Inside Story - Who was really behind the Lockerbie bombing?
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- As the world marks the 25th Lockerbie attack anniversary, we ask why there is no clarity on who was the perpetrator. To discuss this, Inside Story presenter Folly Bah Thibault is joined by guests: Jim Swire, who lost his daughter in the bombing and led a high-profile campaign for justice on behalf of the UK victims' relatives; Richard Marquise, then head of FBI's task force on the Lockerbie investigation; Morag Kerr, the author of 'Adequately Explained by Stupidity? Lockerbie, Luggage and Lies'; and Anas el-Gomati, the director general of Libya's first public policy think-tank Sadeq Institute.
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Libya and Gaddafi was the main target for the USA at that time not Palestinians or Iran, that's basically the gist of the Megrahi conviction
Iran was a big ally for the US and israel during the iran contra. Israel had good relations with the iranian regime and used it against saddam.
What does the Colonel say about this?
I was 25 when the bombing happened. I clearly remembered that a U.S. aircraft had shot down Iran Air flight 655 in the Persian Gulf, 6 months earlier. There had been warnings for months, that Iran might retaliate. The day after the bombing, someone called claiming to be from "the popular front for the liberation of palestine, general command" and they stated that it was revenge for the shoot down of the Iran Air flight. Iran and their proxy groups, took responsibility for the bombing ; Libya may have had a role but they were not the major player.
Exactly, the attack of Iran air before.
Ex Pan Am employee
I loved Pan Am
It was the USS Vincennes that shot down the Iranian airliner
Still dont know truth
Gaddafi Libya didnt do this They was a scapegoat suited powers that be
Darren Douglas how do you know that?
Al Megrahi received a hero's welcome on his return home because the Libyans viewed him as having been offered as an innocent sacrifice to save them from harsh sanctions
MI6 , CIA , MOSSAD
It is so VERY sad, the system does nto work, there was no evidence against this man, except someone getting his identity WRONG! and that is not enough evidence to convict anyone
At least that terrorist Gaddafi is dead.🤣🤣🤣🤣
When Mr FBI drops his 3 decades of service, I know he is lying. Well let me tell you how this or that happens, blah blah blah. All this posturing, no one cares about the victims. it's beyond sad.
Worst miscarriage of justice of all time...
in effect the entire case against the guy history calls the lockerbie bomber just leaks water like a sieve.
How come there was so much wreckage of Pam Am 103, compared to the planes that crashed into the TWIN TOWERS?
It was Iran. Read private eye lockerbie special. It stunk. The US shot down and celebrated downing an Iranian airliner. The captain and crew received medals and a heros welcome. No US apology. Politics meant Libya took the blame. All could have been a avoided.
The attack came from Iran, the bomb was made in Syria, and various agencies including the CIA were aware it was going to happen and allowed two of their agents to die while transporting a case full of narcotics and cash. Also UN Commissioner Bernt Carlsson was onboard, having not previously been booked on the flight, who was due to attend the signing ceremony on 22 December 1988 at United Nations headquarters of the New York Accords granting independence to Namibia, which had been illegally occupied by apartheid South Africa in defiance of UN Security Council Resolution 435. After his death the agreement was never ratified. So outgoing US president Ronald Ray Gun and incoming president H.W. Bush (villan no.1) continued to coin it in from the infamous Namibian scam known as 'Gem Diamonds'.
Also the death of the CIA agents neatly covered up a possible scandal that was brewing about the agency running drugs and cash around the world for 'friendly' warlords', after the Iran-Contra affair, H.W. Bush (murderer) didn't want to start his tenure with another scandal.
@@TheScouseassassin Reagan. G. W. Bush. Moron
@@stephenmurray2851 It's a joke calling him Ray Gun...British sarcasm....YOU MORON!!! And by H.W. Bush I obviously mean George Herbert Walker Bush, G.W Bush is the idiot son, the father was in office in 1988...YOU MORON!!!
@@TheScouseassassin syrian drug dealer Kasser was working for the CIA and was linked to Oliver North who was involved in the iran contra scandal. One of the other suspects was a double agent working for Jordanian intelligence and CIA. This act was carried out by CIA and mossad using Palestinian assets like abu nidal etc
The problem with Pan Am was that they didn’t want to invest in security as TWA did. I was working as a security in that time for TWA on Frankfurt airport and were trained by the Mossad, (Israel secret service) we received daily fax from FBI and from Scotland Yard warning us about a transistor radio or tape recorder with a bomb in it which would be smuggled in in a suitcase in Frankfurt , already 2 months before it happened and keeping receiving daily this same warning, we were so good trained that it was nearly impossible to smuggle anything on our flights but Pan Am hasn’t had any security for their flight which as we know by now was the weakest link and turned out to be fatal mistake. I been asking myself for years why those American Airlines didn’t cooperate in exchanging that vital security information’s their check in was only 10m apart and was the lack of security really for saving money or was there another reason????
That we the bomb being smuggled in London Heathrow is not necessarily accurate it could have been Frankfurt (so we were told then) and the time of explosion in about 30 min. which is correct for barometric bombs but not necessarily the digital bombs.
