8
    @josh256m8 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Mates dad was in a bar and his car was in a petrol station. That car died.

  • @gordonlumbert9861
    @gordonlumbert9861 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This was one of the things that killed Pan Am

  • @superbracey
    @superbracey ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I was six but remember the incident well from the news. The image of the nose cone and cockpit have stuck with me and the name Lockerbie will always remind me of this. Rest in peace all those victims.
    At 0:54, can you imagine that road being open the day after such a huge incident that had occurred right next to the carriageway today? They'd close it for a car crash these days (and rightly so), nevermind something as disastrous as this.

    • @user-mc5zg7gx5g
      @user-mc5zg7gx5g ปีที่แล้ว

      I suffered very, very much for these innocent civilians, the victims. It was a very painful scene. The real perpetrator of this heinous crime must be held accountable. The state of Iran is the real perpetrator of this crime, and there is a lot of evidence for that.

    • @hlowrylong
      @hlowrylong ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We know so much more about crime scenes now. The investigation was very effective given what we didn’t yet know. Amazing.

    • @clothilde1623
      @clothilde1623 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You’re right, it’s so mad seeing the other lane of that motorway open the next day! I realise it was the main road between England and Scotland on the west coast, but still - bloody hell. I’m surprised drivers weren’t so busy lollygagging at the crash scene that they crashed themselves!

  • @beverleylumb8048
    @beverleylumb8048 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    What exactly made that big gouge in the land because there isn't any wreckage in it

    • @mcfcguvnors
      @mcfcguvnors 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      fueselage & wings ( fuel disintergrated them )

  • @heathen2487
    @heathen2487 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This horrifying. Scarred by it to this day.

  • @Leylandman1
    @Leylandman1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I arrived on that exact same day, 30 years ago on a flight from Chicago to Manchester. For a holiday in England.

    • @franzchong5889
      @franzchong5889 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      i had just turned 11 that day.although panam had since been replaced on the australia runs by united a few years earlier it had us kids worried about flying a us carrier for our first trip to america three weeks later.luckily we were on continental.

  • @redmercury1159
    @redmercury1159 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    someone actually said, it couldve been worse??! wtf

    • @nerfboi1234
      @nerfboi1234 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      It could have been

    • @AnthonyMcCready
      @AnthonyMcCready ปีที่แล้ว +1

      A Nuclear warhead from Eastern Europe - 1988 to 2023 ?

  • @duckarm6969
    @duckarm6969 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Oh no not prince nonce ! And thatcher turning up as well.good lord. Those poor people

  • @spaghetti9067
    @spaghetti9067 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is likely the single thing that pushed pan am over the edge

    • @hlowrylong
      @hlowrylong ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It was.
      Mail in their already closed coffin.

  • @beewalk34
    @beewalk34 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    One of GZa's lines from his Liquid Swords album brought me here.

  • @simonandrew8268
    @simonandrew8268 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Always interesting to see how the news what out at the time.

  • @steve3716
    @steve3716 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Gone so quick...seems like yesterday..

  • @jacksugden8190
    @jacksugden8190 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I remember those titles + theme, was one of my favourites at the time, unable to recall this news story all those years on in Newsnight thou.

  • @ronaldschultenover8137
    @ronaldschultenover8137 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    My parents refused to fly until this was over because they said there would be a payback for the Americans shooting down a plane flying from Iran to Mecca They were in the military during WWii

    • @louise_running
      @louise_running 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I stumbled across your comment while researching the Lockerbie bombing. I'm doing a project on it in school. I have some questions about it, as I'm trying to represent it in the most accurate way. Could I ask you them? It would mean a lot. If not, God bless.

  • @missb6810
    @missb6810 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Prince Andrew is one smart fellow.

    • @Highland_Moo
      @Highland_Moo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      He’s always been an insufferable arsehole.

    • @mrkipling2201
      @mrkipling2201 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      He doesn’t look so smart now!!

  • @seanbarr5871
    @seanbarr5871 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Pure heartbreak.

  • @julienewsome7471
    @julienewsome7471 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Is it true that the man that was convicted of this tragedy who died recently and protested his innocence, someone else has admitted it

    • @ChristopherSaindon
      @ChristopherSaindon 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      The scum who did it is in HELL now.

