I don't know how hot the take is, but if Anthrax does actually belong in the big 4. People argue for Testament, Exodus or whoever else... But in terms of actually being bigger, Anthrax is it. They're nowhere near Metallica, Megadeth, or Slayer so the better argument to me is that is should always have been the Big 3, but we have 4 and Anthrax belongs there.
The problem began when we started recording/mixing metal records like pop music. Like, not everything sounds inherently better with sampled drums, audio compression and the entire band locked into a click-track metronome.
I got friends from the periphery side of metal who can’t stand when everything isn’t a 5150 with heavy mids and perfect drums and it’s infuriating they just shoot down anything that has its own unique tone to it
Totally! The vocal harmony is heavy. It’s heavy musical intervals. Metal has forgotten that heavy isn’t just aggressive sounds and heavy mixing. It’s evil sounding intervals and such
@@Squidward_Tikiland Of course. You can sound heavy without incorporating all the essential metal elements or fitting into any metal sub-genre. Many rock and hard rock bands have done this in some of their songs.
Here would be my list of metal bands Tallah- the generation of danger Periphery- periphery 2 August burns red- death below Bring me the horizon- Sempiternal Metallica- master of puppets Converge- Jane doe Hellripper- warlocks grim & withered hags Obituary- cause of death Fuming mouth- the grand descent Pantera- vulgar display of power Sepultera- roots Carmifex- graveside confessions Brand of sacrifice- lifeblood Gojira- from mars to sirius Cod orange- forever Slipknot- Iowa Those are all metal to me, and if you don’t like clean vocals in metal, then get over it
@Warsaw1948 I must be old or out of style but I only recognize about half of those. Slipknot Hatebreed WuTang Pantera Korn and Nothingface takes me way back! Those first three albums were badass! You liked Violence more than Audio Guide to Everyday Atrocity?
Speaking of guitarists that were so legendary that they've circled around to being slept on (like Slash) - Brian May still rules SO MUCH but I almost never hear his name mentioned in "fantastic guitarist" discussions
@@Matthew_Klepadlo It's hard to come up with all the bands on the top of your mind and its easy to miss out on some. DragonForce is one of the more popular and 'stereotypical ones' but is not in themselves one of the defining bands per se. At least in more elitist circles, Helloween and Blind Guardian are the only ones really mentioned. Personally I think early Rhapsody deserves mention.
It feels like one band in particular is missing here - that is Meshuggah. In terms of "heaviness" and "thickness" they are, hands down, on Number 1. Likes of Slayer, Metallica, Pantera, NiN, all them Nu Metal bands, Gojira etc.... they are heavy, yes. But listen, even though Meshuggah writes somewhat complex songs, their sound is above everything else. The whole Album "Koloss" does also sound like it - and with improving technology, their sound just becomes heavier and heavier during each album cycle - they even managed to recreate that heaviness live. It's mind-blowing. They don't receive the credit when it comes to the question "who is heaviest" because people only name them when it comes to "Djent" or "Prog/Math Metal" questions... which is sad.
This is the same as a drug addiction you listen to metal as your main form of music eventually nothing will be really heavy anymore you have to get into some real gritty unconventional slam or avant gard noise doom or sludge stuff to get your heavy rocks off. It has not that much to do with the production of it it's more like your preference that you like less clean and produced sounds. Just like drugs take enough of them and over time you will not react the same and need harder shit to get your fix.
have to ration your self, take breaks as much as I hate triggers and overproduction, I found myself getting a nice fix from Rings of Saturn's Embryonic Anomoly instrumental version, but nothing beats the classics and giving them a 'break' for a period and then coming back to them I listened to Harvester of Sorrow for the first time in like 3-5 years the other day and YAAAA
noone did powermetal better than Blind Guardian between 90-98, its even more than obvious! BG is the only power band a lot death, thrash and black metal fans listen to as well.
Fuck, in my experience that was always Helloween, as Blind Guardian goes into the "too whimsical" kind of power metal. Most fans of death, black etc. that I've known Like Helloween, definitely NOT Blind Guardian!
"texture of the music" is exactly what I was looking for in how to describe what I was hearing becoming popularized. When the guitar isn't doing some modern industrial screeching its just indistinguishable on what its doing in the background.
The best power metal band was a band in the '80s called "Manowar". Until recently, there had been a Manowar tribute band touring the world doing half-arsed covers.
Age is sometimes everything. I agree that there was an explosion of diversity in metal in the 2000s...but to my 80s/90s saturated ears (I'm 48), they all sounded like the bands that came before, with the main differences being production values, downtuning, and that 90% of new metal bands switched to non-melodic harsh vocals (because the world apparently ran out of actual singers?). Additionally, to say that the 80s/90s metal world is limited to "10 bands" also suggests that you didn't live through it. There were hundreds of metal bands back then, to the extent that I'm still discovering new ones even though I was there when they were actively releasing the albums. I would contend that you only know about a fraction of those bands because, like me with bands from the 60s and 70s, you've primarily been exposed to the ones that have attained some sort of "classic" status. That however doesn't mean a whole lot to me because the criteria for "classic" is nebulous and subjective; for example, I could name a number of albums that I consider to be every bit as classic as say Reign In Blood or Master Of Puppets.
yeah I'm still discovering stuff from back then to this day, and STILL trying to keep up with the new at the same time, it's tough. I'm two years younger than you, there was a treasure trove of stuff from back then that can be discovered.
The transition to harshness marked the end of metal as it was. Hardcore is pretty old. And thrash. There is some old thrash that is trying to be “demonic”. Black Sabbath sounded evil. A lot of psychedelic bands sounded evil to me. More than the harsher metal that came after.
The 2000s were such a cultural moment for both gaming and metal. Everyone was blasting bullet for my valentine while playing world of warcraft together. It was such a legendary time. People say 90s were the last decade that have a personality, but the 2000s DEFINIELY also did.
There are some classic bands that are still releasing heavy tracks, like Megadeth for example. But in other hands the biggest part of them are out of game
I listened to Megadeths new album, and while it has some sick tracks like we'll be back and the song about helicopters attacking in the night, it's quite boring tbh
@@AcidifiedMammothi mean.. it was probably considered heavy once, but it's marginably more heavy than most radio rock bands today? It's barely heavy at all. Doesnt mean its bad, but I personally have never been able to consider them heavy.
