Things To Check Before Buying A Ford F150 5.4 Triton V8
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After watching numerous videos on the Ford F150 5.4 3V Triton engine I decided to cure the problems before they occur. On mine I replaced all of the spark plugs at 22,000 miles and again at 55,000 miles applying anti size lubricate on all Motorcraft plugs. I also replaced all of the exhaust manifold studs and nuts with stainless steel studs and nuts again applying anti size on the threads to the studs when installing them. I even sprayed anti rust lubricate and a coat of heat resistance paint on the exhaust manifolds. I have a 2005 Ford F150 Lariat 4 door 4 wheel drive truck. I then installed two additional outside filters one for the power steering and one for the automatic transmission. If you look under the truck you will see three filters on it and they are all the same as the original FL820S Motorcraft oil filter. Every second oil change I change all three filters, the oil, transmission, and power steering filters. I am a firm believer on preventative maintenance.
UPDATE: I also removed the original Transmission pan from FORD and replaced ir so I could install the FUMOTO valve which I also have on the oil pan as well. So when I drop the pan on the
transmission I don't have a mess wih the oil splashing all over the place, just open the valve and drain the fluid directly into milk cartons. I wasn't satisfied with the heat resistance paint so I removed both exhaust manifolds and sent them in to JET HOT CERAMIC COATING IMHO money well well spent. The coating on the manifolds will never chip, crack. peel or change color.
People take notes here!!! You take care of your car it'll take care of you
I think I’m in love with you ❤️
Motorcraft plug....meh....NGK iridium is all I use.
well you clearly aren't a firm believer in spelling things correctly
Screen shotted, thanks.
The spark plugs are not an issue once you change them the first time. You just need to put the newer style plugs in there and you will never have a problem when changing them again. They only made that designed for 2 years 2006 and 2007. Even if you areon the original plugs there are things you can do to minimize problems, there are plenty of videos on here explaining it. If you are going to do a change on the original plugs I would definitely recommend getting the extraction tool made 4 those plugs just in case. It will definitely come in handy and save you a lot of money if you have any problems. As far as the aftermarket cats go there are some good ones that don't cost that much. I actually replace mine with high-flow cats when I was doing my exhaust and I didn't have to move anything. I have not had any issues with cam phasers or anything else, it's been a good engine and I've got two hundred thousand on it now. If you don't do the maintenance I suppose that could give you some problems, but then again that would be the case with pretty much anything.
I agree completely with your advice. That being said😁....I had an 01 f150 5.4..one time I let it go 25k miles w/out an oil change and put 240k miles on it before selling it! Only issues it ever had were coil packs and an alternator! Love these trucks and yes I’m ashamed of letting the oil change go so long. When I did change it, I cut the filter open just out of curiosity and the paper inside just crumbled in my fingers! Yikes!!
04 150 Lariat 5.4 Triton 180K miles still running strong! Bought new and very well maintained.
I just got the same one extended cab all WD Whit 115 K motor is very good has some rust paid 5,900 no problems yet looks like the maintenance was done all the time
As a 2007 F150 5.4 triton owner, this man speaks the truth.
My grandpa had a 2003 Ford F-150 with the 5.4 triton. That truck had 386,000 miles when we sold it. He took care of that truck maintained it like a baby never had any problems with it. Honestly I believe most of these videos you make about the ford motors aren’t major problems if you prevent them from happening.
I would agree with that. However these engines, especially the 3v, are very sensitive to a skipped oil change or any negligence. The design of the spark plugs is one of the biggest engineering fails in the last 50 years. Check out the wizards video on the 5.4. Anything goes wrong = new engine.
97-03 were the 2v very good motors these problems mostly start 04 and up when they came out with the 3v
Just get one with a 2v 4.6 and most of those problems you don't have to worry about. If you ever have to change the timing chain tensioner put the upgraded iron one on instead of the plastic one.
I got a 205 F150 purchased new. The PCM went bad, so Ibought a used one for 150 at a junk yard and had Ford dealer install it.. No problem. At 290,000 the original starter failed and I had a new one installed. I have the original trans with no problem, original alternator, no problem, original catalaytic converter, tailpipe and muffler, no problem. Power window motors, no problem. Yes, spark plugs are a pain, and I take in for that removal and replacement. It has by far been the most reliable truck I've ever owned, and it beat out my 1994 F150 with that great inline 6 motor that also was never a problem. I now have 306,000, and it runs great. I will take it in to have the original timing chain, and cam phase tensioners, and phasers replaced, but I am on the original timing chain, and they recommend to change it every 100,000 miles which I never did. But I DO only use fully synthetic motor oil in it. I chose Royal Purple which I buy at O'Reilly's here in Michigan, but even Walmart sells it. It's quiet, and I love it. Very reliable vehicle for me, and I pull a trailer every day. Good luck in your decisions.
