MLBN Presents: Game 7 of the '97 World Series

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  • The 1997 Indians took a lead late into game seven of the World Series before the Marlins came back and took it to extra innings.
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  • @AlexForzano
    @AlexForzano 7 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    Great piece... one of the most dramatic WS endings ever

    • @spinner9057
      @spinner9057 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The funny thing is six years after winning a World Series ring with the Marlins, Moises Alou was at the center of the whole Steve Bartman thing in the playoffs against the Marlins.

    • @AlexForzano
      @AlexForzano 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      spinner90 Yup, crazy how the tables can turn in one’s career, being on the bad end of a controversy

  • @Creepingdeathx81
    @Creepingdeathx81 5 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    As a die hard Braves fan this breaks my heart for the Indians. They have come closer than my Braves have in winning more than 1 title and couldn’t pull it off. I feel for them. I rooted for them in 97 and 16

    • @T0NY_S0PRAN0_86
      @T0NY_S0PRAN0_86 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yea lol and I bet you weren't routing for us in 95 tho 😆

    • @HighlightWorkshop
      @HighlightWorkshop 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      lol

    • @Creepingdeathx81
      @Creepingdeathx81 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@T0NY_S0PRAN0_86 of course not ! 😂

    • @Trump4prisonxxx
      @Trump4prisonxxx 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      you still haven't wont shit since 1995!

    • @Creepingdeathx81
      @Creepingdeathx81 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Trump4prisonxxx 2021?

  • @thejoeyd9207
    @thejoeyd9207 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This is some serious baseball drama right here. Doesn't get any more emotional and drama filled than this piece.

    • @courtgizzle
      @courtgizzle 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not emotional like game 6 of the 1986 World Series

    • @thejoeyd9207
      @thejoeyd9207 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Courtney Gibson Jr they’re definitely along the same lines

  • @spinner9057
    @spinner9057 6 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Love the variety of points and analogies in this segment. Keeps you tuned in outside of the sport itself.

  • @mkdzr72
    @mkdzr72 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Thanks for the good memories Tony. I never blamed you for that game. You were a huge part of our team. Without you, we wouldn't have even made it that far. Rest in peace. You are missed here in Cleveland.

  • @mkdzr72
    @mkdzr72 6 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    Still blame Mesa. And everyone on that team should as well. Mesa partied non stop that year. He didn't care. And when a manager like Grover tells you to do something, you listen. That's why guys like Vizquel hates Mesa. Who could blame him. I'll never forget that game either. Those guys deserved to win. I miss watching everyone of them.

    • @NZ92673
      @NZ92673 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Mesa should have thrown the 1-2 pitch on Johnson inside and (if Johnson stays alive) then maybe the next pitch throw a slider away. Johnson was too comfortable in that at bat and made Mesa pay. But hey, Mesa knows it all as we see in this video.

    • @mkdzr72
      @mkdzr72 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@NZ92673 agreed. I can't say here what I think of Mesa. I can't even begin to think how his team mates didn't literally kill him.

    • @NZ92673
      @NZ92673 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@mkdzr72 Looking back on that year, Mesa was NOT the invincible pitcher he was a couple years before. He was shaky in the series before against the Orioles. The big problem I had with Mesa in that last inning was him abandoning his high heat in favor of off speed pitches. When you're a closer, you throw heat. And as Tim McCarver said before in reference to Mark Whollers, "You never get beat with your second best pitch." Which is exactly what happened when he gave up the homer to Jim Lerytz the year before. With two strikes and behind in the count, the hitter is in protect mode anyway so why not bust him inside? Nothing frustrates me more than players that don't want to listen to important advice.

    • @effend446
      @effend446 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@NZ92673 Which explains why Mariano Rivera became the greatest closer of all time starting in 1998 because he threw nothing but heat.

    • @THERSC216
      @THERSC216 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He is hated in NE Ohio just like Art Modell

  • @filemonruiz7363
    @filemonruiz7363 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    The most incredible game I've ever seen in person. Now looking at it from Cleveland's point of view.

    • @Imac7065
      @Imac7065 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I was at the Pudge play at the plate game in 2003... but I'm incredibly jealous of anyone that got to witness that.. I have the Miami Herald front page from the next day hanging over my desk as I write this.

    • @filemonruiz7363
      @filemonruiz7363 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Imac7065 I was there too! October 4, 2003

  • @KWCline91
    @KWCline91 6 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    What’s not mentioned here is that it was Mike Hargrove’s birthday that night and he could’ve won a Game 7 for his best gift. It didn’t happen and when the Marlins won, it was the day after.

  • @russellpavlov1343
    @russellpavlov1343 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    As the 1997 World Series was going on, I was in my junior year at Struthers High School in Struthers, Ohio. I remember that Game 7 vividly, the Cleveland Indians had a 2-0 lead thru 6 1/2 innings, and they even had a 2-1 lead going into the bottom half of 9th Inning. It is painful to think back to 1997 compare it to 2016.

