From Alabama SUPERSTAR to Out of The NFL in 3 Years (What Happened to Tim Williams?)
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- Alabama produces a ton of NFL talent and great defensive lineman, but the subject of todays video (Tim Williams) didn't live up to the hype. He was a big time recruit coming out of high school and became a big time player at Alabama but his draft stock tanked and his NFL career was labeled a BUST, so what happened?
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He’s just another reminder that what you do in college doesn’t mean a damn thing when it becomes your job
Saban is a master at taking athletes and motivating them. In the NFL they don't have the time or the patience to deal with grown people that have maturity issues.
Why would Nick Saban’s players have more maturity issues than players from other programs?
@@scottjackson163 They don't. I'm pretty sure I never said they did. I said he was a master at handling them.
Rolando McLain was the same - his problem was he grew up a thug, never grew out of it despite tons of help.
Butt bama fans didn't care about it when he was playing for bama but as soon ad you leave all of a sudden he was a thug as long as he serves a purpose people turn their head the other way and these fans act surprised later when they find out money was the reason they go to these scools
Ruben Foster too…
At least he came back with the cowboys and played
@@budmoses8364 I guess Rolando bugs me the most because he's from the same city in AL that I live in. My oldest son played football with him while he played in high school. He had all the physical gifts, all the support and help of some loving families who helped raise him, and he still just threw it all away. Got into trouble locally out here after "retiring". Just crazy how some people have everything handed to them and they just give it away, while others have to struggle and fight and compete like crazy just to hopefully get noticed by somebody.
I saw him cuss 3 Decatur city cops plum out and when they wrote him a ticket he signed it FUCK YOU! he could have had a long nfl career but he didn’t give a fk frfr
As a Ravens fan I really was hyped for this man, sucks he didn't pan out
same man
Tim Smith was a monster off the edge at Bama. I hope he can get it together
Videos keep getting better Scott, keep up the great vids!
Followed him close at Alabama. At Bama he was usually put in as a defensive rush specialist especially on 3rd down. Didn’t even know he was no longer in the NFL. Thanks for the video.
Thank you man, he obviously didn’t know that or see that. He was just a pass rush specialist that was all speed and couldn’t play every down. He was never close to being one of their ‘superstars’ on defense.
That dude was a BEAST i was lucky to grow up watching him play for Alabama
Love your videos bro keep it up
As a ravens fan I thought he’d be a monster
Cool video, thanks Scott.
Great content. Tim Williams was a vital piece of the 2015 and 2016 Alabama defense!
Too bad he decided to disappear in the title game vs Clemson in '16.
@@marktastic86 it seems like everyone did that night. Bad night
@@blakemcclellan5748 lost by 4 points. The players did fine, Clemson just wanted it more.
@@theoneandonly1440 I’m glad I revisited this. I was thinking of 2018 game. No complaints with the 16 title game!
@@blakemcclellan5748 yeah the last Clemson loss haunts me still
He was an outside line backer at bama. Bama ran a 3-4 defense and sometimes the outside linebackers lined up on the line in a 5-2 defense. Idk what he was in the pros but he was a BEAST pass rusher at bama with johnathan Allen and Reggie Ragland. He’s got the 2015 ring to prove it
The best edge rusher of the Saban Era. When the defense lined up you was expecting him to make a play every down.
Those other three schools you spoke of will take anyone as long as they're a good athlete. Grades and attitude do not matter to those other programs.
Tim Williams was never a superstar, he was clearly a product of the system around him
I hate to say this but “did not go according to plan” is often said when someone is already not too smart and then mixes drugs into the mix.
Narc
Do Sergio Kindle from Texas Longhorns
Another dude that did nothing for the ravens but his story is way more interesting
THROW-FLIPPING-BACK PLAYER
Yooooo, Haven't heard this guys name in forever.... Great choice!!!!
I knew a guy who played against him in high school. I heard he had a bit of a drinking problem while in college.