Reign In Blood is still one of the most genuinely heavy albums. A lot of the earlier death metal as well, like Carcass, Morbid Angel, Pestilence, etc. You started to get a lot of caricatures of "heavy" after that
First ????? Reign In Blood Are Thrash Speed ,,,,,,,,,,,,, and for Carcass ( Death Metal ) NOT that is Grind Core Metal ,,,,,,, but i am agree with your choice ,,,,
@@LosPompadores Carcass was straight-up Goregrind on their first two albums (you know, the stuff that sounds like ACTUAL toilet sounds and gurgling), their third was just straight-up death metal, and their fourth, Heartwork, was the first where they were playing melodic death metal (and there wasnt much grind influence remaining at that point at all).
Absolutely. Nobody seems to realise that it's WHAT you play - the notes and the emotion and the vibe that make stuff heavy, NOT the sound or the technicality. Way too many people thing their guitars are berimbaus and use them as percussion instruments percussive chugging their lowest string, and it's boring as fuck. A good riff is truly heavy and good when it sound heavy on every instrument - play slayer on piano and it sounds heavy asf, play idk, meshuggah or some techdjentcore shit on piano and all you do is spam one key/note repeatedly for 8+ min straight in a weird technical polyrhythm and expect people to drool all over you because wopeedoo you're such a technical player💀.
@@AnkothOfficial if it sounds Good it sounds Good whether it's simple or technical. It's just a matter of what YOU the Listener thinks SOUNDS GOOD . Enjoy what you think Sounds Good to YOU .HAVE FUN AND ENJOY LIFE . DON'T FRET THE TRIVIAL BS.
Rhapsody was my favorite power metal band when I was a teen. Props for mentioning Lost Horizon (probably one of the best vocalists in the genre) and Galneryus (I was obsessed with Silent Revelation)
yeah I'll never forget getting the first Rhapsody cd from mail orde back in the ninetiesr, opening the booklet was like opening an old school fantasy RPG book and you couldn't help but laugh even if you loved it!
Deathcore wants Oomph. The problem is that they dont build up to the oomph. The whole song is that oomph. If you build up and get heavier over the course of the songs, then it would be so awesome.
Slash is an interesting one. He became so overrated that a bunch people started to dislike him, now he's underrated. I think (at least for me) the main problem was that since he was the pioneer of such a famous sound, it has become generic sounding. When you hear a slash solo you know it's slash from the first note. His guitar sound and phrasing doesn't really differ from solo to solo. Don't get me wrong he's a genius player, but his solos seem so overdone that it's hard to sit there and like them (for me).
That’s what happened to numetal and even post hardcore as a whole. All the successors of that once unique formula wear it out to death and make even the origin seem vapid and cringe.
Slash has a really interesting thing going on (despite me never wanting to hear GnR again in my life, save a little Night Train or It's So Easy) in that despite coming up in a scene mobbed with EVH impersonators, his primary melodic influences seem to be Brian May and Prince--both of whom are ALSO underrated curly-haired "singing lead" players. Strangely enough, the 90's guy who he seemed to pass that stylistic torch to was another (shaven) curly-haired underrated soloist--Billy Corgan.
In high school saw a girl wearing an AC/DC shirt and I said "hell yeah, what's your favorite song of theirs?" And she asked wtf was I talking about, I said AC/DC is a bad ass rock band and she literally said "I thought it was a brand of clothing" she was a preppy and bought all her clothes from Abercrombie and Fitch, or would "slum it up sometimes" (her exact words) and get stuff from Pacsun. She revealed what a snobby shit she was so I referred to her as Abercrombie's bitch from that point forward.
there was NOTHING really like the first ep or Walls of Jericho, both changed the world pretty much. Satan's Court in the Act was kind of a precursor, but Helloween solidified that power metal sound that Dragonforce seem to never give them credit for.
It’s a very dude repped space, same with the -core scene. Can’t talk about female bands, let alone ones from Japan lest you be labeled something absurd.
I find that Power Metal doesn’t keep up with what the rest of metal is doing, experimenting with different sounds and subgenres. While quality stuff is released, there’s less bands willing to break conventions than in other subgenres
The greatness of the 80s was condensed down to 10 bands or so? NOT AT ALL! There were HUNDREDS of great bands in the 80s if you look a little deeper. Most of them only released a couple albums though - but I really advice anyone to dig a little deeper into the hidden gems. Crimson Glory, Jag Panzer, Savatage, Virgin Steele, Liege Lord, and then the hundreds of awesome Thrash bands. Why do people think the 80s was all about just 10 bands?!?
Whatever the artistic field, time does a strong job at amplifying the exposure differences. On one hand, we lose a lot of good stuff, but fortunatelly almost all of the garbage.
Exactly, it's ignorant to think that the 80s was just a handful of classic bands and little else. It literally went from NWOBHM to death / black and even war metal within the same decade. Arguably the 90s was the most diverse era for metal though.
Galneryus is amazing, and the guitarist is one of the unspoken GOATS of melodies. Especially 'whisper in the something blabla sky' literally ripped off 'Still got the blues for you' but made it extra epic
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I love Lorna Shore and modern deathcore like Synesthia's Poetic Edda, but I feel like I miss the mix ups and down time sometimes necessary to create narrative flow. I know it's a meme, but the tempo changes on The Sound of Perseverance are a nice break without losing anything.
@@Drewsvids-rf1mj slayer is heavy? to me Slayer drowns in Kerry Kings absolutely horrible guitar-playing and vocals that sound more like plunging a bag of chicken bones in to a blender. There are a few memorable moments, but most of those are also just ruined by nonsense. Like the intro and first riff of Raining Blood is awesome, but then promptly ruined by chromatic babble played at high speeds and tone-deaf vocals
I think saying modern deathcore isn't heavy is slightly true, but also a bit wrong. He brought up the fact that most modern deathcore and metalcore have lots of compression to make them seem "loud". However, if you were to take away that compression by hearing it live or simply mixing the track differently, it would be much heavier. So, I have to disagree. The music itself is still heavy, its just the mix that screws it up.