    • @legocat0306
      @legocat0306 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nice to see your from Struthers! Graduated in 2017. This hurts really bad but i never experienced it live since i wan't born yet, however the 2016 World Series always gets me up set. We were so damn close man..

  • @jackson5116
    @jackson5116 7 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Only to have Game 7 at home of the 2016 World Series lost to the Cubs! That may not be as hard, Cleveland didn't ever lead that game, they were the Marlins who scrapped to tie, and looked like it'd be vindication for 1997, only for Mother Nature to chime in, and the Cubs regroup to take it- not before the Indians made it close! The 2016 World Series may have been yet another Indians defeat, but they were the underdog the entire series, just the fact it went 7 speaks volumes to how good that club was!

    • @wheelspj7182
      @wheelspj7182 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Jack Son If they were so good they should have closed it out being up 3-1. The Tribe weren't chumps that year, they won like 95 games. Hardly a Cinderella story.

    • @MichaelSchiciano
      @MichaelSchiciano 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      _"Hardly a Cinderella story."_
      The Indians were not favorites in pretty much any of the postseason series they were in for the 2016 postseason, except for probably parts of the Blue Jays series. They were expected to get swept by the Red Sox, and no matter what happened in the World Series, the story was going to be about the Cubs, never the Indians.
      They were absolutely the underdogs in that situation.

    • @pomerlain8924
      @pomerlain8924 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The Tribe's record in series clinching games since Game 7 of the 97 WS is ghastly. 3-16 in series-clinching games, including 2 blown 3-1 series leads and two blown 2-0 series leads.

    • @AW-dq2oo
      @AW-dq2oo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Gemini The Great They were down to two and a half starting pitchers. Your point is invalid

    • @dougg2012
      @dougg2012 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They were super close though. They lead 1-0 into the 5th inning of Game 5 at Wrigley up 3-1. 1 or 2 more innings from Bauer, at least 3 more outs, and Miller comes in in relief, and he’s dominated the Cubs. Then Allen in the 9th, and the game is over. But, Bauer gives up the game tier to Bryant, Cubs come up with 2 more runs and lead 3-1. Then, Lindor at 3rd in the 8th with 2 out and the game is 3-2. Ramirez is at the dish, and on a 3-2 count he’s caught looking. If he ties the game, it most likely heads to extras. But it didn’t. The Cubs win 3-2, the Indians let them back in the Series and put the pressure on themselves heading home. They then unravel from there, pull off one last miracle in Game 7, but it isn’t enough. They had many opportunities in Game 5 to get back in it and take control, but the Bryant homer was the fulcrum of that Series.

  • @thejoeyd9207
    @thejoeyd9207 7 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Still hurts to this day. I'm 31 now, and it still hurts!

    • @mkdzr72
      @mkdzr72 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Me too. And I'm 46. Can't wait, our year is near. Go Tribe!

    • @DrPlatypus1
      @DrPlatypus1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What’s worse for you- 1997 or 2016? I can’t decide.

    • @thejoeyd9207
      @thejoeyd9207 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      DrPlatypus1 Good question. I've thought a lot about that. Hard to say. In '16 we were closer games wise, but in '97 it was RIGHT there. 4 strikes!

    • @T0NY_S0PRAN0_86
      @T0NY_S0PRAN0_86 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I was a young fan in 97 being only 11 years old but the loss was disappointing.. but 2016 crushed my Damm heart in pieces mannnnnn 😞😖

    • @futuregohan4837
      @futuregohan4837 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@DrPlatypus1 2016 Is Arguably Worse For Indians Fans Everywhere They Choked I Was An Cubs Fan At The Time

  • @JohnReedy07163
    @JohnReedy07163 5 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    I'm so glad I watched this. Now I know it's entirely Mesa's fault. Throw what your told by the catcher and your coach.

    • @filemonruiz7363
      @filemonruiz7363 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Give CJ a little bit of credit

    • @filemonruiz7363
      @filemonruiz7363 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @MANCHESTER UNITED Baseball is the best sport to me which is all that matters.

    • @THERSC216
      @THERSC216 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Cleveland (my hometoen) to this day hates Jose Mesa, he blew the save.

    • @mkdzr72
      @mkdzr72 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@THERSC216 yep. I'm a Clevelander and I still hate Mesa. That's why Vizquel and Mesa hate each other. Doesn't help that Mesa was out partying the night before.

    • @sethtate2079
      @sethtate2079 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @MANCHESTER UNITED F.C no body cares about what you think you Manc Wanc.

  • @justingoldman3026
    @justingoldman3026 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm not an Indians fan, but I was rooting for them in this series....this piece is done so well. I'm always marveled by how some pro athletes can recount certain situations, play by play. It's amazing how Charles Nagy remembers every last detail of the inning he pitched in game 7, despite this being over 30 years ago. I remember hating this for Indians fans at the time. Such a bummer.

