You two are an asset to TH-cam RC Airplane Videos. I am grateful for the time and effort you put into these videos. The amount of detail is excellent. I have learned a lot from watching. Keep up the good work.
I have the arrows viper, and it’s very clean assembly and reliable. It’s the jet that gave me confidence going bigger EDF. It’s a very kind jet if you have someone to launch it for you. Since it’s tricky to launch if you use 2200mah batteries (6 minutes flight time which is awesome for a jet). Cannot wait for more arrows planes reviews, but for me it’s one of the best value for money brands. I hope that one day we will see Motionrc products on this channel.
I love how you do your videos with flight, build & setup!!! Some other R/C channels would rather just do mostly unboxings because they're too lazy to get out to the field. Unboxings are sooo boring. Thanks Brian!
Thanks William! I agree that unboxings are boring, even ours ;) But so many people want to see, so we try to do it for everyone who's sizing up the model they MIGHT want to buy ;)
I've owned a few Arrows planes. Good quality at a great price, even now for the most part, after the ridiculous price hikes. The cell count can get a little fudged with smaller sized batteries. Easy to pick up the wrong one and not realize it. BAE looks like a nice flying plane. Good stuff Brian and camera crew. AirHammer out!!
Really cool plane I like watching your videos because you explain everything that comes with the plane and more. It's really nice you do that. I have learned a lot from you my friend. Thank you
Ive built mine tonight and plan to maiden tomorrow. Wish me luck! Your video is what led me to the aircraft and the content is much appreciated. A big thanks to you and Megan. I unfortunately couldn't use the link due to shipping prices and it turns out my local model shop had one. The ones available in the UK don't appear to have the vector stabiliser so I banged a dumb OrangeRX 6ch receiver in that I had lying around, bound to my Radiomaster. Ive gone for the larger end of the battery range which is 2200mAh 3s instead of 1300mAh and it balances OK. Interesting titbit for you....the ESC is rated for 4s after researching the spare parts but I'm not sure if the motor can handle 16.8v. I'm not risking it for a while but might try a 4s someday. Ill let you know if it works.
I flew mine on 4S and it was very nice!!! GIVE HER HELL WHEN YOU GO TO LAUNCH -100% throttle...don't screw around, or you will end up broke in half!!!!!!!!!!!! (I did that too, and we flew it around ripped in half - it was a great little video, but not sure if we'll share it or not)
An update on the maiden. I treated myself to 4 batteries and I had 4 successful flights. Its a stunning flyer. Fast, aerobatic and patriotic. Being British it actually attracted a small crowd at my field. It was like a minature version of an airshow here in the UK. Quite a few inquisitive people came over and asked lots of questions about it when I had finished. When I do a maiden I take a second aircraft just incase, and I took the UMX A-10 V2 which I bought after your review too. I had a great time and once again, thank you.
Ya gotta give Brian credit! He's an awesome pilot but an even better repairer... I almost didn't even notice the two chunks taken out of the left wing! lol... Spill the beans Brian, did that Eagle tree get ya again?? PS. Just bustin ya chops buddy... Love your videos! D-Rail
LOL - No it was the gutter ;) Although...we did a "Second Thoughts" on this plane, and may have flown it around with half the plane ripped off ;) You'll have to wait and see. She does great on 4S 2200mAh 30C Gen1 Smart lipo, btw...Even if it's hanging out the front of the plane ;)
Brian I am SO glad I found you! Endless information. Fantastic videos. You could go a little slower setting up the transmitter for us new guys. But maybe that is just me, GREAT JOB!!
Glad you're here with us! We always struggle with radio setup speed as people have a (strong) opinion both ways. ;) You'll start to get the hang of it in no time, but until then, you can always pause or slow down the playback speed using the little gear icon.
I find the easiest way to launch these is using the throttle cut. Switch on throttle cut, push stick to full throttle, right hand on stick, model in left hand, flick off throttle cut with right hand, launch with left under arm, have full control of elevator and ailerons from launch this way.
Excellent tight quarters flying sir. Im glad I got one of these since I got a small flying box to deal with, most edfs need space. Btw give my regards to CC its good to always follow her "sage advise"😊.
the arrows models seem pretty good, but here in UK we dont seem to get the gyro with them, by the way praise to your good lady on camera, she does a great job
A lot of people are succesfully flying these on 4s out of the box. They draw around 37A static on 4s at full throtyle, so probably still above 30A in unloaded free flight so I'd be playing it safe and sticking a 40A in there instead.
I just tried to fly this but every time it pretty much just dropped out of the sky, not a lovely take off like yours. The last attempt it looked like it was taking flight but cut in half hitting a tall bush!
Brian, I had the arrows viper, and I always flew it on 4s. It was awesome, sadly a storage shed fire destroyed over 100 planes last week. But I would definitely fly this on 4s
It works on a 2200 3s really well - in the UK we do not get the Vector unit - it does not need one.. it glides really well - also its strange but we have dialled down the aileron movements...not increase them....The Arrows T33 is another awesome jet that they do...
Hello FT been watching your flights interesting "grass bounce launches"😉. Got this nice model 2 weeks ago but been surveying YT videos observing its quirks and characteristics before I maiden mine. Overall Im very happy with choice. Cheers 😊
It did look like the 2200mah battery made it hard for the Hawk to get on step and contributed to the grass bounce take offs. I can imagine flying it at the upper battery size/weight limits made the aileron roll much more sensitive than at lighter/smaller battery weights. Any thoughts would be appreciated.
Specifications say Required Battery:11.1V 1300MAH 30C, so why did they send a 2S battery? Just to see you crash? Do you think that wrapping the wires around the receiver could have any negative affect on the antenna?
