Nice. I would recommend you invest in a dead-blow hammer though, they really are the best tool for knocking the part hard into a chuck or machine vice, perfect for getting the part sitting hard against a parallel strip. If you can't invest the money to buy one (there are some reasonably cheap ones) then invest some time and scrap to make one. It's just a soft faced hammer with a hollow head which is filled mostly full of steel or lead shot. The shot provides a second impact that helps prevent the part from bouncing back. Every machinist needs a dead-blow hammer, it was one of my first projects as an apprentice.
van ilyenem ,mert vett egyszer a fönök magának,eltört a müanyag feje,és mérgébe bedobta alomok közé én kihalásztam és müanyagbol csináltamrá betétet,és elhoztam haza mert ,ha meglátta volna elvette volna mert igy jol hasznáható ujra.ö meg vett magának ujra egyet, késöbb meg lett egy amühelyfelszerelésbe
One would have to assume that if you're watching machining videos this subject interest you. At the time of posting my comment there are a mere 14 comments, yet there are 6,900 views! Does that mean that there are 6,886 aspiring machinists that find this hack commonplace? When the Lathe (only) is your focus this hack is brilliant! At the very least it's definitely not commonplace! This certainly deserves far more that the 294 current likes! The term "Hack" carries negative connotations but I'm adding my LIKE because this method deserves a hell of a lot more! Wakodahatchee Chris
So this is how my out of square (or hex?) Aliexpress hexagon ER32 collet chuck was made. This explains so much! Finally I understand how they managed to screw it up so incredibly bad.
@@edwardhugus2772 Haha I was hiding underneath my desk within half a second when he first started that setup.The precision machinist triangle he uses is not even the worst issue.. those thing can be pretty close to accurate from time to time.
@@Tom-xn7zc And I cant figure why he faced everything from center to edge...sure, it works, but I wasn't taught that maneuver.... and his finish was horrendous. I'll bet his prints for the part were drafted in crayon.
@@edwardhugus2772 He tried working from center but his guesstimates were pretty far from center. At least halfway through he started using a backstop in order to stay on dimension so perhaps his next piece will be more accurate. The crayon drawings part of your comment had me laughing out loud, thank you for brightening up my day.
He makes contact and then turns in a specific distance from that contact point. The first face is at a random place in space, the 2nd and 3rd are set by the protractor. The next 3 are just by spacing against the bar up against the face of the chuck. Straight forward but still very smart.
What’s not clear to me is how far into the piece do you advance the cutter when creating the faces of the hexagon, without doing the math. I must be missing a detail in the “bucket chemistry” mentioned here 😉
@@toddz8579 yep. You just cut them all to the same depth. That is all you need for a hexagon, 6 cuts to the same depth, and indexed somehow in 60 degree steps.
Корявенько конечно вышло ,но предпосыл понятен будет многим ))) думаю в видео автор не придерживался линейных параметров, а просто на скорую руку показал краткий смысл изготовления шестигранника на токарном ..., молодец, учишь начинающих , хотя в этой процедуре нет ничего нового )) тема весьма затертая)
Надо ещё было вам добавить, что в случае если деталь вырвет, так как она держится не очень надёжно, то токарь (если останется жив и здоров ) испытывает очень яркие и глубокие положительные эмоции. Помню когда слесарь попросил отрезать кусок от резца высотой 32 мм, то от вибрации, так как работа на удар, кулачки приотжались ( а у резца стороны оказались не параллельны, это я уже потом выяснил)... и потом я выставлял переднюю бабку. И благодарил ангела -хранителя, видимо тому пришлось здорово поднапрячься.
Theres one part to this process that is not seen nor explained... how to know how much material to remove for each side so that the finished product is perfectly symmetrical...?
🙈 das tut weh beim zusehen, so viele schläge aufs Werkzeug und Vibrationen die der Maschine und deren Lager nicht gut tun. Bevor ich so mit einer Maschine und dem Werkzeug umgehe da Feile ich lieber per Hand und mit nen Winkelschleifer. Auch wenn die Technik auf den ersten Blick schlau ist, auf den 2. Blick kann man als Fachmann nur mit den Kopf schütteln. Grüße von einem Deutschen MAF Metall und Kunststofftechnik.