  • @nickolson2426
    @nickolson2426 7 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    huge Indians fan remember that team watched that live I was heartbroken almost as bad as this last world series not sure which was worse

    • @americangiant1003
      @americangiant1003 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I am not a Tribe fan. However IMO losing in '16 to the Cubs when 25% of your starters were not on the world series lineup in game 7 when almost the entire planet was against rooting your team is nothing to be ashamed about.
      Hate to say it but the '97 Cleveland club should have won it. They were IMO slightly better (but not much) over the Marlins. In baseball the best teams in the playoffs don't always win.

    • @nickolson2426
      @nickolson2426 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      AmericanGiant100 I'd agree with you on last year Brantley, Salazar, and carasco out and it took everything the cubs had to win.

    • @jackson5116
      @jackson5116 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      that's also because of the manager. Francona may have let Boston get out of control after winning it twice (I'm sure egos got massive), so they collapsed. He's still a damn good manager, and got them to a game 7 before losing it. Remember though, it's not who was rooting for/against them, the Cubs won 103 regular season games in 2016, more than any team that year, they literally went into the playoffs as the best team, and it showed when it came down to the 7th and final game that they were the team to beat, and Cleveland damn near did it, because Francona knows how to manage in the playoffs, pulling the right strings to get the right guys in the right situations.

    • @KWCline91
      @KWCline91 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think 97 was worse for you because even though you were up 3-1 on the Cubs, the Cubs were the better team overall and they showed it. 97 was supposed to be your year and it didn’t go your way. Also, you rallied from 5-1 down to tie the game in the 8th in 2016.

    • @KWCline91
      @KWCline91 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      VideoGameLover58 but in Cleveland’s defense, they used up a lot in their 22-game winning streak that they couldn’t keep up the momentum. The Yankees were also coming in hot, which also was a factor.

  • @courtgizzle
    @courtgizzle 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    honestly as a yankee fan, I will love to see Cleveland win a World Series. Just once in my lifetime. If they finish it at the jake, it will be exciting. It will be like a party with fireworks and exciting music on the speaker.

    • @THERSC216
      @THERSC216 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You thought the Cavs winning in 2016 was exciting, wait till Cleveland wins a Super Bowl or World Series.

    • @schorman
      @schorman 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You are appreciated, Courtney.

  • @doesnotexist305
    @doesnotexist305 6 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I'm a Marlins fan and obviously happy that the Fish won the Series that year but the Indians deserve one and they definitely deserved it more. They spent all that time putting that team together and fought their asses off to get a title year after year while the Marlins just kinda stumbled into a championship and just traded everyone away like they didn't want to win anymore. TWICE it has happened down here by the way. I hope the Indians get one in the future. I was rooting for the Cubs for a long time to get one (obviously not in 2003 though lol) and rooted for them in 2016 but now it's the Indians turn to break their drought.

    • @mkdzr72
      @mkdzr72 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Man, GREATLY appreciated!

    • @GreatMewtwo
      @GreatMewtwo 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      It wasn't until years later that I found out about the fire sale the Marlins organization was involved with, and to be fair, these were the Indians who knocked off the Yankees for the pennant.

    • @futuregohan4837
      @futuregohan4837 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GreatMewtwo Plus The Indians Never Had Gone Through That Themselves

  • @favrerules04
    @favrerules04 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I know this broke my heart, can't imagine how them guys felt. Devastating

  • @toddhill6478
    @toddhill6478 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm a die-hard Indians Fan that lives in Detroit and meanwhile the rest of my family lived in Miami. I actually had vacation that week and flew to Miami to visit my family, needless to say I was down there for game 7 and watched it with my family and all their friends at watch party. Needless to say that was rough to watch the Marlins come back and win in extra innings and have my heart broken and the kicker was watching everyone go crazy and celebrating and having like 3 more days there before I went home! Oh and ya my heart was broken again in 2016!

    • @Imac7065
      @Imac7065 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That was a great team, that was an all-time series.. but that Marlins team.. looking back on it.. it was special. Makes my blood boil knowing how great the players on that team would be over the next 5 years. I would do anything to undo that firesale man

  • @TheFloridaSam
    @TheFloridaSam 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was 10 rows behind home plate for games 6 and 7. I will never forget game 7. The most amazing game I've ever seen, and to be there.....every game I've watched or been to since pales in comparison. The atmosphere was unlike anything I've ever experienced.

    • @Imac7065
      @Imac7065 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      this is exactly how I feel about the 2003 NLDS pudge play at the plate game.. I'll never see or feel that moment again

  • @NZ92673
    @NZ92673 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Al Leiter deciding to throw his curve ball more in that game 7 may have been the most pivotal reason Florida was able to win. If Leiter goes mainly, fastball/cutter, the Marlins don't win. IMO. A lot of times, little adjustments add up to big results.

    • @sethtate2079
      @sethtate2079 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      That and wayne hyzinga (I know I spelled his name wrong) renting a team of Allstars of one year.

