The moment that won the 1997 World Series needs a deep rewind | Florida vs Cleveland
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- The 1997 World Series between Cleveland and Florida came down to do-or-die extra innings in a do-or-die Game 7. In the bottom of the 11th, the score was tied, the bases were loaded, and there were two outs. Clutch hitter Edgar Renteria was at the plate for the Marlins. A non-closer with something to prove, Charles Nagy, was on the mound for Cleveland. This is edge-of-your-seat stuff.
But maybe you want to just stand up, a seat’s edge is only so big because with the context of what and who and how we got to this moment, it becomes even more tense.
We’ve got hired guns going up against a pitcher 3 years out of high school. We’ve got a 4x Gold Glove winner embarrassing himself. We’ve got a Cuban defector breaking records. We’ve got baseball purists frothing over the idea that either of these teams could win - and obviously, one of them is about to.
So, see ya in hell, seat. It’s rewind time.
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"I have no idea how this story ends! I don't even know who the teams are!"
One of the teams is Cleveland.
"I know EXACTLY how this story ends!"
😭😭😭😭😭
Cleveland was an amazing city all around until you people came north.
You’re what made that city empty and become a loser with your sacking of neighborhoods others built and your feral violence.
Being black is how Cleveland feels now. Losers from former winnings after adding just one ingredient - blacks.
You’re not smarty enough to feel remorse for what you’re feral people do.
@@mikeozello I mean, it was Cleveland winning the NBA finals that put us on the darkest timeline, so no sympathy.
And then the Marlins went on to a long dynastic run of competent teams and stable front office staff.
Say what you will but they've never gone to the post season without taking at least one team down with them.
Well they did win another World Series accidentally... Watch the Collapse video they made
Huisenga and Loria: "allow us to introduce ourselves"
@Dee Santer only to get blown up again
every time success can be sustained for the Marlins, ownership runs it back into the ground.
"How the Marlins Accidentally Won a World Series in the Middle of Falling Apart"
My father came home late this evening. He was the reason 13 year-old me cared about the Indians. For whatever reason, he was NOT watching this game.
Walking in the door, the look on my face stopped him. “They lost.” My Dad passed a few years ago. The last game we ever watched together was the Tribe losing to Cubs is the WS. RIP Dad.
I remember FSO having a commercial that talked about parents waking their kids up to watch the team close out the series that night only to have it end in heartbreak.
I still get gutted thinking about Davis’ HR in game seven and the immediate thunderstorm that killed momentum. Sorry for your loss man, go guards.
I love how baseball can bring people together. My grandfather was a huge Yankees fan, and I grew up with the Blue Jays. When I was young and the Jays had their mini-dynasty, I loved to poke fun. Little did I know of what was to come with the Yankees in the coming years. A couple of years after he passed away (which gutted me), the Yankees happened to be in Toronto on what would have been his 75th birthday. I was at the game and his Yankees skunked my Jays, and I had to chuckle, thinking about how he would have teased me.
@@clevelandite153 that was touching. Thank you.
@@jluchette if I can be sober for over 2 years then I promise the Indians will win a World Series one day
@@jluchette Congrats on the division!
God seeing Edgar Renteria on the 97 Marlins just makes me glad the Giants had him for 2010. He had two of the finest World Series performances you can ask for.
the sight of him raising his arms as he gets to first base and yelling at the top of his lungs deserves a statue outside of Marlins' Park
Also something to note Renteria is the last batter faced in 2 WS: the walk off in 1997, and the last out in the 2004 WS
He also batted .333 in the 2004 Series with the Cardinals. What a great player, always one of my favorite defensive players
Still don't know how he ended up on the Tigers for a year
He was the man. Shoulda won in 04 with the birdnals too dang it!!!
Goosebumps everytime y'all say "welcome...to a moment in history."
I don't see how anyone can stand this Jewess' God awful nasally screeching voice
Especially on this one
RIP Tony Fernandez. One of the greatest Jays ever and helped to define an era for the team. There was a reason he was called “cabeza”.
Gone far too soon
I had no idea he had passed away. I was going to say that I may never forgive him for blowing that easy double play. But upon hearing this; May he rest in peace. 🙏🏾 Time to let that which is ultimately unimportant go.
@@maguffle There was no way he would've gotten the double play. Counsell was sprinting up the line and would've been safe after the throw to second. He only really had a play for one out. That said, had he gotten one out, they likely would've gotten themselves out of the inning after that. Either way, RIP Tony
Thanks for dropping it right when my class ended. I know you did it just for me
Same, just got out 😂😂😂😂
I sent the message for you guys. You're welcome. 🤣🤣
College?