I CAN TELL YOU THE WHOLE STORY FROM THE BEGINNING AT MADRIDS AIRPORT UNTILL PAN AMS AIRPLANE EXPODED OVER LOCKERBIE AND NOT OVER THE ATLANTIC OCEAN WHAT WAS PLANNED. BECAUSE OF DENSE AIR TRAFFIC THE 21 DECEMBER 1988 ON HEATHROW THE DUBBLE LAW PRESSURE BOMB WAS TICKING 20 MINUTES TOO MUCH. 20 MINUTES FROM LOCKERBIE IS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ATLANTIC OCEAN. IRAN WANTED TO TAKE REVENGE FOR THE SHOOTING DOWN OF 2 MILITARY AIR PLANES OVER THEIR TERRITORY BY THE AMERICANS EARLIER THAT YEAR.
They didn’t want security because it was a drug smuggling route to fund black ops
The bombs were being placed by baggage handlers, there's nothing you can do about that, because they also operated the x ray equipment back then as well. Yes, the TWA bomb from 1986 was smuggled on board, that's right, but the subject in hand is baggage handlers placing the bombs, like ones ones at Heathrow. 1985 was also the year that Frankfurt airport got bombed also. The Mossad did nothing about those didn't they, so it's got nothing to do with you wanting to kick the Pan Am corpse, especially when 2 TWA flights were bombed and as recently as 1985 back then.
Yes, from a smuggled bomb, but things had already evolved back then and it was a case at using people who operated the x-ray machines then to let the bombs on board.
The problem as well with the TWA smuggled bomb was that most of the fuselage absorbed the explosion and it was able to land, with 7 dead, as you know, and they had to find the bodies of 4 of your mangled passengers on the ground, didn't they.
But bombs were more effective from the luggage bay placed by the baggage handlers by 1988.
Megrahi was given a hero's welcome because he was sacrificed by Libya to ease sanctions on the country.
Now you see who runs the show, if liby didn't pay damages to the victims families, who would? Probably airlines, so this whole show was to save bucks for them.
@@ivangrozny875 of course not. How ridiculous. The main point was to make Lybia responsible for the bombing so as to undermine their credibility in the eyes of the international community and justify the West’s bombings of Kadhafi. This had nothing to do with protecting the airlines.
Scotland has one of the best legal systems in the world. So say the legal system in Scotland! I have direct experience of the legal system in Scotland and I can say it is a disgrace to itself. Unfortunately it's just like every other legal system. The only people who believe the legal system is good is the people who work in it. Anyone who has been badly treated by a legal system - like myself - knows that the problem is that the legal system is terrified that a guilty person may walk away Scot Free so the entire system is designed to make sure that the most important element of the legal system is the people who work in it. All legal systems are self-serving and self-important. Look at England - they contrived a case against a member of parliament - Andrew Mitchell. The Plebgate incident saw an off-duty Police officer send a fake email to say that he heard the MP call the on-duty officer 'a Pleb'. It later came to light that the officer had lied and when Mitchell sued for libel he lost the case!!! Scotland pursued Megrahi on bad 'evidence' and the most import thing being the importance of the Scottish legal system they hunted him down and secured a conviction based on 'group-thinked' circular references. The big issue is that when the only suspect is a bad fit they still pursue it because it's all they have!! What happens to the idiot lawyers and Police officers who got it all wrong? Are they going to go to jail for sending an innocent man to jail? No - because when a legal system makes a colossal mistake it's called an 'honest mistake' but if any member of the public makes a genuine mistake it's called 'breaking the law'. We are all being oppressed by human beings who work in the legal systems around the world because they're all terrified that a guilty man 'gets away with it'. You only find out how bad they are when you're the guy getting stitched up because up to that point you just don't know that's what they do!! Currently we have the German legal system trying to fit-up a man for abducting Madelaine McCann. He may well be guilty but you just know that he's getting stitched up because someone has to get it. All legal systems shame themselves and Scotland's did that with aplomb. I'm ashamed of our legal system and what they did to Megrahi but the people involved are probably all retired on big pensions and will all keep their head down when the fact is they ruined a man's life. Their careers were defined by a totally blundered prosecution and they were rewarded with big pensions - at least they can enjoy their retirement!
Tell me about it pal. I just saw a kid get 18 years for something he didn't do.
If it was a pressure trigger it would have gone off on the feeder flight.
CIA
There was an american senator on board also a number of active american military personnel on board,what were they upto??????????
So why did they put Qadaffi's name into this? I guess he drank a bad batch of single malt and sent it as a message... Really, they wanted a reason to blame Libya about something... I'm not saying Libya is perfect, but this just proves how ready they are to accuse and condemn without facts
Because Libya was doing away wirth the petrodollar.
iran contra
If u want to know why. U have to understand the geopolitics and history. They wanted this to happen and it was a false flag operation to frame gaddafi and libya. They did the same thing in other attacks. Former mossad agent victor ostrovsky acknowledged in his book that Mossad had set up fake transmit messages which would convince the americans gaddafi was sponsoring terrorism and the disco bombing was also blamed on libya but a German tv show exposed it to be a CIA Mossad act.
