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@DanielSunil-tj2pz I think presenter stuck to facts as they were i have severe depression GAD bpd autism posdible dysprexia many many sucide attempts and I feel it was fairly covered I vomment s,it on dries on uou tube referring yo mental health etc zbd eutnessed and been subjected to true Stigma and harassment vos of being mentally ill not on here ut by prople in my vicinity last year early on in year I was assaulted by domeone eho was verbally abu to me as well as other instances do I appreciate your concern but they were starting a fact that prople eith very severe psychotic relapse eill occasionally with thr being of unsound mind take their lives and others with them I donfvin all honesty think you xan stigmatise public anymore than the public already are stigmatised it's replies you get online which areometimes horrible snd not followed up by you tube RiP to all
There's no misinformation. As someone with lots of mental issues, I'm glad that this story is being spread. Things like this shouldn't have a chance of happening. @@DanielSunil-tj2pz
@@chooselife5863it’s still the safest way to travel, don’t make these videos be scared, the reason this channel exists is because it almost never happens, look at car crashes, thousands happen daily
I've heard to look at the flight attendants' reactions to a situation to guage whether it's a situation worth panicking over. I'd imagine seeing that the flight attendants were indeed panicking would be terrifying. But seeing _the pilot_ desperately attempting to re-enter the cockpit with futile attempts to knock the door down while the co-pilot is "unresponsive" on the other side? Nuh uh. I can not imagine that level of terror.
What's even worse for that pilot is the fact that the door is on a 30 sec time release so when the door isn't opening he damn well knows the co-pilot is deliberately preventing him from accessing the cockpit & isn't just unconscious
Particularly tragic for the young exchange students. I seem to remember a story of one exchange student who realised he'd left his passport behind while on the way to the airport. The host family had to return home with him to collect it and they then rushed to the airport and he still made the flight. How the family must have felt afterwards I can't begin to imagine. 😢
I remember being a student at the school his girlfriend taught back when this had happened. A lot of my friends were in a class she taught and we all remembered her as being one of the „cool“ teachers. She told us about her pregnancy and everyone was so happy for her, but after this incident I don‘t think she really ever returned to teach at our school. I still remember me and my friends getting calls from news stations all around the world asking us many questions about her and whether she ever talked about private matters, which all of us were pretty freaked out about. I really hope she was able to find peace with everything she had to go through, she really was such a nice person…
Just to confirm I follow. The co-pilot, who crashed the plane, was expecting a baby from his Gf?? That makes the story even more shocking. I've always been mentally healthy, but the joy I had with my baby is immense that I would have thought it would prevent someone from doing something this insane.
@@RobMedellinnot everyone finds joy in parenthood 🙄 Actually, there's a study that says that parenthood makes people more depressed due to stress and other factors
All fatal accidents are tragic - but there is something especially terrifying thinking about the people who knew they were about to die. RIP to the victims ❤
I'm remembering this tragedy very well. First we believed (In Germany and France) that something was wrong with the plane, maybe a decompression. And suddenly the French authorities stopped to inform the press, and said they have to talk to the German authorities first. (at this point they got the analysis from the voice recorder) I was shocked 😢
@@danielkaufmann15I more shocked that the hijack wasn't labeled a terorst attxk but the usual blame was put on MH because he was a Cauc. Imagine if he was an Arab, we all know he would be linked to many groups and his act would be labelled a T-attxk.
@@abstraqtphilosophy7357 He was ordered by His doctors to stay Home and get therapy because of mental health issues and hid past mental health issues from His amployer. Please inform yourself before you Play the Race Card. ITS also in the Video you supposedly watched. He once didnt get His medical examination due to mental health issues. This Case led to Public opinion in Germany shifting in favor of electronic "sick leaves" which means his doctor would have informed Lufthansa.
About the door lock, setting it on lock iirc doesn't block it from the emergency code, however once the emergency code is typed in there's a timer that will start before the door automatically opens up, a pilot can then manually, within this timer set the doorlock control on 'deny' which will then prevent even someone with an emergency code to enter - this means that despite given the multiplen chances to reconsider, he steadfastly denied entry no matter what. (I'm not sure if these control settings were already present on that airplane exactly, but it's def there nowadays)
Yeah, that's the incapacitation keycode that is used for entry. Green Dot Aviation mentions it in detail in his MH370 theory which is incredibly well done.
I remember something similar happened with LAM Mozambique a year before this accident. The pilot deliberately crashed the plane in Namibia en route to Luanda. About 30 people died. He had locked the co pilot out of the cockpit when he went to the bathroom. The investigation also found out that the captain had a turbulent personal life: divorce, youngest child was going through surgery and his son had committed suicide. In fact the day of the crash was the first anniversary of his son’s suicide.
@@paugasolina5048I'm sure you don't drive cars too because fatal car crashes are more frequent than plane crashes. Do yourself a favour and stop being an ign0ramus
What a perfect storm that led to a disaster. The nental illness. Only 2 pilots in the cockpit. The door locking mechanism. The privacy laws of Germany...many steps could have been made to prevent this from happening but sadly not before it took many lives.
@@jessieball6195Not having privacy laws means he wouldn’t have gone to the therapist in the first place. All it would’ve done is accelerate this incident
So tragic for all involved. It must have been a horrific last 30 seconds for the passengers and pilot who tried to re-enter the cockpit, knowing the plane was doomed.
The feeling of helplessness that the pilot outside must have felt has to be unbearable. Imagine him seeing through the window the plane getting closer and closer to the mountains and not being able to save himself and the souls on board. Sad.
Imagine being the family member of that pilot. being saddened by the death of a family member and at the same time knowing the fact that he took the lives of 150 people...
@JohnTaylor-pg4oo while we know it’s true, I do feel for the family. I don’t think I would ever be able to believe it if it was my child who did such a thing and there was a tiny sliver of a chance it could have been something else
I don’t think the physicians realised they could actually report him for the safety of others. They were too scared of litigation of a breach of confidentiality… The FO responded with an unusual comment when the Captain left.