    • @harryhighland591
      @harryhighland591 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Al Leiter was always tough on the Indians going back to his days in the American League. He pitched the first shutout by an opposing pitcher in 1995 when he was with Toronto- I was there. Those teams crushed right-handed power pitchers but always had problems with crafty lefties like Leiter and Jamie Moyer.

  • @santiagoandujar2518
    @santiagoandujar2518 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Many felt that it was a Series people wouldn't be interested in watching in 1997. That game 7 was, at that time, one of, if not the highest viewing rating of a Series Game 7. I was on the edge of my seat the entire game. A great and classic game to watch. I felt for the Indians fans, but more so for Tony Fernandez.

  • @AnthonyMGutierrez
    @AnthonyMGutierrez 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One of the pinnacle moments of my childhood, watching my team win the W.S. everyone at school sporting Marlins gear, everyone seeing if we could name all the players on the roster,, thinking of all the games I went to with my Dad when Hard Rock Stadium was known as Pro Player. Just incredible. I hope every child has the opportunity to see their team from their city win a Series, or a Championship in any sport.

    • @courtgizzle
      @courtgizzle 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I was so glad the marlins beat Cleveland after that team beat my Yankees in the division series.

  • @nicksantaniello9547
    @nicksantaniello9547 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This and the 87 afc championship game are the most devastating losses in Cleveland sports history

  • @tippfff
    @tippfff 7 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    If you ignor the coach signs you better do it right....Jose Mesa fucked up...

    • @americangiant1003
      @americangiant1003 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      True. If Cleveland had a slightly better closer than Mesa, they probably beat the Marlins in 6 games. Mesa was the main reason the Tribe lost the '97 series.

    • @Sephiroth766
      @Sephiroth766 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      cometandcupids while true he wasn't pitching well, he was a starter so you needed someone to go long.

    • @stonerbellinger8679
      @stonerbellinger8679 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      cometandcupids they intentionally walked the bases loaded because they would have a force at any base. The winning run is on 3rd either way so it doesn't matter.

    • @NZ92673
      @NZ92673 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mesa did what Tim McCarver criticized Mark Whollers the year before, getting beat with his second best pitch. You're a closer needing quick outs, you go with the heat until they prove they can hit it.

    • @potatopotato5762
      @potatopotato5762 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree Mesa sounds like a stubborn idiot who helped cost his team

  • @JoseTwitterFan
    @JoseTwitterFan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Cleveland Indians and World Series heartbreak: NAME A MORE ICONIC DUO.

  • @felixramos8732
    @felixramos8732 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Maannn why does this still hurt

    • @billyadams1137
      @billyadams1137 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Its the curse of luveing in ohio

    • @paulschab8152
      @paulschab8152 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      95,97, and 2016 still linger in my mind!

  • @spinner9057
    @spinner9057 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Legend has it Craig Counsell is still in the air. The sad thing is Mesa's blown save completely overshadows how well Jaret Wright pitched. Probably one of the greatest mound performances in a World Series Game seven loss (or elimination game for that matter).

    • @courtgizzle
      @courtgizzle 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Exactly how I feel for the Yankees in the 2001 World Series. Joe Torre made a big mistake to pull out Clemens. He even told Joe he can finish it.

  • @shermanngjazz
    @shermanngjazz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Although I do think Vizquel's comments about Mesa escalated the situation I can't really blame him, Mesa is a power pitcher so he should've trusted his fastball inside. Not many closers' best pitch are their offspeed, Sergio Romo is an exception.

  • @effend446
    @effend446 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Heartbreaking? No question. But if I recall, it was amazing that the 97 Indians were even in the fall classic to begin with - They played in a weak AL Central division that year, for one thing. And their pitching (especially the bullpen) had been suspect at times as well - and it showed because they were a tired bunch going into game 7.

    • @courtgizzle
      @courtgizzle 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      They were so lucky they passed the defending world champions(Yankees)

  • @unappealingundesirable2826
    @unappealingundesirable2826 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    3:45 Why do they put subtitles when Jose Mesa talks? He's not Jabba The Hutt, for goodness sakes.

  • @josephhecht6331
    @josephhecht6331 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Absolute knife through the heart💔

  • @VILJL
    @VILJL 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    For all four home games at Pro Player Stadium in Miami Gardens, for this World Series the attendance was over 67,000 . For Game One it was 67,245. For Game Two it was 67,025 with many fans seating in sections where they could not see the entire playing field. Game 6's attendance of 67,498 was the highest single-game attendance for the World Series since Game 5 of the 1959 World Series, when 92,706 people filled the football-oriented Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum. Game 7's was on Sunday October 26 The attendance was 67,204.

  • @oscarg2692
    @oscarg2692 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    didn't really need subtitles for Jose. He speaks perfectly clear.

    • @spinner9057
      @spinner9057 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      No they didn't. At least they didn't provide them for Sandy Alomar.