    • @davidhat2446
      @davidhat2446 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Julie people knew who did it from the first.All got caught up in world politics and the need to get Syria on board for desert storm

    • @clairefrier2353
      @clairefrier2353 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ChristopherSaindon, if you're referring to Al Megrahi, I actually don't think he's responsible.

    • @bindlepig8064
      @bindlepig8064 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@clairefrier2353 Ask any liberal and they'll say Trump did it.

    • @jamara3330
      @jamara3330 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      No. His family appealed and it was ruled that he was rightly convicted. It usually takes more than 1 person to pan, make and plant a bomb. It sounds like the actual bomb maker was simply not found at the time. www.thenationalnews.com/world/europe/lockerbie-bombing-who-is-suspected-bomb-maker-abu-agila-mohammad-masud-1.1130517

  • @water9584
    @water9584 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    What a tragedy :(

  • @zed4225
    @zed4225 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Be called a false flag these days, thats how sick society is.

  • @redmercury1159
    @redmercury1159 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    and their excuse for NOT alerting the public was because they didnt know for sure if it was a real threat or not and we dont want to cause "unnecessary" panic. i think thats why they call it a threat. i wish i could ask them if they really wanted to risk the lives of so many people simply to avoid a little mass hysteria?? i mean, so what, you dont make money because people are too afraid to fly. youre not making ANY money off of them now that theyre all dead. and now, instead of a little mass panic, youve got a lot of mass panic and a lot of loss revenue. to think, our lives arent even worth a little bit of hysteria to our elected officials. no matter whether is real or not, you should always warn your people. this is what we elected you for. to keep us safe and you cant even do it. we certainly wouldve warned the people had it been today that this threat was called in. God rest all the souls who died the day we failed to alert them of the threat.

    • @naser1109
      @naser1109 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think alerting people would have cost the airlines, airports, petrol and tourism companies a fortune, so why risk it?!

    • @darrencarter6350
      @darrencarter6350 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That's just her point. Life is far more precious than money every day of the week.

    • @jamara3330
      @jamara3330 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It sounds awful but they will have got bomb threats all the time and cannot keep closing down all flights

    • @mrkipling2201
      @mrkipling2201 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Governments, authorities and huge companies don’t care about people. They care about themselves and money.

    • @andreaberryman5354
      @andreaberryman5354 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      JUST LIKE G DUBYA DID WITH 9-11: daddy and son both TOLD, daddy and son thought it a dumb joke.

  • @drrd4127
    @drrd4127 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is Horrific!

  • @petfan2948
    @petfan2948 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Rest In Peace

  • @levdavid2412
    @levdavid2412 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    The luggage was check in, but not matched to passengers upon boarding.

    • @donsarde
      @donsarde 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well, what foes that mean ??? To whom did they belong too then ????

    • @samantharossiter8808
      @samantharossiter8808 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@donsarde hi the bomb was hidden inside a Toshiba bombbeat radio cassette player then packed inside a suitcase covered by different items of clothing - it was thought to have come in on an interconnecting flight - can’t remember where - it was then loaded onto pan am flight 103. The bags were not matched to passengers and security was v lax - nowadays a passenger cannot just load their luggage and not board their flight !

    • @lesleywilliams1210
      @lesleywilliams1210 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@samantharossiter8808from Luqa, Malta.

  • @TralfazConstruction
    @TralfazConstruction 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    The jarring juxtaposition of this tragedy ground like a fault plate up against the preparations of the joyous season. The memory is still fresh though many years back in the rearview mirror.

  • @rogerhudson2814
    @rogerhudson2814 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Was it behind schedule when it got to Lockerbie? I can't find the answer to this basic question.

    • @rogerhudson2814
      @rogerhudson2814 ปีที่แล้ว

      The plane left Heathrow half an hour late but madde up some time. It was blown up just short of reaching international airspace. I feel great sadness for those killed in Lockerbie, it wasn't our fight. I had hoped that now Thatcher and Bush41 are dead the truth could be acknowledged. Iran paid a Palestinian terrorist group in Germany to do it, simple.