I think, based on my research, it was illegal at the time in Germany for physicians to report diagnoses to their patients employer. Since this tragedy, it has since been changed.
Thank you very much for uploading this documentary here on TH-cam! Although already 9 years have passed since this deliberate tragedy, I still remember it well. May the good Lord and His faithful servants rescue and save many suffering people from all suicidal thoughts and actions. Have a wonderful, blessed, and comforting Easter 2024 across the Earth!
Honestly your channel is a breath of fresh air. The moment of silence, the gentle descriptions and respect for such difficult subjects is wonderful. Keep it up❤
Yet again, another phenomenal video. Can't wait until the next one. Save the videos for my chemotherapy treatments. Keep it up, you give me something to look forward to
I appreciate your comment. Keep up the amazing videos. Gives me something to look forward to. Chemotherapy sessions are a lot more bearable watching your videos. Watching them over and over again 👍
Having suffered from depression myself and feeling so low that I overdosed twice, but I would never have wanted to harm anyone else. I can never understand how someone with mental health issues can even consider taking so many innocent peoples lives. This should never have happened, the evaluation of his mental health was flawed. He should never have been allowed to fly again.
I’m Sorry that you went through that 😔. I had been previously diagnosed with severe anxiety and slight depression (with help of CBT I’m in a better place than where I was in 2018), however this man KNEW what he was doing. And you’re right, his evaluation was very much flawed. LH knew and still cleared him to fly😒. They were as much at fault as he was.
I get that he was suicidal, and that is part of life for some people. What I can’t imagine is the idea you’d take out hundreds of other people with you. Just a selfish evil thing to do.
@@SmilesPerGallon- Generally, people with severe mental health issues aren't thinking straight. Rational thoughts such as "I don't want to take anyone else with me" aren't crossing their minds, sadly.
A scary detail is that there is a first impact noise on the black-box recording which is said to be a wing that hit a mountain before the final crash. Imagine the terror in that moment.
I suffer from anxiety and depression as well as a severe learning disability. But at no point do I want to drag others down with me. If the man really had psychosis, he many have lost touch with reality.
This goes beyond mental illness. It's very sickening that he would expire the lives of innocent, unsuspecting people. Anything dealing with mental illness along with jobs like this should require documentation and monitoring by the airline authorities.
Sorry but it's really odd to say this "goes beyond mental illness". Mental illness isn't some flowery thing. It's sometimes quite unsavoury and vile - it can make people not shower for a year, live in absolute filth, lash out at others, act erratically and violently, and maybe even forget about it later. Point is, you can't just go deciding you know where to draw the line between a poor pitiful victim of mental illness and an unredeemable sicko just because it starts to push your boundaries of "normal". This is not to justify his actions, but it really would make sense for a guy with a history of unstable depression and some psychosis to flip a switch. It doesn't mean everyone with a mental illness is harmful and crazy, but it doesn't help to act like the crazies are just evil at the core when the behavior is more than likely a result of their illness, and society is generally not adept at helping these people get better. But you would be right that there should've been better systems put in place to safeguard everyone else on that plane
It's very possible that if the LAM Mozambique 470 crash in Namibia, less than a couple of years previously had've received more media scrutiny, it could've enforced European airlines to adopt the two-person rule before this flight even took place. 150 people would've still been alive today.
Watched all your videos today, and they are remarkable. Informative, precise, detailed and interesting. I’ve learned so much from your content. Thanks for sharing. This is truly a work of art.
People get depressed, I get it. But what I’ll never understand is their need to take a whole bunch of innocent people out with them. It’s horrific! 😱 RIP to the deceased.
Yep! So, flights more than likely still have a captain and co-captain in the cockpit. However, if one of the pilots needs to leave the pit for whatever reason, a cabin crew member will enter into the cockpit until they returned.
Thank you for the moment of silence in the video. I have been almost binge watching videos like this involving human fatalities and getting more desensitized each watch, this video hit me in the face with the reality of these events. RIP to all the victims.
The sheer horror been one of those passengers onboard, hurtling towards the ground at that speed, i guess at first it would not be that obvious until it become obvious to the passengers that the pilot was unable to get back into the cockpit!
@@ALLROY240And? It should still be openable in case of emergency by authorised people. Security doesn't just mean "keep everybody out" it also means access is available when required
It's hard to shake the image of the captain pounding on the locked cockpit door, his voice full of panic and desperation. You can almost feel the sheer terror spreading through the cabin as the reality sets in for everyone onboard. The thought of the passengers witnessing their only hope-this brave, determined captain-doing everything he could to break down a door that wouldn’t budge is gut-wrenching. It’s a moment that leaves you haunted, thinking about the strength of those final attempts and the heartbreaking futility of it all.
The worst part of this is that the passengers, including the school kids, knew the plane was heading for a crash for at least 5 minutes before it crashed if not longer. That is a very long time to be terrified as the plane is taking a nose dive. I can't imagine how awful it must have been for them especially for the school kids. Lubitz must have heard them screaming but he just ignored them like he ignored the captain who was trying to smash the cockpit door in. It is the stuff of nightmares.
Honestly, why is that so hard? Since everything is electronic how hard would it be to have a system to remotely bypass all inputs and take control of the aircraft?
As someone that has 0 knowledge on regulations, so apologies if a silly question, is there no way a cockpit door could be accessed by someone on the ground?
from what i knew, after the 11/9, the door is designed this way to prevent hijackers, only - as said in the video - the pilots choose to lock it. even when locking, pilots can still open it by enter a 4-digit code and the door should be open in 30 seconds. but since the code can be leaked or be guessed, the pilot can still deny the request to open the door by lock it another time. i don’t remember exactly tho but i learnt from the MH370 video of Green Dot Aviation, check him out
Absolutely. I don't know if it applies there, but in the states therapists and doctors are mandated reporters. If there's even a chance of harming yourself or others, the authorities are notified.