Hi Brian, with self level on do you get slight up elevator when full throttle. Mine does not sure if this is normal? Elevator doesn’t move on the other two modes. Cheers 👍🏻
I have ordinary control when in Auto-Leveling, but there will be LIMITS to bank and pitch angles, to prevent overturning the plane. I wonder if you've got something goofed up on your vector??? OR, are you using AS3X and SAFE? ....what Rx, (should have asked that first, sorry!)
I'm looking to move up from my UMX citation, what would you recommend as a second edf? I am limited to space as there are not any flying fields near me.Thanks Brian!
If you're limited with space, these 50mm EDF's from Arrows might be the ticket for you! BAE Hawk bit.ly/3pSmp4v + AR410 bit.ly/3GnSY0w T-33 bit.ly/3DuVOPp + AR410 bit.ly/3GnSY0w Viper bit.ly/3uinxlD + AR630 bit.ly/3rkGZMI
I love T-45s, I need one! Awesome flight! Have you flown the Arrows F-15? I just did a unboxing video on mine and build video tomorrow. Can’t wait to fly it this weekend.
@@BrianPhillipsRC I wanted it for a while and just picked one up. Very nice build, my only complaint well two! The RX mounting is kinda dumb and had to make 6 6in Extensions and remove the battery tray and run the RX up front and the other is plastic gear servos, definitely should be metal! But all in all great plane so far.
Pretty dang cool I just don't know why they wouldn't go ahead and add a rudder I wouldn't think it would cost that much more This would be a good plane to do a video on how to add a rudder It looks like it fly's pretty dang good well with a 3S battery that is 😁 Nice review guys 🔥👍✌️
Sno - I'd have to disagree - I LOVE rudder ;) I don't think they add problems, but they DO add some cost and some complexity. That being said, the ability to slip, and speed rolls is very nice. That being said, between Rudder and Flaps, I'd want flaps ;)
Very cool little jet, nice review. Seems like it would be much easier to use a 6 channel receiver and assign the gyro to the flaps or retract switch.....
I seldom fly with a gyro, after watching this video I'm going to purchase this, through your link and probably try the gyro on a 6 channel receiver. I got totally confused watching you program the 4 channel receiver. I don't think my DX7 has the program capabilities that the NX Series has.
It's all about trying to help folks save a few bucks, but like I may have said, the 6CH would make it a lot simpler. This would also add the ability to make an inboard flap mod too ;)
Hey Brian love your videos and awesome flying skills. Could you tell me what the vector connections are please? UK model has no vector so I bought separately but no instructions on how to connect the unmarked pins to the servo wires/throttle ! Thanks in advance
I can't tell you beyond what you see in the video. Here's another trick. Hook up the Rx as usual, then hook up ANY cable...and see what control CHANGES when you wiggle the plane. When you do this, you only have two control axis to figure out...and the Rudder will be unused. When you're out of control channels, you can assume the last would be the Control for Stab/Off/Auto-leveling.
Hi brian love watch ur vids full of great information ive just recently bought a bae hawk 50mm and on the maiden flight went well for about 30 seconds and then lost full throttle was only getting about 20% seems to be the lvc cutting in possibly not sure i was running on a brand new 3s 2200mah overlander fully charged got the plane down ok put another fully charged battery in and same thing again after 25/30 seconds throttle cuts way back would you have any ideas wot could be causing this problem was wondering could it be my receiver at fault my radio great wouldnt be the newest ive had it a long time though ive never had any trouble from it its a hitce optic 5 transmitter with a minima 6t receiver any help would be very much appreciated
Afternoon Brian from here in the UK, Was watching you on one of your videos soldering LED's onto a model, what my question is , the thin wire that you were using look's the same as used in the UMX Timber,does this wire have a reference and is it a copper wire with a coating on it to stop shorting out. I am looking for some to wire up lights on another model. Hope you can understand what I am try to explain to you. Thanks for all the work that you and the Mrs put into your video's, keep it up and Stay safe.
That wire is has a varnish coating over it, so even though it looks like it'll short out, it is actually coated pretty good! You can cut the wire easy, but you can also cut it by accident too ;) Here's some examples of where to get some.... amzn.to/3oS6dPQ - VERY SMALL!
Everything they were selling, SHOULD be back at some point, but Hobbyzone was having trouble getting containers over, last we heard, but I can't say for sure. GREAT PLANE, if it doesn't come back, it'd be a shame
DEFINITELY the Pioneer. don't skip steps, or you'll buy them both anyway, with more frustration involved. You will LOVE flying whatever you get, and when you graduate from it, you'll so much more enjoy your experience. Below are my short list of beginner planes... all of them would be good, but the Pioneer would be perfect if you like it. Description | Purchase | Videos Habu STS 70mm RTF - bit.ly/38Kilv1 - th-cam.com/play/PLXTH0DstRDc5fYbIobNAtMUz2EoT7FGLl.html Apprentice 1.5m RTF bit.ly/2OIjVHd - th-cam.com/play/PLXTH0DstRDc4LA2ldEUZQMVWkJpCslxRc.html Carbon Cub S2 1.3m RTF bit.ly/3bS2r3O - th-cam.com/play/PLXTH0DstRDc4Y9gQ5S22B_3SXmtqylcmM.html T-28 Trojan 1.1m bit.ly/3eOh9Lk - th-cam.com/play/PLXTH0DstRDc6-_gHuXM6a1Nf_2nRxrmlc.html Apprentice 1.2m RTF bit.ly/2OIjVHd - th-cam.com/play/PLXTH0DstRDc43Qw4KNOOfzt14n6ZBo3LS.html Sport Cub S2 UMX bit.ly/3cDYUW1 - th-cam.com/play/PLXTH0DstRDc5gY8qX_x8kAJq3glGMXjDy.html AeroScout 1.1m - bit.ly/30MNn1c - th-cam.com/video/vfZZQXx7jU4/w-d-xo.html Bigfoot 1.3m RTF - bit.ly/30mYdOq - th-cam.com/play/PLXTH0DstRDc7elVLLXihkLRs_J4QQ0Hm-.html Pioneer 620mm RTF - bit.ly/2YotgbY - th-cam.com/play/PLXTH0DstRDc5DZarP-qgPO3IEliNvnPuP.html
Hi Brian love the video, what about providing some links so that UK purchasers can benefit from the Vector stabilization? At present we are forced to buy aftermarket stabilization eg Lemon or Spektrum which adds considerably to the cost £30-£80, therefore it's worth paying shipping from USA to UK.
