I'm a bus driver, this guy needs to loose his licence, he forcibly used his companies 12 tonne bus as a object to push a cyclist off the road, red light runner or not, driver was very dangerous, cyclist could have ended up under the rear wheel or head on in to a lamp post. Report to the TFL and police. AND STOP RUNNING RED LIGHTS
I agree with you very much, however he did not run the lights at 1:20 he tried to position himself to the front but all the cars stoped in the ALS box and as he slowed the lights changed so he followed through.
@@MFizzle777 He ran the red light. He was on the pedestrian crossing when the lights changed to red/amber. Rules 71 & 69 of the highway code. Also red/amber means stop. You must not move off until the green light shows.
Can't believe people regard an amateur road user - a cyclist - running a red light (which I agree he shouldn't do) as if it were equally serious, or more serious, than a professional PCV driver deliberately driving a double decker bus at a vulnerable road user. Jumping the red light is an offence which, quite rightly, isn't going to be prosecuted or pursued because police and prosecuters have better things to do with their day. But the bus driver's conduct ought to be regarded by his employer as gross misconduct. I don't know about anyone else, but the language alone that the bus driver uses would be enough to get me sacked.
I'm a bus driver. When I get too close to a cyclist because I didn't see them until the last minute I hold my hand up to apologise. Don't care how many red lights they've been through
I can't believe how many comments here are defending the bus driver. He deliberately steered his 6 tonne bus towards the kerb and would have pushed this cyclist off his bike and possibly under the rear wheels of the bus almost certainly killing him, if the cyclist hadn't 'bunny hopped' on to the pavement. Why did the bus driver do this? If you stop the video at 2:03 you see a black SUV, which is blocking the outside lane and for the bus driver to get to the back of queue at the next set of lights 100 yards ahead, as soon as possible, he needs to occupy the full width of the inner lane. The bus is 'out of service' carrying no passengers and the driver isn't stopping to pick up passengers either. He is simply bullying the cyclist out of the way, because he wants to occupy that lane to get to the lights asap, where the cyclist will pass him again anyway! There are also no other cyclists behind J W (watch the video from 2:10 when the bus stops and you'll see the next cyclist passes at 2:30), so our bus driver could have safely moved into the inside lane immediately behind J W delaying his urgent appointment with the back of the queue by only a couple of seconds. Some comments claim J W passed a red light at 1:23 as the lights didn't change until 1:25. If you stop the video at 1:20 as J W approaches the lights you can see there are two vehicles illegally occupying the bike box. J W slows down and moves to the safest position just ahead of these two cars on the left of the road, so as not to unnecessarily obstruct them. Before he comes to a complete stop the lights change and so he accelerates away. Cyclists do kill pedestrians (about 3 per year), but to my knowledge no cyclist has ever managed to kill a driver as they are protected by a metal box, seat belts and air bags. Drivers on the other hand kill about 1800 people a year twitter.com/i/status/1148622845695557632 So please stop this nonsense about cyclists endangering other road users, unless a pedestrian is involved. I appreciate that drivers are frustrated when cyclists make faster progress in traffic than they do and that cyclists can sometimes delay them, but most of the congestion is due to all the larger vehicles, not the cyclists. If you're a bus driver you have to drive a bus, but for those driving themselves the solution is simple. Use a bicycle rather than a car and your journey will be quicker, cheaper, healthier and a lot less frustrating!
Don't talk sense on here! Its full of gammons and clarkson acolytes fewming because they are overweight, impotent and their wives prefer their vibrators these days. They need someone to vent their frustration on.
Cleo Macy dumb yes, but would he have killed someone? Remember too, most of this infrastructure obviously tossed in bike lanes as an afterthought. In my city lights don’t get triggered by bicycles so we constantly have to run them. That bus driver could have driven behind the cyclist and pulled over for his passengers 1/2 a second later. I drive commercial trucks in America, if they know how to drive over there too they know you should always be checking your mirrors, and your responsibility isn’t to enforce traffic laws by trying to kill cyclists. It’s to protect your vehicle and prevent accidents from happening in the first place. Police would eventually talk to the cyclist, not your job. Never your job to enforce traffic laws, just adapt to the conditions and drive accordingly with safety as the priority.
Regardless of what the cyclist did or did not do...there is no excuse for a bus driver who could see him, to run him off the road. It is a shared lane.
Unfortunately, a lot of old farts and hags on the road seem to still believe in the false idea that "the road is for motor vehicles only with at least four wheels", therefore, bikes (and sometimes motorbikes) aren't considered part of that. It's the same reason why people still believe in the fictional "road tax" (which hasn't existed since at least 1937).
I am a bus driver and I think you are right, this bus driver is an idiot. We are taught to give you guys enough space when we need to overtake a bicycle at least 1.2 m. You will meet this mistake when a bus driver is running late. I know, but we are not all the same.
The comments are insane on this video. Why are people even defending the bus driver? The cyclist was run off the road in the cycle lane and all you mfers can talk about is how the bicyclist ran a red light beforehand. If he was in a car outside the bus and cycle lane and he was ran off the road, it would clearly be the fault of the person who ran them off the road. You car-brain mfers just can't fathom a driver being at fault for the risks faced by the cyclist. Double-standards.
We live in a world full of entitled narcissists who stick up for each other. The type that would hit a cyclist at 50mph then blame the cyclists death on them not wearing a helmet.
I’m a cyclist ( and cycling proficiency instructor in a past life) and like most also a driver. Bottom line is it doesn’t matter if you think your in the right if your /being scraped off the road due to being flattened. You are extremely vulnerable on a bike and should cycle defensively at all times. In my opinion all cyclists should be trained and have passed a test. So many cyclists are a danger to themselves and all other road users including other cyclists. There should also be separate cycle paths. It is concerning that there is house building going on all over the country and the roads and pathways that are being built by the developers still do not account for cyclists. This should be mandatory.
You know the comment is going to be a generic full of shit mildly veiled ant cycling post when it begins "Im a cyclist..." Then of course the obligatory high ground of road sharing/velnerability etc etc without any reference to the video.
Heres what I mean by generic, and this could equally apply: "I'm a car driver ( and a driving instructor in a past life ) and like most I also cycle. Bottom line is it doesn't matter if you think you're in the right if your being scraped off the road due to being flattened by an hgv. You are extremely vulnerable in a car and should drive defensively at all times. In my opinion all car drivers should be further trained and have passed extended tests once a year. So many car drivers are a danger to theselves as well as other car drivers. There should also be seperate car driving lanes. It is concerning that there is house building going on all over the country and the roads and pathways that are being built still do not account for car drivers. This should be mandatory." Generic thinly veiled anti cycling bull shit at its finest!
@@adz124ps how many cyclists using the road have even read the highway code? Do cyclists have insurance for when they've hit a pedestrian? I've had many experiences of cyclists going through red lights at pelican crossings and even going over Zebra crossing when other traffic has stopped for pedestrians to cross... will you be claiming I'm anti cyclist now for pointing out these couple of facts?
The cyclist doesn't follow the road law anyway as he cycled straight through a red light, if he doesn't care about other road users why should they care about him.
You know as a motorist I hold my hands up and was expecting to see the cyclist at fault but OMG, this bus driver should be sacked immediately, he is dangerous!!
@@Lee77 I can't imagine there is anywhere in Holland where there aren't cyclists. Where were you? Clearly not Amsterdam th-cam.com/video/pqQSwQLDIK8/w-d-xo.html or Utrecht th-cam.com/video/xuDeF6pd2DA/w-d-xo.html
As a bus driver myself, that was terrible forward planning and he should have held back or allow you to pass on his nearside. He didn't even indicate his intentions. He should be reported and given a driving evaluation. Most bus companies use a training bus with an instructor to evaluate drivers who have had complaints or been involved in accidents. Perhaps he had a bad day or needs more training.
In fairness though, as a cyclist, if he had not run the red light at the previous intersection then he would have never been in that position in the first place. Secondly, reading the road ahead is vital, no matter what transport you use. I was anxious the second I saw the bus stop ahead.... had I been in that situation I would never attempt any pass on the inside, preferring instead to drop back behind a bus until I know whether it is about to pull into the stop or no.
You mean you don't pretend you are sitting back in a car in luxury instead of sweating away at a bedstead on wheels while the sweat drips down your stupid face and women laugh at you.
Look at all the trolls in the comment section LMAO!! This bus driver needs to go on a road awareness and road rage course immediately. I hope the company sacked him, hes going to kill or seriously injure someone driving like this otherwise.
2 wrongs will never make it right bikes did not stop at red lights rode on wrong side of road so 2 a holes need education, road awareness and road rage course's
@@buddyclem7328 I believe @ThreePaintballFreak is talking about 1:10secs in, where cyclist moves into opposing traffic lane to overtake the two lanes on his side of the road.