    • @mkdzr72
      @mkdzr72 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes perfectly clear.......I'm not gonna pitch what my manager tells me too. Oh, I lost the game, who cares.

  • @fernandomonserrat1029
    @fernandomonserrat1029 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    As a Yankee fan my question is simple and direct ? How would they have been a dynasty ? We ran off 3 in a row and 4 straight appearances after ‘97 🤷🏽‍♂️ just a simple question

    • @thejoeyd9207
      @thejoeyd9207 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      We were serious contenders from ‘94-‘01 but always came up short. Please see the definition of the word “almost”, as in the title of the documentary.

  • @brandonmiller9406
    @brandonmiller9406 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Was watching this live. Awesome game. Man those Indian teams were amazing. 1 of the top 3 line-ups of all-time.

  • @stevezinger5010
    @stevezinger5010 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What happened to the full feature version? Bring it back!

    • @Sweetish_Jeff_
      @Sweetish_Jeff_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think they cut it to save time. It's a shame because I enjoyed the full feature version, too.

  • @Sherpaful
    @Sherpaful 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was my favorite Indians team. After losing Belle and Lofton in the previous off season, no one ever thought they'd get this far, and to come this close only to lose was the worst sports moment of my life.

    • @courtgizzle
      @courtgizzle 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      1202 Program Alarm thanks to sandy alomar hitting that tying solo shot off of Mariano Rivera. Still pissed me off as a die hard yankee fan.

    • @Imac7065
      @Imac7065 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That mid 90's indians team was so stacked in hindsight crazy

  • @CGWincek
    @CGWincek 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I was 10 years old when this happened. I grew up during a brief special time, when Cleveland was a baseballThe only remedy to reliving that sinking feeling is to go watch the video of the last couple minutes of game seven of the NBA finals when the Cavs won. town instead of a football town. This was devastating. It’s 2024 and still hard to watch. The only remedy to reliving that sinking feeling is to go watch the video of the last couple minutes of the game seven of the NBA finals when the Cavs won.

  • @clevelandstormaaron
    @clevelandstormaaron 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    If I was Jose I would’ve Intentionally walked Greg Counsel and got the the double play that would’ve ended it but I want see the tribe win the World Series so bad i was heart broken in 2016 that was the first time seeing the Indians in the World Series I hope we win it all

    • @KWCline91
      @KWCline91 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you’re talking about the 9th, you’re loading the bases there, which a single there wins the game.

    • @mkdzr72
      @mkdzr72 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      We will win it all, hopefully soon. If we don't stop trading players away!! Come on Tribe, quit letting our good players go!

  • @rewing84
    @rewing84 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    why isnt fernandez's bobble discussed more hes a goat also

    • @spinner9057
      @spinner9057 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I guess because he was responsible for Cleveland's two runs in that same game

    • @spinner9057
      @spinner9057 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      And the game was tied at that point anyway. That specific play didn't cost them the lead.

    • @mkdzr72
      @mkdzr72 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Seems like Mesa wants to blame him, instead of himself.

    • @thejoeyd9207
      @thejoeyd9207 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Should've never gotten to that point. You gotta close that game if you're Mesa.

    • @mkdzr72
      @mkdzr72 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thejoeyd9207 agreed. Even though Mesa was a DA.

  • @kbadge7134
    @kbadge7134 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is just like the 92 nlcs game 7

    • @effend446
      @effend446 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes and no - at least the Indians were able to keep their core together for another shot at the title the next year (and beyond).
      Pittsburgh had so much riding on winning it all in 92 because the Pirates knew they were going to get cleaned out by free agency.
      How ironic, though, that Jim Leyland and Bobby Bonilla would reunite and finally win a World Series together?

    • @patrickgray5633
      @patrickgray5633 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@effend446 yes Leyland & Bobby Bonilla great they won & even better Barry Bonds didn't win jack.

  • @Jimmy_Hopkins15
    @Jimmy_Hopkins15 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Indians lost in 97 because the game was too close 2-1 in the 9th inning? You gotta score more runs and that lineup was deadly too

    • @courtgizzle
      @courtgizzle 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Most of the wins in the 1997 postseason by Cleveland were close. I’m still devastated how the Yankees didn’t handle Cleveland.

  • @liamreilley7986
    @liamreilley7986 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This just hurts and I wasn’t even alive yet

  • @phillipfrank9241
    @phillipfrank9241 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Who's got the full show of this?

  • @onehandclapping3094
    @onehandclapping3094 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is the exact reason I’m not in favor of bringing in a closer when the starter is doing fine. Dusty baker is infamous for this.

    • @courtgizzle
      @courtgizzle 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same way how I feel in the 2001 World Series in game 7. The rocket was pitching tremendous.

  • @jameslisle7775
    @jameslisle7775 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That was the Indians’ year, but life isn’t fair.