One of my teachers died in an accident in Mexico in 1986 and I have never seen this story covered, would love to see it if you'd be willing. Mr. Kelly was an amazing person, I still think about him a lot. Boeing 727-264, Mexicana de Aviación Flight 940 from Mexico City (MEX) to Puerto Vallarta (PVR), Mazatlán (MZT) and Los Angeles (LAX). Monday 31 March 1986
Ultimately this is the reason why I have never hoped on a plane since. It’s not rational but this story has traumatised me. Just imagining what the passengers and the co pilote went through freezes my blood
Atleast German Wings(aka Lufthansa) & Germany Excepted the finding & Apologised. Unlike the same incident with Egypt Air where they denied its what happened and still to this day claim it was plane mechanic failure as their Religion & Culture Forbids them from committing suicide, So they said there is no way the pilot would have done that and killed hundreds of people, Truly Disgusting Attitude regarding something that is not based in Reality.
They do sort of, they have an access code. But it can be overridden from the cockpit. The thinking behind it was that what if a terrorist got the captains access key then those in the cockpit could keep the intruder locked out.
And although he was known to have physical problems, he still was allowed to fly, because nobody knew how bad it actually was. Terrible to include so many innocent people in his own death wish. It is sad that only if something terrible happens, it gets changed. As somebody who worked in Düsseldorf Airport and seeing these innocent people in the Hall of memory makes me really sad. The school class which were awaiting a great time in Barcelona, the people who flew back to family in Barcelona and all the families who left behind with a hole in the heart have my prayers. It is something never should have happened...
I remember the airline still allowed another Germanwings flight to take off from Barcelona just after they found out this one went down. And the passengers were complaining the airline was refusing to reschedule or refund. RIP to all these innocent passengers
According to the official investigation into the disaster, around the time the GPWS activated, the sounds of screaming coming from the cabin could be heard on the CVR. Unlike in other rapid descent scenarios, where the process is so fast that no one has any time to realise what was happening, the shallow angle of descent meant that the captain, cabin crew and passengers had ample time to know that the man behind the cockpit door was intent on murdering them all, and that there was absolutely nothing they could do. It’s a truly horrifying incident.
Since 9/11 it's mandatory to lock cockpits permanently during the flight and after this incident with Germanwings it's obviously the complete opposite, which should be necessary.....that means, there is very less safety in all possibilities. Very sad.....😔 Greetings from Germany....🙋🏻♀️
Massively insightful video. Pure tragedy is an understatement to describe the 10 minutes of terror experienced by those on board until the Alps impact. It really showed the glaring flaws in the aeromedical system that allowed the rogue Co pilot to slip through the net and be able to commit this heinous act of murder-suicide, and the deadlock toggle also played a part in ensuring the horrific crash would occur once the rogue was alone in the cockpit and must be scrapped to allow a truly failsafe emergency code for crew members in such a circumstance along with the rule-of-two policy that was implemented afterwards. The myopic Lufthansa CEO Carsten Spohr must also be convicted and jailed for his negligence, as Paul Bramley's father pointed out. I also think of the school students returning from their exchange trip who would never greet their parents back at home 😭, along with 12-year-old girl Emma Solera Pardo with her mother Emma Pardo Vidal and grandmother Emma Vidal Bardan, Maria Radner along with her husband Sascha Schenk and their one-year-old son Felix, and of course the lovely Marina Bandres Lopez Belio and her 7 month old angel boy Julian Pracz Bandres. Such wonderful, innocent souls who should've had their whole lives ahead of them, and may they all Rest in Peace 🕊✝💚 Finally, it is really good that you mentioned Captain Patrick Sondenheimer and the Foundation made by his wife Annika to support other children suffering grief, because after all, Patrick is the name that must always be remembered for trying his uttermost in those last few minutes to break through the hardened cockpit door and regain control of the plane in order to save those poor passengers he was duty bound to fly safely to their homes. 👼 Many thanks for this neatly balanced and poignant video that reminds us why we must Never Forget the folks of Germanwings 9525 and the importance of having a two-way security approach that properly treats mentally ill pilots and gives guarantees to regular passengers and crew that pilots are always fit to fly and committed to their job of safe flying from here to there. Cheers folks.
outside of the families of the victims, the person I can’t stop thinking about is the controller who said they could hear the copilots calm breathing. I bet that keeps them up at night. RIP to all of these people and prayers to their families 🙌🏾
I will forever and always remember the second I found out about the news. I was on the call with my friend back in 5th grade, when she suddenly told me about the crash of a German plane. I first thought it was a small, hobby plane until I turned on the news. The next schoolday, we had a minute of silence, it was the only topic here in Germany. A friend of mine used Germanwings to fly to Turkey and told me how they were, alongside another family, the only ones on the plane - everyone else refunded their tickets out of fear.
I suffer from depression myself, and honestly I can't bring myself to watch this all the way through. Your videos are uniformly excellent but I think this one would probably be too much for me to cope with.
Like the other videos, outstanding visualization of the things that happened. This showcases that depression and other mental issues are a very important matter for everyone but especially for people working in fields that handle other peoples lifes.
Was training at the mentioned training center in Arizona when this happened. Remember all the news stations that showed up. I flew the Airbus after for 6 years. We always had 2 people rule in the cockpit, but the 'psychological evaluation' was a tickbox question on my medical. Likewise I was never put through any random alcohol or drug tests over my 6 years. Always doubted the efforts made by airlines. Mental health is still to this day not taken seriously
@@Christian-xb8zeit's theorized that b/c of his religion(Muslim, I think) he wanted there to be no discovery of suicide. To avoid shame. Crazy, right?? Smh.
@@Christian-xb8ze the oxygen masks deployed in decompression events lasts 15 minutes, after that, all passengers and crew enter a slumber. By putting in coordinates far away and at an undetectable location, you would peacefully sleep and not feel the inevitable impact. That's one of the theories.
