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- The 2025 Toyota GR Corolla just got EVEN BETTER!
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I'm buying it in automatic. We have the worst traffic in LA and a manual is just a no go on a daily basis especially after a long shift. 3-4 hr. traffic is just insane in a manual on a daily basis.
If you have the worst traffic in LA...why buy a car that wants to go fast? Just get a Corolla hybrid for the mpg
Im glad they have automatic. Im a disabled driver. I drive with one arm. Need to make more cars for everyone
Sorry to hear that, but I would say there are plenty to choose from since almost everything has an automatic available.
I think you're the rare case where an auto is justified, cheers! :)
I have a Veloster N dct and I rather have this than stick I love this car.
@@jondoe705 Do you know how to drive a manual?
@@jimsgaragetoys yes but I prefer automatic
I have one and its fun, but I find the styling way too busy. These days, automatics are so good that fuel economy is no longer an advantage or the manual, though I'd never get one with an automatic. Totally agree that not having a body color lip at the bottom is a miss - its like the front spoiler got smashed off or something. I find the wheels fussy, and should be a more classic 5 spoke rally wheel instead of something you'd see on a luxury car (easy to change though). They need to be black though as a the brake dust is extreme and its not so noticeable on the black wheels. I do like the new front end (for the most part) and side vents. One odd choice is the rear logo looks like the obvious point where the latch release should be (e.g. VW), especially with that cutout, but they have it at the bottom lip - seems like an odd design choice. The 3 cyl is just fine. You'd never know it was a 3 cyl just driving it though it has nowhere near the tunability of the VW/Audi E888 and is quite thermally "fragile", hence the sub radiator which should be standard not optional. Nothing was mentioned about the rear diff clutch pack which on the current ones cuts out very quickly on track - wonder if that's been improved, or at least the temp threshold on the sensor raised? With The Golf going auto only next year, looks like Toyota will inherit the entire market for this kind of car - if only they could produce more of them! I'll probably get another one in 26'
Only talking about the body design here, this one feels like a change for the sake of change, rather than something that was necessary.
I don't think so - cooling was marginal and this likely improves cooling, and we necessary for the additional sub-radiator
@stuchly1 I agree
99% of mid-cycle bumper refreshes are simply change for the sake of change. In this case, it was done for cooling. Couldn't really be more wrong.
@@spinnetti There have been no radiator related cooling issues though, the cooling issues have been oil related so improving the oil cooler and rear diff cooling would have been an area to work on. Driving in triple digit heat and pulling steep grades I never saw coolant temps rise that much but I did see oil temps climb into the 235-239F range.
I completely agree, and the new number design is ugly while losing the fog lights sucks.
I want one but after hearing about the warranty issues and the car burning down... 😅
The front vents are pretty cool but I love the fog lights on my car
I agree with it needing that front lip. Very happy to hear you bring that up. Great video mate
I like that they made this almost look like a front bumper delete.
Living in heavy traffic makes people want this version of the GR Corolla.
The idea that the occasional inconvenience of having to use your left foot in traffic outweighs the entire experience of a manual transmission is absurd. Do you complain about having to hold the brake pedal with your other foot?
@@TheModernPioneer Yea yea, wahtever. I've driven manuals most of my life. I'd rather have an automatic now. You do you, I do me. How's that? And, it's not an "occasional inconvenience.' Try daily back to back stop and go traffic. It gets tiring.
@@USMC_LAterZ if you’re in daily bumper-to-bumper traffic, why would you buy a sports car in the first place?
@@TheModernPioneer Trying to whittle it down to an "occasional inconvenience" when the majority of people spend a huge amount of time in their commute to work is just asinine. Especially when most people have a singular car. Yes I absolutely want a car I can enjoy without the negative of having to deal with the issues of a manual in heavy traffic. No it isn't at all unreasonable.
I have a manual Z33 right now, and an automatic Tacoma. Guess which one I use more on my commute to work in heavy traffic.
@@MuShinnen yet your own sports car is a manual. I own only one vehicle which is a manual, have sat in countless traffic jams, and have never even noticed having a clutch as an inconvenience.
The automatic is a great addition as an option, but I like the old front bumper way better than the new one. The foglights and GR-Four on the intercooler looks sick.
did they actually get rid of the fog lights?
Yes, terrible idea. The new bumper looks terrible too.
@@jimsgaragetoysboth of those are true
they did that on the yaris facelift too
Yeah, for more engine cooling that was never needed
Lots of people would want an automatic, people with bad knees, who live in severe winter areas and need to focus more on driving/dodging bad drivers. People who drive in and out of cities. Honestly I have had both, I would look at the AT for driving enjoyment. It's also looking like the automatic may be faster from what my stealership has been telling me.
