Josh Pate On Billy Napier's Future At Florida (Late Kick Cut)
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- Florida has had a rocky first two seasons under Billy Napier, and with a pivotal 2024 approaching Josh Pate responded to a question about Napier's job security on Late Kick Live Ep 490. Will the Gators be able to overcome a treacherous schedule this fall? Let us know what you think in the comments below and be sure to SUBSCRIBE to the channel and CLICK THE BELL for notifications as we bring you multiple live shows per week!
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As a missouri fan, they damn near beat us in 2023 at our home field. We were ranked #9 in the country that night. This is the same Missouri team that almost beat Georgia at their home stadium. They came closer to beating us than Ohio state, Tennessee, Kentucky ,South Carolina and Arkansas did and made us work harder than the vast majority of teams we played this year. Florida is not a team I would underestimate.
Florida fan here. We also lost bc of coaching decisions unfortunately. We have some really good talent, but Napier hasn't shown to be a very good GameDay coach.
Bc Florida has talent and could put it together sometimes but the coaching isn’t good enough and there are too many critical errors that lead to losses, Utah, FSU, Arkansas, and Mizzou games are prime examples
At least your coach got a OC and delegated game day duties to actually qualified coaches , Billy still needs to have fun on game day calling reverse passes
You’re a very smart guy I can tell 🤝
Bowl game he’s safe as a Florida fan
Got a good QB room with Mertz and Lagway he's brought in some good talent all over let's see what he does with it in his last year most likely. So far I've been disappointed specifically by the in game coaching decisions. If not for the dumb decisions against FSU, 4th and 20 against Mizzou, missed kick against Arkansas things could have been different last year.
I like the adjustments he made this offseason, don’t know why people acting like he just sitting on his hands. We’ll see if it enough to keep his job, but he has the talent to win 7-8 games
On a normal year I’d agree. That schedule is brutal though.
Florida is a team that every single college football fan underestimates they nearly beat the #9. Missouri Tigers, had a Dominant win over Tennessee at home, and a Thriller with South Carolina Billy Napier is going to build this program into a powerhouse
Great job brothe....Oh, and loved the close out but won't hold my breath on it👍🏽
Gators diehard here… not the biggest billy guy but I’m so tired of these coaches not getting 3 seasons in before we wanna fire them. Things take time. And we have a brutal schedule this season. Sad that he may win 7 games and still lose his job
7 wins and a bowl he keeps the job and if he can recruit a top class he will be the hottest coach in 25 due to Lagway
@@mohassan43 Dreaming! He will be fired before the season ends and they will pursue Dan Lanning from Oregon. Gators need to stop wasting time with this guy.
I think we hired Napier at exactly at the wrong time, right at the dawn of transfer portal madness and NIL. I don't think those are his strengths as a coach, he thrives at building relationships, which was a very important skill in recruiting just 5 years ago, but NIL has made that aspect of coaching so much less important. Also, his schemes seem to rely on having superior trench players, which Dan Mullen left severely depleted when he left
Yes good points but Napier isn’t a SEC caliber coach. There is no right time to hire Napier.
@@FrenchUncleLou
🤔 why ?
I think he just needs to have the right staff around him especially his coordinators. The players love him and he recruits at a high level.
His defensive coordinator had no business being hired at Florida and Billy needs a offensive coordinator.
My criticism would be not hiring the right coaches to get the job done.
I would love to hear your criticism !
@@904Hurricane Any coach can succeed with the right staff, however they need to hire that staff. Napier is too loyal to his underperforming buddies (and likely too rigid with doing things his way aka his "process") to ever hire that type of staff.
Spot on with the analysis.. new coach me in 24.