@@vsauce4678 Sleep walking derailed his career, didn’t it? Or is that more of a cover up.
What’s the song you use in the background of these videos?
THE KING!
Dam depressing. If he had the motor I’m sure he would’ve been a sack artist. Shows how important it is to scout for guys who are self-driven and focused.
Honestly not having the intro song was really refreshing it was getting a bit old.
Calling someone good enough to make the NFL, even for a day, a bust is probably unwise. Even if your NFL record is better than his it’s still no reason to resort to name calling. Stats, production, and criminal incidents are all that’s needed - they speak for themselves.
Nowadays, Saban wouldn't take him. Character matters as much as ability for Saban now. He doesn't want "energy vampires" disrupting his team.
I had never watched his high school videos. I would have stopped recruiting him too based on that.
Luckily Saban is smarter than me and Tim did some good things at Alabama.
He did not just do some good things he was a really good edge rusher for Bama for 2 seasons.
@@joeblow2069 I think he was better than an "edge rusher" (a term I hate). Once he started getting more PT than just on 3rd down he was surprisingly good at stopping off tackle runs.
@@hackermusic3355 this
LOL you told us absolutely nothing. Smh great video 👍🏽 he didn’t work hard in the NFL and ended up not making it... SHOCKING
He’s going half ass in every play
He was beast at bama sometimes when guys get paid they lose the hunger Rolando was a beast great leader kept getting in trouble don't know why in pros lived watching in college though
Like the cliche says, "Guys hit harder when they play for money." It's a big step up from College football to the NFL. Some guys can make the adjustment. Some guys can't and some of these guys had stellar College careers. As a Draftee, you have to be ready to take the Big Step up to succeed in the Pros. Everybody is good in the NFL. You have to put in the work.
He was a great edge rusher there’s no doubt but the LBs around him helped him so much dude played with Ruben foster and Ryan Anderson and had minka and Eddie “pick6” jackson in the defensive backfield
yea that 2016 bama defense to me is one of the greatest defenses in cfb i watched every game damn near they legit got the team to the natty by they self because that was jalen hurts freshman year
@@xcsick9918 I could have went undefeated at QB with that defense lol
How can linebackers help a DE rush exactly? Lol
@@freda9643 he plays off the line with his hand in the dirt
@@freda9643 and the linebacker plug up lanes that helps him have one on ones it’s a lot of stuff and Tim wasn’t A DE anyway he was a outside linebacker
Could see in the high school films he didn’t go all out in many plays. Body language showed lack of total commitment which is need fie the NFL
I played with a bunch of white boys at u high lol
Everybody ran away from me lol. I had 30 sacks my senior year
And broke the LOUISIANA STATE RECORD. For sacks my freshman year 34. Sacks. Yea right lol. Put some respect on my name hater
My God his HS footage was underwhelming. He looked really lazy and slow.
You ain't lying, he didnt look good at all. Quitting on pretty much every play unless he won the battle on the snap and had a chance for an "impact play". Those are not guys you want on your team, as they disappear for long stretches and can be cancer on a team.
He was still a 4 star! Mabey he was a little lazy because he had Dylan Moses behind him playing LB
@@sirdior9259 Maybe based on his stats and other games. Based on this footage he was just an oversized body in cleats chasing air. Did you see any plays here that made you think, wow this guy is something special?
@@kylecruel you must not be from baton rouge. It was pretty easy to be lazy sometimes on those U High teams during those years. They had 3,4 & 5 stars all over the field. When he wasn’t making the play another big name was.
There was obviously something that caught JP & coach saban's eyes. You saw what he did at UA; all that mattered.
He had a quick first step
SCOTT WE NEED ANOTHER MIZZOU VIDEO DRINK IS KILLIN THE GAME
I know. The CB pickup is huge
The real moral to the story for all who play, ( is a brain is a terrible thing to waste), so study hard, as you need a plan #2 in care things do not work out. Even Walmart wants you be able to think and reason, not just run around the big super store!