    • @courtgizzle
      @courtgizzle 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      1997 suppose to be the Yankees year. Going to the postseason as defending champions. That home run by sandy alomar was unexpected off of big mo.

  • @JasonCuzzen
    @JasonCuzzen 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Please Find Rest Of The Video

  • @80srocknroller
    @80srocknroller 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Both the Indians and the Braves competed to be The Team Of The 1990's and both teams blew it even though the Braves won only one World Series! But who took the cake for granted?

    • @jackson5116
      @jackson5116 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Three years, and they have the entire decade? You need to learn to do math! The Braves made the playoffs in 1991, 1992, 1993, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, compared to the Yankees 1996, 1998, 1999!

    • @80srocknroller
      @80srocknroller 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Jack Son Yes but the Yankees after Don Mattingly's retirement became a great team by winning 3 World Series in 1996, 1998 and 1999 and the Braves record speaked for themselves 1-4 in World Series between 1991 and 1999! Sorry Atlanta but New York is the Team Of The 1990's!

    • @Sherpaful
      @Sherpaful 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Even the Blue Jays won more World Series in the 90's than the Braves. The Braves are NOT the team of the 90's.

    • @joesakic91
      @joesakic91 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Jack Son But the Yankees winning three WS in 1996, 1998 and 1999 trumps the Braves one WS title.

    • @pomerlain8924
      @pomerlain8924 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      You do know the Yankees made the playoffs from 5 straight years from 1995-99, winning the WS in 96, 98, 99. That is team of the 90s. They did more than the Braves in just half the time. And when you look at the decade, the Yanks have 3 WS, the Jays have 2 WS, and the Braves just have the 1. You're not the team of the 90s if two teams have won more WS than you. The only thing the Braves did better was constantly win their division.
      It's like saying the Colts were the best NFL team of the 2000s because they won the most regular season games. But then you have the Patriots with 3 SBs, the Steelers with 2 SBs, and the Colts with 1 SB.

  • @jeremyfoster-ut7rh
    @jeremyfoster-ut7rh ปีที่แล้ว

    The tony Fernandez error does not get talked about enough..mesa blew the save but still pitched well and got out of the inning

  • @MLWBwiffleball-ye1de
    @MLWBwiffleball-ye1de 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I know it sucks being so close for a championship, trust me, I’m a Texas Rangers fan (2011)
    (I wasn’t watching the Rangers in 2011, but I started watching them in 2018)

  • @johnnygunzfilmbuff7821
    @johnnygunzfilmbuff7821 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am a Yankee fan and I'll admit it's sad to see how the Indians were two outs away from a World Series championship. The Marlins rewrote that script.

  • @courtgizzle
    @courtgizzle 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    MLB Network should document about game 7 of the 2001 World Series. Yankees were so close. I wanted them to get that 4peat

    • @thejoeyd9207
      @thejoeyd9207 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Not nearly as much on the line for the Yankees in ‘01 vs the Indians in ‘97. The Yankees had won 4/5 going into 2001. The Indians hadn’t won since 1948 going into 1997. Scarcity creates value! They still haven’t won since 1948.

  • @jackdull5699
    @jackdull5699 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It should be called The Dynasty that could have been if Mesa hadn't screwed it up!

  • @justinnardine8564
    @justinnardine8564 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Was this the game Eric Greg was behind home plate?

  • @kp3_442
    @kp3_442 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    What kills me even more now is hearing Mesa sound like he doesn’t care. Like he’s almost blaming Hargrove for defying the pitch call. Most Clevelanders forgave Byner, but that will never happen for Mesa.

  • @courtgizzle
    @courtgizzle 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    7:39 Red Sox future friend

  • @Imac7065
    @Imac7065 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I feel bad for that Indians team... but I'm sorry that Marlins team deserved that title. Jim Leyland, Bobby Bonilla, Gary Sheffield, Kevin Brown, Al Leiter, Charles Johnson, Darren Daulton, Jim Eisenrich..... these guys earned that ring with their blood sweat and tears. I wish more people would realize how great that series was though.. one of the top 5 best ever IMO

    • @americandissident9062
      @americandissident9062 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You forget Jeff Conine, the heart of the team in the first few years before they put those other guys together.

    • @Imac7065
      @Imac7065 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@americandissident9062 Him, Sheffield, and a few others were the heart of the team

  • @Imac7065
    @Imac7065 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why was this entire thing in the Indians POV? They lost?

  • @TylerSimmonsW
    @TylerSimmonsW 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    In my mind, the Indians were the real 1997 MLB champions, regardless of whether or not they got that World Series win. Say what you want, but Cleveland during the 90s had one of the most memorable and entertaining teams in baseball history. To have that World Series win taken away like that from the Marlins (A team full of quick trades and last minute deals assembled to win one championship that would blow it up the following year), is one of the most heartbreaking things about this loss. Those players worked their asses off hoping to make up for the 1995 WS loss, and came up empty yet again. And of course to all the fans back home in Cleveland, it was just another slap in the face to reality that it was too good to be true. The Indians will always be the real spriitual champions of 1997...