  • @PlaAwa
    @PlaAwa 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    26:26

  • @Thomas-yr9ln
    @Thomas-yr9ln ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It killed the son of the man who played Larry Tate on Bewitched.

  • @banagher81
    @banagher81 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Czech Semtex. One of our invention im not proud of..

    • @margaretbanks8969
      @margaretbanks8969 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's not your fault. Sure Czech people were as horrified as the rest of us.

    • @margaretbanks8969
      @margaretbanks8969 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I don't blame the ordinary Czech people and I'm sur most people dont

  • @fritzsander3132
    @fritzsander3132 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I had many of my friends ( Panam crew) on the flight RIP

    • @louise_running
      @louise_running 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm so sorry for your loss. I stumbled across your comment while researching the Lockerbie bombing. I'm a French student and I'm doing a project on it in school. I have some questions about it, as I'm trying to represent it in the most accurate way. Could I ask you them? It would mean a lot. If not, God bless.

  • @cavid8066
    @cavid8066 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Prince Andrews has studied statistics, or what?

    • @margaretbanks8969
      @margaretbanks8969 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Certainly hasn't studied tact or compassion.

  • @AnthonyMcCready
    @AnthonyMcCready ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cause and effect - Warning made to Helsinki U.S. Embassy in early December 1988 ?

  • @theodoremccoy3238
    @theodoremccoy3238 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I was supposed to be on board I changed my flight days before flew home early the voice inside my head said fly home early so I did Bco 5/8 Mainz Germany a lot of military family members died that day so when the terrorist that was responsible was released because he was dying of cancer to be greeted with a hero’s welcome really pissed me off

  • @user-sf1id2br7i
    @user-sf1id2br7i 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How can you have fragments of large pieces everywhere

    • @jameskerr5621
      @jameskerr5621 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Explosive decompression after the detonation of the bomb tore the Aircraft apart. If you look up explosive decompression on Aircraft at 31,000ft after Detonation of an explosion it goes in to detail about it and there’s a video aswel. I could explain it in detail to you but I feel looking it up will help you understand alot better. I’m an Independent Air Crash Investigator hence the reason I know so much.

  • @zigosaleh555
    @zigosaleh555 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    13 years later another quadruple Lockerbie happened in New York which is 9/11

    • @iheartheenim
      @iheartheenim 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      America at work. Threatening and scaring their own people whilst blaming others.

    • @GC-pq6vm
      @GC-pq6vm 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@iheartheenim okay, loser

  • @Scotland1766
    @Scotland1766 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I remember this day. My dad passed the crater in his truck. And yet we have modern day students, around the world, supporting terrorism in Hamas. They have no idea, but are supposedly educated.

  • @AnthonyMcCready
    @AnthonyMcCready ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I was in Doncaster, at the time, as Christmas being celebrated. Horrendous and heinous act of revenge from previous attack in the Persian Gulf. Regular traveller in the previous years on flights to Dhahran in Saudi Arabia (1981 -84 ). Terminal 5 at Heathrow for the 6 hour flight to Dhahran and Al - Khobar.

  • @eliorahg
    @eliorahg 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    A bit off-place, but in my opinion the word "Lockerbie" itself sounds like the name of a fast military plane.

    • @Jazzinthedark84
      @Jazzinthedark84 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It depends how you say it.
      It's a very soft, gentle word in the local dialect and it's so sad that it's tainted with this horrible association.
      The people in this video are all English and aren't saying it right, with too much emphasis on on the "lock" bit.
      It's said like:
      loh-Kerr-bee
      You don't say the emphasis on the c like you do in lock, but say the K like how it's pronounced at the start of "kite"

    • @eliorahg
      @eliorahg 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Jazzinthedark84 I just remembered how Michael Gordon, a resident of Lockerbie and helper with search, says it in the Air Crash Investigation show.
      Now I see.

    • @Ozymandi_as
      @Ozymandi_as 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      And your point is? The name is derived from Old Norse, and means Lockard's Town, so it predates the existence of military jets by about 1,000 years.