It's true though. Kid was getting into a lot of trouble at school and had some other problems as well. Heard about it way before he committed to Bama.
There is no need to talk about the academic standards either as Bama went behind the scenes to get Eddie Lacy eligible and he was dumb.
Never really cared for Williams watching his highlights in highschool and I guess the staff didn't care much either. He was a one trick pony for Bama as well. He was playing in pass rush situations for most of his time at Bama. If people really paid attention and didn't just think "well he came from Bama, so he's going to be elite", they would have seen the same things.
Sometimes it starts in the home, sadly to say. Just like guice
@@oclevi5163 yep, no father figure for Guice.
As a Bama fan I always had a feeling if this guy could just put it together he could’ve been another Derek Thomas or Cornelius Bennett but he just didn’t have the work ethic.
Hopefully Will Anderson will
Those rookie numbers was not a bust they just didn't give him time to develop and get better they just threw him out there with a injury and judged him for it and didn't give him time like so many teams do with sorry QB's
U forgot terrance cody lol
Do Jon Baldwin from Pitt
And AJ Jenkins from Illinois
He was kinda like Derrick Thomas. He was a great edge rusher. But in the pros you have to do so much more. He was never really taught that in college.
Nothing like Derrick Thomas! No where near that talent. Derrick Thomas was a first ballot hof inductee in the NFL
@@savagesouth1806 oh no nothing like DT. My point was in the pros and college he was just a rush end. Derrick was the same in the pros. He just played rush end. But with much better results. Tim just wasn’t trained to be a day to day linebacker and that’s what hurt him in the pros.
@@tim6167 Derrick Thomas was listed as a linebacker but was 100% a defensive end. One of the most dominant defensive ends ever. Remember when Clowney was a heisman finalist with 13 1/2 sacks? 12 1/2 sacks less than Thomas had his senior year 😂😂😂
This is not unusual to report but unfortunate for the players that are reported on, this young man definitely had opportunities cutting 3 days picked up in one cut in 2 days picked up in one cut in one day picked up in one you can't always get what you want.
Nothing went wrong! If you're drafted in rounds 3-7, that's means the NFL isn't sure about you to begin with, which means you might or might not have a long career. There's no overwhelming shock, that his career didn't pan out in the NFL. It just confirms the NFL Scouts didn't hold him in high regard as far as being a 1st or 2nd round draft pick.
Not trying to hate, but that HS tape wasn’t impressive lol but that was just one game , was a beast at Bama tho
Ya, the tape of the high school was about as unimpressive as you can get. He made almost no impact on every play shown.
Williams is still with the Riders but that could just be because they haven't played a single game or held a training camp in over a year. But effort and problems notwithstanding after looking at his size and speed he was likely never suited to the NFL. Physically speaking he's well suited for our 3 down passing game but his next problem may be that he won't be able to hide any lack of effort or attitude problems in an 9 team league where the size of the field and the speed of the game seems to magnify personal effort,
So, here's hoping that he can get his career back on track especially since there are no guaranteed contracts in the CFL. A fact which means if he has one off field issue or one bad game where he gives up on a play he'll likely be gone and replaced with one of the other former College Superstars who weren't quite right for the NFL pool.
The potential for our game appears to be there but, is the will and the discipline?
Do a video on Randy Gregory
I’ve had that on my list for a LONG TIME
You should do a video on alter tenpenny. He went to bama as well. Same class. & sad sad story. RIP🙏🏾
Already did!
Dude had so much potential. He was apparently so fast and disruptive during practice that they would make him sit plays because the offensive unit legitimately couldn't run their plays properly. They're having to do the same thing now with Will Anderson in the Bama practices. Who is basically an even better and more complete Tim Williams. He will more than likely be a top 5 pick if he stays healthy.
Bama has the best players, so it's an all star team. and when those players are in the nfl, they get exposed. thats why you have so many busts from Bama.