I know....we have the same issue, only with REFLEX on FMS - gotta be a branding deal. If you can't get the Vector...get the AR630 - this would be PERFECT for this little firecracker ;) AR630 bit.ly/3lh5iqD - AS3X & SAFE with limited telemetry + INTERNAL Antenna AR631 bit.ly/3pYNC3c - AS3X & SAFE with limited telemetry + EXTERNAL Antenna ....slightly more involved setup, but you'd get benefit of flapperons, if you wish, and would be CLEAN ;) Thanks Kevin!
You could! These little 50mm EDF's are a great first time, but I have to admit, I usually suggest the Habu, if someone is asking. I think the 50mm Habu is a perfect beginner offering, plus you'll get wheels up and wheels down experience on a cheap to battery plane. This BAE Hawk will be fun, but it doesn't even have a rudder, and no wheels up wheels down to help you learn the "ways of EDF" ;) Just my 2 Cents... bprc.me/Arrows_BAE_Hawk VS bprc.me/Habu
Hi Brian! I could use some random help. Generally speaking is it acceptable to use a 50c battery in place of a 30 c? My plane says I can use a 3s or a 4s. But I’m confused on on the c rating. I’m under the impression that as long as I don’t go get the 4s then I’m good? If you have a video on it I’ll check it out but I didn’t see one on the guidelines/perimeters so to speak. Regardless, you’re the man!
YES 50C is okay in a plane that calls for 35C, but a 25C pack in the same plane might lead to a puffed lipo pack, or possibly poor performance, or both, or in a worst case scenario, a fire! 50C is better than 30C, and 30C is better than 20C. The ONLY time you don't want a higher C rating would be in a transmitter pack, where you want to hold down the discharge rate to make the battery last a really long time. Generally, the higher the C rating, the better the quality. They can cost more, and sometimes are a BIT heavier, but the higher C rating speaks to the batteries ability to discharge quicker...which is a good thing. you want to be able to move the charge from the pack to the plane's ESC ASAP ;)
I dont know why they sent you a 2S battery. All their 50mm EDFs run on 3s, and are being run on 4s by many people. I havent tried it yet because I dont have a 4S 1500. Despite this being a beginner edf, lots of advanced pilots like them just because they are stress free fun.
It was a total over-sight on their part, and on mine - oh well, stuff happens, but if she would have flown on 2S how crazy would that have been!!!?!? ;)
Awesome Brian, I only had to wait one extra video before you did the Hawk. Getting this one for sure as I’m a Brit, I grew up watching the Red Arrows at air shows and events in England. Living in Colorado now and flying at 8750’ above sea level. In your opinion did you think the Hawk had a powerful or weak 3S power system..?? Thinking I could run this on 4S (1300-1800mah) with a 75/80% throttle rate to protect the stock 30 amp esc. Hoping Arrows have sent you the twin 64mm F-15 already..!!
Howie, I'm not sure if it would handle 4S, but I can say where we are, the air is much less thin than where you are. I want to try, but don't want to kill it ;)
FAR, and I mean REALLY FAR for me to ever give you suggestions, but since the ArrowsRC Viper came out I’ve been flying that 50mm on 1800, 3s, 70c. Since I had a bunch, I maidened and have continued to fly the T-33 and Bae Hawk on the same 1800 3s batteries. (4 minute flight times on all three EDF’s. I’ve flown the baby Viper on 4s 1300’s. Not a lot of difference in performance with less flight time)
I would not recommend it as a beginner. Get the 1.3m Bigfoot. WAYYYY better beginner!!! Bigfoot bit.ly/30mYdOq Or the Pioneer bit.ly/2YotgbY . which review is coming in a few days ;)
So not reading the manual is a sin now. I wondered why the Spektrum SMART batteries were in short supply, you have them look at your stash in and around the wicker basket by the chargers!!!!.
Please don’t encourage people to run it stock on 4s it exceeds 38amps on 4s at full throttle,well above the stock 30amp esc it comes with it will work but your asking for trouble
Hi Brian and Megan Sorry, this is another very very long one so please leave me to last do all the rest first and then come back to me when you have the time to do so. I have given you another thumbs down NO JUST JOKING I have given you a very BIG THUMBS UP. Now that I have got off of my very high horse I hope it is water under the bridge between us, what you didn’t know was somebody in a car park had driven into my car and just drove off causing a fair amount of damage and my day seemed to go from worst to worst and the following day as well when got how much it was going to cost me so I am very sorry that I went OTT with you and Megan you took the brunt of it. I know that in the past that I said that I was not interested in EDF jets and after thinking about it the one EDF jet which I wanted in my collection is the red arrows hawk. I thought you might be doing the red arrows hawk from what you had said in one of the comments between us. I was hoping it was going to be the FMS one BUT I saying that now you have sold me on this one at the price I don’t think you can beat it, Just one question would a 3S 2200mA battery fit in it and if so do you think it might be too heavy for the plane or not ?. It sounds that sometime in the next few years you might do this full time so I think you better think about building a fully kitted out workshop and warehouse to house the planes because you must be getting pretty close to kicking the kids out of their bedrooms making them sleep in the living room so that you can store more planes in their bedrooms even now (Just joking about the kids). If you did do it full time then even maybe you could have your own brand how about calling it Megan Planes sounds better than Brian Planes don’t you think with added value that it’s not far away from Mega Planes. Seriously think what you could do for the hobby if you did it full time the sky’s your limit. I don’t want to blow your trumpet BUT I have not found another TH-cam channel like yours not only do fly the planes (Sometimes a bit crazy) but while you fly them you let us know your thoughts and what adjustments you need to make them fly better, Then when you do the assembly which is, of course, is the first thing to do not only do you highlight any problems which you in counter but also any cock-ups which you make on the way so that we won’t (All except for one) and then the transmitter/receiver set-up, So what I am trying to say is that you do a complete package which I can not find anyone on TH-cam doing the same. I always keep forgetting to say that I love your cats, I have an RSPCA rescue cat he must have been very badly treated before I had him, I think he won’t trust any human 100% including me I have had him for just over 3 years now and I would say he trusts me about 95% now but I wouldn’t be without him now. Steve (NOT STEVEN). PS Brian don’t forget Megan is always right mate and don’t you forget that !!!.