Interessante, porém perigoso! E o avanço for alto e a ferramenta travar na peça, ela pode se soltar e acertar a cabeça do torneiro. Serviço específico para fresadora e não para torno !!!
وقتی پشت دستگاه تراش میایستی یاد بگیر آچار را روی دستگاه رها نکنی و وقتی میشه یک شش ضلعی به این شکل خرید شما نباید تمیز کردن و بریدن و ... رو به ما نشان بدید
Unfortunately, he forgot to take a measurement somewhere, and then turn half of his hex width from each face. Then the outer contour would be good enough for a nut.
Это все неплохо, идея отличная, хотя и не новая, но блин неужели нельзя было всю подготовку заготовки оставить за кадром? Кому нужны эти ваши торцовка, проточка и отрезание?
Intersting technique.
I would be scrared of that hexagonal bar.
Nice.
I would recommend you invest in a dead-blow hammer though, they really are the best tool for knocking the part hard into a chuck or machine vice, perfect for getting the part sitting hard against a parallel strip.
If you can't invest the money to buy one (there are some reasonably cheap ones) then invest some time and scrap to make one.
It's just a soft faced hammer with a hollow head which is filled mostly full of steel or lead shot. The shot provides a second impact that helps prevent the part from bouncing back.
Every machinist needs a dead-blow hammer, it was one of my first projects as an apprentice.
Gracias, siempre se aprende
Хордите на шестогама никога по този начин няма да са еднакви,ти на фреза с деференциал пак трудно ще ги получиш камили ,по този начин на струг.
van ilyenem ,mert vett egyszer a fönök magának,eltört a müanyag feje,és mérgébe bedobta alomok közé én kihalásztam és müanyagbol csináltamrá betétet,és elhoztam haza mert ,ha meglátta volna elvette volna mert igy jol hasznáható ujra.ö meg vett magának ujra egyet, késöbb meg lett egy amühelyfelszerelésbe
One would have to assume that if you're watching machining videos this subject interest you. At the time of posting my comment there are a mere 14 comments, yet there are 6,900 views! Does that mean that there are 6,886 aspiring machinists that find this hack commonplace? When the Lathe (only) is your focus this hack is brilliant! At the very least it's definitely not commonplace! This certainly deserves far more that the 294 current likes! The term "Hack" carries negative connotations but I'm adding my LIKE because this method deserves a hell of a lot more!
Wakodahatchee Chris
Thanks brother ♥️🙏
Interesting but ever had one of those spacer bars pop out at you when you start up!? Centrifugal force is a wonderful thing. 😮
So this is how my out of square (or hex?) Aliexpress hexagon ER32 collet chuck was made. This explains so much! Finally I understand how they managed to screw it up so incredibly bad.
Must have used the wrong plastic "machinist" triangle...I actually moved my head when he started that lathe with that dodgy "precision" setup jig.
@@edwardhugus2772 Haha I was hiding underneath my desk within half a second when he first started that setup.The precision machinist triangle he uses is not even the worst issue.. those thing can be pretty close to accurate from time to time.
@@Tom-xn7zc And I cant figure why he faced everything from center to edge...sure, it works, but I wasn't taught that maneuver.... and his finish was horrendous. I'll bet his prints for the part were drafted in crayon.
@@edwardhugus2772 He tried working from center but his guesstimates were pretty far from center. At least halfway through he started using a backstop in order to stay on dimension so perhaps his next piece will be more accurate.
The crayon drawings part of your comment had me laughing out loud, thank you for brightening up my day.
@@Tom-xn7zc Happy to make you smile, have a wonderful day!
You should explain how you proceed to obtain a regular hexagon with 6 identical faces and whose axis coincides with that of the starting cylinder.
He doesnt.
This is the equivalent of "bucket chemistry" in machining.
The best you get is a HSO 😁
He makes contact and then turns in a specific distance from that contact point. The first face is at a random place in space, the 2nd and 3rd are set by the protractor. The next 3 are just by spacing against the bar up against the face of the chuck. Straight forward but still very smart.
It is pretty self explanatory to me.
What’s not clear to me is how far into the piece do you advance the cutter when creating the faces of the hexagon, without doing the math. I must be missing a detail in the “bucket chemistry” mentioned here 😉
@@toddz8579 yep. You just cut them all to the same depth. That is all you need for a hexagon, 6 cuts to the same depth, and indexed somehow in 60 degree steps.