Lane Train 🚂
Have ya seen what Spurrier has said recently about Napier? Not a good look if you ask me
Imagine a so called “Gator fan” decides to trust Spurrier because he’s riding the Napier hate-train. Y’all need 2 go touch grass fr🙄🙄🙄
I think Billy needs two things 1) Bring a disciplined team which puts forth effort every game. For some time now dating back to the Mullen era Florida has been a less than sharp, heavily penalized team which constantly shoots themselves in the foot (look at the the situation last year with two players wearing the same #) 2) DJ Lagway has to show something. If he plays well Billy can point to the future with some degree of hope-maybe sell DJ as the second coming of Tim Tebow lol. I'm not going to pick a # of wins but if the two points I made above come to pass Napier keeps his job.
Fl has always been heavily penalized even back to spurrier
Not everyone has the charisma to coach at fl and even though I believe he's smart and capable enough on a football IQ sense he has the personality of a 2x4 and that only works if you win which he hasn't
From the sounds of their recent spring practices, they’re getting a lot more experienced and aggressive. They cannot be soft like they were on defense last year. Need to see them having the urge to wanna break ribs, legs, etc. Lol, but no dumb cheep shots that’s going to be a costly penalty like against FSU with that clearly late hit. I get it, you want to hurt him and kick him out of the game, but it will 100% be costly if it’s towards the end of the game.
I agree with Josh's analogy. Billy just couldn't get any traction coming out of the gate. My way of saying it is that there is no coach/team synergy. At another college, things might have fallen into place to produce a lot more wins.
So maybe Napier is a better coach than we've seen. I hope he gets another chance...Somewhere Else. All we can know for sure is that right now, he is the wrong coach, in the wrong school, at the wrong time.
billy definitely flubbed his s&c coach and now are playing catch up. probably his biggest mistake besides not hiring an OC.
Yep, brought his buddy over from ULL and now had to demote him out of S&C to some other position.
@@Joey_Freshwater1Literally do not see anything wrong with that if it’s actually going to be beneficial for himself and the entire staff. Stop jumping into conclusions that they’re going to be dogwater off the spot, my goodness.
Don’t forget about Armstrong as DC. How many Gators fans would rather see Grantham back on the sideline instead of the crap show Goonie Boy is putting together.
Being a Texas fan has shown me that if a coach doesn't get the staff right when he comes in he's not going to succeed
And Napier keeps hiring inexperienced buddies. Refuses to fire them too. He’s 🧑🍳
@@FrenchUncleLou buddies? LOL.
I agree with that as a mizzou fan you need to able to pick good coordinators. Making the right hire is key.
@@FrenchUncleLouIn what way is Ron Roberts, Gerald Chatman, and Will Harris considered “inexperienced”? Go on, I’ll wait. Oh, wait…THEY AREN’T INEXPERIENCED.
@@damm41They are doing just fine in the hiring process and the players approve of it. Calm down.
The open week prior to Florida v Georgia looms large especially if Florida has 4 wins upon completion of the Kentucky game.....
They’ll be fine, calm down.
@TylerBluTheConqueror777 Okay buddy 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Long live Billy. The coach UF deserves. Go DAWGS!!
Insightful
@@tooldread1right back at ya
Just wait and see. Go Gators.
Let the low IQ haters hate. They ain’t ready 4 what they’re cooking behind the scenes.
I like Napier to be honest.
With his schedule for 2024 if he goes better than .500 he's safe. If he is at .500 or worse it's bye bye. 7-5 or better keeps his job.
:57 is Napier taking a leak? if so, it's quite symbolic given the background...
I'd be THRILLED with 7 wins with possibly the toughest schedule ever. Go Gators.
7 wins is totally fine. Oregon had Taggart and we finished 7-5. We were fine, BUT it was a very easy schedule. Still, they weren’t looking to get rid of him.
Head coaches are allowed gimmes on changing position coaches and coordinators. Napier is all out of gimmes.
All fair comments, great takes. 6 wins flies as long as you win out Florida (Miami, UCF, FS) and beat either LSU or Ole Miss. that means winning 2 games in the back half of the season.