You forgot to mention it catches fire 🔥 going over 85 mph...Firey Fun!
2 cases is hardly an issue
Have had a 2024 since brand new. I would still get the 2025 in manual. Great anti theft device these days and this car is fun to drive.
You should photoshop the circuit edition wing onto the premium plus and see how it ties together with the new front bumper design. Or if you were to design a new wing what would it look like?
People keep crying about the wing, with the additional openings you cannot have such a big wing since it will create even more drag.
The previous model looks way better. That new front end is just hideous.
I love manual transmissions, and I love the rush of using the clutch with shifting. There are always going to be some advantages in how manual cars feel as opposed to an automatic.
However, I've always loved paddle shifters. Every time I feel those behind the steering wheel of a car, it produces a certain aura within the cabin. I feel invigorated and "giddy" as a kid eyeballing sweets in the candy store window. Even before starting a car with paddle shifters, the excitement for me begins. Ever since I was a child, I've always enjoyed the Formula 1 steering wheel design and layout, and that paddle-shift feature allows me the opportunity to capture some of that racing essence in my own driving experience.
Call me a dork for enjoying paddle shifters, but at least they offer me a chance to embrace the nostalgia of my childhood dream along with the "rush" factor of the feeling of near-professional levels of racing equipment.
All these people talking about how “I like the auto because I’m constantly in traffic all day”. If you’re constantly in traffic then how will enjoy driving a sports car in the first place?
I have a manual sportscar and an auto daily, but sold the daily for a better one, which I'm still deciding on getting, so I'm currently dailying my manual with aftermarket track parts.
It's not fun. It's lame to start-stop and aggressively jockey others for traffic position just trying to go to and from places and have to spam the clutch and shifter all day.
But, I have parts for more track time, and have meets/shows I like to go to occasionally. So, I can have fun in the car when the situation calls for it. All other times, in this carcentric world, auto for me. I would take the train everyday to work/stores/recreation if I had one near me to avoid driving at all.
@@SALEENS7GTR5 so your manual vs automatic argument is irrelevant by your own admission, because you said in the end of your paragraph that you’d prefer to not even drive an automatic either because that’s also an inconvenience to you.
@@TheModernPioneer no it isnt. because I'm still driving everyday.
@@SALEENS7GTR5 purely because you don’t have access to other means of transportation, by your own admission.
@@TheModernPioneer how does that invalidate my point, though? i could never take public transportation again and drive auto for the rest of my life, which im kinda forced to do now. Sure, the principle of driving does not exist of I dont drive. But I am. And I have to, every day. So I prefer to use an auto. You don't have the gotcha you think you do.
When are you reviewing the new a6 e-tron?
looks kinda "heavy" to me. The Avant looks better.
I may be in the demographic for people who would buy this with an automatic. It being a manual only has kept me from entertaining it as an option because I don’t know how to drive stick and honestly don’t care to, especially when my car is a commuter car and I’m in traffic, but I still appreciate a car being more sporty and a better driving experience, since I do love cars and enjoy driving.
I also think the GR looks much better than the standard Corolla hatch and looks are actually really important to me, I want to love looking at my car as I walk up to it, and this new one looks better than the previous.
Lol just get a regular Corrola then cause, you trying to be zippy in traffic as a daily commuter trying to rush to work is dumb.
@@vikingguy2434 that’s not what I said lol. Don’t put words in my mouth. I know what I don’t want, and that’s a regular Corolla. If a Corolla is even going to be on the map for me I’d like it to be sportier and better looking.
@@vikingguy2434Did you even read the comment you were in such a rush to respond to?
aggressive.....cool.....with strong personality.....this GT is the ultimate hothatch dream. GREAT DESIGN RVOLUTION OPERATED BY LITTLE IMPROVEMENTS. the final result is stunning. love it.
I am glad they have an automatic. Whoever has time to be hustling with shift sticks go ahead, my legs suffer a lot when I do 10 hours driving. Imagine if I had a manual transmission car ... Not in this life
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Unpopular opinion perhaps but I love the new front bumper. Looks a lot more aggressive than the previous which I found a bit too cute for my taste.
It's dope that they're releasing an automatic, I don't know how to drive a manual and this is awesome news. PS: all manufacturers should have both options for their high performance vehicles, some folks are disabled, others like me don't know how to drive a stick shift, others want comfort. We all live in harmony, cheers!