@@Jaykerz yessir
The story of Omar Vizquel telling the Indians manager Mark Hargrove not to put in Jose Mesa is well known and caused beef between the two for years. The fact Vizqeul is regarded as one of the most beloved Indians ever makes it even more spicy to fans.
Joe Table looked shaky much of the season. Grover always gave pitchers too much rope to hang themselves with. Marlins had been sailing balls deep into the outfield for multiple innings off Jared Wright before Bonilla soloed. Hargrove left him out there all that time when Chuck Nagy was available. THAT was what lost the world series, that Bonilla solo shot.
Vizquel wrote in his book (Omar!) that Mesa's eyes were "vacant. Completely empty. Nobody home" on that night. Mesa swore that from then on, every time the two of them faced each other, he'd hit Vizquel in the head. And he did hit him several times. I'll never understand why Mesa wasn't suspended for long periods of time every time he did it. It was premeditated with intent to injure.
My step dad painted Visuels house in Westlake back in the day.
It is a good beef history.
Considering what Vizquel went on to do to that batboy, I think the fates should’ve let Jose drill Omar with some chin music
When Edgar hit the ball you could hear someone scream YES and you just knew it was game over
This still hurts 25 years later. I had a poster of Omar Vizquel, Kenny Lofton, and Albert Belle on my wall and a Jim Thome jersey as a kid.
To this day my dad hates Jose Mesa
my uncle managed the apartment building that Thome lived in as a young, underpaid player, and got me some autographed Thome rookie cards as a Christmas gift one year... still have 'em
As a Giants fan I am still so sad we choked so bad in the 02 world series and so Lofton couldnt get his ring.
The Indians in the 90's had a squad. Still don't see how they never won a ring. I thought them beating the Yankees and facing the Marlins in the WS was gonna be an easy ring for them.
And it wasn't yet known in 1997, but they actually "Broke into" the Yanks' Dynasty that year. Crazy how they didn't go back to the World Series until 2016.
As a young boy living in Colombia, this series was my first introduction to Major League Baseball and it became my favourite sport. This rewind was greatly appreciated by me as it brought back a lot of great memories. Thanks!
Rest in peace, Tony!! You gave many baseball fans tremendous joy from watching you play ball.
Love when Clara narrates. Her voice is so perfect for these.
Not, sounds like an 8 year old.
Not at all. Horrible sjw
@@VicRattleHead28 is she? Man I really try not to learn anyone on social media that I like's politics....lets just go with I enjoy her narration.
This is one of my favourite moments to watch because of those two quick shouts of "YES! YES!" just after Renteria makes contact. I always get goosebumps hearing that. I wonder who it was that you hear shouting that.
Leyland maybe?
@@yaboi912 leyland said he never saw the ball leave the bat
Just got goosebumps seeing this. Remember watching this game with my father and family in Miami, where I grew up. Back when baseball was exciting and captivating to watch, no matter how long a game took. The franchise may have been mismanaged to hell, but I will always have respect for what this team the 03 team did in winning WS titles. The Marlins, to quote the Miami Herald, “are a worthy prince..” for at least giving the city some titles before the Heat took over the scene.
Being a Marlins fan my entire life has been hell but being able to say i saw my team win a world series is a feeling i dont think i'll ever forget
I'm right there with you. I lived right down Ives Dairy Road a few miles from Joe Robbie stadium when the Marlins were born. Been a fan since the beginning.
The Marlins are a great example of the saying "Give me an A, or give me an F". lol
This was the beginning of significant WS moments involving Edgar Renteria. The second one was when he lined out to Keith Foulke to give the Red Sox their first World Series title in 86 years. The third was when he hit a 3 run homer in the 7th inning of game 5 in 2010 to ultimately clinch the Giants their first world series title in 56 years.
Grounded out to Foulke, but yes, what a moment (Sox fan here lol)
Renteria said after the fact that he flinched at the breaking ball on purpose to make Nagy think he could throw it again.
Wow!!! Didn't know that all these yrs
he told Gary Sheffield in the on-deck circle
"I'll take the first one, and if he throws it again, we're winning this."
You know us Cleveland fans were having too good of a week. Thanks guys 👍
I was happy for all of the TV people that got to dust off the Cleveland improbable loss compilation after the Browns lost to the Jets. It sure seems to make their day brighter.
On the plus side I've pretty much given up on baseball. Being a Cleveland fan has made me very tired.