  • @adrianselbst6777
    @adrianselbst6777 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    If by "little dinker" out to right field you mean the sharpest possible base hit by CJ, then you're very much correct Mike.

    • @codym2049
      @codym2049 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      that was a little dinker lol

    • @adrianselbst6777
      @adrianselbst6777 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@codym2049 by Johson? cmon that's a line drive

  • @ryankensinger9433
    @ryankensinger9433 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome!

  • @spinner9057
    @spinner9057 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Omar should've just pissed his pants

  • @tmitche9
    @tmitche9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Crying all over again…sports gods are not kind to us here in Cleveland 😢

  • @garretterickson6474
    @garretterickson6474 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why does nobody talk about this series? Im a huge baseball fan and ive never seen anything about this.
    *Born in 96 for context

    • @americandissident9062
      @americandissident9062 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Partly because the Marlins basically popped up in ‘97 as a decent team, nothing amazing, and stunningly won the WS, but IMMEDIATELY sold off all of their good players to become basically a AAA team, so it never had a chance to become a story. Happened almost exactly the same way in 2003. Sucked for years, then became decent and got a wild card spot again, and miraculously won the WS, and once again sold everyone off in the offseason. They’ve only made the playoffs one time since then, last year I think, and lost.
      No one discusses it much because the Marlins are a team with two WS titles but zero history whatsoever.

    • @willyrodriguez10
      @willyrodriguez10 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@americandissident9062 except the marlins did not sell everyone after 2003. They lost Pudge Rodriguez and Derreck Lee to free agency, but the team was the same. They even finish above 500 just not enough for the playoffs and the same happened in 05. So, inform yourself better

  • @msolec2000
    @msolec2000 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yeah, don't get excuses on the 2B error. The game went to extras because of you.

  • @jcdova29
    @jcdova29 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why were people making excuses for Nagy about coming in relief? Game 7 all hands on deck. He holding the fort was just as big as he starting it.

  • @crowtservo
    @crowtservo ปีที่แล้ว

    I only felt good Jim Leyland and Bobby Bonilla. They won the World Series they should have won in Pittsburgh.

  • @SwordHMX
    @SwordHMX ปีที่แล้ว

    I am forever grateful to the Narlins for denying Mike Hargrove a ring.

  • @torie4Life
    @torie4Life 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wished the Indians would’ve won especially since the Marlins dismantled their team like a week later.

  • @woodenelicoolman4087
    @woodenelicoolman4087 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It’s like Bill Buckner’s error

    • @courtgizzle
      @courtgizzle 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Na. It’s like game 7 of the 2001 World Series.

  • @TimFrith24
    @TimFrith24 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    After 107 seasons, the Cleveland Indians are no more. Next season, they will become the Cleveland Guardians.

  • @oeao2841
    @oeao2841 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    talk about game of inches

    • @jackson5116
      @jackson5116 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      yup. It's also why playoff errors are so magnified. Forget what happened in 2003's game 6 of the NLCS, it was that error that led to the collapse, and a for sure grounder here led to the winning run coming across, instead of being in the top half of the next inning.

    • @courtgizzle
      @courtgizzle 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The worse is game 7 of 2001 World Series

  • @aboxofbroken8tracks983
    @aboxofbroken8tracks983 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why would they go to the trouble of removing the plastic from the lockers and wheeling out the trophy because the Marlins had simply TIED the game? Did they have some premonition that the Indians couldn't possibly win it? Wouldn't it make more sense to put plastic on BOTH teams' lockers and keep the trophy in some neutral place until the end of the game?

    • @dougg2012
      @dougg2012 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      When the Marlins had won, if the celebratory decorations had still been in the Indians locker room, it would’ve been way to much work to assemble all that, stage included, in 10-20 minutes. The guys were probably setting up at the start of the 8th inning in the Indians clubhouse. It’s a neutral position.

    • @aboxofbroken8tracks983
      @aboxofbroken8tracks983 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      How is the Indians' clubhouse a "neutral position"?

    • @dougg2012
      @dougg2012 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      ABoxOfBroken8Tracks I meant that after the Marlins had tied the game, they most likely disassembled the celebration and moved in between the two clubhouses.

    • @aboxofbroken8tracks983
      @aboxofbroken8tracks983 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      What gets me is removing the plastic from the Indians' lockers. Like plastic is so scarce they could only have it in one locker room. Why not both, if it's a close game in the late innings?

    • @dougg2012
      @dougg2012 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      ABoxOfBroken8Tracks 💰

  • @MarkDaSilva-z9i
    @MarkDaSilva-z9i 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I was mad. Mesa screwed up when it mattered.

  • @juanpabloruiz4652
    @juanpabloruiz4652 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    then why couldn,t they just go with orel hershiser

  • @henrybass7021
    @henrybass7021 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Just like the 2017 Super Bowl when Atlanta ALMOST won the game!