Корявенько конечно вышло ,но предпосыл понятен будет многим ))) думаю в видео автор не придерживался линейных параметров, а просто на скорую руку показал краткий смысл изготовления шестигранника на токарном ..., молодец, учишь начинающих , хотя в этой процедуре нет ничего нового )) тема весьма затертая)
Надо ещё было вам добавить, что в случае если деталь вырвет, так как она держится не очень надёжно, то токарь (если останется жив и здоров ) испытывает очень яркие и глубокие положительные эмоции. Помню когда слесарь попросил отрезать кусок от резца высотой 32 мм, то от вибрации, так как работа на удар, кулачки приотжались ( а у резца стороны оказались не параллельны, это я уже потом выяснил)... и потом я выставлял переднюю бабку. И благодарил ангела -хранителя, видимо тому пришлось здорово поднапрячься.
@@АндрейТретьяк-с6ф That sounds chaotic
Ничего нового и особенного..😊
Vamos arriba hermano Messin excelente un Abrazo para ti y todos los hermanos Indoneses. ❤❤
Yes, the "trick" to making a hexagon is to use your handy 60-degree angle piece. Who would've thought of doing that? Very original.
For beginners/hobbyists in machining wihout a lot tolling it is a valuable idea how to make things.
Your work is so effective with simple means.✊️
Frank 🙋♂️🇩🇪
Thanks Frank ♥️
Very clever. But having that bar stick out past the chuck is just a stupid unnecessary safety hazard.
That's a ponytail grabber
A forearm breaker.
Theres one part to this process that is not seen nor explained... how to know how much material to remove for each side so that the finished product is perfectly symmetrical...?
Creative video , thanks you :) Do you have the technique on making a spiral drill bit ? thanks
Saya akan mencoba memikirkan teknik membuat mata bor spiral
@@YantooThanks, common drill bit, we use daily :)
Brilliant. May not be to the .0001 but would be great for a shade tree guy like myself putting flats on a turnbuckle or something. Love it
Very interesting. Enjoyed watching. I was a machinist for years but never saw this.
Very good job I'm doing my apprenticeship as Fitter and Turner I'm very much motivated
Fantastic sir , what kind of carbide tool you are using ? Many thanks
Спасибо за метод, буду использовать! 👍👍👍
Gday, that’s a simple way to form a hex, great job mate, cheers
Ай да молодец. Обязательно попробую как нибудь при возможности.
Зачем допиливать болгаркой? Длины резца не хватило? Можно же оставить совсем тонкую шейку и руками отломить. Если уж не хочется дорезать...
yes but what size and are they all equal from centre. and its cheaper buy that size hex scrap part lol
wie lange hält eine Ladung des akkus?
Excelente trabajo... Y explicado en poco tiempo...
Excelente amigo, muchas gracias por compartir su experiencia y conocimientos
congratulations you make everything simple
Thanks brother Mirco ♥️
А вот за прикрытую от абразива станину - респект !
You finished parting the piece off at 1:15 with a powered cut off wheel for why?
His chatter was getting too bad. A problem with the tool or the tool post, rigidity is the issue.
Probably no more stick out available on the tool. At the small remaining diameter chatter should not be a problem.
Wow 🍂🌴🌴🍁🪴🌲🌲🌺🌺🌺🌺💯🌱💐💐💐💐💐💐🍄🍓🍓🌷🌹🌹🪻🥀👍👍☘️🍀🦋🍃🍃😍🍨🍀🍀 good job
А зачем изготавливать шестигранник? Можно его купить и не тратить драгоценное время
🙈 das tut weh beim zusehen, so viele schläge aufs Werkzeug und Vibrationen die der Maschine und deren Lager nicht gut tun.
Bevor ich so mit einer Maschine und dem Werkzeug umgehe da Feile ich lieber per Hand und mit nen Winkelschleifer.
Auch wenn die Technik auf den ersten Blick schlau ist, auf den 2. Blick kann man als Fachmann nur mit den Kopf schütteln.
Grüße von einem Deutschen MAF Metall und Kunststofftechnik.
Ух мне аж страшно стало, вращающийся ломик, а там еще и ключ патрона в станине между ног болтается... Ну вы поняли
ага
после ключа выключил и в игнор чудика.