Wow everything good but the kitchen sink.... stay bleeding blue brother!
Glad I saw this video. There is a dealer about 3 houses from me and he has a BEAUTIFUL 04 F150 that is fully loaded right down a moon roof. I stopped and he said $3400 for it...I was skeptical and even though there is not a speck of rust anywhere and it runs like a top with 180k, I am clueless when it comes to what to look for. Now I will be going over it with a fine tooth comb and getting that price lowered lol.
I would ask them to change spark plugs. Then buy it.
Did you buy it?
If it says "FORD" on the hood or fenders just walk away and save yourself a ton of grief.
@@glenndickson7627 you have a toyota hilux hyperoverated i tink, no?
@@juanpablof6887, ohh god no! I refuse to drive imports. Just good old DODGE, RAM OR GM or really old FORDS like pre 1980. And the service life I get from them is fantastic.
Have 176000 miles on my 06 ford f-150. had to replace lower ball joints and number one coilpack. Been a great truck
The 5.4 2 valves are one hell of a strong engine.
I've got one in my F-250 and I don't like it. It was a 'barn find' I got from the original owner with just 40k miles. It was misfiring all the time, has and exhaust leak due to a broken head stud, and has an oil leak (looks like from the head gasket). I've replaced plugs only to have it misfire again later that same year with light use. I chucked the motorcraft stuff and put in all MSD Blaster coils and iridium plugs and haven't had an issue since. It's also fairly gutless and just doesn't have the low-end grunt that even the GM 5.3, much less the 6.0 has. I like the pickup, but the 5.4 should never have made it into the Super Duty platform IMO. It gets the job done and the price was right though.
You most likely have a bad head gasket
203,700 on my 05 XLT 5.4. Just did a timing kit and one bad cam phaser. Still runs great and pulls my 18 foot car hauler with ease. Just routine maintenance, use Motorcraft oil and Motorcraft oil filter. Very good truck.
My '99 bought new 5.4 4x4 F150 had the failed right head gasket (45k). After warranty repair it ran 258k with regular scheduled maintenance. Finally went to Ford heaven at 329k (body). Good maintenance long lasting, couldn't complain. Hoping the '17 F150 with the 3.5 EB 4x4 does as well.
Bought a 2000 F-150 XL four years ago. 5.4 Triton with 90,000 miles, paid $5,500, perfect condition. I already bought a 1997 F-150 4.6 nine years ago that I dearly love. I was amazed at how much lighter the 2000 XL is. I put gas shocks on it and it's a nimble little hot rod. It runs great and has made me money.
Sounds about my experience too, 178000 on my 2004.
Fords and Dodges have exhaust manifold issues. That -40 to +40 c temperature swing doesn't help, thankfully we don't use salt on our roads so the rust is a bit slower to develop out west.
Every make and model has their own unique quirks, seems like each generation is built to a lower standard for durability.
You make quality content, thank you. Have a 2003 f150, been chasing a lean bank 1 code for a few weeks. Have replaced all 4 oxygen sens, all 8 plugs with motorcraft plugs, idle air control valve, mass air flow sensors, air filter, fuel filter, pcv valve, and vacuum hose assembly. Light went off and stayed off for a day, just came back. Grrr. 208K miles.
And why didn't you just do a smoke test and read the fuel banks and O2 sensor live data in a OBD2 reader. Don't chase it, diagnose it. Saves you time and money instead of just throwing parts at it.
Bet you it’s an exhaust manifold problem
Parts cannon engaged
Update 3 years later. I did fix that CEL, but don't remember what caused it. Engine later threw a rod at 250k miles and seized. I pulled the engine and have been rebuilding a used engine to put back in, nearly done, but in the meantime bought a 2011 5.0 so haven't veen in a rush.
I own an 06 with 170k and no problems and I change these plugs regularly at the ford dealership I work at. The early model 5.4l plugs seize in there if they are left in for 150k but even if I break 7 out of 8 it still doesn't take but an extra 10-15 mins extra per plug. The cases of plugs blowing out of heads are usually from some shade tree mechanic not getting them tight on the harder to reach plugs. And I've seen many cheap after market plugs fail and break or burn the electrode off just from normal driving. I would never put anything other than motocraft plugs in them and I only put anti seize on the smooth shank near the tip, not the threads. The threads arent the seizing issue it's the tip that seizes in the head.
got a 2010 5.4 with 50k. Runs like a dream! Started right up after sitting for over 3 years (with fresh gas of course)!