Watch Green Dot Aviations video on the Malaysian flight. He goes into incredible detail in that exact theory and why it is considered to this day the most likely sequence of events that took place.
April 30th 2024 . If you’re watching this and suffering from depression or mental illness, get help . Know that there are people out there that care about you ! Even if you think you’re all alone and you can’t take it , trust me there is ALWAYS HOPE !
Perhaps there should always be three people in the cockpit so this doesn’t happen again. There is also suspicion that captain of missing MH370 may have done same thing.
Could you imagine what it must on been like for the people on the inbound flight, flight 9524. On the pervious flight from Düsseldorf to Barcelona the Captain had also left the cockpit, but the co pilot let him back in the cockpit on the first flight. He practiced his suicide decent on the first flight while the captain had the left flight deck. Could you imagine being the passengers on the first flight knowing you had narrowly escaped death.
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@@DanielSunil-tj2pzummm, there was no misinformation in this video. He just stuck to the facts.
@DanielSunil-tj2pz I think presenter stuck to facts as they were i have severe depression GAD bpd autism posdible dysprexia many many sucide attempts and I feel it was fairly covered I vomment s,it on dries on uou tube referring yo mental health etc zbd eutnessed and been subjected to true Stigma and harassment vos of being mentally ill not on here ut by prople in my vicinity last year early on in year I was assaulted by domeone eho was verbally abu to me as well as other instances do I appreciate your concern but they were starting a fact that prople eith very severe psychotic relapse eill occasionally with thr being of unsound mind take their lives and others with them I donfvin all honesty think you xan stigmatise public anymore than the public already are stigmatised it's replies you get online which areometimes horrible snd not followed up by you tube RiP to all
There's no misinformation. As someone with lots of mental issues, I'm glad that this story is being spread. Things like this shouldn't have a chance of happening. @@DanielSunil-tj2pz
@@thecommunistdoggo1008true, I deal with anxiety but will never kill people. Every one is different 🤷🏾♂️
Could it be possible for each pilot to have their own individual private codes?
You enter a plane with absolute trust in the people who are flying the plane. This was just horrible and heartbreaking
I enter no longer planes. Period.
@@chooselife5863it’s still the safest way to travel, don’t make these videos be scared, the reason this channel exists is because it almost never happens, look at car crashes, thousands happen daily
And in the management, medical staff, et al who put them there.
9 years.. Rest in peace to all 149 people killed. 💔
This is for me is one of the hardest Air Crash stories to watch. This deliberate act is just chilling mass murder.
Same for myself it’s one thing to kill yourself which is horrible but to take so many others lives with you is horrible
@@blakeley38Malaysia air is worst
@@Curtis69213 yeah that one is most likely pilot suicide/ mass murder aswell but alot more intricate and thought out
Me too
Try Malaysian flight mh 370 suicide, this one doesn’t even compare.
I've heard to look at the flight attendants' reactions to a situation to guage whether it's a situation worth panicking over. I'd imagine seeing that the flight attendants were indeed panicking would be terrifying. But seeing _the pilot_ desperately attempting to re-enter the cockpit with futile attempts to knock the door down while the co-pilot is "unresponsive" on the other side? Nuh uh. I can not imagine that level of terror.
I always do that. No-one told me to, it is just natural common-sense.
Had to be terrifying…smh
At some point you would literally know it it was game over which is ..pretty terrifying to be sure
What's even worse for that pilot is the fact that the door is on a 30 sec time release so when the door isn't opening he damn well knows the co-pilot is deliberately preventing him from accessing the cockpit & isn't just unconscious
@@lexiburrows8127common sense for people like you and me but some people even have to be told to tie their shoe laces when they become untied
Particularly tragic for the young exchange students. I seem to remember a story of one exchange student who realised he'd left his passport behind while on the way to the airport. The host family had to return home with him to collect it and they then rushed to the airport and he still made the flight. How the family must have felt afterwards I can't begin to imagine. 😢
All their life the family will go through mental trauma .
That’s ……… oh.
Which student?
@@BABJIRAODamn. I hope everyone finds peace eventually
Respect for the moment of silence in the middle of the video.
I remember being a student at the school his girlfriend taught back when this had happened. A lot of my friends were in a class she taught and we all remembered her as being one of the „cool“ teachers. She told us about her pregnancy and everyone was so happy for her, but after this incident I don‘t think she really ever returned to teach at our school. I still remember me and my friends getting calls from news stations all around the world asking us many questions about her and whether she ever talked about private matters, which all of us were pretty freaked out about. I really hope she was able to find peace with everything she had to go through, she really was such a nice person…
That's crazy, I feel so bad for her. You think you know someone...
May you all rest in peace 🕊️🕊️🌹🌹❤️❤️🇮🇪🥺
@@Clairerooney143 you ? Who you referring to?
Just to confirm I follow. The co-pilot, who crashed the plane, was expecting a baby from his Gf??
That makes the story even more shocking. I've always been mentally healthy, but the joy I had with my baby is immense that I would have thought it would prevent someone from doing something this insane.
@@RobMedellinnot everyone finds joy in parenthood 🙄 Actually, there's a study that says that parenthood makes people more depressed due to stress and other factors
All fatal accidents are tragic - but there is something especially terrifying thinking about the people who knew they were about to die. RIP to the victims ❤
I'm remembering this tragedy very well. First we believed (In Germany and France) that something was wrong with the plane, maybe a decompression.
And suddenly the French authorities stopped to inform the press, and said they have to talk to the German authorities first. (at this point they got the analysis from the voice recorder)
I was shocked 😢
Yep, sadness and then shock in France. Impossible to process at the time -and still hard to believe
@@alicelopes4693 yes, we Germans were shocked too.
Unbelievable what he did. 😔
@@danielkaufmann15I more shocked that the hijack wasn't labeled a terorst attxk but the usual blame was put on MH because he was a Cauc. Imagine if he was an Arab, we all know he would be linked to many groups and his act would be labelled a T-attxk.