So that’s why there’s more Bama players IN THE LEAGUE STILL PLAYING AS WELL I SUPPOSE. All you jealous losers sound the same
Y’all use freak to easily his work out numbers are sub par at a near 244 pound and 32 itch arms 7.36 3 cone 4.68 1.9 split average to blow average in all those categories
yet no one could stop him.. that measurable BS is just that: BS. Any setbacks he's had is all on his mentality.
@@thundorkat factz nobohe could stop me
Colt Lyerla #15 from Oregon...
His top 3 choices for school: Alabama, Florida State, and Miami (FL). What do those 3 have in common?
They are all known to pay players and all 3 schools have been place on scholarship reductions and other penalties for recruitment issues. He's not the only top Louisiana guy who spurned LSU to go to Alabama. Landon Collins did the same thing and Landon's mother showed up displeasure on national TV when he picked Alabama. Same thing with Joe McKnight. He picked USC over LSU in an epic upset. Tim Williams did the same exact thing those other two guys did and we pretty much know USC for sure was not clean in recruiting certain top prospects.
Got a salty fan huh
Bama? It’s only allegations on them and I can’t even remember the last time they had serious recruiting violations or punishments. So what you’re saying seems very uninformed.
Landon Collins and Tim Williams chose Alabama over LSU because they're a superior program from top to bottom, hell Stevie Wonder could tell you that. All USC had to do was show Joe McKnight clips of Reggie Bush and say "that's how we're gonna use you in our offense" it didn't take much to get kids to go to USC back when Pete Carroll was there.
@@A_Easley You can't remembered is not very informed either. Alabama already got slapped with level 3 and level 4 recruiting violations the last few years. It's just the tip of the ice berg. 16 violations in recruiting impermissibility. They also got put on probation before Saban arrived and walking on thin ice ever since.
People already forgot about Alabama paying Albert Means to come to Alabama to play football. He chose Memphis, but that doesn't mean Alabama doesn't pay for players.
Tim Williams is not the only guy. Albert Means pretty much expose the pay for football schemes.
@@Buchanan909 Do you really mean that USC showed video clip of Reggie Bush's house he got to live for free? I got that same video of Bush and his parents moving out of the house they got for free too back in 2006. ESPN has that: www.espn.com/college-football/news/story?id=2425136
Joe McKnight wasn't swayed because of Reggie Bush going there. He wants to know if he was going to get paid like Reggie at USC.
As a Bama and Ravens fan, very disappointed
James Wilder jr from FSU
need a breckyn hager vid
That's what happens when being a stoner is more important than going to work and putting in the work on a daily basis.
Truth this coming from a stoner. You can’t let it control you 🤷🏻♂️ keep weed part of life do not your life 👌🏼
af you're one of the only honest stoners out there. So many people think it doesnt get you addicted but I've seen people suffer withdrawal symptoms if they dont smoke for a single day.
In my opinion the 2016/17 loss to Clemson was an Illegal Pick play but that’s just me. I also believe that the 2016/17 Bama Defense was the best in school history. You had some of the 2014 guys still around and the roots of the 2017 Natty team as well. A defense loaded with NFL talent.
It is very clear that Bama and LSU have a very relaxed drug testing process Keep in mind drug testing isnt done by the NCAA but by the schools and the compliance dept and are supposed to self report and self impose before the NCAA does. Who knows how strung out this dude was on game days. Yep this guy was a RoLando Mclain 2.0
I know at Oklahoma if you fail a drug test you miss a game, You fail a second drug test you miss half a season. You really dont want to fail a third test
So a 3rd rounder that doesn’t pan out is a bust? Or is it any Nick Saban player drafted at any point in the draft that doesn’t play 10 years in the league a bust? Please explain
He was a projected top 15 at one point
I’m a ravens fan and I had a round 1 grade on Tim Williams and went ape shit when we got him in round 3. This was a disappointment for real
Decosta use me for a excape goat. He got rid of all Ozzie picks and drafted new guys.