Thanks Steve! Sorry to hear you had to deal with that car accident! So annoying!!! I just helped my brother fix his truck from being side swiped in a gas station by and uninsured motorist. As for kicking the kids out of their rooms, we have a few more steps before that happens - LOL As for full time work here on TH-cam - Can't wait to make it a reality, but lots of growth needed to earn the security we'll need before I can take the plunge ;) As for being complete in our coverage, from Unboxing to flying, to adjustments and even the crashes and mix up's along the way, I thought people, including future me looking back, could get some insight from watching HOW we arrive at certain conclusions...and not just watching me follow through the process uninterrupted, and in perfect order, like that of a Spektrum video. I prefer dragging everyone through the learning process, and I realize this is probably lost on much of even our loyal audience, but when you're NEW, it's gotta be somewhat helpful. We're very glad you are getting good from our effort! Thanks for sharing the reassurances that things are cool between us. I know it seems a bit strange, but even though we have quite a lot of people watching and supporting us, I hate to lose someone over such a silly misunderstanding...better we'd part ways over a more meaningful disagreement ;) LOL! We're glad you're here with us Steve (not Steven - I gather you must have wanted Steve, but TH-cam had given it away prior to your account???)
You two are an asset to TH-cam RC Airplane Videos. I am grateful for the time and effort you put into these videos. The amount of detail is excellent. I have learned a lot from watching. Keep up the good work.
Thanks Jason! We're glad you're enjoying the detail, and help from here to there ;)
Beautiful bird! She flys! Minor miscommunication between me and the manual! Epic quote!
Glad you enjoyed that line ;)
I have the arrows viper, and it’s very clean assembly and reliable.
It’s the jet that gave me confidence going bigger EDF.
It’s a very kind jet if you have someone to launch it for you. Since it’s tricky to launch if you use 2200mah batteries (6 minutes flight time which is awesome for a jet).
Cannot wait for more arrows planes reviews, but for me it’s one of the best value for money brands.
I hope that one day we will see Motionrc products on this channel.
Some of the Flightline warbirds and Freewing EDF jets they sell at Motion look awesome.
I need to plop a 2200mAh 4S in this bad boy and get on with it, don't I?!?!? I bet she'll SCREEEEEEM
@@BrianPhillipsRC Looool. I was talking about 3s 2200mah. :) 2200mah 4s could be too heavy but flies nice and easy with 4s 1600mah.
Love it !!! Sooo glad to see you reviewing Arrows RC in your product mix. 👍🏻😎
You and me both!
Arrows are making great planes. Just my opinion. Especially for their selling price. A great company to stay in the air with.
So far, we've been super impressed!
Love watching you fly all those aircraft. Thx for posting all the informative videos.
We're very glad you're here with us Gregory!
I love how you do your videos with flight, build & setup!!! Some other R/C channels would rather just do mostly unboxings because they're too lazy to get out to the field. Unboxings are sooo boring. Thanks Brian!
Thanks William! I agree that unboxings are boring, even ours ;) But so many people want to see, so we try to do it for everyone who's sizing up the model they MIGHT want to buy ;)
I've owned a few Arrows planes. Good quality at a great price, even now for the most part, after the ridiculous price hikes. The cell count can get a little fudged with smaller sized batteries. Easy to pick up the wrong one and not realize it.
BAE looks like a nice flying plane. Good stuff Brian and camera crew. AirHammer out!!
We've been super impressed!
Really cool plane I like watching your videos because you explain everything that comes with the plane and more. It's really nice you do that. I have learned a lot from you my friend. Thank you
Glad we're able to help you out Carlos!!!! Thanks for being here with us!
That’s good idea. Ailerons for rudder for hand launch. Then switch when you get in the air. 👍
It will save your plane ;)
Nice plane Brian... Love the belly lander for the snowy days to come
Yeah, and since it simple, I can just rinse it off in the sink!!!
Ive built mine tonight and plan to maiden tomorrow. Wish me luck! Your video is what led me to the aircraft and the content is much appreciated. A big thanks to you and Megan. I unfortunately couldn't use the link due to shipping prices and it turns out my local model shop had one. The ones available in the UK don't appear to have the vector stabiliser so I banged a dumb OrangeRX 6ch receiver in that I had lying around, bound to my Radiomaster. Ive gone for the larger end of the battery range which is 2200mAh 3s instead of 1300mAh and it balances OK. Interesting titbit for you....the ESC is rated for 4s after researching the spare parts but I'm not sure if the motor can handle 16.8v. I'm not risking it for a while but might try a 4s someday. Ill let you know if it works.
I flew mine on 4S and it was very nice!!!