I think it could be attributed to the way we listen to music nowadays - agressive, dark and violent metal isn't something to be listened in the background while chilling. Imho, metal isn't background music - it is something to be listened to, not just heard.
It's just different production techniques. Plenty of bands still use the old school production style with a raw sound to it. And there's different types of heaviness for different tastes. I like most types of metal for differing reasons.
Galneryus is relatively unknown in the west. but I've been listening to them since 2006. One of the genre's best. I apreciate the fact that you gave them a shoutout!
bro our taste in metal is so ridiculously similar. I love Opeth, I love SOAD, I love tech death, I love even bands like Suicide Sillence and I love all metal genres, but power metal is my soft spot. the truly angelic metal genre. Huge classical music aficionado as well, which is probably why.
Galneryus rules! Silent Revelation and the solos in Whisper in the Red sky are must listens. Been hooked on Moonlight Rendezvous by Beast in Black lately. And the new Amaranthe.
A lot of modern metal has the problem with being loud but having no presence. Every instrument is loud and stepping on each other. Sometimes it reminds me of a stereo without a good woofer. You can turn up the volume as much as you want, but without something producing those bass and low mid frequencies, it gonna be pretty thin sounding
Deathcore then: it's hardcore + death metal Deathcore now: is THIS the HEAVIEST BREAKDOWN EVER? [REACTION] THIS is the HEAVIEST breakdown of 2024 [REACTION] | part 3. can METAL be more HEAVY??? [REACTION] THIS breakdown is pure MADNESS!!! [REACTION]
I found a video "Scream Bloody Gore B tuning" and it sounds heavier than any deathcore I've ever heard. The album is already heavy as it is, but 1987 Death just pitch shifted down is even heavier than the 7,8, and 9 string stuff of today for some reason.
idk about older Lorna Shore, maybe you're right, but To The Hellfire and more recent era i think stands out again, with that sort of hybrid blackened death metal vibe. i am aware of what you're talking about though, modern EDM, especially Dubstep, has a "sausage" problem, but i think at least, it kind of works for the style? band Ts and black pants were my only fashion sense for the longest time, all the way into my 30s, lol... there were reasons for that though, as an autistic who had almost no self-esteem, i relied on my interests to carry my personality, so wearing clothes that didn't stand out aside from whatever logo or band art on me was all i could handle for attention from others. since coming out as nonbinary, i started experimenting with my fashion more, but i don't like "men's fashion" and i'm afraid of being hate-crimed, so i don't go out in skirts and dresses too often, have to get over my anxiety. i am biased being Millennial, but i kind of agree on the 2000s metal thing? Linkin Park and System of a Down were pivotal for me to expanding out of Rap and R&B, though i won't deny that i still liked a lot of radio rock and pop punk. even aside from Alt-metal and Nu-metal though, bands ranging from Metalcore to Power Metal, a lot of my favorite albums were in the 2000s. Dragonforce's Valley of the Damned, Sonic Firestorm and Inhuman Rampage. After the Burial's Forging a Future Self and Rareform (Reissue). Hammerfall's Crimson Thunder, Chapter V: Unbent Unbowed Unbroken, and No Sacrifice No Victory. As I Lay Dying's An Ocean Between Us. Rhapsody's Power of the Dragonflame and Symphony of Enchanted Lands Part II: The Dark Secret. Rammstein's Mutter, Reise Reise, Rosenrot, and Die Liebe Ist Fur Alle Da. Kamelot's Karma, Epica, The Black Halo, and Ghost Opera. System of a Down's Steal This Album! and Mezmerize (though the self-titled album from 1999 is still my second fave after Mezmerize, but that doesn't make the cut for this list unfortunately, lol). Dethklok's The Dethalbum. Behemoth's The Apostasy. Parkway Drive's Killing with a Smile and Horizons. Static-X's Machine. Necrophagist's Epitaph. Norma Jean's Bless the Martyr & Kiss the Child. Trivium's Ascendancy and Shogun. Sabaton's The Art of War. Avenged Sevenfold's Waking the Fallen. Cryonic Temple's Blood, Guts, & Glory. Immortal's All Shall Fall. Iron Maiden's A Matter of Life & Death. the self-titled IWRESTLEDABEARONCE EP (though i like 2013's Late for Nothing more). Maximum the Hormone's Bu-ikikaesu. Tool's Lateralus. and then maybe Blind Guardian's A Twist in the Myth, but it's not in my top 3 from them anymore. i agree with Helloween being over-rated, but i am surprised that you are so harsh about Blind Guardian. sure, not all of their albums bang, and i don't like much of anything from them before Imaginations, and i didn't like At Night at the Opera, and ever since Red Mirror i had been kind of checked out... but Imaginations, Nightfall, Twist in the Myth, and At the Edge of Time are of my favorite all time albums in Power Metal. don't like Angra, never heard of Lost Horizon, don't care for Beast in Black, Gloryhammer is amusing in small doses, and i had a short phase looking into Galneryus but i found that only a small handful of their songs hit the peak i was looking for, and they also started off more like an Alt-metal project before the Power Metal phase, lol.
Lol, calling Helloween and Blind Guardian "mid" is a terrible take. As someone who listened to them for almost 20 years I can pretty much say you didn't even hear enough of their songs to call them "mid". They basically pionereed an entirely new genre, not to mention MIchael Kiske's incredible vocals. All the bands you mentioned that "did it better" sound exactly like imitators and poor man's Helloween and Blind Guardian. I tried listening Dragon Force and it was one of the most boring bands I've heard mainly because of the fact that all of their songs sound very similar and some even the same. They're to me exactly like AC/DC and Motorhead of their genres when it comes to power metal music; very little variety in their songs and most of the stuff sound the same. Most of Dragon Force and "new power metal" stuff is just soulless wankery with same "tupa tupa" drum beat. That's 100% not the case with Helloween and Blindguardian.
one of my earlier music production teachers coined it in a way that made sense to me, that I still think about today. There should be a destinction between "heavy" and "hard/harsh" sounding. I feel like a lot of metal music has low tunings, a lot of smooth distortion, but no real depth and punch. Someone who kind of nail both feels is unironically Cannibal Corpse. They have some bits that are just fast and harsh, but also some bits that are just phat and heavy. Even tho I used to love Death, death to me isn't "heavy" for the most part.
