I am an Elegoo Saturn 2 owner and I would like to upgrade to Phrozen Mega 8k S to take advantage of the 15-inch platter. I tried to design using the new version of Chitubox (2.0) where you can load the profile of the Mega 8kS. To my great amazement, I learned that the print time forecast, instead of decreasing (as I thought), actually doubled. According to the software, the Phrozen Mega 8kS takes about double the time to print the exact same project compared to my Saturn 2. I therefore wanted to know if it is an evaluation setting error of the Chitubox software or if the Mega 8ks is really more " slow" of the Saturn 2. (I would add that the print time data that emerges from Chiutubox is the same as what I see when I select the standard Mega 8K, so I suspect that the chitubox profile of the Mega 8KS is the same as the standard 8K. )
I think the 10s bottom exposure you got is less to do with ACF and more to do with the holes. On my saturn I can get base exposures below 10s by using long wait times for base layers to allow them to get to the proper thickness so I'm curing the correct layer height, not 5x more which usually happens because of the high surface area of the plate requiring a long time to squeeze resin to the right heights for low layers. With this printer however, despite the plate being huge, it has all those holes so it should be able to get resin to the right height for base layers without very long wait times for base layers, I think this is why you got low base exposure times to work.
Hello, greetings from Chile. I have a Phrozen Mega 8K, but it takes a long time to print and after 5 hours it takes 7 hours. Do you think I should sell it and buy another Mega 8K S? Or should I continue with the one I have? Also, the Mega 8K does not have a hole to install an air extractor. Do you think I should drill a hole to have a hole?
You do care about super fast printing. Literally anyone with a printer cares about printing faster. Its just that you dont want to lose quality and detail. If you could print 10x faster than you can right now with optimized settings and still maintain the same level of quality and detail, you would do it. Everyone would. Faster prints means projects get done quicker and you can complete more projects in the same unit of time. If you could do that at the same or similar quality.. why wouldn't you? So yeah, you do care about printing speed.. you just arent willing to trade quality and failure rate in exchange.
@@wangdennys So you're telling me if you had a printer that could print at the same resolution and LOD at 10x the speed of our current printers... You don't see that as a benefit? You don't see how that is an important metric to strive for in 3D printing? I think almost everyone would want faster print times if it came with no trade offs in quality. Even then, plenty of functional parts don't have much of any detail to be lost, and more speed just means your parts are done quicker. Time is money. Maybe you don't print a lot of things and don't care. Idk. Anyway thanks for the video. You showed a lot of stuff other people didn't go into on this machine.
@@matthewhaworth5935 Based on my experience, to me prints quality is no.1 There will always things go wrong when you speed things up, it is just physics.
that's still expensive for a single figs (not denying the quality or the work jsut in competition for my wallet with all the rest of wonddefull models) but better, If understand correctely if we take the patreon we get it for less with some others?@@wangdennys
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I am an Elegoo Saturn 2 owner and I would like to upgrade to Phrozen Mega 8k S to take advantage of the 15-inch platter. I tried to design using the new version of Chitubox (2.0) where you can load the profile of the Mega 8kS. To my great amazement, I learned that the print time forecast, instead of decreasing (as I thought), actually doubled. According to the software, the Phrozen Mega 8kS takes about double the time to print the exact same project compared to my Saturn 2. I therefore wanted to know if it is an evaluation setting error of the Chitubox software or if the Mega 8ks is really more " slow" of the Saturn 2. (I would add that the print time data that emerges from Chiutubox is the same as what I see when I select the standard Mega 8K, so I suspect that the chitubox profile of the Mega 8KS is the same as the standard 8K.
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I think the 10s bottom exposure you got is less to do with ACF and more to do with the holes. On my saturn I can get base exposures below 10s by using long wait times for base layers to allow them to get to the proper thickness so I'm curing the correct layer height, not 5x more which usually happens because of the high surface area of the plate requiring a long time to squeeze resin to the right heights for low layers. With this printer however, despite the plate being huge, it has all those holes so it should be able to get resin to the right height for base layers without very long wait times for base layers, I think this is why you got low base exposure times to work.
When i think again.
Actuallt when i first use my old mega 8k
The bottom exposure only 8s.
LOL
Now aroung 15s.
Too lazy to relevel
@@wangdennys if you are really cheeky you can just lower the z offset by 0.1mm to make lower base exposures work
@@awildtomappeared5925 but that depends on your leveling too
so useful video ! thanks !
whats the big benefit with an sonic xl 4k compared to other phrozen models??
Hello, greetings from Chile. I have a Phrozen Mega 8K, but it takes a long time to print and after 5 hours it takes 7 hours. Do you think I should sell it and buy another Mega 8K S? Or should I continue with the one I have? Also, the Mega 8K does not have a hole to install an air extractor. Do you think I should drill a hole to have a hole?
I also heard rumors that the Mega 8K will have an update to 14K
Do we need special fast resin or can we still use common resin?
I am using standard 8k resin
I was looking at your patreon and I can't see the configuration for the AQUA 8K resin for the old mega 8K
It is for active patreon.
If you are not active patreon, you could just pause the video and input manually the setting.
Reupload?
Yeah, there is some eror in the edit.
Gotta fix it, else with can cause confusion.
May I ask which bottle of resin you used in the video?
Phrozen aqua grey 8k
@@wangdennys THX，
Is adjusting the PWM value a necessary process to turn on AA?
I just bought this printer, and i'm not sure how to print fast with it. Can you point me to some instructions I could follow? Thanks
I share screenshot of my print setting in the video right?
You could copy that.
Thank you! I must've skipped that part
How does the noise rate in the "hungry cat crying" scale?
Quieter than hungry kitten 🤣🤣🤣
You do care about super fast printing. Literally anyone with a printer cares about printing faster. Its just that you dont want to lose quality and detail. If you could print 10x faster than you can right now with optimized settings and still maintain the same level of quality and detail, you would do it. Everyone would. Faster prints means projects get done quicker and you can complete more projects in the same unit of time. If you could do that at the same or similar quality.. why wouldn't you? So yeah, you do care about printing speed.. you just arent willing to trade quality and failure rate in exchange.
Hah?
Nope not at all.
Wait let me check again.
Nope, still not care.
@@wangdennys So you're telling me if you had a printer that could print at the same resolution and LOD at 10x the speed of our current printers... You don't see that as a benefit? You don't see how that is an important metric to strive for in 3D printing? I think almost everyone would want faster print times if it came with no trade offs in quality. Even then, plenty of functional parts don't have much of any detail to be lost, and more speed just means your parts are done quicker. Time is money. Maybe you don't print a lot of things and don't care. Idk. Anyway thanks for the video. You showed a lot of stuff other people didn't go into on this machine.
@@matthewhaworth5935
Based on my experience, to me prints quality is no.1
There will always things go wrong when you speed things up, it is just physics.
love the samourai womah but wayyyyy tooo expensive
Already lowered the price for you
that's still expensive for a single figs (not denying the quality or the work jsut in competition for my wallet with all the rest of wonddefull models) but better, If understand correctely if we take the patreon we get it for less with some others?@@wangdennys