I own a 2008 silverado 2500hd gas, and at work we have fords i drive an e150 service van with the 4.6 and we have f250s 5.4 with over 300,000 and its not just the mileage theyre running all day 6 days a week theyre really good trucks all of them have issues but if you take care of them they will last a long time
This is a great video. Ive been looking at GMs and Chevys in the 05 range but it's really hard for me to find what I want at the price I want. (Extended Cab, long bed). I started looking at Ford's and there are many more available in that configuration at a much lower price. I'm a mechanic as well, but my work is specialized and don't get to work on a ton of different stuff but I'm aware of the issues. I just hate hunting for vehicles and having to look at 20 different vehicles and all the potential issues.
Mine now has 304 k miles.and is still almost perfect
tennessee patriot just got a 07 starting at 87,000 last year and had those problems but is a a strong running truck
There is always a exception to the rule
325,000 on my 08 250 with the 5.4L 3 valve,still love it.
I have a 2007 F150 with the 5.4 3v and it has almost 208,000. Its really holding up well, great truck. I still see them everywhere here in Kansas. Treat it well and it'll treat you well.
You lucked out check out my post
None of your business
3 years ago (edited)
If your buying one with 5.4 buy one made late 2007 or 2008 gas the updated heads has normal plugs in motor
I got my Dad's 2004 Ford pickup 5.4 Triton which he hardly ever drove and I've had it for almost 4 years and it has about 29K miles on it. I hardly ever drive it myself. It's been a great truck.
As an owner of the same generation F150, even though this was a long list of problems, its not compete. The hubs on 4x4 models are vacuum operated and they put the module for that right under a water path so when you get water in the lines your truck will try to lock the hubs on you going down the road. Ford made an updated part that I guess it better but something to look out for. Also the fuel pump driver module is made out of aluminium and its mounted on a steel frame rail. Dissimilar metals = corrosion so you'll be driving down the road and your truck will just shut off. If you're looking at a truck of this vintage, I'd go with GM or the Japanese.
If your buying one with 5.4 buy one made late 2007 or 2008 gas the updated heads has normal plugs in motor
Things to check when looking at a 5.4L Triton: if your in reverse and backing out of the drive, away from the sale.
I have one but only because so clean low miles and $3k....
I like my work truck. But know I'm thinking to swap a 2012 motor into my 05.
Any comments? #GMguy
i have 400,000 km. on my F 350 5.4 engine had never been apart, still runs great
jesus christ did Ford throw the V10 Triton's heads into your V8 and chop 2 cylinders off? that's not something you see often
Also if you see or smell coolant just walk away
I feel like this guy was going through things that weren’t as blatantly obvious as coolant. More things under the truck.
That's the most restraint you've ever exercised when talking about a Ford. Are you doing ok?
Don't watch the outtakes!
this is a great video, much good advice. I wish you had videos describing other late model trucks and their known issues. I personally prefer old trucks, but it would be nice to have a newer one if I found one that I could deal with the known issues.
Buying an f150. Do not
Buy an f150. Do not
@@anitacarson5512 Y?
A little more about the 11th generation F-150..... the 5.4 3 valve Triton engine that came with most of these trucks have cam phaser issues which occur by not changing oil enough. Bad spark plug issues where the spark plug head breaks off into the engine. Power window regulators go out every once in awhile, and the third brake light leaks sometimes which causes water to get in the cab corners and it will Rust Out. and did I mention oil pumps could go out around 200k miles. My dad had one of these trucks and it had rear end problems, such as if you turn in reverse it will make a loud clunking noise. Transmissions are normally great on them.... but my dad's truck it always started always drove forward always backed up, but then the day he sold it when they guy was looking at it he went to start it up and it didn't start😂 because of a bad battery.
Awesome video!, I have on 04' and babied it and got 260,000 miles out of the motor before the cam phasers let go. I had a Ford remanufactured 5.4 motor put in and it has a 100,000 mile warranty. I'm approaching 300,000 miles now. I was told by Ford the remanufactured motor has the spark plug and cam phaser problem solved, hence the 100,000 mile warranty. I thing you hit upon everything to look for in a used F150. Thanks for posting!
i love buying the 1997 to 2003 4.6 i think it is the most reliable older ford truck you can buy i see them with 400k and still running there not great for towing heavy loads but great on fuel
Cam phaser knock will not destroy the engine. Just a loose locking pin inside phaser
never looking into buying f150 but i just support the channel
f a 4.2 L will do the job for you that's a good engine,
I'm glad I own a 2002 F150 with the 5.4 2 valve since new. I had only one coil go out so far and changed the plugs at 100,000 miles Got 135,000 miles now and running great
👋 hello! It's been 4 years since your posting & I was wondering how your trucks running now?
@@christopherdutro168 I have 179,000 miles on it now. I changed another coil, intake manifold gasket, air conditioner compressor, rear leaf springs, and rear brake lines. Considering that a decent new truck goes for at least $50,000 I'm glad I hung onto it. Thanks for your interest
wish i saw your video first. Now i have to go through your list on a used ford i already bought.