GIVE HER HELL WHEN YOU GO TO LAUNCH -100% throttle...don't screw around, or you will end up broke in half!!!!!!!!!!!! (I did that too, and we flew it around ripped in half - it was a great little video, but not sure if we'll share it or not)
An update on the maiden. I treated myself to 4 batteries and I had 4 successful flights. Its a stunning flyer. Fast, aerobatic and patriotic. Being British it actually attracted a small crowd at my field. It was like a minature version of an airshow here in the UK. Quite a few inquisitive people came over and asked lots of questions about it when I had finished. When I do a maiden I take a second aircraft just incase, and I took the UMX A-10 V2 which I bought after your review too. I had a great time and once again, thank you.
I haven't flown mine yet I think I was waiting for your review all this time.😁
Thanks for the tips my flying experience
just got a whole lot better.
I love it on 4S now ;)
Ya gotta give Brian credit! He's an awesome pilot but an even better repairer... I almost didn't even notice the two chunks taken out of the left wing! lol... Spill the beans Brian, did that Eagle tree get ya again?? PS. Just bustin ya chops buddy... Love your videos! D-Rail
LOL - No it was the gutter ;) Although...we did a "Second Thoughts" on this plane, and may have flown it around with half the plane ripped off ;) You'll have to wait and see.
She does great on 4S 2200mAh 30C Gen1 Smart lipo, btw...Even if it's hanging out the front of the plane ;)
Brian I am SO glad I found you! Endless information. Fantastic videos. You could go a little slower setting up the transmitter for us new guys. But maybe that is just me, GREAT JOB!!
Glad you're here with us! We always struggle with radio setup speed as people have a (strong) opinion both ways. ;) You'll start to get the hang of it in no time, but until then, you can always pause or slow down the playback speed using the little gear icon.
I find the easiest way to launch these is using the throttle cut. Switch on throttle cut, push stick to full throttle, right hand on stick, model in left hand, flick off throttle cut with right hand, launch with left under arm, have full control of elevator and ailerons from launch this way.
good idea!
Love the Starsky and Hutch white stripe
Thanks
This thing moves really well!
I sure love it!
Very swift flying as opposed to the widespan T33 which was your last video I watched. Really have to be on your toes and thinking way ahead.
yes!
Props to the camera crew. Oh yeah you're not bad either Brian.
LOL - Thanks John ;) Megan is gooooood!
Excellent tight quarters flying sir. Im glad I got one of these since I got a small flying box to deal with, most edfs need space. Btw give my regards to CC its good to always follow her "sage advise"😊.
Thanks, and will do!
the arrows models seem pretty good, but here in UK we dont seem to get the gyro with them, by the way praise to your good lady on camera, she does a great job
I hear this often about the Vector not always being included...strange how this happens
Thanks, I'll pass along the compliments to the Camera Crew ;)
OMG!!! Hilarious!! CC: "You talk enough....it'll be more than 5 minutes". BP: "Thank you". CC: "You're welcome". LOL!! Love it!! ;)
Moments like this, caught on camera will be priceless in 50 years ;)
These smaller jets look fun and convenient, I haven't owned any edf smaller than 4 or 6 s.
The 3S EDF Jets are usually pretty lame, but this and some of the recent 3S EDF Jet's have been pretty good!
A lot of people are succesfully flying these on 4s out of the box. They draw around 37A static on 4s at full throtyle, so probably still above 30A in unloaded free flight so I'd be playing it safe and sticking a 40A in there instead.
Woooo you’re starting to get arrows planes! You’ll love the marlin whenever you get it;)
I want to get that one reviewed too soon!!!
@@BrianPhillipsRC Bigfoot ia Amazing as well.
Just found your channel. Great content!
Welcome aboard! Thanks! so much more where that came from ;)
needed some red white and blue smoke out the the back!
LOL - That would be sweet!
4s peps the arrows 50mm way up. awesome little planes love mine.
Did you upgrade the esc or reduce the throttle rates to fly on 4S, or just kept it stock..?? Thanks
I can't wait to do it!
I can’t keep up!
Thanks for you informative content.
So much coming soon!
I just tried to fly this but every time it pretty much just dropped out of the sky, not a lovely take off like yours. The last attempt it looked like it was taking flight but cut in half hitting a tall bush!
Brian, I had the arrows viper, and I always flew it on 4s. It was awesome, sadly a storage shed fire destroyed over 100 planes last week. But I would definitely fly this on 4s
We did it this weekend too, and it was amazing ;)
So sorry to hear you lost so many planes!!!
Hey Brian,
What size 4s would you recommend and what sort of flight times are you getting?
@@crofty_flyer I used a 1300mah, and would get five minutes out of it.
No touch and goes. So powerful defeats the wind. I'd paint the bottom a different color.
Sorry, not flying from Geotextile - I think Ryan did this, didn't he???
Just like always great video. ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
Thanks William? I'm not sure what you mean, but I see 5 stars ;)
It works on a 2200 3s really well - in the UK we do not get the Vector unit - it does not need one.. it glides really well - also its strange but we have dialled down the aileron movements...not increase them....The Arrows T33 is another awesome jet that they do...
Hello FT been watching your flights interesting "grass bounce launches"😉. Got this nice model 2 weeks ago but been surveying YT videos observing its quirks and characteristics before I maiden mine. Overall Im very happy with choice. Cheers 😊
It did look like the 2200mah battery made it hard for the Hawk to get on step and contributed to the grass bounce take offs. I can imagine flying it at the upper battery size/weight limits made the aileron roll much more sensitive than at lighter/smaller battery weights. Any thoughts would be appreciated.
That's a shame! I love the way the Vector works, but I just prefer to have a stabilizer, even if it's not needed.
nice jet Brian
Sure is!
does this come with the transmitter?
Not this plane. You have to provide your own Transmitter, Receiver, and Battery of your choice.
Hey I'm Lucky #13, Nice Ground Collision At The End! 🤣 You Could Cut Up Some Heavier Clear Plastic Donut Trays & Glue On For Bottom Skid Plates!? 🤔
You have a lot of donut trays ;) LOL
Specifications say Required Battery:11.1V 1300MAH 30C, so why did they send a 2S battery? Just to see you crash? Do you think that wrapping the wires around the receiver could have any negative affect on the antenna?