Damn shame that Indians team didn't win a Series, what a legendary lineup
You're really kicking me in the balls with this one fellas. Our radio broadcaster Tom Hamilton just said last night during the game that he was in the Cleveland clubhouse when they wheeled out the trophy and champaign.
My heart breaks all over again seeing it happen, I don’t know if I’ll ever see the guardians come so close to winning the World Series again. Great video well written can’t wait to see more of your stuff.
I remember being a kid and my dad coming home with tickets to this game before the series even started. I was excited he got tickets but I thought it was highly doubtful we’d even go to a game 7. Man that was an awesome game.
RIP Tony Fernandez. Toronto loves you!
Your sports docs and mini-docs are insane, probably the best and most consistent on TH-cam
Ever since the Omar and Jose beef history, I was wondering when this rewinder would happen
This series actually meant a lot to 7 year old me. My fall coach pitch team was the Marlins and my sister's tee ball team was the Indians so naturally this became about us and whose team was better. Haven't cared about the Marlins since and didnt even know anyone on the roster. I just looked up the roster and still only recognize a handful of names.
Glad we could use this to set the table for when Cleveland goes all the way this year 😊
it would be mindblowing if they do it the first year they quit calling themselves the Indians
Go Guardians!!
@@thedude3065 They'll always be the Indians to me. If the name was so problematic, it should've been changed decades ago. Stupid snowflakes.
@@thedude3065 it would break my heart honestly lol . Tribe fan for life and it killed me when they changed the name.
If we ever win it, I might die on the spot. But at least I could die happy.
Jim Thome never getting his ring has gotta be one of the more overlooked championship snubs
I think after this World Series he only saw two playoff series wins the remainder of his career. 1998 ALDS and 2009 NLDS
I remember him on the Orioles in 2012 when they made that Cinderella run to the postseason.
Brought some great veteran leadership to that ball club!
One of the best to never get a ring, and god did he deserve one...
@@JWex-jy7sk I wish we could've got Jim a ring. Damn Yankees...
Would be a great Untitled.
@@AlbertQian Oh yeah for sure, that and one on the late Air McNair.
THE defining moment of my childhood. Thank you so much for this rewind.
This was the first bet I made as a kid and won against my Grade 6 classmates. Everyone thought Cleveland was a lock, but I knew the quality players on the Marlins team were former Expos from the 94 season.
as a late 90's Braves fan these years are heartbreaking but also heartwarming
“A liner, off Nagy’s glove, into center field. The Florida Marlins have won the world series.” is probably one of my favorite postseason calls in history, and I’m a Phillies fan
My brother and dad were both Cleveland fans, and I was a 7-year-old who loved teal. It was glorious.
@@RetepAdam must be nice I’m a Cleveland fan and honestly I don’t think you’ll know the pain as a Indians fan. Thank god for the Avalanche
I love the faint "YES!" as the ball leaves the infield :)
yup, and that was the last call for Bob Costas in the world series if i can recall....then we get Joe Buck for the rest of eternity...
Tony Fernandez will always be loved by Blue Jays fans. RIP
Renteria is an underrated HOF candidate.
Yeah. That dude was a bonafide winner! Literally one of the most clutch players of the last 30 years
Absolutely agree! He is like the Dennis Rodman of Baseball; put him on a team, they win stuff
Would love to see a rewinder on Matthias Steiner at some point - Weightlifting deserves more love
When are you guys going to finally do World Series 1991? One of the best series of all time with so many extra innings and walk offs
That was a fantastic series. Not just because of Jack Morris's gem either.
I’ve seen a fanmade Rewinder on this, and I know exactly what happened, so it’s nice to have an official version!
I was not familiar with this WS so all of it was new to me and what an incredibly edited video it is, loved every minute of it!
Those Marlins uniforms are a classic! They NEED to come back; however, I do like their current set too.
FINALLY A MLB REWINDER THANK YOU
This was the first sports memory I ever had as a child. Jim Thome quickly became my childhood hero. I was lucky enough to grow into my 20s watching Thome play.
I hope Clara Morris sticks around for a long time; she's a fantastic narrator and writer
I was a baseball obsessed 8 year old from south florida, when I saw watched this. I’ll never forget it. For YEARS I had home plate from Joe Robbie/Pro Player Stadium, signed by all the players from the 97’ team, framed in my childhood room.
Happy to see my Marlins getting some recognition every now and then.
Thank you for bringing back some great memories of my Marlins, '97 & '03 were magical.
Oh, do I wish they could be relevant again.
This is going to be a classic especially with Clara Morris on the commentary 💎
Thanks for this Video! One of my favorites moments of my childhood when I was in love with the Game..