I don't mind super compressed albums that have music I like on them. The thing about the loudness war is that some albums have come out in the red zone of mixing which I do not like, but some extreme distorted red zone memes I think are funny. I wish more modern metal bands played guitar in E standard. I know some guitarists don't consider E standard as a heavy guitar tuning though. Tuning a guitar is the worst part about owning a guitar and If I want to learn different metal songs on guitar than there might be different tunings I need to tune a guitar to or you could have multiple different guitars in different tunings. The Djent sound has made its way into almost every metal genre.
Its fair to call Helloween Heavy Metal band because they tend to change their sounds a lot. Their first album is Trash metal. The only Power metal albums they made are Keepers of the Seven Key Part I and Part II, The Time of the Oath and Master of the Ring and their latest album Helloween (tbf those are their iconic albums). The rest are progressive or just straight up Heavy metal. Kinda sad tho that you called Helloween mid. But yea Galneryus and Beast in Black are amazing
6:40 I just yesterday (for some reason) remembered this clip I've seen >10 years ago but couldn't remember the name of the band or the song to find it. Thank you, man
Deathcore is still heavy, that hasn't changed, maybe it doesn't have that rawer sound that it had before but it still holds up very well, Lorna Shore's example is from Blacknead Deathcore, the point of combining deathcore with black metal makes the riffs not sound particularly heavy, but if you keep listening to the new Chelsea Grin, Thy art is murder, etc, it's still heavy in my opinion
I disagree, I find it rather tame and overly simplistic. Anyone can do the djent thing and the only band that scratches that itch is Meshuggah and only certain songs that are more thrashy, like The Hurt That Finds You First, War, and Paralyzing Ignorance. What really scratches that fast and heavy itch is Canadian Tech Death, namely Archspire and Beyond Creation.
@@PMMcIntyre there is nothing simplistic about Lorna shore mate, that's copium. You may not like their vibe, that's perfectly fine, but saying Adam doesn't shred and makes simple music is a joke. Dean Lamb from Archspire himself has even called Adam of Lorna Shore a technical mastermind and struggled to play some of his rifffs at even 75% speed. Meshuggah might have been the forerunners of "the djent thing" but they in no way have ever been part of that whole thing. Meshuggah is no more "djent" than Sabbath is death metal. Just because it inspired it, doesn't make it the same thing.
@@nordfald3740 Dean Lamb was being humble. It always takes a while to learn someone else's stuff. You sound like an absolute f***** using "vibe" to describe the feeling of their music and saying I'm on copium. I'm not. I listen to their stuff and I'm impressed by the speed, but they completely ruin the flow of their songs with those ridiculous breakdowns, which is also cringe. Meshuggah has always been djent, what are you even talking about, lol. What followed was a bunch of copycats trying to say they are djent, but completely lack any talent, with the exception of maybe a couple of bands. Sabbath was never considered death metal, they've always been heavy metal.
@@nordfald3740 your comment is pure cringe. Dean was being humble. It always takes time to learn other people's stuff and he didn't have the time. I've listened to a lot of their songs and I'm not really impressed. They can play fast and the drummer is a beast, but the riffs aren't really that complicated. They just play them fast, giving the illusion of difficulty. Archspire's riffs are much more difficult to play, even slow. What are you even talking about? Meshuggah is literally djent and have always been djent. They literally invented the sound. Black Sabbath was never death metal, lmao
Maybe another way to put the "heaviness" argument in metal core/death core is who sounds "chunkier". I feel like a lot of bands rely on drop tuning the E and below strings of their guitarist instead of cranking more bass as a compliment to more complex guitar notes. You can just hear it in the song "Unanswered" by Suicde Silence, right away that thick bass is coming in a heavy reinforcement for those guitar notes, making it "chunkier" The new Judas Priest song "Invincible Shield" is one of the heavier songs I've heard. It's just pure, fast, heavy a$$ metal and it doesn't need to chuggachuggachug or breakdown to sound heavy
This is one of the silliest arguments people make. "BACK IN MY DAY, METAL WAS HEAVY!" Grandpa, back in your day, the only way to distort amplifiers was to turn them up so loud that they damaged everyone's hearing. That's why you're deaf, grandpa. Fact of the matter is, with all the technological advancements in guitar gear and recording gear since 1970, metal is heavier than it has ever been. In fact, we have reached the point where certain metal (and hardcore) guitar players are tuning their guitars so low that it's become hard for the human ear to discern properly. (Most humans cannot hear frequencies below the note C0 [aka "16.35Hz"].) That's how good the technology has become: that guitar players are able to, if they desire, tune their 8 string guitars to the limit of human hearing (or use pitch shifting to do the same) AND that we can mix songs such that it's not just a muddy mess when they do. That's heavy, grandpa!
I forget who said it but it was back in the 70s when Led Zeppelin and Black Sabbath came on the scene someone said "That's when the penny clicked and we realized 'Heavy' wasn't a sound but a feeling and attitude." I'd like to repeat one part of that for those in the back: "Heavy' WASN'T A SOUND. It's why for me something like The Misfits' song "London Dungeon" or Gun N Roses "Don't Damn Me" is heavier and more raw than 99 percent of death/black metal bands and all the subgenres that branch off the two, because it's not about how it sounds it's about the mood it creates and how it makes you feel when you listen to it.
I've been thinking the same for a while. To me, "heavy" is what pushes you to contract all muscles of your body and go thrashing around (and/or what increases your weightlifting capacity by about 20%). You can only go so far in terms of aggressiveness, speed, distortion, screaming etc. When you crank these things up, in general music tends to get "heavier", but if you go over the top, it just becomes more and more noise and reduces the "heavy" effect.
the whole backup dance thing at the end: have you heard of FeuerSchwanz and All For Metal? u even got the dance the girls from those bands are doing kinda right.