The UK was never really set up to accommodate cyclists as they don't contribute to the funding of the roads (the UK is very clear on this, if you don't pay for it, you can't have it)
@@guillaumeklimczak7563 what are you on about? Unless all cyclists are homeless.and jobless, they contribute as much as anyone else. "Road Tax" is just basically emissions tax... that's why electric cars are exempt.
Cyclist running red light was 100% wrong, but a deranged psychotic bus driver has no right to appoint himself as judge, jury and damn near executioner because he’s aggrieved. Bus driver needs a damn good kicking trying to use his vehicle as a weapon. He also needs to consider another profession, as he clearly hasn’t got the temperament for his current one.
Doesnt matter who is to blame or who has done what, I drive a bus and as much as cyclist piss me off I always try and give them space. wouldnt want one or several moments of madness on my conscience for the rest of my life. Theres always going to be arguments between all road users. Just give the cylist a little room, call them a wanker and get on with your day. They are vulnerable. 12 ton bus versus man on bike isn't the solution.
In that instance of the bus cutting in on the cyclist the driver broke the rules. For the driver cursing and swearing in public on the job is also a big no no. I am a professional driver driving large vehicles "Busses, Coaches, HGV's" and instructed on them also. What the driver did was wrong and would be close to losing his job if shown to his superiors.
I am a motorbiker and People keep saying in the comments the road cycle ran a red light he did NOT he got to a set of traffic lights as they changed from red to flashing yellow wich you can clearly see on the oposit side of the road!!!!!! Plus the bus lane can now be used by motor bikes and road cycles as the law change a while back the bus driver was an idiot and needs a refresh on road law he also should be diciplined at least as he could have killed the biker.The cycle/motorbike/ bus lane has also been painted a nice blue with white cycles bus lane all over it so you can not miss it.
@@sonsofmatriarchy5552A bit blind, aren't you? 1:14 illegal pass. 1:22 red light ahead 1:23 still red light, cyclist crossing line 1:25 light finally STARTS changing, with yellow warning. Cyclist is already 2/3 way across the intersection
Jimi Banz breaking the law is never legal. Wrong side of the road never safe or legal. Failing to stop at a red light never safe or legal. Cyclists get hit and killed and then laws get changed to keep them safe. Unfortunately too many idiot cyclists think they are the only ones who have the right to the road. I’m not defending the actions of the bus driver who was clearly in the wrong for his actions but if the cyclist wishes to pick and choose which laws should apply to him then he has no right to abuse other road users when they behave as inconsiderate as he does.
the bus driver is in the wrong. I had an experience of this in Birmingham with a diamond bus - fortunately I had my dash cam and reported the issue that was dealt with by the City council. they are wrong and should be reported when they bully on the road.
@the man with the green cortina haha what does this even mean? Why would I be a sheep? Just because I don't drive a 5 litre engine SUV to go buy the milk at the nearby grocery shop?
So many people are saying that the cyclist obstruct the bus, yet, the cyclist was well ahead of the bus at the end of the video while the bus is stuck behind other CARS
The bus driver is a nutter he should not overtake unless it is safe for him to do so and he should lose his job for that. However the cyclist is not that much better going through red lights and going in and out of traffic. I cycle a lot and this kind of behaviour really annoys me. If the bus was cutting me up like that I would have slowed down and let him pass. There both pr**ks in my opinion
@@phil7394 I don't drive so cycle everywhere so cycle more then most. No I don't agree that you should go through red lights ever nor do I think you should weave in and out of traffic. If there was a bus up my arse like that I would back off a little. Granted the bus driver was also very bad and should not be behind the wheel. I agree though he nearly got killed for no reason
@@phil7394 i would never stop level with a bus or lorry at lights that's asking for trouble and most lights allow cyclists to go to the front. Thankfully I don't live in a city so maybe things are different but I would never personally filter traffic like he does or go through lights.
@@johnstone2728 the light was red when he crossed the stop line, the lights were amber as he entered the junction, amber also means stop. The light only turns green as he exits the junction, do you still think he didn't jump the lights? As for the bus driver that was a dangerous overtake. What I don't understand is why the cyclist doesn't try and keep himself safe when endangered like this as personally I would slow down. Of course it makes a better video if you don't try and avoid the incident (as per highway code advice) and start hitting the bus. The driver is wrong, but I have no sympathy for the cyclist for the way he reacts, making a bad situation worse.
At 1.26, you go straight through a red light after riding on the WRONG side of the road (something could have easily come from the other side) Then instead of easing off and being defensive, you become offensive. Have you forgotten which, irrespective of the rights and wrongs, who is going to hospital>>>????? You display a total lack of respect for other road users, and then when it's done to you, you become all self indignant and righteous! You should look at your own faults prior to calling out someone else! What a total pratt you are!
Yeah, he's a terrible road user. I agree 100%, thumbed-up your comment. But nothing he did merited the death penalty, especially meted out by some random motor vehicle operator.
@@SolarJakee No Jake, they die because they are NOT looking where they are going, don't practice road craft (or indeed don't have any) and are probably wearing headphones so can't hear what is going on around them !
@@sammorrisuk4584 can you show where the highway code says you (any road user) can go through a red light? Even if it is a second or two before it changes?
Alright ignore the passing the red light and riding down the wrong side of the road. Why would a bus driver drive down the road with his doors open and slanting onto the bicycle lane
The bus driver passes with less than 3 feet clearance between himself and the cyclist then cuts over before fully passing the cyclist; a cut and dry case of running him off the road and the bus driver ignoring the presence of the cycle lane. Some people here are claiming the cyclist ran a red light just before, when in fact the cyclist was coming to a stop when the lights started changing so he proceeded. Even if you believe he ran the light, that isn't relevant to the fact that the bus driver nearly killed the cyclist.
01:22 Rule 71 You MUST NOT cross the stop line when the traffic lights are red. Some junctions have an advanced stop line to enable you to wait and position yourself ahead of other traffic (see Rule 178).
The advanced stop line or "cycle box" is blocked illegally by asshole divers, so the cyclist had to make choice between slightly jumping the lights (they change as he moves if you look to the right of the screen) and his own safety, he made the right decision.
Don't usually say this, regardless of previous issues in video, I'm with the cyclist. You don't just cut someone up and not expect them to be pissy. Bus knew there's a cyclist there, overtook and cut in front on purpose.
Why can't everyone remember we all use the roads. Be careful to one another. Because if u drive like a dickhead and end up hurting someone or worse killing them. U can't ever take it back.
It's so irritating the undue amount of vitriol cyclists get, in this scenario for the bus to have overtaken and the moved across, knowing the cyclist was alongside him was nothing but intent to cause harm. Is that a person that should be in charge of a vehicle. If you think the cyclist was wrong here I would have a word with yourself. No
You’re in the wrong too mate .. but that’s nothing compared to the behaviour of that so called “professional” bus driver.. should lose his PSV licence for sure.. complete idiot, Police should be involved. Hopefully his employers see this and sack him before he kills somebody
@@coastliner7009 ever thought the road is dangerous because of impatient cry babies who want to go 70kmph but get stuck in traffic because of other cry babies trying to go 70kmph while all using their cellphones? Who's more dangerous, a 10 kilo bike or a 2 ton death machine. hmmmmmm which one kills 1.5 million people globally again?
Obviously some commentators can't read a video. he did not run a red light_ it had just changed to amber. The bus driver is a total disgrace, unable to accept that he was in the wrong.
All the people on here who say the cyclist "deserves it" are sadistic idiots who need a thorough assessment. Shameful. Oh and the red light argument? Look at the obstructions he has in the cyclist box. Most new lights let cyclists go first before the traffic anyway as it's safer. This driver should have been arrested. I believe he has been fired from his job anyway?
Mr Smith83 yeah, most don’t realize that if bike infrastructure is shitty sometimes cyclists need to manage risk. In places where roads are just engineered for cars and bikes are an afterthought Ike here waiting for the light may come with the risk of being ran over by motorists, whereas you may be safe passing through the light to get a head start on all that traffic. How many times do people say “I didn’t see that cyclist” well, if he runs that light you noticed didn’t you? Anti-bike people can’t put themselves in any bodies shoes aside from their own selfish little world. The fact remains a bicyclist is far more exposed to danger. Motorists should do well to remember that. In fact before the automobile became mainstream the car was the one getting all the hate, you can find stuff online about the early automobile and the killing spree it had. Did that ever stop? No. Auto deaths are an epidemic. From sedentary diseases to traffic accidents, they’re deadly AF and expensive AF to everything around them. And that can be backed by solid evidence. Bicyclists aren’t killing people, it’s the other way around.