I owned a 2006 F150 with a 5.4. The motor was a gas guzzling DOG, no power. The motor would make spark plugs go dead every 6 months like clockwork. I changed the coil packs too, still did it. Air cond was crap too, had it worked on, just never got very cold. The vents were always screwed up, But..... it ran and ran, never any major issues, as a whole never had to put a lot of repairs like cam followers, new heads, cats. IT had 125000 when i bought it and put 120000 on it and decided my luck was running out. All and all, I loved it. GREAT factory stereo and speakers. Now I own a dodge durango, it guzzles gas, LOUSY stereo blown speakers, and rough ride. I plan to trade it for another F150 this spring. I will never buy another dodge again, just not the quality. Everything inside is cheaply mad, crummy cheap plastic that breaks.
Good job man. Very articulate and speedy delivery. Thanks man! Keep these up.
I bought mine back in 2015 and it’s been strong at now 170k. I keep up on the oil changes and right away when I bought it I had the spark plugs changed ford even said after they did it that I had one of the better 5.4s they’ve seen. It does have the tick but once you drive it and it warms up you can’t hear it, I also listen to the radio pretty loud too haha. I’m also pretty sure an old man had it before I did cause it was a standard white truck with a camper shell and steps on the side which I took both off and put on a leveling kit with 33 tires and black rims. I think it depends on the truck and how it was maintained mines not too rusty cause I live in California and it’s been maintained well
Love the advise Rich. I have had and fixed most of those issues and hope to keep the rest of them at bay with regular service. Still like the Ford though.
I just bought a 2000 f150 v6 5 speed for $1800. Its rusty and banged up but its just gonna be a run to the dump type truck. Goes down the the road great..no rattles..or bad habbits. Like your vids
Great video. I was looking at an 05 f150 until I saw this. Thanks for the video.
It's sad that people don't do proper maintenance. Itll kill any vehicle.
2005 King Ranch 5.4 Three valve, I have taken very good care of this truck. 135,000 miles last week it dropped one of the valves, having to replace the motor. Sucks, but it's much cheaper than buying a new one.
Service records? I've had my F150 for 11 years and there is no service records in existence. I would think most f150 owners do there own maintenance and repair.
Yes being a Ford owner I would agree. I constantly have to do maintenance on this piece of crap truck. LOL
@@oldephraim8771 What year&model?I'm about to go buy (for 1895$)a 97 f-150 xlt 4x4 auto SUPER CLEAN,SUPER CLEAN,SUPER CLEAN.4
6L everything works.Reccommendations?
@@oldephraim8771 I don't know man I work on them all and have owned them all and let me tell you this from experience I've had much better luck with ford where I work we do Diesel heavy equipment truck and automotive repair and as far as newer stuff these day ford are better even the fleet of service trucks we have tow trucks Ford's have been better and my boss owns an oil and propane company and the fleet of service trucks and vans least problem in gas is the Ford's with vans with 300 k on them with 3 valves and there still going strong I've pulled many more engines on Chevy's with broken cam locator pins for vvt actuator and bad cams due to bashed out lifters than Ford's and Ford's I can wedge the chain and replace the cam if need be Chevy's have to pull the heads to fix the lifters and for the dodges have pulled many hemis apart more so that 3 valve engines due to mushed out cams and lifters
@@doctordiesel5467 this man knows what he’s talking about if you understand what he’s saying in his run on sentences. Lol he knows his shit either way! Haha
Roger that who can afford to have someone else work on all these problems we have come across
I just bought a 2005 expedition without knowing all these problems now it has become a project
253,000KM on my 2005 F150.
Haven't had to spend a cent on the engine.
Just oil changes twice a year.
How is the truck? Spark plugs or coil packs fucked up yet?
You better change those spark plugs son
It depends on many miles you drive it yearly.....
Oil change should be done every 4,500 Km
Just bought mine. Has over 4 hundred thousand miles on it. Guy took perfect care of it. Runs great.
I bought a 2001 f150 lariat, 146k ...2900
To avoid breaking sparkplugs, run the engine hot and use remove all the bolts on the coil packs and remove all the plugs. Use an impact gun to remove all the sparkplugs for the rear plugs youll need a swivel and a long extension.
ibidu1 did mine hot too. Only broke one plug and it was the last one because the engine cooled down. Also used carb cleaner down the plug holes when they were cracked loose and that seemed to wick down and clean up some shmoo
I had a 04 5.4 Triton I had to replace the spark plugs twice in about 4 months. It had 172,000 miles, sold it and now I'm looking for another 150 after my Jeep is getting a little run down (217,000) miles!
This '07 150 I'm looking at right now has 25 service records, no accidents, 162,000 miles. I hope I get this one!