Double digit wins are pretty much the only thing that’ll save him, most likely. Scott Stricklin has to go, though, no matter what.
Miami fan here and I'm already nervous about week 1 in the Swamp,,,, Cristobal has underperformed just like Napier so Coaching is equally on the hot 🥵 Seat ,,,, TheU is getting Alot of hype and has Alot of talent but Cristobal hasn't showed me that he can Win Big games like Week 1 v UF in Gville in 2024 ,,,,UF beat Tennessee last year so until TheU can prove themselves I think UF should be favored in week 1 at home ,,,
I honestly believe the gators can be competent this season. The oline will be better. The defense w the addition of Ron Roberts will be better. A few positions last season and they are an 8 win team. He has to play call better or not. And game manage better, situationally.
Florida’s roster is on par with most sec rosters next year
If Billy can revamp the OL and improve the defense. Florida will win 8-10 games this season. If not. Same results as last year.
Lmfao
🤡
Pipe dream.
I’m genuinely confused at why anyone would believe that Napier is a good coach. He was GIFTED an exceptional roster right out of the gate. He wasted AR15, refused to adjust his strategies and got worse as time went along. Now, we’re losing recruits left and right because it’s clear that UF is not under the right leadership. Get him out.
he was not gifted an exceptional roster??? he had a very raw high ceiling QB in AR who was wildly inconsistent and a 6 year ventrell miller. who else on that team was good that wasnt a napier guy? dan mullen left the cupboard as empty as you could at UF
Also AR did not want to risk injury so he played more conservative than the super human freak he was the year before. Mullen was unwilling to bench Emory in order to groom AR.
@@rickyrougs The ONLY Napier guys to have a true impact have been Montrell Johnson, Ricky Pearsall and O’Cyrus Torrence. Of the roster that was in place when Napier took the job in 2023, 10 players were either drafted or signed to NFL rosters as UDFAs. That number is good for 4th-most in the SEC (behind Alabama, LSU and UGA). Only 1 of those 10 players (Torrence) was a Napier guy.
You might want to do your homework before you start talking.
@@youwontlikethistakeII don’t think you know what you’re talking about. A lot of those guys that got drafted had high ceilings. They haven’t proven much in the NFL yet bc they are young. Napier has brought in talent that works for him and on field do well. They might not be first rounders but they are building blocks. You can’t prove otherwise because you need at least 2 full years in college and the NFL to be able to tell the real talent output. You can’t go off of draft statistics alone.’ LSU has had so many NFL caliber players go through the program and have maybe 4 nattys. One in the modern era of football.
@@youwontlikethistakeI went to a few games and saw AR screaming in pain on the sidelines and handful of times couldn’t get off the field right away. He was hurt over half that season so I can’t blame Napier not running him as much but I remember 3 of those losses Florida scored 35+… that ain’t on AR or Napier’s offense.
Gotta give him a full year with Lagway at the helm, if you fire him this year all these good recruits are gone , and we’re back to ground zero with a different coach scrounging around to replace all the good talent that walked out the door.. at some point the coaching carousel has to stop.. if we only go .500 next year with DJ starting ,,, then I’m behind Napier having to go.. but NOT NOW
Napier is doing it @ about the pace he said it takes. To start the program over from scratch. Those result's are ahead of the onfield result's. That's going to be 25 and on.
But the recruiting is there , because he has gotten and learned a lot, about vetting premo player's. Who is and who's not. We saw that last year. But more good than bad.. some of them are very good coming in. Defence shouldn't wear down so bad this year. Offence has to get better.
O Line .
Period.
Special teams would be nice.
Tbh I just wanna see a team this year that doesn’t punish themselves I think the potential is there but the amount of times we’ve lost games because of penalties/stupid turnovers is frustrating
A, the first 7 games are winnable for them. That could create momentum for an upset for the tail end of the season.