Don’t you destroy the tool machining the piece thus ? ...
A good machinist will always make the parts, no matter what machines or tools are available to them.
Great way of doing it
Interessante, porém perigoso!
E o avanço for alto e a ferramenta travar na peça, ela pode se soltar e acertar a cabeça do torneiro.
Serviço específico para fresadora e não para torno !!!
Absolutely great thank you
Parabéns 👏👏👏👌. Brasil
А зачем? Для этог осуществует фрезерный станок.
Never seen this before ,nice
Very cool video 🇧🇷😉👍👏👏👏👏
Thanks brother ♥️
وقتی پشت دستگاه تراش میایستی یاد بگیر آچار را روی دستگاه رها نکنی و وقتی میشه یک شش ضلعی به این شکل خرید شما نباید تمیز کردن و بریدن و ... رو به ما نشان بدید
Thank you for No 'Muzick' noise !
Mmmm no creo q salga algo demasiado prolijo en cuñando a medidas la regla puede estar en otra posición al girar
Nice method❤
Stuff I don’t even think about doing,thanks
Buenas la escuadra que usas es de 30 grados
عالی بود ...ممنون بیننده ای از ایران
Unfortunately, he forgot to take a measurement somewhere, and then turn half of his hex width from each face. Then the outer contour would be good enough for a nut.
You dont ever leave spacers like that in the chuck. WITF are you thinking????
It's not a spacer, it's clamped
Why is the “spacer” sticking out past the chuck. That’s a man killer for sure🤷♂️
Nice video
Very creative and clever.
Thanks brother Thomas
Это все неплохо, идея отличная, хотя и не новая, но блин неужели нельзя было всю подготовку заготовки оставить за кадром? Кому нужны эти ваши торцовка, проточка и отрезание?
Muy buena idea, que buen ingenio
Such good information. Thank you very much.
Thanks for watching brother Twidale
Potentially dangerous, imprecise, sloppy... exactly my style! lol. Sometimes these techniques are the best.
Таким же образом делается молоток с квадратным бойком.
Молодец. Знаешь что делаешь.
good video mekanik mesin
très bonne technique mais très dangereuse, si par malheur il oubli la barre en aluminium
il aura le crane fracassé.
School supplies seller rejoices with his favorite customer
And this, little one, is where the little steel sponges come from...
Génial merci ca peut servir. Même si je suis fraiseur 😉
Thank You
Khi bạn ko đủ máy móc thi việc đó thật tuyệt vời
What is the formula to get a given dimensions of hex?
The square root of your eyeball.
@@BeachsideHank Hilarious 🤣
A/F = d*cos30 where d = orig bar dia
depth of cut = L = 0.5*d*(1-cos30)
@@robhammond4537 thank you
@@robhammond4537Can you explain in detail please
What's the point. I did that in high school metal shop for a grade.
Super idia bro
Šikovné, moc pěkné.
great vid
Я давно такой херней перестал заниматься. Очень редко в случае крайней необходимости. Здоровье дороже.
Good idea😃
Ótimo vídeo, parabéns
Idea yang bagus kawan goodluck
Научись сначала резцы точить и отрезать 😅
Tronconnage l'outil a l'envers et dressage de face outil a 45degré
Gjb❤
nice trick : )
Bom, vc usou o mesmo procedimento que eu fiz, muito bom.
Terimakasih saudaraku ♥️
Nic❤❤❤
چرا ویدئو خرابه نشون نمیده
très bien 👍👍
Ничего удивительного. Лично видел как токарь "долбил" шпоночный паз на токарном станке.
Деление окружности на 6 частей ,проще некуда,грань равна радиусу.
Kalo huruf U gini gimna bang bbubutnya
Wow kueren Om
Gracias por el aporte
Very nice!
Exelente trabajo
Terimakasih saudaraku ♥️
Thanks for sharing.
Sześciokąta?
Buen video saludos
Ophouden met die mailtjes
... wonderfull ...
Buen trabajo
👍👍👍👍
Super !😂
Полная херня. На глаз воткнул и все размеры по заводу😂
😁😁🙏🙏
Eso ases cuamdo no tienes una fresadora y no tienes mido de darte un madraso
Better I use milling machine with the square set