Bingo. like I've been saying for years. If motorists want us to do what they don't and obey the laws/rules 100% of the time. Then they need to practice what they preach and stop putting us in positions where we have to perform split second risk assessments, and be forced to chose between our physical and legal safety. I would have done the exact same thing as this cyclist, EVEN if it was a hard red I would have gone forward of the line and stopped in the crossing (as long as there was nobody on it) I don't want to do these things, if I trusted the car drivers to respect my right to be there, read the situation and have a little patience I would happily stop between them at the line, but I don't, so I wont. I suppose not wanting to die makes me arrogant, entitled etc....etc.
Irrespective of the presences of a bike lane, the bus driver should have completed the overtake safely. So many people commenting about the 'rules of the road' but seem totally ignorant of what the rules are.
You run a red light and then have a nerve to demand that other road users abide by the rules. Cyclists need to understand that if you ""ALL "" ,yes that includes cyclists need to adhere to the rules of the road. People like this cyclists are Hypocrites.
which vehicle was endangered by that amber-gamble? none. Which vehicle was endangered when a massive bus changed lane into the side of another road user? try comparing like with like, fool
@@franciskealey6705 maybe so but when bike riders ride 2 or 3 aside to block traffic and they know that ya trying to get past how rude is that even looking around as they do this is taking the piss if a car runs a red light while people are crossing ooo they could have killed some one take there number plate bike does what can you do
Everyone saying he ran a red light, @1.22 he reaches the ASL box where there are cars in the ASL box and at 1.24 the lights change to Amber. So he proceeds to cycle on through, but if that justifies the bus coming from behind and trying to crush him in your eyes then you need fucking help.
Look again the light is fully red he did jump a red light, even if the light was an red/amber he still should have stopped as it only means prepare to go not keep going. That said the bus driver should be prosecuted, sacked and loose his licence.
@@chris1275cc Yes amber means STOP, but Steven was pointing out that the lights had just changed to RED/AMBER which means prepare to go. The cyclist should not have proceeded past the stop line and in reality as the ASL was full, for whatever reason, should have waited behind. I am a cyclist myself and have had to do this in Birmingham.
@@MsOpportunity68 NO, read the Highway code. RED means ‘Stop’. Wait behind the stop line on the carriageway *RED AND AMBER also means ‘Stop’. Do not pass through or start until GREEN shows* GREEN means you may go on if the way is clear. Take special care if you intend to turn left or right and give way to pedestrians who are crossing. AMBER means ‘Stop’ at the stop line. You may go on only if the AMBER appears after you have crossed the stop line or are so close to it that to pull up might cause an accident. There is NO "prepare to go" or get ready signal. The code is VERY specific about this and for good reason. But thanks for playing. 🤣
@@chris1275cc Agreed, my bad. What is frustrating is the amount of traffic, cycle or otherwise who proceed through both amber and red amber phases when it is clear they should stop. The cyclist himself went through the red amber. Wasn't trying to cause too much of a scene. 👍
The cyclist should have slowed down if he saw the bus on his left. You were in his blind spot. Buses in my area say "cyclist beware, this is a blind spot for the bus driver"
Yes I know, I'm an ex_driver now disabled, the bus driver new he was going to stop, so why did he over take and then stop, if he dune this on his driving teat he would not of past, I know I'm a HGV driver, so don't tell me fools.
@@peteon4wheels627 Jesus someone's mad. The cyclist should know if that he is in a bus stop lane, buses are obviously going to stop there. Use your brain.
Cyclists are the most entitled pricks. Break every traffic law known to man then scream like little bitches when others don't follow the law..... Don't get to have it both ways morons.
You’ve no real right to complain about him cutting you up when you disregard traffic laws as well! At 1.23 You overtook on approach to a junction and deliberately cycled through a red light at said T junction! Putting yourselves and others at risk!
For sure he broke some road laws there but nothing he did was nearly as dangerous as what that bus driver did. That guy should be sacked for having such a beligerant and aggressive attitude. You have to be more responsible than that driving a large vehicle on the road. Thats why bus drivers and HGV drivers have to do far more training.
You failed to notice the two cars and a moped parked in the designated cycle spot at the junction? They should stop before the line to that box. Also, although the cyclist was intending to run the red light it turned amber as he started crossing the junction making it legal. In England you can drive though on amber before it goes green.
Can't believe how many people here are saying the guy in the bus did nothing wrong just because the cyclist filming ran a red light. Both did things wrong, it's just that in the bus situation the cyclist could've been seriously injured. While on the red light the guy clearly slowed down and checked that nobody would be harmed. It's not a matter of saying who did and didn't do the right thing, but of preserving people's life.
To all the ppl saying the bus driver was doing a good thing trying to hit a cyclist Just remember at 1 point in ur life either your kid, parents, grand parents, brother or sister would ride a bike to school, a friend's house or work. Image how you would feel getting the news they are dead just for riding a bike. Cycling remember obey the laws of the road don't jump red lights
@@ticklemetrout9625 last year I would be but a got hit off my bike riding in a cycle lane my helmet saved my life (according to the paramedics) I got away with losing 1 1/2 teeth
j pezza I sympathise with your situation but for me humour is everything. You may not like my kinda humour or others who have joked about bad stuff happening but that’s a different debate. ✌️
Sack the bus driver ! He should have let the cyclist past and then pulled into the stop. His aggressive attitude is an indicator that he really is unfit to drive.
The bus was not in service. Why is it stopping at a stop? It's not. It's a driver 'playing' with a 40 tonne bus against a vulnerable cyclist on a public road.
@@emilylouise1979 look at the traffic light put after the junction it turns red-amber 1 sec afte, there's was no point in stoping, exept for wasting energy and holding the traffic behind you will get up to speed.
Whether it's a cycle lane or not is completely beside the point. The driving was bad and the reaction was worse. He shouldn't be allowed to operate a car, let alone a bus.
So many four wheeled warriors on here who have a problem with cyclists. For the record, vehicle tax doesn't exist. It's a vehicle emissions tax. And even if cyclists were subject to it, by not producing any emissions they don't have to pay it. Cyclists have every right to be on the road. No type of vehicle has a monopoly. Just leave your ego at home, calm down and we can all share the road safely.
Charlie Woodall I'd have gone to the back of the bus and hit the emergency stop button that cuts the engine out, all buses have them and they turn the bus off for a wee while, those precious seconds he gained from trying to kill the cyclist will be lost and when he needs to explain to his bosses why he was delayed they'll review the cctv on board and see why it was done.
Charlie Woodentop. Read your post. A cycle NAZI fails to cut up a bus, so the bus driver should go to jail??? But piss him off anyway for daring not to bow down to a cyclist. Nutcase.
The bus overtakes you,and even before he has passed you he is pulling in and slowing down. This should be an instant dismissal,or at least he needs to be retrained. Can he not see the danger he was putting the cyclist in. I don't know how the cyclist had the restraint not to jump on that bus. The fucking stupid bus driver needs a good hiding. Some of the comments on this are pathetic,they are actually blaming the cyclist for this manoeuvre. I know some cyclists can be annoying sods,but that does not mean that they should be fucking executed. What ever happened to people holding their hands up,and admitting that they made a mistake,and apologising. I am glad I have never had children,because the world we are living in has forgotten how to behave themselves.
Yeah, the cyclist jumped the red light and deserves a fine. The bus driver also almost turned him into roadkill. The bus driver also has to obey the law. This includes not running people over.
Would you be ok about your mom or dad or brother or sister or son or daughter being put in danger by a serious act of complete disregard to anyone around this bus driver ?? He’s supposed to be a professional driver !! He needs taking off the road if he thinks driving like this is ok ! Hope he gets severely reprimanded for this.
That's exactly what they are - I find that on most stretches of road, if I'm doing anything with the car (25mph on tight rural roads), I'm leaving the MAMILs for dead once I get the opportunity to overtake. Bikes are slow and inefficient - I find that walking is much more efficient (very flexible and quick to get going with by comparison to cycling) in urban areas. Also, it must be considered that the road space that cyclists take up should include the road space denied to motorists in front of them - holding up traffic artificially creates empty road space beyond and thus, cycling does take up an awful lot of space and is hence, is inefficient!
@Nigel Buckham Take some lessons in economics will you - the global situation today lays it quite bare that oil is essential as is motor transport - trucks and machinery are essential to food production and need oil - food is something that cyclists need a lot of. If the price of oil goes through the roof, so too will the price of food. It is also safe to say that delaying traffic in general also increases costs including the cost of goods. You need to get real.