Wish it had ventilated seats; that’s why I went with Golf R
On the note of the loss of fog lights I would have to add some fogs or fog style rally lights. I wish they kept an option for a bigger spoiler. It looks like I may be adding one myself If i end up able to grab one of these.
I remember the days when cars had bumpers instead of comically big grills
Grills wich are mostly closed lol
The grill is big to let in more air and they now left so much space to easily install aftermarket parts vs the previous gen.
@@DenisDamulira23 I get it, it makes sense, but race cars don't need that much grill
Remember when cars had half the power and overheated like crazy on track?
@@MuppetsSh0w remember when power wasn't everything xd
Oh, and they still overhead like crazy, and the brakes go away after a couple braking zones
Have to see 1 on the road yet
Its not going to be a regular automatic transmission , it's going to he like a DCT transmission , I know that people tyinks only manual transmission is better but for someone that is going to use this car as a daily ride a transmission as the DCT is just perfect , dont forget that this transmission DCT shift faster tan manual also has paddles shifter and is really fun to drive
5:30 when I first saw the facelift this was the EXACT detail that turned me off to it. I’m warming up to it really quickly but the fact that there’s no body colour base there is tripping me out
I wonder if they will ever think about bringing the GR Corolla as a Touring Sport? It would definetly be a competitor to a Golf 8 R Wagon.
The only thing I really don't like design-wise is how they got rid of the fog lights. A rally car without fog lights just doesn't feel right. But I guess you can just install aftermarket ones for when you inevitably start modding this thing.
You Are Hitting 90K!!!!!!!!!!
Still gonna blow
Why serious about transmission? Buy what you like.. who cares what transmission ppl drive..
The auto is likely going to be far more available since it'll have better sales. This means dealers will likely put in less effort to obtain manuals.
Might buy a second one in at just to have it when I dont feel like shifting. Like daily
I definitely would never be able to justify a new car as expensive as this one will be after dealer markup if it wasnt an automatic capable of being daily driveable.
I was kinda expecting we'd see a newer generation of Corolla by 2025.
Does this MY'25 still come with spontaneous combustion engines?
Please ask these questions next time you are near a Toyota representative to see if we can have the answers:
No center console arm rest and or storage space yet? The excuse was that it was a manual transmission only car. What's the excuse this time? And when will they get rid of the dust and fingerprints collecting piano black interior parts? Did they already fixed the infotainment issues? What about the hidden tracking and information sending computer that sends information without your knowledge to Toyota, dealerships and insurance companies? When will the steering wheel can be telescoped and tilt further upwards and towards the driver? When will they use bigger brakes at the back? I find it abnormal and asymetrical that manufacturers pay too much attention to the front brakes when is always better to have a rear-bias braking balance for both hard cornering and extensive use. Is the trunk space enhanced? Why they don't give us the motor with at least 100 HP more and 105 more torque for a more rounded number of 400 and call it the 400 edition? (I call dibs if they really make this one)
Not crazy about the spoke design. It needs a wider screen.
It needs a screen delete...
The front-end looks like a wall that will create more drag. Best front-ends on a Corolla is the 9th Gens. I still love my 2007 S.
I wish we got it in Europe. Perfect daily.
Dont get me wrong it still looks pretty good, but i dont like the route manufacturers are going with going for more and more black plastic covering up the front and rear end
automatics sell more than manuals, it was either add the auto or the gr corolla gets axed
Not always the case. You can get the WRX in a auto but the manual makes up most of the sells
Also, Toyota removed the fog lights for the 2025 version 😔
I want a widebody GR corolla really badly, but at dang near 50k for a solid spec thats out of my budget.
Toyota reduced the ignition timing advance but added more boost on the new GR
i guess toyota got so many complaints about the supra having fake vents and went ham on the gr corolla where every vents are functional, remember the supra first release as an automatic and decided to give us the manual option at a later date i knew they were going to do it to the gr corolla vice versa
Did the fix the Awd overheating?
There's new LSDs so hopefully
They are working with HKS for an aftermarket solution
Make a video about the new A6 etron please
Why get rid of the fog lights and design a "Civic Type R" bumper? Nah, ill stick with my 2023 GRC Circuit Edition look.
Now lets see if they get rid of THE ENGINE FIRES
Like it or not, the auto will out sell the manual.
No it won't, Toyota has already said that automatics will be about 15-20% of production while manuals will be 80-85%.
@@jimsgaragetoysoh really? that'd weird because I heard only the premium plus will have manual, the lower 2 models are all automatic.