First time i ran indo that two piece spark plug I was tuning up my boss's f150. OH MAN. My heart sank. I had never heard of that (heard of them striping, but not breaking off) thankfully a call to another mechanic friend of mine led me to a special tool solution. but man, who ON EARTH thought that was a good idea? :p
Got a 2000 F-150 XLT 4.6 V8. It has the aluminium intake . Runs great!
How many miles on it? A buddy has an 02 with 208k on it but threw a good deal at me
great video, good information, I just bought a 2006 F-150 5.4L 187,000 miles. finding issues I will need to address over the next few weeks to get everything fixed.
I have an 07 4.6 with 176k miles and it runs like a dream. Just gotta do maintenance and check for noises,fluids and leaks and rubber wearing.
The last thing Ive done was replace a worn out output shaft seal that was leaking trans fluid. The part cost $22 and I did it myself.
Broke more than my fair share of Chevy springs, not quite sure where you're going with that. As far as trucks issues per manufacturer, Ford had the 5.4, Chevy had the 4L60e. Both had huge issues. The 5.4s issues, to me, were easier and cheaper to deal with. The spark plug issue just takes a little work and experience. Doesn't matter what name is on the title, they all have their own intrinsic issues.
Steven couldn't have said it better! I know a guy who bought the so-called reliable Tundra and his engine blew at 40K. There is no perfect manufacturer. My buddy has a 4.6 F-150 and has over 300 K and still going strong. Again they all have problems just pick the one you want to deal with.
1999 f150 with the 2v Triton .On my second motor . First one gave out at 225,000. I cant really speak on the 3v but the 2v is pretty reliable if you dont put a foot in it all the time.
1999 2v 5.4 going out on me at 210000 been a good truck but has headgasket issue and bad timing chain rattle at about 1000 rpm give or take 200rpm
Yeah they generally give out around that time
Yeah im happy with how it performed actually suprised with all the beating I did on it and the previous owner hauling cars with it that it lasted like it did
Step one: check to see if it's a 5.4 three valve.
Step two: If it is, don't buy it.
Yes, that is the truth.
217000 still going strong it's all how you keep it up
My thoughts exactly
I dont know man. Regular maintenance goes a long way
Three valves the only one with power
Currently driving a 2008 Ford F-150 and everything you've listed is so spot on. Love the truck, and hoping to keep it running a long time, so thanks for all the tips! Love all of your videos.
the best thing about these trucks is that there are so many on the road, someone, somewhere has already had and figured out the problem you are now dealing with.
Neighbor has a fleet of them and only buys them because there isn't an issue he hasn't come across yet.
Check out Fordtechmakuloco channel about these
I just bought a 2007 and it’s had an oil change every 3.5k miles. 97,700 miles on it. Absolutely stunning struck, only owned by an old man lol. it’s in better condition than most trucks made from 2018. $7,750 for it
5 out of 8 of the coil packs were replaced and it’s sort of shutters at 45 miles an hour.
Lisle 65600 plug removal tool. Best $60 i've spent
Isaac H brother I had my mechanic tell me he wouldn’t do my 5.4 3v on my Expo for that same reason, he didn’t want to risk breaking any of them and having to take it to the dealership to fix it. He flat out told me im better off paying what ever they charge me. I bought the extracting tool and had only one of them break on me but removed it with no issue! Thank the LORT for that Lisle plug removal tool💯
I own 97 f150 all I can say it will make you a better mechanic. Have to work on all the time.
2000 expedition 5.4 triton... just cracked 246k miles and still going
William G is the two valve similair to the three valve when it comes to the timing chain and inner parts?
I have the same vehicle and I'm at 243k miles just watch out because about 10k miles ago I had the intake manifold crack and spew coolant everywhere and had to replace the intake which is apparently somewhat common, but I've owned it since 128k and that was the first major issue.
I have 2000 f150 5.4 tritón and just bougth it and ir pass smog With no issues,runs very strong,206.000 Miles,
I had a 04 silverado with 90 thousand kms for 2 weeks before the frame snapped in half when i was loading my atv in it. I now have a 08 f150 with almost 260 thousand kms on it and it looks brand new underneath
you dont live in upstate n.y. where we salt the shit out of these roads
Thank you so much for the most helpful video. You do indeed have a load for helpful followers. Spend almost an hour reading all the comments and gained a plethora of info.
I am looking for a used truck and was told Ford's are the best. I am not so sure now and am expanding my search to GM and Toyota. Need to stay under $14000.
Had planned to look at a 2010 F150 with 130k miles with a 5.4 but have scratched that off the list.
For what it means I live in the Northeast and see 10 times as many GM trucks on the road as I see Fords.
... This is why I like my 93 F150 with the 5.0 (302)
Had two previous 5.0 excellent motors always reliable
@wrxassa Right they're big bodies
Those pushrod 5.0s are fuckin killer if you take care of em
I'm looking at convert a 5.4 to new type of electric conversion experiment as I might have a new way to push the pistons in this engine. I can go with a simple shift transmission controller and I shouldn't have to worry about 90% of the problems you highlighted. Wish me luck, Thanks for the video, God bless.