I like modern deathcore, I love Slaughter to Prevail and Lorna Shore, but I also think that having low tunned guitars is necessary for the music to sound heavy. For example, Cattle Decapitation, which are one of my favourite bands - yes I know they're not deathcore - but they tune their guitar to D# standard which is ridiculously high tuned for their heaviness. Also, for people who like power metal, i reccommend checking out Elvenking; they're from Italy and they are amazing
Like the good old KK Downing said. I'm here to keep heavy metal alive. "KK's Priest" Heavy metal have been a dying genre, but there is still some left like Primal Fear and others.
Whaaatttt??? Blind Guardian is goated. Honestly, I always think of them as more speed metal from back in the day rather than power metal, but I agree there are so many other power metal bands being slept on.
After I have heard all recent Thall and Banda like Darko is, Dead Vectors etc. Nothing is heavy any more. I remember 20y ago listening to Metallica and thinking this is the heaviest think ever. I feel like my „heavy progression” from 2005 to 2015 was very slow and steady and from lvl 1 I just progressed to lvl5 in heaviness, and in last 5 years from lvl 7 to lvl 25…
If we're talking power metal, my go to band atm has been Sacred Outcry and their latest album Tower of Gold where they got Lost Horizons old singer to sing for the album. An absolute banger from start to finish if you ask me
Another issue is bands thinking more tracks makes a song heavier but the opposite is true . Every time you add a track, another track suffers because you have to start scooping out frequencies to avoid frequency sharing .
I'm not really making a concerted effort to look metal, I just buy enough shirts at concerts that I don't need to ever buy other shirts besides that, so I always wear a metal shirt.
The medium wave is not an issue with just metal. Basically there came an issue where companies wanted the music to be a certain volume always basically, but how can you control the volume someone has a song in a vehicle or on a speaker. Well if the entire song is the same loudness volume then you basically control the volume people have it and for it being played on the radio. Especially so all songs fit in a certain volume always stopping people from having to constantly adjust the volume for every song. Thus almost all music now lacks dynamic range, the songs all keep the same level of volume throughout, lows are higher, higher is lower, all centre wave. On one hand it is good that you no longer have songs with parts that you can barley hear that then erupt into very loud music, so we don't deal with having to turn it up to hear then throwing it back down because you are bursting your ears. Unfortunately this removed the songs that had great dynamic range and really knew how to work with this, and now a lot of things sound muddied and the same.
to be fair cleansing was recorded all live in one room doing one takes with mitch in the middle of them screaming into a mic with a towel overr his head, youre gonna get shit audio recording but thats what gave it its heavy sound (other then how good the fucking players were, all one take but tight and consistent LIVE recording), and modern bands have a bunch of shit going on at one time so makes sense why the audio needs to be clearer to hear what ever the track calls for , lorna for example tons of distortion, on top of a bunch of symphonic instruments so that then leaves hardly any stereo field/headroom to use so makes sense why they had to compress the shit out of it and play tetris to put everything together lol
What do you think of our takes then? What are some of YOUR hottest takes??
Black veil brides are metal
Bury tomorrow up and comeing metal band
excessive amounts of death-themed lyrics are dumb
I don't know how hot the take is, but if Anthrax does actually belong in the big 4. People argue for Testament, Exodus or whoever else... But in terms of actually being bigger, Anthrax is it. They're nowhere near Metallica, Megadeth, or Slayer so the better argument to me is that is should always have been the Big 3, but we have 4 and Anthrax belongs there.
If you have clean pop vocals on a metal song I am never listening to your band again
Just not for me, man
That you were saying knocked loose new album was mixed good and then you complain about over compressed loudness war produced bands
The problem began when we started recording/mixing metal records like pop music. Like, not everything sounds inherently better with sampled drums, audio compression and the entire band locked into a click-track metronome.
I got friends from the periphery side of metal who can’t stand when everything isn’t a 5150 with heavy mids and perfect drums and it’s infuriating they just shoot down anything that has its own unique tone to it
True!
Agreed it lost the raw bleeding edge
Lots of badass death metal bands are delivering the goods right now. 200 Stab Wounds, Terminal Nation, Upon Stone and Creeping Death
@@Goose21 It don't matter what side of metal you're on, that behavior deserves a slapping,.
Alice in chains "Them Bones", is a perfect example of heavy but not over loud and still dark!
Totally! The vocal harmony is heavy. It’s heavy musical intervals. Metal has forgotten that heavy isn’t just aggressive sounds and heavy mixing. It’s evil sounding intervals and such
Creature of the wheel by white zombie is super loud and super heavy, but that's because it slows tf down enough to be groovy and doomy.
@@Squidward_Tikiland
Of course. You can sound heavy without incorporating all the essential metal elements or fitting into any metal sub-genre.
Many rock and hard rock bands have done this in some of their songs.
Here would be my list of metal bands
Tallah- the generation of danger
Periphery- periphery 2
August burns red- death below
Bring me the horizon- Sempiternal
Metallica- master of puppets
Converge- Jane doe
Hellripper- warlocks grim & withered hags
Obituary- cause of death
Fuming mouth- the grand descent
Pantera- vulgar display of power
Sepultera- roots
Carmifex- graveside confessions
Brand of sacrifice- lifeblood
Gojira- from mars to sirius
Cod orange- forever
Slipknot- Iowa
Those are all metal to me, and if you don’t like clean vocals in metal, then get over it
@Warsaw1948 I must be old or out of style but I only recognize about half of those.
Slipknot
Hatebreed
WuTang
Pantera
Korn
and Nothingface takes me way back! Those first three albums were badass! You liked Violence more than Audio Guide to Everyday Atrocity?
cha'in about me'al, innit?
*aba'
Wot
Speaking of guitarists that were so legendary that they've circled around to being slept on (like Slash) - Brian May still rules SO MUCH but I almost never hear his name mentioned in "fantastic guitarist" discussions
You can tell Blind Guardian's guitar melodies and arrangements were heavily influenced by Queen.
@@ms-06fzakuii53if I remembered correctly, they cited Queen as one of the inspirations back then.