Thanks for the video. I wondered what the deal was with this guy, high pick but absolute bust. I follow the NFL more than cf and I've heard that some Alabama players don't succeed without the structure of the 'Alabama bubble' is this really a thing? That was said about Eddie Lacy, why he couldn't keep his weight down.
Do Kevin johnson CB
Tim Williams was all speed zero arms didn’t put in the gym work to fix his frame.
Do a video what happened to Tajh Boyd
He’s a real estate agent in upstate SC
Damn we stay in LSU back yard
You better because you're not gonna win in bama backyard and bama pockets or real deep and these young men know this and we all know about how bama recruits players $$$$$ and dont act shocked
@@mauriceboykin4422 don’t worry we will but y’all keep coach O because he talks cute, don’t he!?...enjoy the hype
Really didn't pan out well for him
Maybe LSU watched the HS tape you are playing? Talk about lack of effort.
Who is the best Bama d lineman ever?
Eric Curry or John Copeland.
Hard choice for me between Jonathan Allen and Q Williams for a strictly D-lineman.
As a listed D end (who would be an OLB today) I would take Leroy Cook.
Marcell Dareus
Mount cody
D. Thomas EASILY
Tim Williams just had an aloof personality from what I have read. Not the best personality for the fabric of an NFL franchise and being part of a team.
Players make more at bama than the NFL!!
Let’s see your proof...just another jealous hater
Stole @flemloraps whole get up 😂😂😂
Dude was a one man wrecking crew on third down for Bama and u could hardly block him one on one. I really thought he would b decent player in the nfl.
Alabama ALWAYS put out great players but they don't always translate to the NFL.
That happens to all schools. Every first round player don't pan out
Yeah the school that has more players on NFL rosters than anyone will always put out some “busts.”
@@sharilowrey6135 But Bama ain't that school. A school like LSU and Miami ALWAYS has NFL guys that pan out. Bama... Not so much. But in college they are beast
There's an inside joke in the NFL that Bama players don't pan out. The players around them are too good, so when they get in the league, where everybody is good as hell, they struggle and get exposed.
@@jaywin9048 you are telling the absolute truth they ball out in college and don't pan out in the NFL
I really liked Tim..A fan always
LONG LIVE FLEMLO
What 😭
Kelly Bryant?
The “Big Show” NFL ain’t the NCAA, many players can’t make the transition! Surprise?
Professional football is a business with more labor than they need. Ouch! ✝️🍺🎱
The true test of how good a nick Saban coached bama player is...is when they go to the NFL🤷 I mean, just about EVERYBODY looks good at bama
Not really u can find a lot of issues with a good film study
@@Aaron-wq3jz not everybody but most. But agreed. You'll need legit film study to find flaws on some of bama's guys
@@mrdoctorprofessorpatrick803 fair enough
Tim problem he was to small to play defense of line in NFL and he did not put in work to be a outside linebacker
This video was ass and it you know it. and it don’t matter whoever made this. Was a hater. Bekux Tim is doing fine currently still playing. Focus on your kids and what went wrong with yours.
Jake Funk
Do Ryan Anderson Alabama linebacker
I was wondering what happened to this guy. What a waste.
What were the off the field issues in high school?
i could never find it. Literally, i believe it was an excuse
As a former high school teacher who had a few students I know go Division I, recruiters hear things. Parties too much, smokes too much, heavy drinker, kind of a jerk as a student, or a counselor gives off the vibe that this isn't the best kid without saying it explicitly, etc. Not saying Tim Williams is guilty of any of these things but recruiters do seek out information on players, word gets out and when they hear it from multiple sources they take that into account so that could be the case with him. They just heard one too many stories or just were reading between the lines on what people were saying and decided to back off.
@@ScottFisherCFB scouts are able to do far more research than we are. We have the internet, they have connections. Stuff we are never able to figure out unless we know someone is easy info to get for them.