@@abstraqtphilosophy7357 He was ordered by His doctors to stay Home and get therapy because of mental health issues and hid past mental health issues from His amployer. Please inform yourself before you Play the Race Card. ITS also in the Video you supposedly watched. He once didnt get His medical examination due to mental health issues. This Case led to Public opinion in Germany shifting in favor of electronic "sick leaves" which means his doctor would have informed Lufthansa.
About the door lock, setting it on lock iirc doesn't block it from the emergency code, however once the emergency code is typed in there's a timer that will start before the door automatically opens up, a pilot can then manually, within this timer set the doorlock control on 'deny' which will then prevent even someone with an emergency code to enter - this means that despite given the multiplen chances to reconsider, he steadfastly denied entry no matter what. (I'm not sure if these control settings were already present on that airplane exactly, but it's def there nowadays)
I believe 30 seconds is that timer.
Yeah, that's the incapacitation keycode that is used for entry. Green Dot Aviation mentions it in detail in his MH370 theory which is incredibly well done.
@@AlexHurleyMusic Lubitz = In h3ll currently, getting buggered by Lucifer
Captain of MH370 = In h3ll currently, getting buggered by Aloha Snackbar
@user-vc1oz9rv6v Aloha Snackbar,,,Lmao 🤣😂🤣🤣, that is hilarious!! Funniest comment I've seen in awhile, 😂
I remember something similar happened with LAM Mozambique a year before this accident. The pilot deliberately crashed the plane in Namibia en route to Luanda. About 30 people died. He had locked the co pilot out of the cockpit when he went to the bathroom. The investigation also found out that the captain had a turbulent personal life: divorce, youngest child was going through surgery and his son had committed suicide. In fact the day of the crash was the first anniversary of his son’s suicide.
shit happens, dont fly and you will be safe
@@paugasolina5048 Apparently you can die while driving on a bridge, while on a ship, and sometimes even as a pedestrian too. Go figure.
It's not about flying bro, what about others who died is it because they were flying? @@paugasolina5048
It's speculated that something similar happened to Malaysian Airlines Flight MH370.
@@paugasolina5048I'm sure you don't drive cars too because fatal car crashes are more frequent than plane crashes. Do yourself a favour and stop being an ign0ramus
Imagine that, seeing the captain banging on door omg.those poor passenger and crew knowing what was about to happen.😢rip to them all.❤
What a perfect storm that led to a disaster. The nental illness. Only 2 pilots in the cockpit. The door locking mechanism. The privacy laws of Germany...many steps could have been made to prevent this from happening but sadly not before it took many lives.
There should be privacy laws .
If the knew they where to be reported what pilot would seek help ?
@@julienfroidevaux1143 privacy laws should NOT override the safety of passengers.
@@jessieball6195 absolutely 120% agree with you.
@@jessieball6195Not having privacy laws means he wouldn’t have gone to the therapist in the first place. All it would’ve done is accelerate this incident
Remember it could happen again at any time. And it will!
So tragic for all involved. It must have been a horrific last 30 seconds for the passengers and pilot who tried to re-enter the cockpit, knowing the plane was doomed.
Sadly it was more than 30 seconds
Totally agree ! I thought of how they must have thought .. sheer terror for those poor souls
@@Tris079it was longer i think,15 minutes or something like that
@@yeeeaaahmayneee3808i dont think it was 15. I think it was 5. Captain came back at around 09 : 35 and plane crashed at 09 : 40 im pretty sure.
@Oyjsf actually reported plunge took 8 minutes so have read it sometime ago
The feeling of helplessness that the pilot outside must have felt has to be unbearable. Imagine him seeing through the window the plane getting closer and closer to the mountains and not being able to save himself and the souls on board. Sad.
He probably wasn’t able to obtain a view of the mountains while trying to get through the door
Imagine being the family member of that pilot. being saddened by the death of a family member and at the same time knowing the fact that he took the lives of 150 people...
They are in denial and don’t believe their son done this on purpose :(
@@JohnTaylor-pg4ooreally??
@JohnTaylor-pg4oo while we know it’s true, I do feel for the family. I don’t think I would ever be able to believe it if it was my child who did such a thing and there was a tiny sliver of a chance it could have been something else
I don’t think the physicians realised they could actually report him for the safety of others. They were too scared of litigation of a breach of confidentiality…
The FO responded with an unusual comment when the Captain left.
I think, based on my research, it was illegal at the time in Germany for physicians to report diagnoses to their patients employer. Since this tragedy, it has since been changed.
Thank you very much for uploading this documentary here on TH-cam! Although already 9 years have passed since this deliberate tragedy, I still remember it well. May the good Lord and His faithful servants rescue and save many suffering people from all suicidal thoughts and actions. Have a wonderful, blessed, and comforting Easter 2024 across the Earth!
Honestly your channel is a breath of fresh air. The moment of silence, the gentle descriptions and respect for such difficult subjects is wonderful. Keep it up❤
Thanks Phil!
Yet again, another phenomenal video. Can't wait until the next one. Save the videos for my chemotherapy treatments. Keep it up, you give me something to look forward to
Thank you for your incredibly kind response! Wishing you much strength in your recovery process!
Just seen your comment. I wish you strength, hope and believe in your recovery, it's possible.
Best wishes
Daniel
I appreciate your comment. Keep up the amazing videos. Gives me something to look forward to. Chemotherapy sessions are a lot more bearable watching your videos. Watching them over and over again 👍
@@kevinlyons4545I wish you well in your recovery and hope you feel better soon. 🙏🏻
Best of luck in your recovery 🙏🏻 hope all goes well.
Very tragic event. May their souls rest in peace.
Amen
Having suffered from depression myself and feeling so low that I overdosed twice, but I would never have wanted to harm anyone else. I can never understand how someone with mental health issues can even consider taking so many innocent peoples lives. This should never have happened, the evaluation of his mental health was flawed. He should never have been allowed to fly again.