@@RedKnight-fn6jr Wow.... don’t like cyclists much do you? Please don’t tar us all with the same brush. Bikes are inefficient, eh? I bet I get way way more miles to the gallon than you. Lol
i drive buses for a living in Australia, I've got to say the more you make a cyclist feel unsafe, the more the government spends your money (taxes) to make them feel safe, and make your life even harder to get around.
It's a shared road system. While I agree with commenters saying that cyclists shouldn't run red lights, that's no excuse for - nor is it even related to - the bus driver using a large weapon in an attempt to scare/intimidate/hurt another human being.
@@georgelane6350 Perpetrators who assault bus staff are vile and need punishment. I speak from experience of 100's of bus trips where I am always ultra polite but 90% of the time still get met by attitude. Been like that for c40 years. Granted, a significant number of car drivers are ignorant. Happy Christmas.
Please if you see this like this comment. This comment section is where the stupidest people on youtube seemed to have conveved. This comment is all you need.
@Tim Smith You are so full of shit. You clearly care enough to bother having this conversation. You say that i'm a sheeple for wanting a comment to get more attention because its apt? How am i blindly following anything? Lets face it. You are just bitter and angry and imagined that a stupid person had written the comment. I wanted the comment to get more likes, because i want people to be better informed, not really expecting it to happen. You are wanting to do the same thing... only difference is i am not making assumptions about individuals.
@Tim Smith "i commented on a stupid thick adult who actuallt thinks that youtube comments make a difference" why you commenting if it doesn't make a differnece? .... stupid adult arent you tim....
This is the frustrating thing about cyclists in London and UK cities to a lesser extent. Our system is not designed for cyclists. There is always the issue of larger quicker modes of transport causing a risk to slower more vulnerable modes. Having said that one of the comments referenced a good example of cycle lanes as Amsterdam. Many cyclists there pose a risk to less mobile pedestrians as they just ring their bell and carry on at high speed without paying much attention to pedestrians. Similarly pedestrians have been killed in the UK by cyclists on pavements, as many cycle on them, even though the law prohibits them from cycling on pavements. They are aloud to cycle on areas that look like pavements though, which is confusing, such as cycle paths adjacent to pavements. In other words cyclists regularly break rules (not all cyclists of course) which pose a risk to and annoy others, as the cyclist did here riding straight through a red light while all the other traffic is sat patiently, which is unequivocally illegal. Riding a bicycle clearly gives one the right to move through slow/parked traffic in a legal fashion, but not an illegal one. He was on the road (public highway) and he should follow the rules accordingly. Clearly the bus driver put him at risk and I understand his frustration regarding that. However, he cycles through red lights and posts this online as though he has done nothing wrong. This is typical of some cyclists, particularly in London in my experience. When cyclists behave as they are meant to on roads others are more likely to behave as they are meant to. There is a sense amongst most road users that some cyclists think the rules don't apply to them, and this poster is a good example.
More often than not though, don't you think that the problem is that most road users are simply ignorant of the rules of the road and what is expected of them and other road users? And as you also indicated, a general lack of observance towards what's going on around them? For example, surely this could have been avoided if the driver had gained a reasonable enough distance ahead of the cyclist before he pulled into the lane?
That street is such a design error. A bus lane is made so buses aren't hindered by traffic and they can reach their stops in time. A cycle lane is made so cyclists don't get mixed in with larger mass and speed of vehicles, reducing the amount of (deadly) incidents and increasing the attractiveness to choosing cycling over the car/public transit. These two should never interfere with each other unless it's a bus stop, in which case it should have extra attention to markings so both sides know what to do.
I'm a bus driver, this guy needs to loose his licence, he forcibly used his companies 12 tonne bus as a object to push a cyclist off the road, red light runner or not, driver was very dangerous, cyclist could have ended up under the rear wheel or head on in to a lamp post. Report to the TFL and police. AND STOP RUNNING RED LIGHTS
I agree with you very much, however he did not run the lights at 1:20 he tried to position himself to the front but all the cars stoped in the ALS box and as he slowed the lights changed so he followed through.
@@MFizzle777 1:20 is clear, he does run the red light, but that is nothing compared with what the busdriver did.
He did not run the red light. Notice the red + yellow light on the right side of the screen
Camofilms - about the only sensible comment here.
@@MFizzle777 He ran the red light. He was on the pedestrian crossing when the lights changed to red/amber. Rules 71 & 69 of the highway code. Also red/amber means stop. You must not move off until the green light shows.
Can't believe people regard an amateur road user - a cyclist - running a red light (which I agree he shouldn't do) as if it were equally serious, or more serious, than a professional PCV driver deliberately driving a double decker bus at a vulnerable road user. Jumping the red light is an offence which, quite rightly, isn't going to be prosecuted or pursued because police and prosecuters have better things to do with their day. But the bus driver's conduct ought to be regarded by his employer as gross misconduct. I don't know about anyone else, but the language alone that the bus driver uses would be enough to get me sacked.
The general public is at least 50% idiots though. It is what it is
Well said Phil
He doesn't actually run a red, it changes as he gets to it, which is why the scooter that was waiting appears within 3 secs... but nice try
I'm a bus driver. When I get too close to a cyclist because I didn't see them until the last minute I hold my hand up to apologise. Don't care how many red lights they've been through
You are a good driver . A rarity these days
I can't believe how many comments here are defending the bus driver. He deliberately steered his 6 tonne bus towards the kerb and would have pushed this cyclist off his bike and possibly under the rear wheels of the bus almost certainly killing him, if the cyclist hadn't 'bunny hopped' on to the pavement. Why did the bus driver do this? If you stop the video at 2:03 you see a black SUV, which is blocking the outside lane and for the bus driver to get to the back of queue at the next set of lights 100 yards ahead, as soon as possible, he needs to occupy the full width of the inner lane. The bus is 'out of service' carrying no passengers and the driver isn't stopping to pick up passengers either. He is simply bullying the cyclist out of the way, because he wants to occupy that lane to get to the lights asap, where the cyclist will pass him again anyway! There are also no other cyclists behind J W (watch the video from 2:10 when the bus stops and you'll see the next cyclist passes at 2:30), so our bus driver could have safely moved into the inside lane immediately behind J W delaying his urgent appointment with the back of the queue by only a couple of seconds.
Some comments claim J W passed a red light at 1:23 as the lights didn't change until 1:25. If you stop the video at 1:20 as J W approaches the lights you can see there are two vehicles illegally occupying the bike box. J W slows down and moves to the safest position just ahead of these two cars on the left of the road, so as not to unnecessarily obstruct them. Before he comes to a complete stop the lights change and so he accelerates away.
Cyclists do kill pedestrians (about 3 per year), but to my knowledge no cyclist has ever managed to kill a driver as they are protected by a metal box, seat belts and air bags. Drivers on the other hand kill about 1800 people a year twitter.com/i/status/1148622845695557632 So please stop this nonsense about cyclists endangering other road users, unless a pedestrian is involved. I appreciate that drivers are frustrated when cyclists make faster progress in traffic than they do and that cyclists can sometimes delay them, but most of the congestion is due to all the larger vehicles, not the cyclists. If you're a bus driver you have to drive a bus, but for those driving themselves the solution is simple. Use a bicycle rather than a car and your journey will be quicker, cheaper, healthier and a lot less frustrating!
for driver
Don't talk sense on here!
Its full of gammons and clarkson acolytes fewming because they are overweight, impotent and their wives prefer their vibrators these days.
They need someone to vent their frustration on.
Not defending the bus driver but also pointing out the cyclist blew a red light. Both are idiots.
Cleo Macy dumb yes, but would he have killed someone? Remember too, most of this infrastructure obviously tossed in bike lanes as an afterthought. In my city lights don’t get triggered by bicycles so we constantly have to run them. That bus driver could have driven behind the cyclist and pulled over for his passengers 1/2 a second later. I drive commercial trucks in America, if they know how to drive over there too they know you should always be checking your mirrors, and your responsibility isn’t to enforce traffic laws by trying to kill cyclists. It’s to protect your vehicle and prevent accidents from happening in the first place. Police would eventually talk to the cyclist, not your job. Never your job to enforce traffic laws, just adapt to the conditions and drive accordingly with safety as the priority.
20 ton bus but anyway
This bus driver should not be allowed to keep his licence and should not be driving.
Agreement. Bus driving is difficultness and stressful and not suitable for hot head people.
Regardless of what the cyclist did or did not do...there is no excuse for a bus driver who could see him, to run him off the road. It is a shared lane.
Unfortunately, a lot of old farts and hags on the road seem to still believe in the false idea that "the road is for motor vehicles only with at least four wheels", therefore, bikes (and sometimes motorbikes) aren't considered part of that. It's the same reason why people still believe in the fictional "road tax" (which hasn't existed since at least 1937).