LOL - I think it was an honest mistake, and I missed it too!
Hi Brian, with self level on do you get slight up elevator when full throttle.
Mine does not sure if this is normal?
Elevator doesn’t move on the other two modes.
Cheers 👍🏻
I have ordinary control when in Auto-Leveling, but there will be LIMITS to bank and pitch angles, to prevent overturning the plane. I wonder if you've got something goofed up on your vector???
OR, are you using AS3X and SAFE? ....what Rx, (should have asked that first, sorry!)
Nice indeed
Blast, and a beauty!!!
I'm looking to move up from my UMX citation, what would you recommend as a second edf? I am limited to space as there are not any flying fields near me.Thanks Brian!
If you're limited with space, these 50mm EDF's from Arrows might be the ticket for you!
BAE Hawk bit.ly/3pSmp4v + AR410 bit.ly/3GnSY0w
T-33 bit.ly/3DuVOPp + AR410 bit.ly/3GnSY0w
Viper bit.ly/3uinxlD + AR630 bit.ly/3rkGZMI
Lovely plane good work =)
Thanks!
@@BrianPhillipsRC Welcome
I love T-45s, I need one! Awesome flight! Have you flown the Arrows F-15? I just did a unboxing video on mine and build video tomorrow. Can’t wait to fly it this weekend.
We have it on our VERY short list (the F15) and I want it so bad!!!
@@BrianPhillipsRC I wanted it for a while and just picked one up. Very nice build, my only complaint well two! The RX mounting is kinda dumb and had to make 6 6in Extensions and remove the battery tray and run the RX up front and the other is plastic gear servos, definitely should be metal! But all in all great plane so far.
Hi, are there and cases you could recommend to transport this plane, as once it’s together you can’t use the original packaging. Thank you !
Pretty dang cool I just don't know why they wouldn't go ahead and add a rudder I wouldn't think it would cost that much more This would be a good plane to do a video on how to add a rudder It looks like it fly's pretty dang good well with a 3S battery that is 😁
Nice review guys 🔥👍✌️
edf jets dont really need a rudder, they cause more problems than they solve.
Sno - I'd have to disagree - I LOVE rudder ;) I don't think they add problems, but they DO add some cost and some complexity. That being said, the ability to slip, and speed rolls is very nice.
That being said, between Rudder and Flaps, I'd want flaps ;)
Very cool little jet, nice review. Seems like it would be much easier to use a 6 channel receiver and assign the gyro to the flaps or retract switch.....
I seldom fly with a gyro, after watching this video I'm going to purchase this, through your link and probably try the gyro on a 6 channel receiver. I got totally confused watching you program the 4 channel receiver. I don't think my DX7 has the program capabilities that the NX Series has.
It's all about trying to help folks save a few bucks, but like I may have said, the 6CH would make it a lot simpler. This would also add the ability to make an inboard flap mod too ;)
Hey Brian love your videos and awesome flying skills. Could you tell me what the vector connections are please? UK model has no vector so I bought separately but no instructions on how to connect the unmarked pins to the servo wires/throttle ! Thanks in advance
I can't tell you beyond what you see in the video.
Here's another trick. Hook up the Rx as usual, then hook up ANY cable...and see what control CHANGES when you wiggle the plane. When you do this, you only have two control axis to figure out...and the Rudder will be unused. When you're out of control channels, you can assume the last would be the Control for Stab/Off/Auto-leveling.
Hi brian love watch ur vids full of great information ive just recently bought a bae hawk 50mm and on the maiden flight went well for about 30 seconds and then lost full throttle was only getting about 20% seems to be the lvc cutting in possibly not sure i was running on a brand new 3s 2200mah overlander fully charged got the plane down ok put another fully charged battery in and same thing again after 25/30 seconds throttle cuts way back would you have any ideas wot could be causing this problem was wondering could it be my receiver at fault my radio great wouldnt be the newest ive had it a long time though ive never had any trouble from it its a hitce optic 5 transmitter with a minima 6t receiver any help would be very much appreciated
Afternoon Brian from here in the UK, Was watching you on one of your videos soldering LED's onto a model, what my question is , the thin wire that you were using look's the same as used in the UMX Timber,does this wire have a reference and is it a copper wire with a coating on it to stop shorting out. I am looking for some to wire up lights on another model. Hope you can understand what I am try to explain to you. Thanks for all the work that you and the Mrs put into your video's, keep it up and Stay safe.
That wire is has a varnish coating over it, so even though it looks like it'll short out, it is actually coated pretty good! You can cut the wire easy, but you can also cut it by accident too ;)
Here's some examples of where to get some....
amzn.to/3oS6dPQ - VERY SMALL!
What is the flight stabilizing did you mention? Can't find the vector system
Vector is included in the plane, it's like a PNP+
Any idea if this will ever be for sale again? Backorder city on this one. Looks like a fun edf
Everything they were selling, SHOULD be back at some point, but Hobbyzone was having trouble getting containers over, last we heard, but I can't say for sure. GREAT PLANE, if it doesn't come back, it'd be a shame
Should I get this or the pioneer as a first plane, idk what I want in a plane other than it can fly
I also have the money for both
DEFINITELY the Pioneer. don't skip steps, or you'll buy them both anyway, with more frustration involved. You will LOVE flying whatever you get, and when you graduate from it, you'll so much more enjoy your experience.
Below are my short list of beginner planes... all of them would be good, but the Pioneer would be perfect if you like it.