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Sorry that you went through that 😔. I had been previously diagnosed with severe anxiety and slight depression (with help of CBT I’m in a better place than where I was in 2018), however this man KNEW what he was doing. And you’re right, his evaluation was very much flawed. LH knew and still cleared him to fly😒. They were as much at fault as he was.
I get that he was suicidal, and that is part of life for some people. What I can’t imagine is the idea you’d take out hundreds of other people with you. Just a selfish evil thing to do.
Depends if you're a mistanthrope and suffer from depression, like me.
@@SmilesPerGallon- Generally, people with severe mental health issues aren't thinking straight. Rational thoughts such as "I don't want to take anyone else with me" aren't crossing their minds, sadly.
Its a moment thing. And he saw the opportunity and took advantage. Thats the only thing. I can thinknof
A scary detail is that there is a first impact noise on the black-box recording which is said to be a wing that hit a mountain before the final crash. Imagine the terror in that moment.
The plane was going at 700km/h at the end. The time between the wing strike and the "final crash" as you call it would be imperceptible for a human.
Great video as always and great voice to go with it
I suffer from anxiety and depression as well as a severe learning disability. But at no point do I want to drag others down with me. If the man really had psychosis, he many have lost touch with reality.
This goes beyond mental illness. It's very sickening that he would expire the lives of innocent, unsuspecting people. Anything dealing with mental illness along with jobs like this should require documentation and monitoring by the airline authorities.
I agree
This is already the case. Which has the effect of meaning pilots are unlikely to seek mental health support.
@@Stettafirecolleagues should be able to report signs of mental illness.
Sorry but it's really odd to say this "goes beyond mental illness". Mental illness isn't some flowery thing. It's sometimes quite unsavoury and vile - it can make people not shower for a year, live in absolute filth, lash out at others, act erratically and violently, and maybe even forget about it later. Point is, you can't just go deciding you know where to draw the line between a poor pitiful victim of mental illness and an unredeemable sicko just because it starts to push your boundaries of "normal". This is not to justify his actions, but it really would make sense for a guy with a history of unstable depression and some psychosis to flip a switch. It doesn't mean everyone with a mental illness is harmful and crazy, but it doesn't help to act like the crazies are just evil at the core when the behavior is more than likely a result of their illness, and society is generally not adept at helping these people get better. But you would be right that there should've been better systems put in place to safeguard everyone else on that plane
It's very possible that if the LAM Mozambique 470 crash in Namibia, less than a couple of years previously had've received more media scrutiny, it could've enforced European airlines to adopt the two-person rule before this flight even took place. 150 people would've still been alive today.
Ok, Captain Hindsight
That rule is being revoked in most airlines.
This is bullshit since the investigation on 470 lasted until 2016, AFTER the Germanwings crash.
Absolutely I said the same I just recently heard of this incident in Mozambique it got zero attention in the west
Thanks for the video, glad i found your channel. Looking forward to more uploads
Thanks!
A spiteful and evil act. Cannot imagine what he put those poor people through.
Watched all your videos today, and they are remarkable. Informative, precise, detailed and interesting. I’ve learned so much from your content. Thanks for sharing. This is truly a work of art.
Thanks! :) Great to hear that!
I liked and subscribed because this video didn’t ask. This was such a respectful video.
Thanks!
Da haben Sie Recht. Ich habe die Nase voll von Videos, in denen ich aufgefordert werde, sie zu liken und zu abonnieren.
Was waiting for the new video. Yet again, very high quality content ❤
Thanks!
So heart breaking, RIP to everyone of those innocent souls on that plane.
He was 27 years old, all those credentials to be tossed out. Poor passengers and crew members, the families also are suffering 😢
I love your content and the way you put these together! Thanks for explaining everything so well! My fave new channel!
New suscriber love your channel and videos😊
People get depressed, I get it. But what I’ll never understand is their need to take a whole bunch of innocent people out with them. It’s horrific! 😱 RIP to the deceased.
to be remembered somehow I guess
How can one be so heartless? Mental disorder or not, how can you possibly deserve to do something like that
If I’m right in thinking, this lead to the rule of having a minimum amount of 2 pilots in the cockpit at any one time?
Doesn’t specifically have to be a pilot, can also be cabin crew
@@NemesisFromResidentEvilthanks bud
Or even a passenger trying yo storm cockpit
It is not always enforced or adhered to.
Yep! So, flights more than likely still have a captain and co-captain in the cockpit. However, if one of the pilots needs to leave the pit for whatever reason, a cabin crew member will enter into the cockpit until they returned.
R.I.P., To All Onboard. ❤🎈🙏
I appreciate the factual presentation and the moment of silence.
Thank you for the moment of silence in the video. I have been almost binge watching videos like this involving human fatalities and getting more desensitized each watch, this video hit me in the face with the reality of these events. RIP to all the victims.
I cannot fathom being a passenger and witnessing the pilot and crew frantically trying to pry open the cockpit door.
Great video. May all its victims heal from this tragedy 😢
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This was a really tough one as many of your videos are but I am enjoying the stories and learning.
The sheer horror been one of those passengers onboard, hurtling towards the ground at that speed, i guess at first it would not be that obvious until it become obvious to the passengers that the pilot was unable to get back into the cockpit!
glad u covered this man!
The cockpit door safety system was too safe, with a flaw that allowed psychotic co pilot Lubitz, to lock out the Captain.
It's not a flaw it's for terrorists
The cockpit door lock has probably prevented more hostile take overs by terrorists than has allowed pilots to purposefully crash planes.
@@ALLROY240Yes but in this case it proved to be a problem.
@@ALLROY240And? It should still be openable in case of emergency by authorised people.