My 2006 5.4 has over 215k on it. given me no trouble. changed the plugs and coils once and oil every 3-5k miles
change plugs and coils every 3-5k??? what a joke! Buy a quality truck like a Chevy.
Eric Peacock read what he said again. "changed the plugs and coils once"
I agree with you 100%. I do have a Ford F150 2006 model had it from day one and the only reason why it runs is because I’m the one owner who religiously changes the oil
as a ford fan that rarely has problems with a 2010 5.4 I would like to say that most of the problems are caused by owners that think that they are engeneers. just use motorcraft oil wit a motorcraft filter and motorcraft battery with motorcraft coolant motorcraft plugs. I've seen people pour green coolant in their truck and the complain when their plugs break inside their aluminum head. or people using royal purple or Mobil 1 and then cry when their phasers start ticking
New f150 owner, what should i use?
Benjamin Houston would you say as long as you stay on top of your engine maintenance your vehicle should be fine because I am about to purchase a O5 F150 from a local used car dealer here in town and I took it for test drive I did not hear any knocking smell any coolant or see any signs of leaking anywhere and it’s only had two owners
I would't personally want to take that chance, good luck. Call a local shop and ask them how much to repair the cam pahsers or timing chain guides. Then ask yourself if you can afford that 1-2000.00 repair out of pocket when or if it happens? The dealer bought that truck from an auction or a trade in from someone else that didn't want it.
If you want the best possible warm and fuzzies and you must finance the truck, go get pre approved for a loan, find a private party truck and have it inspected before you buy it. Now start socking away 100-200 a month into a vehicle repair or replace fund.. with any luck in 4 or 5 years you have 10k cash and sell your truck and can pay cash for your next clunker.
Motocraft stuff is inferior to higher end filters and oils by a lot
Benjamin Houston ya I've used Mobil 1 in my last 2 f150s no problems. 99 f150 with 175000 no problems and now an 08 f150 130000 no problems. However I do us Motorcraft oil filters. Many people don't keep up on maintenance and want to blame it on the engine
Had a 98 Expedition with a 4.6l, lots of misfires, plug and wire changes. Kept a can of MAF cleaner when the CEL came on, I could always tell if had a misfire. Kept it for 300k until my wife sold it while I was at work. I'm a fan of the newer trucks with the 5.0l in them and will steer away from a Triton unless its low miles.
I just got a 2008 f150 one week ago and yes with a 5.4 after watching this video I think I screwed my self up. Im a dodge guy but F150 was in a great price and yes I felt for it. Oh man ! After driving it for a week the Idle air control valve went bad An i can hear some air by the manifold oh man im in deep. Check engine light turn on!
Godzilla 83 ill pray for you hahahaha wait for the wheel bearings to crap out second set in 8 months.
I put 320K on an '03 F150 4.6L Supercab. Loved Ole Blue. Totaled her. Now have a '05 5.4L Crew Cab (255K) and I have to say... The 4.6L had more power. No mechanical issues with either truck. When this '05 hits 300K I *may* sell it....and get an '09 or '10. I never, ever buy a brand new truck, because I know how hard I am on them. Fords aren't sexy, but it's the best truck for the money.
Helped out alot. Man I love TH-cam
Check basics, radiator, oil, tires, accessories, drive test, etc. Check the codes with a Actron CP9690 code tester. Do a tuneup and oil change etc.
Ford is still the #1 selling truck. I've been satisfied with every one I've owned. Every manufacturer has issues due to poor engineering of some area or another. Also a lot of issues are assembly line worker related and the day it was built. I've been driving for 55 years and can say, Own enough vehicles and you're bound to have that one you wish you'd never bought!!
Well said James! People give Ford a lot of crap but their quality has improved over the last couple decades. Plus there are so many on the road that you can find parts easy and for relatively cheap. I've owned 2 Ford Rangers and 1 Toyota Tacoma, and the Tacoma was a much more expensive Truck to repair.
John here had a 1997 changed plugs 125.000 miles use Bosch even after the miles on them they still look good. Truck sold with 297.000 miles still going. Did change out oil every 3000 miles
06 Ford Triton v8 with 528,976 miles, no rebuild.
On Original engine?'
@@jacobsebastien3910 yes
I change my oil every 2000 miles, seems to be the trick. Plugs every 80k. Fuel filter same.
And then you woke up??
@@lightningvolt1273 said the chevy guy. Chevy makes good motors, too bad the body will rust out and it will creak worse than an old house with wafer board floors.
If you live in Canada check your fuel pump driver. Its above the spare tire. It gets galvalinic corrosion and shorts out leaving you stranded. I believe they fixed it by 2008 but it was a big issue for the first few years
GM's are worth it just for the LS motors. Cam in block is much simpler and they're extremely durable
Couldn't agree more, sometimes you just gotta keep it simple.