Description | Purchase | Videos
Habu STS 70mm RTF - bit.ly/38Kilv1 - th-cam.com/play/PLXTH0DstRDc5fYbIobNAtMUz2EoT7FGLl.html
Apprentice 1.5m RTF bit.ly/2OIjVHd - th-cam.com/play/PLXTH0DstRDc4LA2ldEUZQMVWkJpCslxRc.html
Carbon Cub S2 1.3m RTF bit.ly/3bS2r3O - th-cam.com/play/PLXTH0DstRDc4Y9gQ5S22B_3SXmtqylcmM.html
T-28 Trojan 1.1m bit.ly/3eOh9Lk - th-cam.com/play/PLXTH0DstRDc6-_gHuXM6a1Nf_2nRxrmlc.html
Apprentice 1.2m RTF bit.ly/2OIjVHd - th-cam.com/play/PLXTH0DstRDc43Qw4KNOOfzt14n6ZBo3LS.html
Sport Cub S2 UMX bit.ly/3cDYUW1 - th-cam.com/play/PLXTH0DstRDc5gY8qX_x8kAJq3glGMXjDy.html
AeroScout 1.1m - bit.ly/30MNn1c - th-cam.com/video/vfZZQXx7jU4/w-d-xo.html
Bigfoot 1.3m RTF - bit.ly/30mYdOq - th-cam.com/play/PLXTH0DstRDc7elVLLXihkLRs_J4QQ0Hm-.html
Pioneer 620mm RTF - bit.ly/2YotgbY - th-cam.com/play/PLXTH0DstRDc5DZarP-qgPO3IEliNvnPuP.html
@@BrianPhillipsRC I’m gonna get the pioneer from your link👍🏼
what will be better first edf: arrow hawk or the arrow t33?
T33 even though I like the looks of the Hawk better.
Hi Brian love the video, what about providing some links so that UK purchasers can benefit from the Vector stabilization? At present we are forced to buy aftermarket stabilization eg Lemon or Spektrum which adds considerably to the cost £30-£80, therefore it's worth paying shipping from USA to UK.
I know....we have the same issue, only with REFLEX on FMS - gotta be a branding deal.
If you can't get the Vector...get the AR630 - this would be PERFECT for this little firecracker ;)
AR630 bit.ly/3lh5iqD - AS3X & SAFE with limited telemetry + INTERNAL Antenna
AR631 bit.ly/3pYNC3c - AS3X & SAFE with limited telemetry + EXTERNAL Antenna
....slightly more involved setup, but you'd get benefit of flapperons, if you wish, and would be CLEAN ;)
Thanks Kevin!
Will you make a review on the arrows T33 50 mm edf they seem very similar but I was wondering how it will fly compared to the hawk.
It's on the way NOW ;)
@@BrianPhillipsRC awesome I can't wait to see it ..
I was thinking of buying the 80mm but the price 🤔. That 50mm flys great Brian..
80mm is quite a bit more plane thought ;)
hi four channel receiver is work for build in auto level system thanks
4 channel works, yes ;)
thank good job
Thanks - Have you seen where I flew it without the front half of the plane??? It's pretty fun ;)
would you recommend this plane to get as a first edf?
You could! These little 50mm EDF's are a great first time, but I have to admit, I usually suggest the Habu, if someone is asking. I think the 50mm Habu is a perfect beginner offering, plus you'll get wheels up and wheels down experience on a cheap to battery plane. This BAE Hawk will be fun, but it doesn't even have a rudder, and no wheels up wheels down to help you learn the "ways of EDF" ;)
Just my 2 Cents...
bprc.me/Arrows_BAE_Hawk
VS
bprc.me/Habu
Hey Brian! What adapter are you using for your battery?
We just use the IC3 with XT60 plugs...works, only a bit tight.
Go 4s 1300~1500 Brian
I want to do it now, but it's dark ;(
We'll give it a try on 4S and share the outcome.
@@BrianPhillipsRC 4s is great I only use 4s 1300 in my 50mm hawk
Hi Brian! I could use some random help. Generally speaking is it acceptable to use a 50c battery in place of a 30 c? My plane says I can use a 3s or a 4s. But I’m confused on on the c rating. I’m under the impression that as long as I don’t go get the 4s then I’m good? If you have a video on it I’ll check it out but I didn’t see one on the guidelines/perimeters so to speak. Regardless, you’re the man!
*Go more than the 4s
YES 50C is okay in a plane that calls for 35C, but a 25C pack in the same plane might lead to a puffed lipo pack, or possibly poor performance, or both, or in a worst case scenario, a fire!
50C is better than 30C, and 30C is better than 20C. The ONLY time you don't want a higher C rating would be in a transmitter pack, where you want to hold down the discharge rate to make the battery last a really long time.
Generally, the higher the C rating, the better the quality. They can cost more, and sometimes are a BIT heavier, but the higher C rating speaks to the batteries ability to discharge quicker...which is a good thing. you want to be able to move the charge from the pack to the plane's ESC ASAP ;)
I dont know why they sent you a 2S battery. All their 50mm EDFs run on 3s, and are being run on 4s by many people. I havent tried it yet because I dont have a 4S 1500.
Despite this being a beginner edf, lots of advanced pilots like them just because they are stress free fun.
It was a total over-sight on their part, and on mine - oh well, stuff happens, but if she would have flown on 2S how crazy would that have been!!!?!? ;)
Awesome Brian, I only had to wait one extra video before you did the Hawk. Getting this one for sure as I’m a Brit, I grew up watching the Red Arrows at air shows and events in England. Living in Colorado now and flying at 8750’ above sea level. In your opinion did you think the Hawk had a powerful or weak 3S power system..?? Thinking I could run this on 4S (1300-1800mah) with a 75/80% throttle rate to protect the stock 30 amp esc. Hoping Arrows have sent you the twin 64mm F-15 already..!!
Howie, I'm not sure if it would handle 4S, but I can say where we are, the air is much less thin than where you are.