He was a shocking driver , should've pulled in behind him. Regardless if the bike was doing stupid things . You can't cut anyone off.
I am a bus driver and I think you are right, this bus driver is an idiot. We are taught to give you guys enough space when we need to overtake a bicycle at least 1.2 m. You will meet this mistake when a bus driver is running late. I know, but we are not all the same.
Love this comment!
The comments are insane on this video. Why are people even defending the bus driver? The cyclist was run off the road in the cycle lane and all you mfers can talk about is how the bicyclist ran a red light beforehand. If he was in a car outside the bus and cycle lane and he was ran off the road, it would clearly be the fault of the person who ran them off the road. You car-brain mfers just can't fathom a driver being at fault for the risks faced by the cyclist. Double-standards.
We live in a world full of entitled narcissists who stick up for each other. The type that would hit a cyclist at 50mph then blame the cyclists death on them not wearing a helmet.
@@muddydog6605 So true. Anything to escape responsibility.
I’m a cyclist ( and cycling proficiency instructor in a past life) and like most also a driver. Bottom line is it doesn’t matter if you think your in the right if your /being scraped off the road due to being flattened. You are extremely vulnerable on a bike and should cycle defensively at all times. In my opinion all cyclists should be trained and have passed a test. So many cyclists are a danger to themselves and all other road users including other cyclists.
There should also be separate cycle paths. It is concerning that there is house building going on all over the country and the roads and pathways that are being built by the developers still do not account for cyclists. This should be mandatory.
What??????
Thank you. Someone with knowledge, experience and commonsense.
You know the comment is going to be a generic full of shit mildly veiled ant cycling post when it begins "Im a cyclist..."
Then of course the obligatory high ground of road sharing/velnerability etc etc without any reference to the video.
Heres what I mean by generic, and this could equally apply:
"I'm a car driver ( and a driving instructor in a past life ) and like most I also cycle. Bottom line is it doesn't matter if you think you're in the right if your being scraped off the road due to being flattened by an hgv. You are extremely vulnerable in a car and should drive defensively at all times. In my opinion all car drivers should be further trained and have passed extended tests once a year. So many car drivers are a danger to theselves as well as other car drivers.
There should also be seperate car driving lanes. It is concerning that there is house building going on all over the country and the roads and pathways that are being built still do not account for car drivers.
This should be mandatory."
Generic thinly veiled anti cycling bull shit at its finest!
@@adz124ps how many cyclists using the road have even read the highway code?
Do cyclists have insurance for when they've hit a pedestrian? I've had many experiences of cyclists going through red lights at pelican crossings and even going over Zebra crossing when other traffic has stopped for pedestrians to cross... will you be claiming I'm anti cyclist now for pointing out these couple of facts?
That driver shouldn't be allowed behind the wheel. His reaction shows what kind of person he is, he needs some help before he kills someone. Shocking.
After pressing the door open button you should have gone around to the rear of the bus and pulled the fuel cut off valve.
The cyclist doesn't follow the road law anyway as he cycled straight through a red light, if he doesn't care about other road users why should they care about him.
IDIOT thing to say
You know as a motorist I hold my hands up and was expecting to see the cyclist at fault but OMG, this bus driver should be sacked immediately, he is dangerous!!
Bus/coach and lorry drivers are classed as professional drivers and should drive to an advanced standard.
We've just witnessed this bus driver's last day of work.
this country is light years behind Holland , with their vast net work of vehicle free lanes, round abouts with their own traffic lights etc etc
Can i ask which part of Holland were you in where you seen loads of cyclists because when I was driving threw I seen non
@@Lee77 Does tapping that white cane interfere with your driving....
@@Lee77 I can't imagine there is anywhere in Holland where there aren't cyclists. Where were you? Clearly not Amsterdam th-cam.com/video/pqQSwQLDIK8/w-d-xo.html or Utrecht th-cam.com/video/xuDeF6pd2DA/w-d-xo.html
As a bus driver myself, that was terrible forward planning and he should have held back or allow you to pass on his nearside. He didn't even indicate his intentions. He should be reported and given a driving evaluation. Most bus companies use a training bus with an instructor to evaluate drivers who have had complaints or been involved in accidents. Perhaps he had a bad day or needs more training.
As a coach driver I agree. I don't know why he drove like he did. I would have followed cyclist for a bit then stopped. Gained nothing by going past.
In fairness though, as a cyclist, if he had not run the red light at the previous intersection then he would have never been in that position in the first place. Secondly, reading the road ahead is vital, no matter what transport you use. I was anxious the second I saw the bus stop ahead.... had I been in that situation I would never attempt any pass on the inside, preferring instead to drop back behind a bus until I know whether it is about to pull into the stop or no.
I'd report this to the police. Avoid going to the bus company. Dangerous driving.
And they'd arrest the cycle Nazi for dangerous driving, idiot.
I think you'll find a cyclist cannot "drive" dangerously. Genius
You mean you don't pretend you are sitting back in a car in luxury instead of sweating away at a bedstead on wheels while the sweat drips down your stupid face and women laugh at you.
Look at all the trolls in the comment section LMAO!!
This bus driver needs to go on a road awareness and road rage course immediately. I hope the company sacked him, hes going to kill or seriously injure someone driving like this otherwise.
2 wrongs will never make it right
bikes did not stop at red lights rode on wrong side of road so 2 a holes need education, road awareness and road rage course's
@@mabisfab77paintball Lmao heres another one...
@@mabisfab77paintball Hey genius, it's not the wrong side of the road, because it's in *_England!_*
bicycle was
@@buddyclem7328 I believe @ThreePaintballFreak is talking about 1:10secs in, where cyclist moves into opposing traffic lane to overtake the two lanes on his side of the road.
I live in holland and i find it funny how you guys organize the roads here its impossible for a biker and a bus to be on the same lane
Ronline yeah these UK roads are extremely dangerous compared to ours.
The UK was never really set up to accommodate cyclists as they don't contribute to the funding of the roads (the UK is very clear on this, if you don't pay for it, you can't have it)
@@guillaumeklimczak7563 really?
@@guillaumeklimczak7563 what are you on about? Unless all cyclists are homeless.and jobless, they contribute as much as anyone else.
"Road Tax" is just basically emissions tax... that's why electric cars are exempt.
Lost all respect for this cyclist, and this video, when he cycled through a red light.
Exactly
Yeah exactly what i was thinking and bus driver needs to use his mirrors
Cyclist running red light was 100% wrong, but a deranged psychotic bus driver has no right to appoint himself as judge, jury and damn near executioner because he’s aggrieved.
Bus driver needs a damn good kicking trying to use his vehicle as a weapon. He also needs to consider another profession, as he clearly hasn’t got the temperament for his current one.
Doesnt matter who is to blame or who has done what, I drive a bus and as much as cyclist piss me off I always try and give them space. wouldnt want one or several moments of madness on my conscience for the rest of my life. Theres always going to be arguments between all road users. Just give the cylist a little room, call them a wanker and get on with your day. They are vulnerable. 12 ton bus versus man on bike isn't the solution.
The cyclist on the cycle lane bus comes a long a cuts him up, What does the highway code have to say about that ?
Dambuster I haven’t blamed the cyclist. Unsure what your getting at.
Well said mate pity there wasnt more like you
Someone bringing some sanity to this comments section thank you
In that instance of the bus cutting in on the cyclist the driver broke the rules. For the driver cursing and swearing in public on the job is also a big no no. I am a professional driver driving large vehicles "Busses, Coaches, HGV's" and instructed on them also. What the driver did was wrong and would be close to losing his job if shown to his superiors.
I am a cyclist and I stop at RED LIGHTS ... You Did Not ... You had some Karma!
I am a motorbiker and People keep saying in the comments the road cycle ran a red light he did NOT he got to a set of traffic lights as they changed from red to flashing yellow wich you can clearly see on the oposit side of the road!!!!!! Plus the bus lane can now be used by motor bikes and road cycles as the law change a while back the bus driver was an idiot and needs a refresh on road law he also should be diciplined at least as he could have killed the biker.The cycle/motorbike/ bus lane has also been painted a nice blue with white cycles bus lane all over it so you can not miss it.
The lights did not change from red until he was half way through the intersection.
@@stevenreed5514 Wrong
@@sonsofmatriarchy5552A bit blind, aren't you?
1:14 illegal pass.
1:22 red light ahead
1:23 still red light, cyclist crossing line
1:25 light finally STARTS changing, with yellow warning. Cyclist is already 2/3 way across the intersection
@@marvinkitfox3386 WRONG...
All legal if you're a Cyclist know the facts.