Weed not that serious bruh who gives af if he got caught with it the shit legal in 21 states now
Academic standards? 😂😂😂😂 For LSU and Alabama? What did he do miss spell his name on the application?
First 🥇
Man he was ass. He was only good at bama because he was surrounded by talent. Once he went to a team that weren’t that good he got exposed
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 these highlights says it all
lol you have never played obviously. Bama's pass rush was subpar in previous years to his arrival which was probably the only "gripe" about their traditionally outstanding defenses. Tim was unstoppable. He was quick AND had moves, you could not block him. NO TEAM COULD BLOCK HIM AT THE D1 LEVEL. Surrounded by talent would make things more difficult as it would've firstly been too difficult to even see the field. I watched this dude practice with my big brother one day and we both said, "yep, bruh is next, about time." Him and ryan anderson. so go on somewhere with this pseudo-analysis.
@@thundorkat this has gotta be a joke. I don’t know what games you were watching but even in the highlights you can see he wasn’t doing shit
@@freddiebrewington8475then how’d it achieve what many athletes are striving to do? Go d1 , take pressure off of your parents to pay for college and end up making it to the league? Stop that nonsense dawg
It's because they can't cheat in the same ways. Alabama pays players and does them up. Everyone knows that. All top tier teams do this. Yall can't be surprised
All top tier teams?
You’re full of it dude.
Who?!
So how is he a bust?
Damn you biting femlo on every aspect but que the wayne
How was he a bust??? He wasn't a top pick.
He was a first round talent but slipped cuz of his drug tests. He was seen as a huge prospect
Did you find the worst high school game footage he had and decide to use it for this video lol?
It was his only HS footage i could find lol
Bro, do you be watching Alabama games? Be honest with me. Yes, Tim’s stats were very good for someone of his stature and usage, and he was a FAN-FAVORITE not a “superstar,” but Tim was NEVER a sure fire first rounder. He was never ever one of top 3-4 players just on that side of the ball. He was a gadget, sub-package demon that exploited the 1on1s because of the work that guys like Tomlinson/Robinson/Reed/Allen/Payne/Anderson were doing to free him up. He was always just a fast, undersized OLB that was not an every down player like a Ryan Anderson or even Will Anderson/Chris Allen now. We loved him but he was never a better player on defense than Minkah/Jon Allen/A’Shawn/Jarran/Ryan Anderson/Tomlinson/Reuben Foster/Rashaan Evans/Eddie Jackson/Daron Payne. He was never a can’t-miss NFL prospect or an Alabama “superstar.” He was just on probably the best defense this school has ever fielded and benefited greatly from it. Why go out of your way to make a video on sub-package player that wasn’t a first rounder? Save this mess for Dee Milliner or somebody. Can tell you either real young, we’re not watching their games and/or you only looking at stats to decide the basis of your video.
I re watched the 2015 & 16 sec championship and the commentators kept talking about how he would be a 1st round pick so I researched who he was and saw off the field stuff messed up his pre draft process and that was 7th all time in sacks at Bama and thought it would be a cool video
I'd take the 2011 defense over the defense that Tim was a part of. Both were badass, though. 2021 defense has the potential to be a Monster, too. Roll Tide !!
Look let's be real bama or nobody else will have a chance of winning games with alterboys but get some roughnecks or bad boys and you'll have a chance so why do people act shocked when this young men get in trouble but as soon they no longer serve a purpose they no longer a good person hell that's the reason they attend these programs because the boosters make sure their bein taken care of
lots of strength but no heart... probably heading to gang life
A player may have the skill and talent to stand out at the college level. Even dominate the game. But the in the NFL, every player was a college star. And when you talk about those who start, they are the very best. That is why this story is not exceptional. It is the norm. Football history is littered with superstar college players who never made it in the NFL. Drew Bledsoe or JaMarcus Russell sound familiar?
He smoked cigarettes
Stricter steroid testing in the NFL = lots of bama draft busts