  • @brianlopez8855
    @brianlopez8855 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Funny how the ENTIRE plane that "crashed" in Pennsylvania entirely vapourised on 911 whereas this plane clearly fell to earth. So sad.

    • @discogareth
      @discogareth 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Pan Am 103 was blown up in the sky causing a very large debris field. United 93 was direct impact into the ground at a huge speed.

    • @brianlopez8855
      @brianlopez8855 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      and vaporized in impact like no other plane crash ever did on impact ?@@discogareth

    • @discogareth
      @discogareth 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@brianlopez8855 it didn’t entirely vaporize. There were remains of both aircraft and victims. You need to not get your info from conspiracy sites buddy. Because 22 years later, you’re still believing nonsense.

    • @AB-mw8oz
      @AB-mw8oz 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Look at pictures of the aftermath of Ethiopian Airways Flight 302, which crashed at an estimated speed of just under 700MPH. Very little of that plane survived, mostly just fragments. Also noteworthy is the 737 Max crashed at a far more shallow angle than United 93

  • @greenfox9677
    @greenfox9677 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fun fact a body from some plane crash landed in my papas shed

    • @09weenic
      @09weenic 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Oh yea it’s a fun fact 😩

  • @beverleylumb8048
    @beverleylumb8048 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You notice no one actually mentioned that it could be gaddafi

  • @JustAThought155
    @JustAThought155 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Wow! Real heartfelt Sec of State, Schultz. He reads off a paper, “We…grieve…for…all…those…who…lost…their…lives.” Gee! He could not say that without a written prompt??? Pathetic!

    • @hlowrylong
      @hlowrylong ปีที่แล้ว

      He was a good man, probably exhausted and thrown a required script 2 seconds before he read it. So many politicians are mandated to read what’s provided, especially in international events, just to be completely careful.
      Crazy to think that George Schultz only recently died, after making the terrible error in believing Elizabeth Holmes and Theranos. Crazy. Even worse is to imagine that dipshit Joe Biden was actually elected President of the United States of America. He was long known as being the dumbest idiot ever to enter politics. 🤦🏼‍♀️

  • @dissonantdreams
    @dissonantdreams 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Did they ever find out what happened to those motorists on the A74? I think about those burned-out cars whenever I travel that road and pass by Sherwood Crescent, even now.

    • @Silver_Owl
      @Silver_Owl 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I believe the eleven people who died on the ground were all in the houses in Sherwood Crescent. Amazingly, the motorists all seem to have survived.

    • @mrkipling2201
      @mrkipling2201 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I always wondered about that. I presume nobody died on the A74, thankfully. We certainly didn’t hear about any deaths there.

    • @antman5474
      @antman5474 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The driver of the red vauxhall cavalier survived and was featured in a documentary about people's fear of flying.
      Apparently he has a genuine fear of planes crashing into him. He doesn't trust the sky.

  • @PC-lu3zf
    @PC-lu3zf 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sad case I was 6 I remember it well.

  • @jozsiolah1435
    @jozsiolah1435 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This event happened 1 year and 36 weeks after the high profile execution with daily precision.

    • @thejoelcameronbrown
      @thejoelcameronbrown 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Execution of who?

    • @jozsiolah1435
      @jozsiolah1435 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thejoelcameronbrown I don't know her name, she was executed at night on April 13 1987. She was pregnant, and she was hanged over a pit of fire, the video recording was made using a ground pad for the camera. She shouted this: "God will beat you for doing this" as the flame grew to 2 m length. The substance was probably jetfuel. She was probably named Christine.

    • @MrWarthog
      @MrWarthog 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@jozsiolah1435 what

    • @aviatrix91
      @aviatrix91 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I’m sorry, this comment doesn’t make sense.

    • @jozsiolah1435
      @jozsiolah1435 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@aviatrix91 Everything is on the track, so you don't need to take further actions. If you are interested in the live burning video, you have to contact the White House.