Jimi Banz breaking the law is never legal. Wrong side of the road never safe or legal. Failing to stop at a red light never safe or legal. Cyclists get hit and killed and then laws get changed to keep them safe. Unfortunately too many idiot cyclists think they are the only ones who have the right to the road. I’m not defending the actions of the bus driver who was clearly in the wrong for his actions but if the cyclist wishes to pick and choose which laws should apply to him then he has no right to abuse other road users when they behave as inconsiderate as he does.
the bus driver is in the wrong. I had an experience of this in Birmingham with a diamond bus - fortunately I had my dash cam and reported the issue that was dealt with by the City council. they are wrong and should be reported when they bully on the road.
Stopping at red lights is the law, regardless of whether you are cycling or driving. They are there for everyone's safety.
How many pedestrians get tickets everyday for jumping lights?
Albe10 you just made yourself sound a complete bell. Ha ha
@the man with the green cortina one day your kids will be cyclists if they care about the world they live in..
@the man with the green cortina haha what does this even mean? Why would I be a sheep? Just because I don't drive a 5 litre engine SUV to go buy the milk at the nearby grocery shop?
So many people are saying that the cyclist obstruct the bus, yet, the cyclist was well ahead of the bus at the end of the video while the bus is stuck behind other CARS
Ran a red light there. As a cyclist myself, that shows your disrespect to other road users and the law.
That was deliberate, no argument against that.
You ran a red light muppet
Stop running red lights.
Driver: f-off f-off f-off
Rider: I'll raise your f-off with 2 x red buttons
Driver: Head explodes!
Red lights are for cyclists too.
@Chris Smith
Not funky!
Didnt he start cycling at the green light?
The bus driver is a nutter he should not overtake unless it is safe for him to do so and he should lose his job for that. However the cyclist is not that much better going through red lights and going in and out of traffic. I cycle a lot and this kind of behaviour really annoys me. If the bus was cutting me up like that I would have slowed down and let him pass. There both pr**ks in my opinion
@@phil7394 I don't drive so cycle everywhere so cycle more then most. No I don't agree that you should go through red lights ever nor do I think you should weave in and out of traffic. If there was a bus up my arse like that I would back off a little. Granted the bus driver was also very bad and should not be behind the wheel. I agree though he nearly got killed for no reason
@@phil7394 i would never stop level with a bus or lorry at lights that's asking for trouble and most lights allow cyclists to go to the front. Thankfully I don't live in a city so maybe things are different but I would never personally filter traffic like he does or go through lights.
He did cut the cyclist off. It's dangerous, against the rules and shouldn't have done that.
Disgraceful, Hope you reported the driver to the Company and Police. Clearly driving without due care in a bus
Biker should be under a car for running the red and the bus driver should be fired for trying to run you over. Neither of you are right.
The positive thing is that no one got hurt
So murder for red light. And slap on the wrist for attacking. Lol you fruitcake!
Some of the comments on here, "You ran a red light so the bus is entitled to run you over" stuff. Mental
The lights had changed when he proceeded through them. Watch the video more closely.
@U bik you need to learn what an IQ is really about.
@@johnstone2728 the light was red when he crossed the stop line, the lights were amber as he entered the junction, amber also means stop.
The light only turns green as he exits the junction, do you still think he didn't jump the lights?
As for the bus driver that was a dangerous overtake.
What I don't understand is why the cyclist doesn't try and keep himself safe when endangered like this as personally I would slow down.
Of course it makes a better video if you don't try and avoid the incident (as per highway code advice) and start hitting the bus.
The driver is wrong, but I have no sympathy for the cyclist for the way he reacts, making a bad situation worse.
@Dr Diablory The irony in your comment is delicious.😂
At 1.26, you go straight through a red light after riding on the WRONG side of the road (something could have easily come from the other side) Then instead of easing off and being defensive, you become offensive. Have you forgotten which, irrespective of the rights and wrongs, who is going to hospital>>>????? You display a total lack of respect for other road users, and then when it's done to you, you become all self indignant and righteous! You should look at your own faults prior to calling out someone else! What a total pratt you are!
Mate I agree
Yeah, he's a terrible road user. I agree 100%, thumbed-up your comment. But nothing he did merited the death penalty, especially meted out by some random motor vehicle operator.
Women cyclists die at a higher rate than male because they are less aggressive. You have to be aggressive if you're going to cycle in London.
@@SolarJakee No Jake, they die because they are NOT looking where they are going, don't practice road craft (or indeed don't have any) and are probably wearing headphones so can't hear what is going on around them !
@@sammorrisuk4584 can you show where the highway code says you (any road user) can go through a red light? Even if it is a second or two before it changes?
Alright ignore the passing the red light and riding down the wrong side of the road.
Why would a bus driver drive down the road with his doors open and slanting onto the bicycle lane
Anyone else see him run a red light?
Loads seen it ...
Oooo
The bus driver passes with less than 3 feet clearance between himself and the cyclist then cuts over before fully passing the cyclist; a cut and dry case of running him off the road and the bus driver ignoring the presence of the cycle lane.
Some people here are claiming the cyclist ran a red light just before, when in fact the cyclist was coming to a stop when the lights started changing so he proceeded. Even if you believe he ran the light, that isn't relevant to the fact that the bus driver nearly killed the cyclist.
Hope he got fired. Dangerous driver ..
That driver's demented. He's on drugs or something.
Harry Smith. You're a loony. Your keepers told me so.
Why was he so angry so fast? he engineered conflict than shat his pants in a tantrum.
01:22 Rule 71
You MUST NOT cross the stop line when the traffic lights are red. Some junctions have an advanced stop line to enable you to wait and position yourself ahead of other traffic (see Rule 178).
The advanced stop line or "cycle box" is blocked illegally by asshole divers, so the cyclist had to make choice between slightly jumping the lights (they change as he moves if you look to the right of the screen) and his own safety, he made the right decision.
Don't usually say this, regardless of previous issues in video, I'm with the cyclist. You don't just cut someone up and not expect them to be pissy. Bus knew there's a cyclist there, overtook and cut in front on purpose.
Why can't everyone remember we all use the roads. Be careful to one another. Because if u drive like a dickhead and end up hurting someone or worse killing them. U can't ever take it back.
Karl Hebdon 🙌🙌🙌
Use Highway Code fella. Your included in red lights
It's so irritating the undue amount of vitriol cyclists get, in this scenario for the bus to have overtaken and the moved across, knowing the cyclist was alongside him was nothing but intent to cause harm. Is that a person that should be in charge of a vehicle. If you think the cyclist was wrong here I would have a word with yourself. No
You’re in the wrong too mate .. but that’s nothing compared to the behaviour of that so called “professional” bus driver.. should lose his PSV licence for sure.. complete idiot, Police should be involved. Hopefully his employers see this and sack him before he kills somebody
Why are you not stopping at lights? You are as bad as the bus driver.
Why all the hate for cyclists in the comments ????
Bus driver was a fucking thug, needs a good slap 👋
Cyclists put themselves indanger by riding on the road thats why most cyclists are killed
@@coastliner7009 ever thought the road is dangerous because of impatient cry babies who want to go 70kmph but get stuck in traffic because of other cry babies trying to go 70kmph while all using their cellphones? Who's more dangerous, a 10 kilo bike or a 2 ton death machine. hmmmmmm
which one kills 1.5 million people globally again?
@@coastliner7009 - add to that: Bikes are children's toys and busy streets are not for playing!
I hope you reported him. That man needs an anger management course. His language and ability to handle a situation is disgusting.
Obviously some commentators can't read a video. he did not run a red light_ it had just changed to amber. The bus driver is a total disgrace, unable to accept that he was in the wrong.
I reckon the bus driver was more pissed that you ran the red light,then he decided to drive by your own logic and ignore simple rules of the road
Guy needs to get fired
He upset a cyclist? Put him in front of a firing squad every dawn for a fortnight.
All the people on here who say the cyclist "deserves it" are sadistic idiots who need a thorough assessment. Shameful. Oh and the red light argument? Look at the obstructions he has in the cyclist box. Most new lights let cyclists go first before the traffic anyway as it's safer. This driver should have been arrested. I believe he has been fired from his job anyway?
Mr Smith83 yeah, most don’t realize that if bike infrastructure is shitty sometimes cyclists need to manage risk. In places where roads are just engineered for cars and bikes are an afterthought Ike here waiting for the light may come with the risk of being ran over by motorists, whereas you may be safe passing through the light to get a head start on all that traffic.
How many times do people say “I didn’t see that cyclist” well, if he runs that light you noticed didn’t you?
Anti-bike people can’t put themselves in any bodies shoes aside from their own selfish little world.
The fact remains a bicyclist is far more exposed to danger. Motorists should do well to remember that.