Cover up of a convenience is worth a read
False flag ?
Cornelis Schutter
Noooooo. Drug cover up, shipping heroin on pan am plane with no knowledge of pan am
R T why would they blow up the drugs ? Your explanation is weak. Can you elaborate ?
Cornelis Schutter definitely a false flag. I think I heeard something about I think AIDS doctors or something
@@Summernightsandneonlights that was the plane that was shot down over ukraine by russia. A team of scientists are said to have made great strides in helping cure aids were in their way to australia for an aids convention. They had all their lives work on that plane. All their progress seemingly destroyed
@@Summernightsandneonlights one word to frame gaddafi
WOW. I really do wonder if the money that was paid out,replaced the people that died
Host, stop interrupting them Jesus..let em.talk
Abu Nidal ANO group did the attack with Mossad influence
Blame Libya
Abu nidal was working for mossad and the US. Read Patrick seale book
@@tj5180 I have the book
@@tj5180 add PFLP-GC with Ahmed Jabril. Ramzi Diab was a Mossad Mole within the PFLP-GC and was eventually killed by Jibril when he found out. You’re correct ANO and the Mossad did work together in some capacity
@@darinharvey9186 sounds like it's true that mossad has a long history of using Palestinian splinter groups to carry out false flags. Which were handled by mossad.
@@tj5180 we can agree on that for sure
I am wandering why no one explains clearly the route of the suitcase containing the bomb along with its passenger. If I understood correctly the suitcase boarded a plane from Malta to Frankfurt and then transferred to the Pan Am flight # 103 via London Heathrow. What about the passenger? Isn't the passengersupposed to travel together with its luggage? Can someone explain me this?
Passengers and luggage did not have to stay together at that time.
@@tracyd1233 Yes they did, since the Air India 182 bombing 3 years prior.
"NO SHOW" WAS PRACTISED AFTER LOCKERBIE
I believe laws were changed as a result of this bombing requiring baggage to be accompanied by the traveller on the flight
@@Bellasie1 wasn’t implemented until after Pam Am 103
Weird!!! Lockerbie is not on flight path between London and New York!!! How do you describe this story?
Maybe this route was chosen to avoid the 200mph head wind we call the jet stream. Obviously the bomber didn't know this which is why the plane came down over Lockerbie instead of the Atlantic.
@@antman5474 I believe it was to avoid some weather but the fact it didn’t blow up over the Atlantic was due to the flight being delayed
Flights to American from London always fly up to Scotland then turn left
How is behind it
How was on board
Why they killed innocent people
It must be big country it can't be those people
The book flash references Hanlon's Razor. Something that all too often applies to US DOJ / FBI statements to Congressmen and Senators like Jim Jordan and Josh Hawley, respectfully.
answer : why Ronnie Reagan and company were of course
AIC=ASN=IBF= etats peed🤔🤔🤔
The bomb maker was Jordanian Marwan kreesat
MI5 , CIA, MOSAD Thats who
m15 put the bomb on the plane
If megrahi had been tried in a Scottish court he would have walked out of the court a free man
Short time to live yet survived for almost 3 years!
True
I caught the women who knew a lot, the Libyan worked at the Maltese airport along with a maltese high ranking officer from Valletta who at the time worked in airport security. I know all this because my ex partner said her husband told her to shut her mouth on what she knew
Do you think Iran was involved at all? I mean we have all circumstantial evidence because the prosecution decided not to pursue the other leads. They were biased against Al Megrahi
***** Revenge was a very likely motive for the Airbus. We don't have hard evidence for anything of course but that is most likely and many intelligence officials have gone on unofficially telling their personal beliefs about who was responsible, and Iran is a popular belief, despite the dumb deal to charge Libyan guys without full evidence.
Sure you do buddy
@@AceofDlamonds iran wasn't involved. No evidence has been shown. Tho they had a motive but the real ones benefited and carried out the attack was the CIA and mossad. It has to do with the Iran contra scandal
@@tj5180 nonsense
al-Megrahi Is an innocent man! RIP
I know. I feel sorry for Abdelbasset al-Meghgrahi. He was battling with prostate cancer. I just mourn his loss. I know he is innocent. Wrongly convicted he didn't commit all because of the terrorist bomber Abu Agila Masud aided by Muammar Quadaffi. The other reluctant witness is a career criminal who has an unknown name who backed al-Meghgrahi up.
Was it proved that Abdelbaset Al-Megrahi was the culprit
No. All the evidence was fabricated
He was wrongfully convicted and he didn't commit. All because of Abu Agila Masud as a real murderer in the cold case.
What happened to my comment? As soon as I posted it dis!
Ahmed Jibril and the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine - General Command (PFLP-GC).
Echt, der ist ausgerechnet in Tripolis verreckt,?
Lybian Airways 1103 1992
Morag Kerr is a legend ;)
possible links with several federal agencies and epstein wanted to buy pan am in 1987.
typical snp lesbain
When that ,person who did the bombing ,was released. I was speechless.
*AND THE DNA EXAM? WHERE IS?* 🧬🧫😡