    • @KWCline91
      @KWCline91 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Henry Bass technically, that was worse because the Indians had a one-run lead in this game, which isn’t always safe and secured. With the Falcons, they flat out choked!

  • @LeoWhalen1933
    @LeoWhalen1933 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Advance men and event planners get a bad rap. They are not encouraging early celebration. I hate hearing about teams getting mad about parade planning and all that shit.

  • @NoahBodze
    @NoahBodze 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That was a stupid, stupid day that I hated very much.

  • @mikewalsh1189
    @mikewalsh1189 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    MLB protocol? That’s BS. Then explain all of the other shots of ownership celebrating in the stands every other year (including when the road team wins). No one is ever in the clubhouse prior to the end of the game. He’ll, the trophy ceremony doesn’t take place for at least 20 minutes after the final out.

  • @sethtate2079
    @sethtate2079 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Geez... the marlins was too freaking lucky that year. Tommy Gregg robbed the braves and mesa screwed the Indians. A few months later the marlins have a fire sale. Baseball is so frustrating sometimes.

  • @cosmowanda868
    @cosmowanda868 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    For baseball's best fans, it was just about as low as it could possibly get.
    For baseball's worst (and nastiest) fans, it was just about as good as it could possibly get.
    For everyone else, it was just about as '90s as it could possibly get.

  • @johnnygunzfilmbuff7821
    @johnnygunzfilmbuff7821 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bad luck to see a World Series trophy before winning the World Series.

  • @jakubwidlarz
    @jakubwidlarz 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    That was one lazy slider.

  • @EricAKATheBelgianGuy
    @EricAKATheBelgianGuy 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I felt it should have been Atlanta in that World Series. I mean, only two Marlins have potential HOF careers, in my opinion - Moises Alou, who fell off the ballot early, and Gary Sheffield, who has the PED connections to his name. Should have been Braves-Orioles that year.

    • @pomerlain8924
      @pomerlain8924 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      If the Braves had won the NLCS, they would have been in the World Series. But they didn't. They lost in 6 games with the Marlins winning all their games against Smoltz, Glavine and Maddux. Doesn't matter about the HOF careers. What matters is who showed up win it mattered, and that was the Marlins.

    • @KWCline91
      @KWCline91 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      marcumty the Orioles were good back then

    • @thejoeyd9207
      @thejoeyd9207 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Except those teams lost, so that's why the Indians and Marlins deserved to be there. So there's that.

    • @thomasd.maybank272
      @thomasd.maybank272 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KWCline91 Very good

    • @courtgizzle
      @courtgizzle 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Na. Should of been yankees and Braves again in 1997.

  • @jeffmarchand9254
    @jeffmarchand9254 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    got em

  • @jcdova29
    @jcdova29 ปีที่แล้ว

    Two measly runs that’s all Cleveland managed to score in game seven at home!!! Yeah you don’t deserve to win. Two runs with that high power offense. And I don’t know what Mesa was doing shaking off pitches from the manager. Was Hargrove the manager in charge or was he just a puppet???

    • @mmmbbq
      @mmmbbq 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Game 7 was not in Cleveland.

  • @patrickgray5633
    @patrickgray5633 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Makes you sick I'm sure if your a Indians player & you saw what Brian Anderson & Omar Vizquel saw among others that close.

    • @mrmajikjr
      @mrmajikjr 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      At least BA got a ring in 2001

    • @Sephiroth766
      @Sephiroth766 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Bip Roberts as well

  • @janellemaynait
    @janellemaynait 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tony Fernandez may he rest in peace but he fucked up big time

  • @SilentMovements305
    @SilentMovements305 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    😂😂😂😂 one time for Florida

  • @sonnysubedi3297
    @sonnysubedi3297 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    worst loss in any sport in my lifetime as a Cleveland fan...ditto w Grover, still not over it

  • @erics2739
    @erics2739 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Classic

  • @Tyrunner0097
    @Tyrunner0097 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mesa really needs to grow up and put his petty ego aside.

  • @THERSC216
    @THERSC216 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    F&*# you, Jose Mesa......signed NE Ohio!!!!!!

  • @geor1717
    @geor1717 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Omg 😭🙈

  • @gavinpeter4087
    @gavinpeter4087 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    First

  • @brianbiekman8805
    @brianbiekman8805 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    The Curse of the Grotesquely Racist Mascot

    • @thejoeyd9207
      @thejoeyd9207 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Brian Biekman they've won it twice as the Indians...

    • @thegoat4849
      @thegoat4849 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Pussy

    • @michaeldonatelli7166
      @michaeldonatelli7166 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      If it’s a curse it’s over, because they’re getting rid of it

    • @EssexAggiegrad2011
      @EssexAggiegrad2011 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not since 1948

    • @courtgizzle
      @courtgizzle 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I’m now here that this Cleveland team is changing the name