In fact before the automobile became mainstream the car was the one getting all the hate, you can find stuff online about the early automobile and the killing spree it had. Did that ever stop? No. Auto deaths are an epidemic. From sedentary diseases to traffic accidents, they’re deadly AF and expensive AF to everything around them. And that can be backed by solid evidence.
Bicyclists aren’t killing people, it’s the other way around.
Bingo. like I've been saying for years. If motorists want us to do what they don't and obey the laws/rules 100% of the time. Then they need to practice what they preach and stop putting us in positions where we have to perform split second risk assessments, and be forced to chose between our physical and legal safety. I would have done the exact same thing as this cyclist, EVEN if it was a hard red I would have gone forward of the line and stopped in the crossing (as long as there was nobody on it) I don't want to do these things, if I trusted the car drivers to respect my right to be there, read the situation and have a little patience I would happily stop between them at the line, but I don't, so I wont. I suppose not wanting to die makes me arrogant, entitled etc....etc.
Irrespective of the presences of a bike lane, the bus driver should have completed the overtake safely. So many people commenting about the 'rules of the road' but seem totally ignorant of what the rules are.
The bus drivers reasoning is astonishing - bike lane ends, ram bike user off the road.
As a cyclist myself he shouldn’t have run a red light but that bus driver was awful not thinking that a cyclist was there and just pulled in
You run a red light and then have a nerve to demand that other road users abide by the rules. Cyclists need to understand that if you ""ALL "" ,yes that includes cyclists need to adhere to the rules of the road. People like this cyclists are Hypocrites.
which vehicle was endangered by that amber-gamble? none. Which vehicle was endangered when a massive bus changed lane into the side of another road user?
try comparing like with like, fool
@@Dave-bu6bc yes but maybe so but bikes think they own the roads he got a taste of his own boo hoo what a shame
Dave it's about ALL ROAD USERS obeying the law....Cyclists can't pick and choose when to obey the rules of the road..Hypocrisy at its height...
@@franciskealey6705 maybe so but when bike riders ride 2 or 3 aside to block traffic and they know that ya trying to get past how rude is that even looking around as they do this is taking the piss if a car runs a red light while people are crossing ooo they could have killed some one take there number plate bike does what can you do
Bus driver in the wrong. Pulled alongside the cyclist then cut him up. Bus should have waited for the appropriate moment to pull in.
Everyone saying he ran a red light, @1.22 he reaches the ASL box where there are cars in the ASL box and at 1.24 the lights change to Amber. So he proceeds to cycle on through, but if that justifies the bus coming from behind and trying to crush him in your eyes then you need fucking help.
Look again the light is fully red he did jump a red light, even if the light was an red/amber he still should have stopped as it only means prepare to go not keep going. That said the bus driver should be prosecuted, sacked and loose his licence.
@@sfraser66 Amber does not mean "prepare" it means STOP always.
@@chris1275cc Yes amber means STOP, but Steven was pointing out that the lights had just changed to RED/AMBER which means prepare to go. The cyclist should not have proceeded past the stop line and in reality as the ASL was full, for whatever reason, should have waited behind. I am a cyclist myself and have had to do this in Birmingham.
@@MsOpportunity68 NO, read the Highway code.
RED means ‘Stop’. Wait behind the stop line on the carriageway
*RED AND AMBER also means ‘Stop’. Do not pass through or start until GREEN shows*
GREEN means you may go on if the way is clear. Take special care if you intend to turn left or right and give way to pedestrians who are crossing.
AMBER means ‘Stop’ at the stop line. You may go on only if the AMBER appears after you have crossed the stop line or are so close to it that to pull up might cause an accident.
There is NO "prepare to go" or get ready signal. The code is VERY specific about this and for good reason. But thanks for playing.
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@@chris1275cc Agreed, my bad. What is frustrating is the amount of traffic, cycle or otherwise who proceed through both amber and red amber phases when it is clear they should stop. The cyclist himself went through the red amber. Wasn't trying to cause too much of a scene. 👍
The cyclist should have slowed down if he saw the bus on his left. You were in his blind spot. Buses in my area say "cyclist beware, this is a blind spot for the bus driver"
The bus driver was in the wrong OK, get your fact's right dick head.
@@peteon4wheels627 bicycle crossed continued line, ran over red light and cut a whole lane
Yes I know, I'm an ex_driver now disabled, the bus driver new he was going to stop, so why did he over take and then stop, if he dune this on his driving teat he would not of past, I know I'm a HGV driver, so don't tell me fools.
@@peteon4wheels627 Jesus someone's mad. The cyclist should know if that he is in a bus stop lane, buses are obviously going to stop there. Use your brain.
Runs a red light at 1:23 - puts it on TH-cam... might as well climb back off that high horse fella
Cyclists are the most entitled pricks. Break every traffic law known to man then scream like little bitches when others don't follow the law..... Don't get to have it both ways morons.
Thinks he's on a motorbike, weaving in and out like he owns the road.
@@Boneman131 Who's screaming like a little bitch right now?
To be fair, the cars were blocking the cycle box before the lights
You’ve no real right to complain about him cutting you up when you disregard traffic laws as well! At 1.23 You overtook on approach to a junction and deliberately cycled through a red light at said T junction! Putting yourselves and others at risk!
For sure he broke some road laws there but nothing he did was nearly as dangerous as what that bus driver did. That guy should be sacked for having such a beligerant and aggressive attitude. You have to be more responsible than that driving a large vehicle on the road. Thats why bus drivers and HGV drivers have to do far more training.
He crossed the red light because that's literally the point of a bike. It was a T crossing, literally nothing could put him in danger
You failed to notice the two cars and a moped parked in the designated cycle spot at the junction? They should stop before the line to that box. Also, although the cyclist was intending to run the red light it turned amber as he started crossing the junction making it legal. In England you can drive though on amber before it goes green.
@the man with the green cortina sack him, he's a dangerous asshole. Think I might write to his company.
@the man with the green cortina true
Can't believe how many people here are saying the guy in the bus did nothing wrong just because the cyclist filming ran a red light. Both did things wrong, it's just that in the bus situation the cyclist could've been seriously injured. While on the red light the guy clearly slowed down and checked that nobody would be harmed. It's not a matter of saying who did and didn't do the right thing, but of preserving people's life.
To all the ppl saying the bus driver was doing a good thing trying to hit a cyclist Just remember at 1 point in ur life either your kid, parents, grand parents, brother or sister would ride a bike to school, a friend's house or work. Image how you would feel getting the news they are dead just for riding a bike. Cycling remember obey the laws of the road don't jump red lights
j pezza lighten up will ya chief
@@ticklemetrout9625 last year I would be but a got hit off my bike riding in a cycle lane my helmet saved my life (according to the paramedics) I got away with losing 1 1/2 teeth
j pezza I sympathise with your situation but for me humour is everything. You may not like my kinda humour or others who have joked about bad stuff happening but that’s a different debate. ✌️
@the man with the green cortina u real don't know any1 who rides a bike ? U must have no friends
j pezza if you look enough and keep you’re hand on the brake ya should be fine but in this instance bikers wrong
I hope he gets fired and never gets to be a driver again
Cyclists can be extremely annoying! But as a driver I'm always on the look out for them and know it's my job to not hit them
Tom Duffield that’s the wrong attitude bro, cyclists are road users too.
@@Pau1danelli ye dude i know did you not read my comment? I don't like them but I pay attention and avoids them like a responsible driver!
Tom Duffield I think you’ve made a typo ‘it’s my job TO hit them’ I think you meant 😜🤣🤣✌️
Attempted murder.
Nothing less.
Loose your job.
Agreed!!
Report the driver. Guaranteed loss of job and licence
Atrocious driving by the bus driver with an attitude that reeks of a simple mind.
Evolve Some Pie yes and weaving in and out of cars and jumping red lights isn’t atrocious lol
Sack the bus driver ! He should have let the cyclist past and then pulled into the stop. His aggressive attitude is an indicator that he really is unfit to drive.
The bus was not in service. Why is it stopping at a stop? It's not. It's a driver 'playing' with a 40 tonne bus against a vulnerable cyclist on a public road.
One illegal pass, two red light run... And we haven't even seen the bus yet!
and were are this red light running and illegal pass?
@@emilylouise1979 look at the traffic light put after the junction it turns red-amber 1 sec afte, there's was no point in stoping, exept for wasting energy and holding the traffic behind you will get up to speed.
This video should be called "See How Many Red Lights I Can Run Before A Glaswegian Tries To Flatten Me In London"
Hope you’ve reported this to the company.
Why is it the most aggressive drivers look a meal away from a heart attack
(v)SausageOnABike and the police.
That bus driver must be taken off the road.