Use the engine set up that's been used for a hundred years not everything has to be so complicated.
Well I don’t know about that I had a 09 gm with the 5.3 with 130000 km. I had to change cam shaft and lifters.... regular maintenance and everything.
Anything with 130000 km on it is shot.
130,000km 81,000 miles is shot really !!!!
Robert Smith the 4.6 2v which is the f150 from 08 and before are also bullet proof ,now the 3v 4.6 in the 09 and up f150,thats another story
Can confirm at least on the exhaust studs issue. My '99 F-250 "barn find" was already ticking at just 40k miles. I'm at about 65k miles now and have been procrastinating it since it's not 'too bad' and has been able to pass inspection (so far). I just make sure to get it nice and hot before taking it in.
First off if it's an older 5.4 then yeah go for it but if it's a newer 5.4 3valve like my 2007 xlt 4x4 super crew I would pass take my personal experience for your decision I bought my 2007 brand new in 2016 the engine started giving me problems first with the vct solenoids then the cam phasers then oil pressure issues causing crank to have end play all of this at 105,000 miles and with regular oil changes and new plugs never had a check engine lite always passed emissions here in Chicago finally truck jumped time and would barely turn over so decided to go with a new remanufactured 5.4 from Ford for $5200 with 3year unlimited mile warranty had installed at my local repair shop still one more year on warranty and 19,000 miles so far so good but not holding my breath if you can I'd go with a later model say 2009 and newer and go for the 5.0 coyote motor just my personal opinion if you want to see a good channel here on you tube about these 5.4 motors check out Fordtechmakuloco channel
I AM KAZIE 5.0 wasn’t in 09 it was 2011 and up
I AM KAZIE but good advice
@@heavymetal375 yeah wasn't sure when Ford went back to the 5.0 so thanks for clarifying that for me I had a new 1986 F-150 with the 5.0 and then a new 93 F-150 also with the 5.0 they were very good motors my friend bought a new 2013 super crew with the 5.0 coyote edition and he hasn't had any issues with his in 1997 I had a brand new f150 with 5.4, new 2002 F-150 with 5.4,new 2004 F-150 again with 5.4, then the troubles started with my current 2007 5.4 3 valve maybe I kept it too long compared to my previous F-150s lol
If you have an 09 or newer tritan, dont worry about the plugs. They revised the design and they are no longer prone to breaking off.
"Triton" is the engine name.
@@forthefunofit5487 yupp, thanks
I was between one of these and a chevy, when I asked what the last mileage the spark plug were changed at, the owner went "uhh....iunno??".
Beyond happy with my LS powered chevy truck and avoiding a $1,000+ bill for broken ford spark plugs.
If you know what you are doing, the spark plugs can be removed without breaking them.
Thats crazy I just put airbags on my 20 year old leafs.... I couldn't imagine ever being worried about leafs snapping.
You mentioned the cam phaser problem but didn't go in the horror story that it can be. If you hear ticking upon startup it could be the timing chain tensioner and/or cam phaser problem. It's a nightmare and runs $1200 up to $3000 depending on if you can do the work or you take it to a dealer. This is for all the 3 valve per cylinder Tritons. I lucked out and bought a 2005 F150 with a 2 valve 4.6L and totally avoided this issue (no Variable Valve Timing on 2 valve heads). The F150 forum is the place to go for detailed information.
How's that 4.6 2v? Miles? Any problems etc..? Thanks.
Every F 150 I looked at so far had a check engine light and engine sounded like a loud ancient clock. No maintenance records and they all leaked oil. Dealers still wanted over 15 grand for 04 to 05 models with over 180k, because its in Colorado and 4 wheel drive pick up trucks are high valuables and everybody wants one ,because of the Mountains and snow.
1k-3k for some plugs?! My 05 f150 took it to a shop 5 of them broke still got my bill just 316$
If they shoot out of your head then it might be 1k-3k for a new head so that you could seat a new set of spark plugs, as you don't want your threads to go
@@roypitts1408 Wtf is a 3.5L Triton?
@@Juice-tr8xi I meant 5.4 L V8 f150 Triton.
Roy Pitts He literally says that if you maintain it the truck will treat you fine jackass. Did you even watch the video?
@@roypitts1408 It does when you have to pull the heads because despite more than 100 years of manufacturing vehicles, Ford hasn't figured out how to put a fuckin spark plug in one. You can baby that shit all you like, the 5.4 is easily one of the worst engines ever made in the history of the automotive industry.
Ford is the king of planned obsolescence. What we need is a hybrid cab over modular pickup with the generator mounted in the bed of the pickup so engine pulls are super easy.