  • @austenpowers
    @austenpowers ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Maggie talking about broken windows, trashed gardens and burnt out cars. That’s just like Sunak, totally detached from reality

    • @kathgarvey72
      @kathgarvey72 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What about Andrew Saying "Statistically, something like this is going to happen"
      Really - because people really want to hear about statistics after such a terrible atrocity happening!!!!!!.
      Just shows how detached from reality this Stupid Entitled Self absorbed prick Prince Nobody really is!!!!!!.

    • @margaretbanks8969
      @margaretbanks8969 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      WhT should she have said?

    • @austenpowers
      @austenpowers 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@margaretbanks8969 perhaps show some emotion; and talk about what really matters such as loss of life, community, express support and reassure people that providing all and any aid that is needed and that finding out who or what caused it would be of equal importance !
      Her remarks came across (to me at least) as ‘it’s terribly untidy and altogether unbecoming’
      She’s talking about objects not people.

  • @G-A-T-V
    @G-A-T-V ปีที่แล้ว +1

    6:00 Prince Andrew is worse than Walter White!

  • @daleth5145
    @daleth5145 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A humble question, where was the plane going? To Germany? I don't think I follow the route quite well.

    • @moemanncann895
      @moemanncann895 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Frankfurt to New York via London

    • @AB-mw8oz
      @AB-mw8oz 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Pan Am and TWA I believe also did this. They used a 727 on the Frankfurt to London leg of the route, then in London passengers would change to a 747. In this case Pan Am 103 was heading to Detroit via New York

  • @Pazuzu82
    @Pazuzu82 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Omg that is cringe material coming from prince andrew, what a fanny

  • @MofoJamie
    @MofoJamie 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Woooo first! Saw the feature article on BBC News, great read! (It was Assad!)

  • @lizjones7220
    @lizjones7220 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    & no one paid?

  • @user-ix7cr5ie2c
    @user-ix7cr5ie2c 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I was on that flight ✈️💥🤕

  • @patriciaschuster1371
    @patriciaschuster1371 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    PanAm went bankrupt after this.

  • @seanhogg478
    @seanhogg478 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Prince Andrew, we knew it would happen but thank fuck it was in Scotland

  • @athenaminerva8954
    @athenaminerva8954 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Libya was not responsible. It was the unholy triangle of Syrians, Palestinians, and Iranians. Those were the suspected culprits until Saddam invaded Kuwait. The Americans switched their accusations to Libya once they realized they needed the support of that unholy triangle for Operation Desert Storm: They wanted Iranian neutrality; they wanted Syria to participate in Desert Storm; and they wanted both Syria and the Palestinians to take part in an international peace conference in 1992 with the Israelis in order to sideline Saddam's proposal during the occupation of Kuwait that he would willingly withdraw from Kuwait only if Israel withdrew from the West Bank and Gaza. Even the Israeli Mossad said Libya was not responsible. Even the families of the British victims said they were convinced Libya was not behind the bombing. And it was particularly disgusting that families of the American victims were so greedy for Libya's huge compensation which was coerced out of Libya by the imposition of UN sanctions: They said they did not care if Libya was not guilty because they wanted the money, and that the Syrians and Palestinians were not wealthy enough to compensate them. It speaks volumes for what the Americans are like: Liars, manipulators, self-serving, and greedy two-faced hypocrites.

  • @Cflixs
    @Cflixs 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    KEEP IT BRO

  • @williammilesharley68
    @williammilesharley68 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Crassly insensitive words from Prince Andrew about such an horrific event.

    • @clothilde1623
      @clothilde1623 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Typical Prince Andrew, innit? The man’s a fucking idiot, and that’s the nicest thing I have to say about him.

  • @eknowledge7309
    @eknowledge7309 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Reason why real culprits were not discovered and apprehended that this crash was clearly a retaliation of Iran air 655 which was deliberately shot down 6 months ago and Iran avanged its people's death.
    Politics overcome personal grief always.

  • @PAXperMortem
    @PAXperMortem 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The man responsible for this was released after having served just 8 and a half years.

    • @PAXperMortem
      @PAXperMortem 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @Ry G his name was Abdelbaset al-Megrahi, there's an entire Wikipedia page dedicated just to his release. He went back to Lybia where he was celebrated as a hero.

    • @PAXperMortem
      @PAXperMortem 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Ry G lmao u for real??