I want to try, but don't want to kill it ;)
FAR, and I mean REALLY FAR for me to ever give you suggestions, but since the ArrowsRC Viper came out I’ve been flying that 50mm on 1800, 3s, 70c. Since I had a bunch, I maidened and have continued to fly the T-33 and Bae Hawk on the same 1800 3s batteries. (4 minute flight times on all three EDF’s. I’ve flown the baby Viper on 4s 1300’s. Not a lot of difference in performance with less flight time)
I flew her on 2200mAh 4S 30C Smart G1 pack and it was GLORIOUS ;)
My friend which cheap receivers I can use with my NX 8 transmitter
I have the link in the video description. We used the 4CH Rx which was enough to get it done.
Is this a good beginner
I would not recommend it as a beginner.
Get the 1.3m Bigfoot. WAYYYY better beginner!!! Bigfoot bit.ly/30mYdOq
Or the Pioneer bit.ly/2YotgbY . which review is coming in a few days ;)
The RAF fly this plane as their air demo team "The Red Arrows". They're an outstanding demo team...IMO better than our US teams!
I'd like to see it in person some day!
Will this fly in a big park?
SURE.
So not reading the manual is a sin now.
I wondered why the Spektrum SMART batteries were in short supply, you have them look at your stash in and around the wicker basket by the chargers!!!!.
LOL - Evidently we were supposed to be READING those things!??!?!
damn i ohready have viper if i dont have i buy this 1 and try it out see how it work
Viper is very good too!
👍
Thanks
looks like the old robbe molds to me v2 ?
It's a great plane!
No doubt . i will get one along with the t33 and install removable gear
China glue!!! Lmao
CH-EYE-NGUHHHHHH glue - yes
Shame they didn’t paint the white outlined arrow on the belly.
TRUE!
This or the EFlite eagle.. hmm
Tough call. I feel like the F-15 is BNF, so almost apples to oranges here ???
@@BrianPhillipsRC very good asnwer
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Please don’t encourage people to run it stock on 4s it exceeds 38amps on 4s at full throttle,well above the stock 30amp esc it comes with it will work but your asking for trouble
I'm not encouraging anyone else to do it, but rather showing it can be done.
Wtf is 'China glue?'
It's contact cement that's used in China a lot. It's a Mucilage glue.
Hi Brian and Megan
Sorry, this is another very very long one so please leave me to last do all the rest first and then come back to me when you have the time to do so.
I have given you another thumbs down NO JUST JOKING I have given you a very BIG THUMBS UP.
Now that I have got off of my very high horse I hope it is water under the bridge between us, what you didn’t know was somebody in a car park had driven into my car and just drove off causing a fair amount of damage and my day seemed to go from worst to worst and the following day as well when got how much it was going to cost me so I am very sorry that I went OTT with you and Megan you took the brunt of it.
I know that in the past that I said that I was not interested in EDF jets and after thinking about it the one EDF jet which I wanted in my collection is the red arrows hawk.
I thought you might be doing the red arrows hawk from what you had said in one of the comments between us.
I was hoping it was going to be the FMS one BUT I saying that now you have sold me on this one at the price I don’t think you can beat it, Just one question would a 3S 2200mA battery fit in it and if so do you think it might be too heavy for the plane or not ?.
It sounds that sometime in the next few years you might do this full time so I think you better think about building a fully kitted out workshop and warehouse to house the planes because you must be getting pretty close to kicking the kids out of their bedrooms making them sleep in the living room so that you can store more planes in their bedrooms even now (Just joking about the kids).
If you did do it full time then even maybe you could have your own brand how about calling it Megan Planes sounds better than Brian Planes don’t you think with added value that it’s not far away from Mega Planes.
Seriously think what you could do for the hobby if you did it full time the sky’s your limit.
I don’t want to blow your trumpet BUT I have not found another TH-cam channel like yours not only do fly the planes (Sometimes a bit crazy) but while you fly them you let us know your thoughts and what adjustments you need to make them fly better, Then when you do the assembly which is, of course, is the first thing to do not only do you highlight any problems which you in counter but also any cock-ups which you make on the way so that we won’t (All except for one) and then the transmitter/receiver set-up, So what I am trying to say is that you do a complete package which I can not find anyone on TH-cam doing the same.
I always keep forgetting to say that I love your cats, I have an RSPCA rescue cat he must have been very badly treated before I had him, I think he won’t trust any human 100% including me I have had him for just over 3 years now and I would say he trusts me about 95% now but I wouldn’t be without him now.
Steve (NOT STEVEN).
PS Brian don’t forget Megan is always right mate and don’t you forget that !!!.
Thanks Steve! Sorry to hear you had to deal with that car accident! So annoying!!! I just helped my brother fix his truck from being side swiped in a gas station by and uninsured motorist.
As for kicking the kids out of their rooms, we have a few more steps before that happens - LOL
As for full time work here on TH-cam - Can't wait to make it a reality, but lots of growth needed to earn the security we'll need before I can take the plunge ;)
As for being complete in our coverage, from Unboxing to flying, to adjustments and even the crashes and mix up's along the way, I thought people, including future me looking back, could get some insight from watching HOW we arrive at certain conclusions...and not just watching me follow through the process uninterrupted, and in perfect order, like that of a Spektrum video. I prefer dragging everyone through the learning process, and I realize this is probably lost on much of even our loyal audience, but when you're NEW, it's gotta be somewhat helpful. We're very glad you are getting good from our effort! Thanks for sharing the reassurances that things are cool between us. I know it seems a bit strange, but even though we have quite a lot of people watching and supporting us, I hate to lose someone over such a silly misunderstanding...better we'd part ways over a more meaningful disagreement ;) LOL!
We're glad you're here with us Steve (not Steven - I gather you must have wanted Steve, but TH-cam had given it away prior to your account???)
As for 2200mAh. I don't know if it will work out. I'd FAR prefer that size...so much more popular.