Security doesn't just mean "keep everybody out" it also means access is available when required
It's hard to shake the image of the captain pounding on the locked cockpit door, his voice full of panic and desperation. You can almost feel the sheer terror spreading through the cabin as the reality sets in for everyone onboard. The thought of the passengers witnessing their only hope-this brave, determined captain-doing everything he could to break down a door that wouldn’t budge is gut-wrenching. It’s a moment that leaves you haunted, thinking about the strength of those final attempts and the heartbreaking futility of it all.
The worst part of this is that the passengers, including the school kids, knew the plane was heading for a crash for at least 5 minutes before it crashed if not longer. That is a very long time to be terrified as the plane is taking a nose dive. I can't imagine how awful it must have been for them especially for the school kids. Lubitz must have heard them screaming but he just ignored them like he ignored the captain who was trying to smash the cockpit door in. It is the stuff of nightmares.
Great video my friend .. you made it very interesting… I’ve subbed !! Keep going ❤❤🎉🎉
Thanks!
Some many red flags 🚩.. I think all airlines should do background checks on all pilot
Background checks cannot detect potential depression
I think airlines should do now is have a separate override cabin on the airbase. The airbase will have full control over the plane if it’s hijacked.
"Override cabin?" What do you believe that is??🤷🏻♂️
Honestly, why is that so hard? Since everything is electronic how hard would it be to have a system to remotely bypass all inputs and take control of the aircraft?
This is an actual fear of mine when flying. Scary that you could be potentially at the mercy of someone like that!
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As someone that has 0 knowledge on regulations, so apologies if a silly question, is there no way a cockpit door could be accessed by someone on the ground?
No.
There was no way to access the door. But after this crash, everything changed.
@@TheUKNutter what changed? Except the rule for 2 people to always be in the cockpit?
from what i knew, after the 11/9, the door is designed this way to prevent hijackers, only - as said in the video - the pilots choose to lock it. even when locking, pilots can still open it by enter a 4-digit code and the door should be open in 30 seconds. but since the code can be leaked or be guessed, the pilot can still deny the request to open the door by lock it another time. i don’t remember exactly tho but i learnt from the MH370 video of Green Dot Aviation, check him out
Great documentation, real professional entertaining, wow! 💪
Thanks! :)
This is one of the more perfectly put together video essays I’ve seen on yt, very well done
Patient confidentiality when the person is responsible for lives of many is stupid.
Absolutely. I don't know if it applies there, but in the states therapists and doctors are mandated reporters. If there's even a chance of harming yourself or others, the authorities are notified.
Excellent channel. I love the narrator combined with the nostalgic form of animation 👌
Thanks!
One of my teachers died in an accident in Mexico in 1986 and I have never seen this story covered, would love to see it if you'd be willing. Mr. Kelly was an amazing person, I still think about him a lot.
Boeing 727-264, Mexicana de Aviación Flight 940 from Mexico City (MEX) to Puerto Vallarta (PVR), Mazatlán (MZT) and Los Angeles (LAX). Monday 31 March 1986
Ultimately this is the reason why I have never hoped on a plane since. It’s not rational but this story has traumatised me. Just imagining what the passengers and the co pilote went through freezes my blood
I really admire have you have a moment of silence in your videos for the victims; second video of yours I have seen do this. Bravo🙏🏽
Underrated channel, the video is so well made, not to mention the moment of silence for those victims. May they rest in peace
Atleast German Wings(aka Lufthansa) & Germany Excepted the finding & Apologised.
Unlike the same incident with Egypt Air where they denied its what happened and still to this day claim it was plane mechanic failure as their Religion & Culture Forbids them from committing suicide,
So they said there is no way the pilot would have done that and killed hundreds of people, Truly Disgusting Attitude regarding something that is not based in Reality.
Was also thinking the same thing.
Apologised and that makes it all right?
@@idnanyousaf6125 Yes
Kind of the like MH370 … the pilot obviously took down the plane
Pilot should have an all access key.
They do sort of, they have an access code. But it can be overridden from the cockpit. The thinking behind it was that what if a terrorist got the captains access key then those in the cockpit could keep the intruder locked out.
And although he was known to have physical problems, he still was allowed to fly, because nobody knew how bad it actually was. Terrible to include so many innocent people in his own death wish. It is sad that only if something terrible happens, it gets changed. As somebody who worked in Düsseldorf Airport and seeing these innocent people in the Hall of memory makes me really sad. The school class which were awaiting a great time in Barcelona, the people who flew back to family in Barcelona and all the families who left behind with a hole in the heart have my prayers. It is something never should have happened...
I have watched 100s of air crash investigations, but this one was the hardest to watch.🙏🏻
Agreed
The narrator on this programme is superb.who is he? A tragic recount but so well explained.Thankyou.
I can only hope that no one felt anything… this is very sad 😢
Tragic
I hate these things that I don't want to hit the like button but the video quality is incredible and narration too good. Great work. I'll subscribe.
This story gives me goosebumbs everytime
imagine how frightened the passengers must´ve been, hearing the captain panicking, seen the plane descent and the mountains closing in. Horrible death
I remember the airline still allowed another Germanwings flight to take off from Barcelona just after they found out this one went down. And the passengers were complaining the airline was refusing to reschedule or refund.
RIP to all these innocent passengers
It is also remarkable that he had tried it even before on the way from Germany to Barcelona
According to the official investigation into the disaster, around the time the GPWS activated, the sounds of screaming coming from the cabin could be heard on the CVR. Unlike in other rapid descent scenarios, where the process is so fast that no one has any time to realise what was happening, the shallow angle of descent meant that the captain, cabin crew and passengers had ample time to know that the man behind the cockpit door was intent on murdering them all, and that there was absolutely nothing they could do. It’s a truly horrifying incident.
The fact this was guy was piloting the descending plane while the people onboard were screaming is so disturbing. That's super villain level evil.
Since 9/11 it's mandatory to lock cockpits permanently during the flight and after this incident with Germanwings it's obviously the complete opposite, which should be necessary.....that means, there is very less safety in all possibilities.