I had gotten into baseball in 1995 and latched on to the 1995 Indians bandwagon. Their loss to the Braves that year was disappointing, but I remained a die-hard fan of theirs in 1997. I clipped the newspaper for every playoff win on their way to Game 7 of the World Series. Then when Jose Mesa blew the save in the ninth I knew they were done for. The Fernandez error and Renteria single were only a formality. It still hurts almost 25 years later.
I'm sorry for your loss.
my greatest memory as a kid was staying up late with my dad to watch this. as a kid from miami, it made me proud and the city proud.
As a Cleveland fan, no it does not require a rewind…
So you prefer the 2016 WS rewinder?
Renteria had a very interesting career. He won a world series in his second season, then won a second in his second to last season. In both deciding games he drove in the winning runs. He didn't do it in as dramatic of fashion the second time around as he did the first, but he did earn himself the MVP. I like nifty stats like that.
October 27, 1997. Greatest moment of my childhood. Even worth going to school the next day half asleep.
I truly think that if this had been any other franchise besides the Marlins, we'd still talk about the iconic walk off hit that won the series. Similar thing for the 01' series with Luis Gonzalez. The two franchises associated with this moment are just not that memorable and therefore these incredible moments are less heralded than others.
@@matthewdaley746 hell no diamondbacks were roided up that season and had a lesser record
@@matthewdaley746 Tbh I was initially going to disagree, but now I'm inclined to say you're right. The Yankees entered the bottom of the 9th trailing twice in that series and if not for two out game tying home runs they don't end up going to game 7. They needed a Derek Jeter line drive home run that's probably only a homer in Yankee Stadium to win game 4, as well. The Diamondbacks absolutely whalloped them in game's 1,2, and 6,
Maybe a rewind of game 7 of the 1991 world series? Please? It deserves it.
Crazy to me that a seven game series with five one run games, three extra inning games, a game seven walkoff, and one of the most iconic pitching performances of all time doesn't have a rewinder yet
@@icephoenix_sa exactly. I dont know why people dont think of this series when they think of the best WS ever. 2001, 2016, 2011, 1997, 1986, 2017 all ive heard people say before, but the person ive heard say 91 is the best is from my dad whos a Twins fan.
@@zackaryhaselius2226 I'm a Cubs fan living in MN and 91 was my favorite world series until 2016 of course.
I love that y’all show baseball mad love on this channel
Mm, the greatest moment in this franchise’s history
Thanks, Marlins fans could really use this right now
*sees title*
Me (an Indians fan): *repeatedly bangs head against the wall*
In my mind, images of war, and death, and horror, and this game.
Dam this was a painful childhood memory. I remember watching this game with my Aunt who was a huge Indians fan. Devastating losses in the World Series 😢
Can you guys do an episode of Collapse of the 90s Braves? As a Braves fan, it's saddening and frustrating that a great team only won one World Series ⚾.
Not 1 but 2
@@blakelip3 not in the 90's
they went there five times in the 90's and only one once
@@thedude3065 such a mediocre team for ALL the talent the Braves had
@@blakelip3 mediocre teams dont win and mediocre teams dont make the World Series(unless you're Saint Louis)
but to lose four of five is underachieving of a standard only the Buffalo Bills have topped
@@thedude3065 well I’m glad my Braves won something in this lifetime and not clinging to glory days like cowboys fans. I hate the Braves couldn’t beat NY in ‘99 WS
This was fantastic. Please do Russel Martins HR off of Johnny Cueto in the 2013 NL Wildcard and the Pirates journey to that moment.
“CUE-TO! CUE-TO! CUE-TO!”
One of the few bright spots in a history of darkness that is being a Marlins fan
I remember in Three Nights in August that LaRusa said Renteria intentionally leaned back from the curve ball so he could see it again.
In the vein of the Space Jam Rewinder, a deep dive into Jake Taylor’s game winning bunt to win Game 163 in the ‘89 AL East would be cool.
one of my favorite sports moments in my life.
Thank you for giving us marlins fans this after the six year anniversary of Jose
I seriously love these videos , please keep em coming
I grew up in the 90s but for whatever reason I didn't watch sports back then. I started getting into watching sports in the mid 2000s. I remember sports center after the Red Sox had swept the Cardinals in the 2004 World series they were showing highlights and the commentator / journalist/reporter whatever you call them on SportsCenter said that Edgar renteria went from hitting the last RBI in the 1997 World series to being the last out in the 2004 World series. It's so minor but it's just something I remember a lot maybe because that's when I was first getting into watching sports
Great one!! Love it!! Perhaps yall can do the 1991 World Series Game 7 rewind. Two worst to first teams, All home wins, Kirby Pucketts walk off, gr8 pitching duel in Game 7. All the ingredients for a gr8 rewind😁
I was born on Oct 24 1997. My whole moms side of my family is from Cleveland. I've felt cursed since this series. I went to Indians game 7 WS and was there to see the Cubs beat the tribe :(
That’s a rough road to walk buddy
As a Cleveland fan, I still wasn’t over this one when 2016 ended in game seven and extras.