Metal guys don’t generally like queen but soft musicians definitely talk about queen and Brian may fairly often
>Says power metal is his favorite.
>Doesn't even mention of Stratovarius.
The fucking accent makes me wanna vomit mämmi. But other than that it's good stuff
Also
>Talks about '00 metal
>Doesn't mention CoB
Or Dragonforce for that matter. Aren't these guys literally THE quintessential power metal folk? IDK
@@Matthew_Klepadlothe quintessential power metal band is Helloween
@@Matthew_Klepadlo
It's hard to come up with all the bands on the top of your mind and its easy to miss out on some. DragonForce is one of the more popular and 'stereotypical ones' but is not in themselves one of the defining bands per se. At least in more elitist circles, Helloween and Blind Guardian are the only ones really mentioned. Personally I think early Rhapsody deserves mention.
90s gotta be my fav metal decade, death and black metal were popping off
It feels like one band in particular is missing here - that is Meshuggah.
In terms of "heaviness" and "thickness" they are, hands down, on Number 1. Likes of Slayer, Metallica, Pantera, NiN, all them Nu Metal bands, Gojira etc.... they are heavy, yes. But listen, even though Meshuggah writes somewhat complex songs, their sound is above everything else. The whole Album "Koloss" does also sound like it - and with improving technology, their sound just becomes heavier and heavier during each album cycle - they even managed to recreate that heaviness live. It's mind-blowing. They don't receive the credit when it comes to the question "who is heaviest" because people only name them when it comes to "Djent" or "Prog/Math Metal" questions... which is sad.
The stream for this was like 3 months ago
He Uploaded It And He Took It Down And Now He ReUploaded It
Yes, I thought I was losing my mind. Thank you
@@randomdude2531turns out he's just losing his mind.
Yeah I had to reupload due to some bullshit copyright stuff RIP
@@BradleyHallGuitar ah ok by the way… trivium please??
i think i’m the only huge Iced Earth fan in the world, but i love their darker take on power metal
Not the only one.
Still my favorite band. Them and blind guardian both have the best power metal crossover sound imo
@@stefvanroey8191Demons & Wizards never misses
Iced Earth - Greenface
Dark Saga is one of my all time favorites 🤘💀🤘
This is the same as a drug addiction you listen to metal as your main form of music eventually nothing will be really heavy anymore you have to get into some real gritty unconventional slam or avant gard noise doom or sludge stuff to get your heavy rocks off. It has not that much to do with the production of it it's more like your preference that you like less clean and produced sounds. Just like drugs take enough of them and over time you will not react the same and need harder shit to get your fix.
have to ration your self, take breaks
as much as I hate triggers and overproduction, I found myself getting a nice fix from Rings of Saturn's Embryonic Anomoly instrumental version, but
nothing beats the classics and giving them a 'break' for a period and then coming back to them
I listened to Harvester of Sorrow for the first time in like 3-5 years the other day and YAAAA
still doesn't get heavier than Soulfly - Primitive album for me
noone did powermetal better than Blind Guardian between 90-98, its even more than obvious! BG is the only power band a lot death, thrash and black metal fans listen to as well.
Blind Guardian are the goats
Fuck, in my experience that was always Helloween, as Blind Guardian goes into the "too whimsical" kind of power metal. Most fans of death, black etc. that I've known Like Helloween, definitely NOT Blind Guardian!
@@MoonOvIce the early 90's albums from Blind Guardian were more trashy and straight forward. I love them even though I can't stand modern power metal
Lost in the twilight hall!
I dunno, I think sonata Arctica held up pretty strong
How metal is not heavy anymore.
My iron bar is still heavy
Iron Bar…bell?🤔
lift it more, it bceomes lighter
"texture of the music" is exactly what I was looking for in how to describe what I was hearing becoming popularized. When the guitar isn't doing some modern industrial screeching its just indistinguishable on what its doing in the background.
”Heir Apparent” by Opeth is heavier than 99% of deathcore and it’s in standard tuning.
Absolutely
I was so happy to see you mention Galneryus in the Power Metal segment
Everybody's talkin' 'bout the new sound.
Funny, but it's still rock and roll to me.
Hot funk, cool punk, even if its old junk
Alright grandpa, let's get you to bed
@@pulsar676 but I haven't finished my pudding, and Matlock just started.
I never liked Billy Joel's music all that much other than his band Atilla, but his lyrics were always pretty rad
At least he's not an elitist. Different sub-genres are equal under that line of thinking. Taste is a matter of opinion
The best power metal band was a band in the '80s called "Manowar". Until recently, there had been a Manowar tribute band touring the world doing half-arsed covers.
Age is sometimes everything. I agree that there was an explosion of diversity in metal in the 2000s...but to my 80s/90s saturated ears (I'm 48), they all sounded like the bands that came before, with the main differences being production values, downtuning, and that 90% of new metal bands switched to non-melodic harsh vocals (because the world apparently ran out of actual singers?).
Additionally, to say that the 80s/90s metal world is limited to "10 bands" also suggests that you didn't live through it. There were hundreds of metal bands back then, to the extent that I'm still discovering new ones even though I was there when they were actively releasing the albums. I would contend that you only know about a fraction of those bands because, like me with bands from the 60s and 70s, you've primarily been exposed to the ones that have attained some sort of "classic" status. That however doesn't mean a whole lot to me because the criteria for "classic" is nebulous and subjective; for example, I could name a number of albums that I consider to be every bit as classic as say Reign In Blood or Master Of Puppets.
yeah I'm still discovering stuff from back then to this day, and STILL trying to keep up with the new at the same time, it's tough. I'm two years younger than you, there was a treasure trove of stuff from back then that can be discovered.
ok boomer
@@joshuabridges1597 You might want to do a bit of research. I gave you my age after all.
@@joshuabridges1597 He can't be a boomer with that age, try and keep up.
The transition to harshness marked the end of metal as it was. Hardcore is pretty old. And thrash. There is some old thrash that is trying to be “demonic”. Black Sabbath sounded evil. A lot of psychedelic bands sounded evil to me. More than the harsher metal that came after.