Great tips, im on my 10th ford currently driving my 99 F150 with over 200k. I worked for ford so i guess its a subconscious decision. But i have enjoyed driving them too bad they are not a better Comp regarding the manufacturing of these models. Its such a well liked truck to some. Its also disappointing to learn of all these maintenance issues. Thx for sharing really appreciate it enjoyed the vid👍
Finally a real video thank you !
Not terrible engines could he better but they do last. I had one with 260k on it ran like a top
i own a 4.6 f150 and its got over 300k miles love that truck runs amazing for the amount of miles!!!
A1kills3 4.6 is about 50 times better then the tritons but they are also very very very very sensitive..
350k on my van 5.4. Still screaming
Oh, you were the one.
@ryanhribar true, lmao. I was about to say same. And no, they aren't better than the 5.4
I have an 08 with 200k miles & 0 problems. I changed the plugs & coils at 125k. When I first bought the truck the Ford mechanic told me to only use Motorcraft oil filter. I change the oil every 10k.
alan Lastll
Not all turds stink
I've been told that they got the 5.4 right in 09 & 10. Do you agree?
@Anthony Hales I'm not trying to call you a liar, but how did he manage to spend $6 grand and still not correct the issue? What did he spend it on?
Anthony Hales facts I have a triton 5.4 4x4 ‘00 with almost 400,000 miles running strong just tranny needs to be fixed but never no issue besides that very strong motors 🔥
@Anthony Hales
Is right. I was told the years to buy 1999-2003. I'm understanding they are the 2v system while the 04-up is 3v
@Anthony Hales
I'm actually going to go buy a 150xl today.
2003, 67,000 miles for $5k
@Anthony Hales
This one is the 7700 package. Ot says v8, not sure. We'll see
I have one I got cheap (2004 F-150 lariat 5.4l), which was fortunate, as I ended up sinking quite a bit into it. Misfiring due to broken spark plug and coil pack connectors, and faulty IMRC sensor, got those replaced mostly by myself (along with the spark plugs, which did NOT break!). Got upper/lower ball joints, sway bar links, power steering hose was leaking. New tires, windshield, battery, alternator... but by that point I was determined to get it all working. Now it's running pretty solid tho, 215k, hoping it'll be my work beater for at least 5 more years.
It still needs a radio, new speakers, and maybe a paint job, but I'm not too particular.
i really wish someone would steal my 04 5.4 or just plow into it. its a nice truck but ive bout had it with those damn cams. i aint fixing another freakin thing on it im just gonna drive it till she blows
Use only 5w20 motorcraft oil and the cam phasers will last forever. Thicker oil cannot go through the tiny passages in the phases which causes them to fail.
@@Claudebonegt ... My 2001 Lincoln Navigator has taken a liking to the Mobile version of the synthetic blend ...started using it about 3 yrs ago ... Great advise though
@@Claudebonegt no....in the states, you should really use 5w 30. Same engine , say in Brazil...is 5w30 and they never had an issue. The states had us use 5w20 because of our "standards". I had my phasers , timing, tensioners, and coil packs replaced. BUT......now Ford FINALLY made the correct cams with he smaller spring with a lock pin. Better design. Plus , change your oil pump while you're in there
Can I have your transmission, when it does. Gram Candy
@@Claudebonegt use 5w30 oil after 130k otherwise they'll tick all the time
I got one from my grandfather since he couldn't drive anymore. It has the header leak you explained I was hoping it was the header that cracked but what you explained with the studs snapping sounds like exactly the problem. Its sounds like a machine gun when you start it then after about 5 minuets it goes away then under load it comes back. Also it has a shit ton of rust since its from Massachusetts.
get a 4.6 from 08 and before ,those still are 2v engines ,but stay away from the 4.6 3v thats in the 09 and up f150s
Agreed have a 2000 4.6 247000 no problem gets Lucas in the oil and marvel in the gas frequently.
Might close on a 1998 F150 with the 4.6ltr @ valve Triton V8. 4x4 on the floor, cosmetically beat up but the engine is sound. The guy wants S1,900 USD. Excited to get it if it comes through.
Some 09-10 F150s had the 4.6 2 valve.
Thanks for your Great videos. I appreciate the straight no bs approach.
I bought my F150 xlt, xtr supercrew 4x4 with variable valves and 6 speed auto new in 2010 now 2018 it has 120k KM / 70 K miles
Always been on top of the maintenance. so far ; ) Maintenance plan was included at 50 k Canadian = say about 40 k US
I am aware of some of the issues of older trucks prior to 2010 like manifold leak specially cold start in Canada in the winter - 20 to -30 C but quite down when it worms up. Yeah mine too. I know $1,800 plus Lol.
I Had very few issues with mine. So far. Works great. Love it.
Please tell me that Ford has improved since 2010 or what I should look out for.
Thanks again for your great videos.