Prediction Gators make the playoffs then wins first round, loses second round
Go NOLES The Climb Trust Coach Norvell,the Kings of Florida FSU🔥🏈🏆
Florida will have a better record than USC; will beat Miami to open the reason and beat Florida State to close out the regular season and get to a bowl game bringing his overall record at Gainesville to better than .500 - the team is buying in and the guys have the talent and his system is working; you going to be a lot cleaner play on the field this season
As a Gator fan we will be lucky to win 5. Napier’s legacy will be “the worst coach in Florida history”
War eagle 🦅 Auburn is the future of the sec besides Georgia and lsu
Id be shocked if he is here and Stricklin at the end of the year...let's just say i have 2 family members who pay alot to UF so they know alot....this season he can't not bowl again or they're both gone.
Billy is too cute for his own good... there's no reason Florida football shouldnt have bounced back already except his leadership. Think tennessee wasnt worse after Pruitt? Oregon after mario et al? Its obvious from players leaving, they dont like him as a leader there. As a UT fan i love it. And am terrified they get someone next who can execute a strategy. Bc in the age of NIL and xfers, gators should be destroying everyone else
Florida failed to adapt during two paradigm shifts in college football: Nick Saban's rise at Alabama and NIL. Other programs changed with the times while they remained largely complacent in recruiting, facilities etc.
I'd love to hear you with Billy on the record about this
Josh, to this day he has fired 0 guys who he worked with at ULL. Sure, some fans speak out of both sides of the mouth and say he developed coaches who left for lower NFL jobs while saying he fired those people. You either made them very attractive or fired. Can’t do both. However, any coach who wasn’t a ULL guy he boots. He’s all in this year.
He tried to fire some guys but the UAA didn’t want to pay the buy out, so those guys got “demoted”
We talking about the one S&C?
Because I heard from November to January 31 the OL coaches were gone bc not wanting to pay buyout so it was just waiting for contracts to expire. Then Napier re-signed both. If you have an on field coach he wasn’t allowed to fire, I’d love to know who it was and where that info came from. Much people repeat is narratives people come up with on Twitter
@@edwardbloom6999 yeah the S&C coach had to go, he’s been Billy guy for years but the players even complained. Would’ve like him to fire Sales but it’s possible he wasn’t the issue. Billy even said he had guards playing tackle last season
The OL was definitely an issue and the recruiting has been subpar. He re-signed both OL coaches only for Stapleton to leave. Also, referencing a player who has only played tackle in college at two schools is a weird flex for saying he can’t land top tier tackles.
@@blameitonkj4882the S&C guy did go. The good one he hired to replace Hocke 😂, who is still on the staff!
Regardless the strength of schedule is horrible.
Welcome parents and student athletes, it’s time to play Let’s Make A Deal! Would you trade your funk for this?
Three and out, there it is😂😂
Some people are just a bad fit and the way cfb contracts work nowadays, you're stuck with guys for a couple of years, unless you're nuts like Auburn.
Florida should back up the Brinks Truck to Dan Lanning and call it a day. Move on from this guy.
UF needs to cut their losses with SunBelt Billy and drive a Brinks truck to Oxford and do whatever it takes to get Lane Kiffin on the sidelines for the 2025 season.
Keep doubting Florida haters lmfao, had the most freshman in d1 playing last year for a reason.
Media says Florida has a different swag. So far in spring, we got a lot of new guys, and Billy flipped the roster for the most part..
Sun Belt Billy is completely rudderless as a leader. Spurrier said it right. We’re a completely disorganized mess. He may have the Saban org chart memorized but he’s no leader like Saban
Napier should have never left Louisiana: the money enticed him. He’s a bust at Florida and Napier never did well against the SEC opponents.
We are over him -gator fans
Anything less than 8-4, he's probably out the door
I agree
Bro i want billy to succeed so bad but he just doesn’t win
Billy Napier could be a good coach at a smaller school and then bounce back at another powerhouse he’s a good coach he’s just not the right coach for Florida and he isn’t ready for the SEC
He gone mid season!