The 2000s were such a cultural moment for both gaming and metal. Everyone was blasting bullet for my valentine while playing world of warcraft together. It was such a legendary time. People say 90s were the last decade that have a personality, but the 2000s DEFINIELY also did.
ORNAGE JUICE
There are some classic bands that are still releasing heavy tracks, like Megadeth for example. But in other hands the biggest part of them are out of game
I listened to Megadeths new album, and while it has some sick tracks like we'll be back and the song about helicopters attacking in the night, it's quite boring tbh
Megadeth has never been heavy.
@@maynardburgerYeah sure lol, next thing you're gonna tell me is Megadeth makes pop music.
@@AcidifiedMammothi mean.. it was probably considered heavy once, but it's marginably more heavy than most radio rock bands today? It's barely heavy at all. Doesnt mean its bad, but I personally have never been able to consider them heavy.
@@AcidifiedMammoth
Nah, he's going to tell cheeseburger do not have cheese in it.
Fcking gatekeeping. I hate these elitists.
😂😂😂
Breakdowns use to be HOLY SH*T!! Now it’s like oh there’s the token breakdown 🥱
Reign In Blood is still one of the most genuinely heavy albums. A lot of the earlier death metal as well, like Carcass, Morbid Angel, Pestilence, etc. You started to get a lot of caricatures of "heavy" after that
First ????? Reign In Blood Are Thrash Speed ,,,,,,,,,,,,, and for Carcass ( Death Metal ) NOT that is Grind Core Metal ,,,,,,, but i am agree with your choice ,,,,
@@dannywaysted I didn't call Slayer Death Metal. Carcass genre is debatable. It's grind core but also melodic death metal.
@@LosPompadores Carcass was straight-up Goregrind on their first two albums (you know, the stuff that sounds like ACTUAL toilet sounds and gurgling), their third was just straight-up death metal, and their fourth, Heartwork, was the first where they were playing melodic death metal (and there wasnt much grind influence remaining at that point at all).
Pantera ruled the 90’s for a reason after Metallica became unheavy, started with Vulgar Display of Power
Personally, Godflesh's Streetcleaner was the pinnacle of heavy, along with Terrorizer's 'World Downfall'
Gojira playing the Drag Olympics in Paris is the icing on the cake that that music is not heavy
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Weird thing is that bands think they are heavy because the have guitars with eight strings. Reign in Blood are heavier than all of them.
I go 6 string drop d . Lowest I go is Drop C and also Standard
Absolutely. Nobody seems to realise that it's WHAT you play - the notes and the emotion and the vibe that make stuff heavy, NOT the sound or the technicality. Way too many people thing their guitars are berimbaus and use them as percussion instruments percussive chugging their lowest string, and it's boring as fuck. A good riff is truly heavy and good when it sound heavy on every instrument - play slayer on piano and it sounds heavy asf, play idk, meshuggah or some techdjentcore shit on piano and all you do is spam one key/note repeatedly for 8+ min straight in a weird technical polyrhythm and expect people to drool all over you because wopeedoo you're such a technical player💀.
@@AnkothOfficial if it sounds Good it sounds Good whether it's simple or technical. It's just a matter of what YOU the Listener thinks SOUNDS GOOD . Enjoy what you think Sounds Good to YOU .HAVE FUN AND ENJOY LIFE . DON'T FRET THE TRIVIAL BS.
Why, thank you ....
huh i always thought people had different opinions… but i guess reign in blood is the heaviest album ever 🤷🏼♂️
Rhapsody was my favorite power metal band when I was a teen.
Props for mentioning Lost Horizon (probably one of the best vocalists in the genre) and Galneryus (I was obsessed with Silent Revelation)
Rhapsody are legends!
yeah I'll never forget getting the first Rhapsody cd from mail orde back in the ninetiesr, opening the booklet was like opening an old school fantasy RPG book and you couldn't help but laugh even if you loved it!
More Galneryus songs to try:
1. Destiny
2. The Followers
3. Struggle for Freedom Flag
4. Heavy Curse
5. Point of no return
Deathcore wants Oomph. The problem is that they dont build up to the oomph. The whole song is that oomph. If you build up and get heavier over the course of the songs, then it would be so awesome.
Galneryus is probably my favorite power metal. I'm surprised it was mentioned.
Slash is an interesting one. He became so overrated that a bunch people started to dislike him, now he's underrated. I think (at least for me) the main problem was that since he was the pioneer of such a famous sound, it has become generic sounding. When you hear a slash solo you know it's slash from the first note. His guitar sound and phrasing doesn't really differ from solo to solo. Don't get me wrong he's a genius player, but his solos seem so overdone that it's hard to sit there and like them (for me).
I can't even with sweet child on mine its awesome but I would never learn how to play it bc it's so fuckin over played.
That’s what happened to numetal and even post hardcore as a whole. All the successors of that once unique formula wear it out to death and make even the origin seem vapid and cringe.
That's what happens when you become more image that musician. According to South he's no more real than Santa.
@@poulwinther I see why tbf. He really is more of an image, honestly I hear the name slash I think more about him rather than his guitar playing.
Slash has a really interesting thing going on (despite me never wanting to hear GnR again in my life, save a little Night Train or It's So Easy) in that despite coming up in a scene mobbed with EVH impersonators, his primary melodic influences seem to be Brian May and Prince--both of whom are ALSO underrated curly-haired "singing lead" players. Strangely enough, the 90's guy who he seemed to pass that stylistic torch to was another (shaven) curly-haired underrated soloist--Billy Corgan.
Lyrical heavy vs instrumentally heavy
"heavy" has to do with subconscious energy, not "low notes" or "production"
Nah dude. Any genre of music someone is wearing band shirts when they don't even listen is wrong. Lol.
In high school saw a girl wearing an AC/DC shirt and I said "hell yeah, what's your favorite song of theirs?" And she asked wtf was I talking about, I said AC/DC is a bad ass rock band and she literally said "I thought it was a brand of clothing" she was a preppy and bought all her clothes from Abercrombie and Fitch, or would "slum it up sometimes" (her exact words) and get stuff from Pacsun. She revealed what a snobby shit she was so I referred to her as Abercrombie's bitch from that point forward.