    • @libbyscrapper720
      @libbyscrapper720 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      This is true, he had cancer so was released early on compassionate release! How crazy is that??? He died 3yrs later.

    • @skymaster4743
      @skymaster4743 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@PAXperMortem There was no proof against him. He was framed. Even Scottish judges concluded that injustice was done to him.

    • @jamara3330
      @jamara3330 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@skymaster4743 Scottish court of appeal ruled that he was properly convicted

  • @barrymontgomery408
    @barrymontgomery408 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It was an appalling tragedy that 270 people lost their lives at the hands of vile terrorists. The doomed airline went out of buisness a few years later.

  • @sammavacaist
    @sammavacaist 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Prince Andrew's "concern" and Thatcher's "sorrow." 🙄

    • @Ozymandi_as
      @Ozymandi_as 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What would your reaction have looked like?

  • @robertwilcock7112
    @robertwilcock7112 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This tragedy is, and always was, a revenger attack for the downing of the Iranian aircraft with the loss of over 300 innocent civilians, by the USS Cruiser, Whose entire crew were decorated.

    • @thesoultwins72
      @thesoultwins72 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Robert Wilcock ......Whilst you are perfectly correct about Lockerbie being in revenge for the downing of an Iranian aircraft - most of your post is totally inaccurate. Here are the actual facts:
      'On 3 July 1988, Iran Air flight 655 and all 290 passengers and crew onboard was blown out of the sky by two surface-to-air missiles launched at it by US cruiser, USS Vincennes. The crew of the US$3 billion Ticonderoga-class guided missile cruiser [equipped with the state-of-the-art 'Aegis Combat System' - which was and still is one the most advanced integrated naval weapons systems ever developed] inexplicably mistook an A300 Airbus for a F-14 jet fighter. [this is akin to confusing a small dog with a horse!]
      To make matters worse, US President Ronald Reagan openly praised and awarded 'Medals of Honour' to both the Captain of the USS Vincennes [William C. Rogers III] as well as the senior weaponry officer. As a result, the justifiably incensed Iranians ‘contracted’ the Syrian-Palestinian backed and Ahmed Jibril-led PFLP-GC [Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine - General Command] to carry out revenge attacks on 5 American airplanes.
      A payment of US$10 million was agreed with Jibril for the attacks. [This action was code-named ‘Operation Intekam’ - which means ‘equal and just revenge’ in English]. The targets were to be on major American commercial airline operators with flights originating in Europe and to various destinations in the U.S. The Iranian's motivation was pure revenge and to fulfill the promise that the skies would "rain blood."

    • @donsarde
      @donsarde 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      So two wrongs make it right then do they ? Rubbish

    • @margaretbanks8969
      @margaretbanks8969 ปีที่แล้ว

      Can you explain to mme how the children on the. Flight and on the ground were to blame for the downing of the earlier.aircraft? Or the Syracuse students? Or the people killed in their own homeex in lockerbie?

    • @margaretbanks8969
      @margaretbanks8969 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I agree that that was tragic too but how did blowing up the lockerbie flight help anyone on Iranian jet. Two wrongs. Don't make aright. N EYE FOR AN EYE LEAVES THE WHOLE WORLD BLIND

  • @IvorGrumble
    @IvorGrumble 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I bet Prince Andrew went there to see if he could find any orphaned children.

  • @andreaberryman5354
    @andreaberryman5354 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    😔💔

  • @drrd4127
    @drrd4127 ปีที่แล้ว

    @9:30 I just realized this guy actually has a Scottish accent but it is just so posh it sounds English. I am Scottish myself and thought he was English.

  • @andreaberryman5354
    @andreaberryman5354 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Oh-So THAT'S WHY G DUBYAH DID NOTHING WHEN HE WAS NOTIFIED OF TERRORIST THREAT ON 9-10/01.🤯😡🤦‍♀️

  • @smedinav99
    @smedinav99 ปีที่แล้ว

    No no no

  • @paulfrewzy7374
    @paulfrewzy7374 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had a dream about this just last night
    JstSayin)0(

  • @tdickensheets
    @tdickensheets 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Survivors 0