I'm not a FL fan, but their schedule this season is ugly. I see 4, maybe 6 wins.
Nope. At least 7-5. They have a lot of positive momentum as of recently.
Spurrier is a self absorbed narcissist. Steve only cares about himself. If he truly cared about what’s best for the Gators he would have built up Napier, instead of throwing him under the bus like he did. The Gators schedule is hard enough without Spurrier throwing gasoline on fire.
Gators are going 4-8 this year. Sunbelt Billy will be fired after another ass whooping in Jacksonville and Lagway will hit the portal. Book it!
Fired before the fsu game , back to square one
Florida still owns you btw
@@Butchshiestytell yourself that after 3 years in a row losing to FSU 😂. Enjoy rebuilding for the next 10 years!
@@Winterfellen check the record
Honestly Billy walked into a rotten situation at a school with championship aspirations. He’s completely flipped the roster and upgraded talent at every position group since he arrived. He botched S&C and adjusted. He evaluates and makes changes; something Mullen refused to do. Recruits quality talent that actually make it to campus and contribute.
No coach would have came in up and running with the roster he took over. If Mullen didn’t leave, 2022 roster has Emory Jones starting at QB with a bunch of players who transferred to smaller schools and didn’t produce.
He’s gotta learn how to coach and we all know that he can’t do that. There’s a big difference when coach and flag football girls. I guess it shows the gators do play like a bunch of girls. They do know how to spit on people. He’s a good coach for spitting.😂😂😂😂😂 he ain’t never gonna be nowhere near on the same level is the Mike Norvell the mad scientist, the best coach in Florida and the country
I’ve never smelled Billy Napier, but I’m starting to think he smells like a loser. Prove me wrong Billy! Go Gators 🐊
Fired after the miami game
What’s your prediction for the score?
Might be fired after the stomp at the swamp week 1..
Hahaha
Definitely not making it past another ass whooping in Jacksonville
He wasn’t really a good coach at ULL, he just out talented the G5 competition. Got exposed at the P5 level.
Billy Napier is proving that you can imitate the Saban model for building a program as much as you want but without a competent guy like Nick Saban to run the program, it’s all useless
It always comes back to someone trying to be Saban. Not every coach is out here trying to be Saban reincarnated. lol
@@FlightlessPilotYep. Billy can emulate him all he wants, but he is more of a Derek Dooley than a Nick Saban.
Id rather an Urban Meyer at Fl, Saban did well at Bama bc its Alabama, easy recruiting, did Saban do well with the dolphins????????????????????????????????????????
napier is not the answer for florida.
period.
but as a tennessee fan, i do enjoy seeing florida struggle.
he shouldnt be fired in 2024 because that schedule should get ANYONE fired (no one outside of nick saban could overcome that brutal gauntlet).
dabo or kiffin are the only credible coaches who could “fix” florida.
Worst coach in FL history so far
😂😂😂😂😂😂
As a Florida State fan I hope he stays another 10 years 😂. That should tell you all that needs to be known. Dog water.
Well he’s a fraud so…
Possibly starts 0-5.
Dude won’t make it to the end of the season
Good Night Napier! This is what happens when clown fan bases think they can do better than 11 wins. Love watching Florida suffer!
He’s not a good head coach and all he is is a recruiter and scouter that’s all he will ever be.
Billy Napier is winning 99 games next season because I'm a heroin addict
Love and respect your honesty.
He’s gone after this year. Florida fans never have and never will be patient with a coach.
What is a fair objective way to measure? Because I don’t think asking for better than losing records is asking too much
No fan base is going to be patient with an 11-14 record especially with how how a lot of those losses happened
He is garbage, no way they get better😂😂😂
I think no matter what happens this year Billy at least gets next year with Lagway as QB1