So should the cyclist.
Whether it's a cycle lane or not is completely beside the point. The driving was bad and the reaction was worse. He shouldn't be allowed to operate a car, let alone a bus.
So many four wheeled warriors on here who have a problem with cyclists. For the record, vehicle tax doesn't exist. It's a vehicle emissions tax. And even if cyclists were subject to it, by not producing any emissions they don't have to pay it. Cyclists have every right to be on the road. No type of vehicle has a monopoly. Just leave your ego at home, calm down and we can all share the road safely.
He needs jail time. And lots of it. Top marks for pushing the disabled access button just to piss him off a bit more.
Charlie Woodall I'd have gone to the back of the bus and hit the emergency stop button that cuts the engine out, all buses have them and they turn the bus off for a wee while, those precious seconds he gained from trying to kill the cyclist will be lost and when he needs to explain to his bosses why he was delayed they'll review the cctv on board and see why it was done.
Charlie Woodentop. I see NASTY and HATEFUL many people like you here and you make all cyclists look like shite. Is that your intention?
Michael Hill hateful how?
Charlie Woodentop. Read your post. A cycle NAZI fails to cut up a bus, so the bus driver should go to jail???
But piss him off anyway for daring not to bow down to a cyclist.
Nutcase.
Michael Hill know what a nazi is?
I can't stand cyclists, but that bus driver should be sacked for his behaviour.
MegaChocko mate he swears first so that’s irrelevant buses carry more and it’s a bus stop so you’re wrong
I wasn't referring to his language. It's his driving behaviour that was out of order.
The bus overtakes you,and even before he has passed you he is pulling in and slowing down. This should be an instant dismissal,or at least he needs to be retrained. Can he not see the danger he was putting the cyclist in. I don't know how the cyclist had the restraint not to jump on that bus. The fucking stupid bus driver needs a good hiding. Some of the comments on this are pathetic,they are actually blaming the cyclist for this manoeuvre. I know some cyclists can be annoying sods,but that does not mean that they should be fucking executed.
What ever happened to people holding their hands up,and admitting that they made a mistake,and apologising. I am glad I have never had children,because the world we are living in has forgotten how to behave themselves.
Hes from Scotland highlands forgive him its his birthright to be stupid
If the cyclist had stopped at the red lights as he should have then he would be no where near the bus in the first place, hahahahahaha
Yeah, the cyclist jumped the red light and deserves a fine. The bus driver also almost turned him into roadkill. The bus driver also has to obey the law. This includes not running people over.
The bus driver should be jailed for attempted manslaughter. His action was a deliberate endangerment of the cyclist's life.
Would you be ok about your mom or dad or brother or sister or son or daughter being put in danger by a serious act of complete disregard to anyone around this bus driver ?? He’s supposed to be a professional driver !! He needs taking off the road if he thinks driving like this is ok ! Hope he gets severely reprimanded for this.
Congratulations for ignoring the red light!
Rolling road blocks. Cyclists think there in triathlons and own the road. Always looking for a fight.
That's exactly what they are - I find that on most stretches of road, if I'm doing anything with the car (25mph on tight rural roads), I'm leaving the MAMILs for dead once I get the opportunity to overtake. Bikes are slow and inefficient - I find that walking is much more efficient (very flexible and quick to get going with by comparison to cycling) in urban areas. Also, it must be considered that the road space that cyclists take up should include the road space denied to motorists in front of them - holding up traffic artificially creates empty road space beyond and thus, cycling does take up an awful lot of space and is hence, is inefficient!
@@RedKnight-fn6jr Did you even watch the video? Try watching it. Then apply what you wrote to the cyclist cycling after that.
@Nigel Buckham Take some lessons in economics will you - the global situation today lays it quite bare that oil is essential as is motor transport - trucks and machinery are essential to food production and need oil - food is something that cyclists need a lot of. If the price of oil goes through the roof, so too will the price of food. It is also safe to say that delaying traffic in general also increases costs including the cost of goods. You need to get real.
@@RedKnight-fn6jr Wow.... don’t like cyclists much do you? Please don’t tar us all with the same brush. Bikes are inefficient, eh? I bet I get way way more miles to the gallon than you. Lol
i drive buses for a living in Australia, I've got to say the more you make a cyclist feel unsafe, the more the government spends your money (taxes) to make them feel safe, and make your life even harder to get around.
Bus driver needs to lose his job - that was sincerely bad driving.
Only bad driving because he knocked the twat over.
Needs to learn the highway code then start again.
It's a shared road system. While I agree with commenters saying that cyclists shouldn't run red lights, that's no excuse for - nor is it even related to - the bus driver using a large weapon in an attempt to scare/intimidate/hurt another human being.
As an avid cyclist it’s fools like you running lights that wind people including me up. No need for his actions but you were clearly wrong.
Lots of bus drivers are thick. Lots of bike riders have chips on their shoulder. Lethal mix.
Chip on their shoulder is an odd way to describe being frustrated by being assaulted frequently
@@georgelane6350 Perpetrators who assault bus staff are vile and need punishment. I speak from experience of 100's of bus trips where I am always ultra polite but 90% of the time still get met by attitude. Been like that for c40 years. Granted, a significant number of car drivers are ignorant. Happy Christmas.
I'm a bus driver.was ready to attack the cyclist,but he was in the right!terrible bus driving!😕
Please if you see this like this comment. This comment section is where the stupidest people on youtube seemed to have conveved. This comment is all you need.
@Tim Smith It would appear higher and be seen by more
@Tim Smith You... apparently...
@Tim Smith You are so full of shit. You clearly care enough to bother having this conversation. You say that i'm a sheeple for wanting a comment to get more attention because its apt? How am i blindly following anything? Lets face it. You are just bitter and angry and imagined that a stupid person had written the comment. I wanted the comment to get more likes, because i want people to be better informed, not really expecting it to happen. You are wanting to do the same thing... only difference is i am not making assumptions about individuals.
@Tim Smith "i commented on a stupid thick adult who actuallt thinks that youtube comments make a difference" why you commenting if it doesn't make a differnece? .... stupid adult arent you tim....
Get this video to the bus company . No way they will side by him . The last thing they want is their drivers putting in danger the public .
SUGARPOP73 you sound like a kid who was bullied at school. Nobody likes rat 🐀
SUGARPOP73 also the cycle list is ‘putting the public in danger (not they are all ready)’ buy runnin red lights mate
Cyclist pissing n moaning, yet he's the one who runs red lights..
BastardSquad aye and you’re so golden? The light was green by the time he came across the line. Either way it’s not equivalent
This is the frustrating thing about cyclists in London and UK cities to a lesser extent. Our system is not designed for cyclists. There is always the issue of larger quicker modes of transport causing a risk to slower more vulnerable modes. Having said that one of the comments referenced a good example of cycle lanes as Amsterdam. Many cyclists there pose a risk to less mobile pedestrians as they just ring their bell and carry on at high speed without paying much attention to pedestrians. Similarly pedestrians have been killed in the UK by cyclists on pavements, as many cycle on them, even though the law prohibits them from cycling on pavements. They are aloud to cycle on areas that look like pavements though, which is confusing, such as cycle paths adjacent to pavements. In other words cyclists regularly break rules (not all cyclists of course) which pose a risk to and annoy others, as the cyclist did here riding straight through a red light while all the other traffic is sat patiently, which is unequivocally illegal. Riding a bicycle clearly gives one the right to move through slow/parked traffic in a legal fashion, but not an illegal one. He was on the road (public highway) and he should follow the rules accordingly. Clearly the bus driver put him at risk and I understand his frustration regarding that. However, he cycles through red lights and posts this online as though he has done nothing wrong. This is typical of some cyclists, particularly in London in my experience. When cyclists behave as they are meant to on roads others are more likely to behave as they are meant to. There is a sense amongst most road users that some cyclists think the rules don't apply to them, and this poster is a good example.
More often than not though, don't you think that the problem is that most road users are simply ignorant of the rules of the road and what is expected of them and other road users? And as you also indicated, a general lack of observance towards what's going on around them? For example, surely this could have been avoided if the driver had gained a reasonable enough distance ahead of the cyclist before he pulled into the lane?
License needs to be revoked.
The bus driver was in the wrong, however your riding leaves a lot to be desired. Your a drivers worse nightmare weaving in and out of traffic.
That street is such a design error. A bus lane is made so buses aren't hindered by traffic and they can reach their stops in time. A cycle lane is made so cyclists don't get mixed in with larger mass and speed of vehicles, reducing the amount of (deadly) incidents and increasing the attractiveness to choosing cycling over the car/public transit. These two should never interfere with each other unless it's a bus stop, in which case it should have extra attention to markings so both sides know what to do.