My first major sports heartbreak (one of many being an Indian/ Guardian fan). Still hard to watch to this day!
Oh, thanks for helping me relive the first sports experience to make me cry. Not the last for Cleveland fans…
My grandpa was a bit of an anti horder anti technology hippie. Whenever the TV went out he would take weeks or months to replace it, he said they didn’t really need it and it was good to live without it. He also spent most of his childhood in Cleveland and was a lifelong fan of the browns and baseball team (I’m still calling them the spiders, guardians is boring) and when the tv broke 2 hours before the start of the 1997 World Series he made sure they had a new tv before the first pitch
GREAT PIECE THANK YOU FOR POSTING.
Ready for 5 years from now when there's a rewinder about Jorge Soler's homer in Game 6 in Houston.
This series has two teams of legends. Hernandez, Lofton, Grissom, Tome, Renteria, Alou, Rameriz, Counsel, Vizquel, Nenn, Bonilla, Sheffield, and more
I was 7 and absolutely obsessed with the indians. the whole city was. we had our football team taken and it was a very emotional time for the place in the 90s.
Cleveland we still have unfinished business. cheers to us getting a ring one day
I miss that damn logo
I was so happy for Darren Daulton and Jim Eisenreich! They both deserved that World Series!
NBC was not too thrilled about this series. Don Ohlmeyer publicly wished the World Series to end in a four-game sweep so that it wouldn't derail NBC's fall entertainment schedule.
Ah… Must See TV… you had to be there…
Because the series went the distance, this also impacted the NFL schedule. CHI at MIA had to be moved to Monday. So most of the US saw GB at NE Super Bowl rematch while those in Miami and Chicago saw the Bears notch a surprise win over the Dolphins in overtime
Renteria in 1997: *Series-winning hit for Marlins!*
Renteria in 2004: *Final out of World Series, Red Sox win first World Series Title since 1918.*
I want to throw everything out the window watching this still 20+ years later
Sheer pain and agony still to this day. I was 11 the year Cleveland lost this series and it still hurts.
The Marlins old colors are underrated
black and teal suited them well
what they got now is similar, but just not as good.
plus they never use their best jeresy outside of spring
I was there… Section 440, Row 23, Seat 3. A $30 ticket, but how many people can say that they saw their team win the World Series in extra innings of Game 7? Yes, the Marlins became a laughing stock, but not that night… that night, they were the best baseball team in the world!
And yes, I have my ticket framed, along with the front page of the Miami Herald from the following day, which I was still awake to see delivered.
Huh, never realized that about the Tony Fernandez misplay in the 11th. It's kinda like the Alex Gonzalez error moments prior to the "Bartman Ball" -- or when Jose Lind misplays the ball in the 1992 NLCS moments before Sid Bream's slide. Nobody ever remembers the error that precedes the walk-off.
Edgar Renteria is such an underrated player I feel like.
This is my first baseball memory. I remember being super annoyed that the game pre-empted my favorite afternoon cartoons.
These videos are amazing.
That’s man. I actually cried during this game 😑🫣🥲
The world still cannot figure out how the 1997 Marlins won the World Series. Everything went their way. That's why once you are in, anything can happen.
Saw this whole Marlins season as a 13 year old kid. What a helluva way to see your season end with a shot right up the middle by Edgar Renteria. It was his moment, and mine too because I'll never forget it.
been waiting for this vid
What a time to be alive! Can't wait for October Ball.
Please make a rewinder of Marlin Jackson's interception in the 2006 AFC Championship!!
He’s from my small hometown. He’s as down to earth and generous as they come. Greet guy.
We don't need to relive this moment. We can forget it ever existed.
Hard to imagine today, but that Marlins' payroll of $89 million was eye-popping and very controversial.
That’s the best subscribe statement I’ve heard on TH-cam. Don’t have to type as much stuff. I’ll subscribe just for that
That 95 World Series got me watching baseball for real. I was a fan of Major League so I really wanted to see the Indians win. Then, The Cubs stole my heart and have broken it 25 times ever since. Also, F the Marlins lol
Thanks for the content ❤