@@ArthaxtaDaVince777 You have is backwards, only the premium + will have the automatic option from what I saw.
Not always the case. You can get the new WRX in a auto and the manuals actually makes up most of the sales
@@irlredline7965 That's because people hate the Subaru CVTs
They should have kept the fog lights
gonna miss the fog lights though🥲
I'm not because I wouldn't ever trade my 2023 for a 25. I'm not a fan of that new front grill in any way.
It's a Corolla. It wouldn't be complete without an automatic option.
Now we will need a aftermarket fog light :/
Man I hope its affordable- hope it’s not over 50k 😂
we need this in europe
I believe the 2025 GR Yaris coming with an 8AT.
No 👎
Y'all get/got most of the cool cars... Let us get our turn...😅
Automatic is faster and more reliable. No more mistakes line gear grinds from miss shifting, stalling, and shifting from high gear to 1st destroying your engine.
I would definitely consider this car with an automatic. Traffic is so bad during the day in Houston area both in terms of traffic congestion and idiot, aggressive, road ragey drivers that using a manual would get tiresome very quickly.
If you don’t get tired of using your right foot to brake, why is it more tiring to use your left foot to clutch in?
@@TheModernPioneer why does it matter?
@@MuShinnen you should never answer a question with another question. It matters because the logic doesn’t make any sense.
@@TheModernPioneer You should never ask a question when you already have the answer yet you did. It makes perfect sense. You can enjoy a sports car when it isn't bogged in traffic even as an automatic. That's a logical conclusion.
The auto is faster and at the end of the day I'd rather have the faster car with a free hand for chicken nuggets. As someone who's raced a manual GR Corolla in my tuned Lexus it was really funny to hear them miss second and fade away behind me.
Basically they put the new front bumper from the GR Yaris to this car
Are you blind?
I don't like it but it is growing on me.
Yeah
It needs an automatic. The BG6 transmission in it and the dual mass flywheel was dogshit.
It didn’t get even better it just got fixed from its issues of poor manipulation engineering of an economy car into a race car!!
With a auto you can left foot much easier….stick your manuals!
It's idiotic to offer an automatic unless they 10x the production. Because they already can't keep up with the demand for manual. Now I have to compete against normal people to buy one?
Manuals are going away
Maybe having it not burn up?
I would , then i can have 1 of each and my wife can drive it
Corolla got the American Diet 😂
Trying to figure out how toyota got Morizo torque number on all 2025 Gr Corollas.
its just software. Easy-peasy
Simple engine tune
I will Buy if it’s automatic what’s wrong with you?
Under a minute
Too bad the engines are blowing up
Or excuse me, the front ends are catching on fire
why is it so expensive
Wonder if the 86 will get anything new
Only the Hakone edition, Toyota is planning to get rid of this generation 86 because they are tired of the boxer engine having issues and Subaru refused to let them turbocharge. Toyota is going to start over without Subarus help.
@@ethanmckibbin - "and Subaru refused to let them turbocharge." - which isn't exactly the case here, almost as if Toyota wished to retain the natural aspiration for the twins.
@@pmayo7894 no Toyota wanted both cars turbocharged because the power output is abysmal and Subaru said no. It's Subarus engine they get final say, I'm not sure what is so hard to understand about that.
@@ethanmckibbin - honestly, is it?
After all, Subaru initially didn't want to get involved with the twins even before the 1st-gen car came out. Toyota basically strongarmed them by buying shares of Fuji Heavy Industries (now Subaru Corporation).
@@pmayo7894 Let's see. Toyota bought up Subaru way before that. 2005 to be exact and 8.7%. Toyota didn't increase it until 2019 to 20. Try harder
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Hope the 25 is of better quality. I own a GRC 23. In less than 25k miles my 4 tires became uneven. The brakes don’t respond, at first pedal action, during pouring. And my front rotors are warped, with an estimated replacement cost of $2.7K dollars.
Too many issues for a new car.
BTW, is this car made in China?😂
And then it catches fire
wool socks to bed=dreams on par with when you were younger before your brain atrophied🟩⬛⬜
I'm sorry, this design is horrible. I'm trying to find a positive here but nothing...
Toyota just denied a wartenty, on the Corolla GR, for driving 85mph. It's probably okay under 80mph, but it's not designed to go past 85mph.
Oh yeah, better tell everyone in Europe also. Seems you are the expert here...
What happened at 85mph
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Looks worse
first
Ugh, they didn't get rid of that ridiculous exhaust. By far the ugliest feature of the GR Corolla.
Aftermarket.
@@ii_dynasty Yeah