Very sad.....😔
Greetings from Germany....🙋🏻♀️
After the Germanwings it’s regulated that one of the crew should takeover if any of pilots needs to leave the cockpit.
These videos are so well done
My parents knew one of the passengers aboard the airplane, so it’s a very chilling feeling to watch this documentary.
I’m sorry for your mom’s painful connection to this horror.
@@jm1657 why mom?
The one thing that cpuld prevent this from happening is 2 people in the cockpit at all time.. and they reverse that rule??? Unbelievable.
Massively insightful video. Pure tragedy is an understatement to describe the 10 minutes of terror experienced by those on board until the Alps impact. It really showed the glaring flaws in the aeromedical system that allowed the rogue Co pilot to slip through the net and be able to commit this heinous act of murder-suicide, and the deadlock toggle also played a part in ensuring the horrific crash would occur once the rogue was alone in the cockpit and must be scrapped to allow a truly failsafe emergency code for crew members in such a circumstance along with the rule-of-two policy that was implemented afterwards. The myopic Lufthansa CEO Carsten Spohr must also be convicted and jailed for his negligence, as Paul Bramley's father pointed out.
I also think of the school students returning from their exchange trip who would never greet their parents back at home 😭, along with 12-year-old girl Emma Solera Pardo with her mother Emma Pardo Vidal and grandmother Emma Vidal Bardan, Maria Radner along with her husband Sascha Schenk and their one-year-old son Felix, and of course the lovely Marina Bandres Lopez Belio and her 7 month old angel boy Julian Pracz Bandres. Such wonderful, innocent souls who should've had their whole lives ahead of them, and may they all Rest in Peace 🕊✝💚
Finally, it is really good that you mentioned Captain Patrick Sondenheimer and the Foundation made by his wife Annika to support other children suffering grief, because after all, Patrick is the name that must always be remembered for trying his uttermost in those last few minutes to break through the hardened cockpit door and regain control of the plane in order to save those poor passengers he was duty bound to fly safely to their homes. 👼
Many thanks for this neatly balanced and poignant video that reminds us why we must Never Forget the folks of Germanwings 9525 and the importance of having a two-way security approach that properly treats mentally ill pilots and gives guarantees to regular passengers and crew that pilots are always fit to fly and committed to their job of safe flying from here to there. Cheers folks.
Thank you for your detailed response, Joseph!
outside of the families of the victims, the person I can’t stop thinking about is the controller who said they could hear the copilots calm breathing. I bet that keeps them up at night. RIP to all of these people and prayers to their families 🙌🏾
Right. That part also made me feel sick. Like he was at peace in that moment ..
Very nice documentary ❤❤❤❤
Thanks!
I will forever and always remember the second I found out about the news.
I was on the call with my friend back in 5th grade, when she suddenly told me about the crash of a German plane. I first thought it was a small, hobby plane until I turned on the news.
The next schoolday, we had a minute of silence, it was the only topic here in Germany.
A friend of mine used Germanwings to fly to Turkey and told me how they were, alongside another family, the only ones on the plane - everyone else refunded their tickets out of fear.
This is the most disgusting airline accident. I heard if years ago and I still think about it every time I fly
Yay!! I asked you do this one on another video. S/o to you for giving the ppl what they want. 😂😂😂😂
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People who do things like this are incomprehensible - they seem to want to make others suffer for some twisted reason.
The abject terror of looking out your window and seeing the mountain at eye level as the plane continues to descend
This was really hard to watch. Thank you for covering this story🙏
You are so welcome
I suffer from depression myself, and honestly I can't bring myself to watch this all the way through. Your videos are uniformly excellent but I think this one would probably be too much for me to cope with.
Like the other videos, outstanding visualization of the things that happened. This showcases that depression and other mental issues are a very important matter for everyone but especially for people working in fields that handle other peoples lifes.
Was training at the mentioned training center in Arizona when this happened. Remember all the news stations that showed up. I flew the Airbus after for 6 years. We always had 2 people rule in the cockpit, but the 'psychological evaluation' was a tickbox question on my medical. Likewise I was never put through any random alcohol or drug tests over my 6 years. Always doubted the efforts made by airlines. Mental health is still to this day not taken seriously
Surreal to think this is most likely what happened to MH370 just a year previous.
Indeed. Is there a good theory as to why the pilot did not simply crash the aircraft as soon as he could, but continued to fly for several hours?
@@Christian-xb8zeit's theorized that b/c of his religion(Muslim, I think) he wanted there to be no discovery of suicide. To avoid shame. Crazy, right?? Smh.
@@Christian-xb8ze the oxygen masks deployed in decompression events lasts 15 minutes, after that, all passengers and crew enter a slumber. By putting in coordinates far away and at an undetectable location, you would peacefully sleep and not feel the inevitable impact. That's one of the theories.
Watch Green Dot Aviations video on the Malaysian flight. He goes into incredible detail in that exact theory and why it is considered to this day the most likely sequence of events that took place.
@@kalebpalmer3143Watch Mentour’s one it’s even better
April 30th 2024 . If you’re watching this and suffering from depression or mental illness, get help . Know that there are people out there that care about you ! Even if you think you’re all alone and you can’t take it , trust me there is ALWAYS HOPE !
Perhaps there should always be three people in the cockpit so this doesn’t happen again. There is also suspicion that captain of missing MH370 may have done same thing.
The bean counters and their lobbying of governments will never let that happen.
That moment of silence hit hard
Great videos mate. Keep it up
What flight sim do you use for the animations? Looks like XPlane.
As someone who has suffered with chronic depression for most of my life I can't even imagine doing something like that if I finally decided to end it.
Could you imagine what it must on been like for the people on the inbound flight, flight 9524. On the pervious flight from Düsseldorf to Barcelona the Captain had also left the cockpit, but the co pilot let him back in the cockpit on the first flight. He practiced his suicide decent on the first flight while the captain had the left flight deck. Could you imagine being the passengers on the first flight knowing you had narrowly escaped death.
I thought the same thing