I'm so glad glad you brought up Beast in Black. I love that band.
It‘s because Helloween and Blind Guardian are the GOATS of the genre for a reason!
Nah
H is cheesy
They are
there was NOTHING really like the first ep or Walls of Jericho, both changed the world pretty much. Satan's Court in the Act was kind of a precursor, but Helloween solidified that power metal sound that Dragonforce seem to never give them credit for.
@@themadmattster9647I love the EP and Walls of Jericho. Very speed metal.
Is this reuploaded?
I think so I got a notification for this vid like a month ago but it only appeared on my notifications and not on his channel
I think he had some copyright stuff to sort with it so had to take it down.
Among my favourite power metal bands are Warkings, Beast in Black and early Nightwish.
Beast in Black live are...well, beasts! Amazing!
Power metal talk without Lovebites?! Confused noises*
It’s a very dude repped space, same with the -core scene. Can’t talk about female bands, let alone ones from Japan lest you be labeled something absurd.
Avantasia is a great power metal band
I find that Power Metal doesn’t keep up with what the rest of metal is doing, experimenting with different sounds and subgenres. While quality stuff is released, there’s less bands willing to break conventions than in other subgenres
Metal is still heavy to me
It's heavier than ever
Eye of Solitude: Canto 3 , Tideless and Dream Unending solos are beyond insane
The greatness of the 80s was condensed down to 10 bands or so?
NOT AT ALL! There were HUNDREDS of great bands in the 80s if you look a little deeper.
Most of them only released a couple albums though - but I really advice anyone to dig a little deeper into the hidden gems. Crimson Glory, Jag Panzer, Savatage, Virgin Steele, Liege Lord, and then the hundreds of awesome Thrash bands.
Why do people think the 80s was all about just 10 bands?!?
Whatever the artistic field, time does a strong job at amplifying the exposure differences. On one hand, we lose a lot of good stuff, but fortunatelly almost all of the garbage.
Exactly, it's ignorant to think that the 80s was just a handful of classic bands and little else. It literally went from NWOBHM to death / black and even war metal within the same decade. Arguably the 90s was the most diverse era for metal though.
Ah, another based USPM enjoyer
Sword, Chastain, Manilla Road, Grim Reaper, Omen, Vicious Rumors, Medieval Steel, Cirith Ungol, Attacker, Powermad
Cuz they’re lazy. Same reason why people think modern stuff is bad.
Galneryus is amazing, and the guitarist is one of the unspoken GOATS of melodies. Especially 'whisper in the something blabla sky' literally ripped off 'Still got the blues for you' but made it extra epic
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Three beanpots used for cooking homemade baked beans. The small one is glazed with the letters "Boston Baked Beans".
According to chef and food historian Walter Staib of Philadelphia's City Tavern, baked beans had their roots as a Native peoples dish in the Americas long before the dish became known to Western culture.[8] In the northeast of America various Native American peoples, including the Iroquois, the Narragansett and the Penobscot,[9] mixed beans, maple sugar, and bear fat in earthenware pots which they placed in pits called "bean holes" which were lined in hot rocks to cook slowly over a long period of time.[8][10]
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While some historians have theorized that baked beans had originated from the cassoulet or bean stew tradition in Southern France, this is unlikely as the beans used to make baked beans are all native to North America and were introduced to Europe around 1528.[12] However, it is likely that English colonists used their knowledge of cassoulet cooking to modify the cooking technique of the beans from the traditional Native American version, by soaking the bean overnight and simmering the beans over a fire before baking it in earthen pots in order to decrease the cooking time.[13]
A dish which was a clear precursor to baked beans, entitled "beans and bacon", was known in medieval England.[14] The addition of onion and mustard to some baked beans recipes published in New England in the 19th century was likely based on traditional cassoulet recipes from Staffordshire, England, which utilized mustard, beans, and leeks.[13] These ingredients are still often added to baked beans today.[13] Nineteenth-century cookbooks published in New England, spread to other portions of the United States and Canada, which familiarized other people with the dish.[13]
While many recipes today are stewed, traditionally dried beans were soaked overnight, simmered until tender (parboiled), and then slow-baked in a ceramic or cast-iron beanpot.[3] Originally baked beans were sweetened with maple syrup by Native Americans, a tradition some recipes still follow, but some English colonists modified the sweetening agent to brown sugar beginning in the 17th century.[14] In the 18th century the convention of using American made molasses as a sweetening agent became increasingly popular in order to avoid British taxes on sugar.[14] The molasses style of baked beans has become closely associated with the city of Boston and is often referred to as Boston baked beans.[15]
Today in the New England region, baked beans are flavored either with maple syrup (Northern New England), or with molasses (Boston), and are traditionally cooked with salt pork in a beanpot in a brick oven for six to eight hours.[15] In the absence of a brick oven, the beans were cooked in a beanpot nestled in a bed of embers placed near the outer edges of a hearth, about a foot away from the fire. Today, baked beans can be made in a slow cooker or in a modern oven using a traditional beanpot, Dutch oven, or casserole dish.[13] Regardless of cooking method, the results of the dish, commonly described as having a savory-sweet flavor and a brownish- or reddish-tinted white bean, are the same.[8]
A tradition in Maine of "bean hole" cooking may have originated with the native Penobscot people and was later practiced in logging camps. A fire would be made in a stone-lined pit and allowed to burn down to hot coals, and then a pot with 11[16] pounds of seasoned beans would be placed in the ashes, covered over with dirt, and left to cook overnight or longer. These beans were a staple of Maine's logging camps, served at every meal.[17][18]
Baked beans made with BBQ sauce, brown sugar, cider vinegar, Dijon mustard and sliced bacon
While baked beans was initially a New England region cuisine, the dish has become a popular item throughout the United States; and is now a staple item served most frequently along various types of barbecue and at picnics.[19] This is due in part to the ease of handling, as they can be served hot or cold, directly from the can, making them handy for outdoor eating. The tomato-based sweet sauce also complements many types of barbecue. The already-cooked beans may also be baked in a casserole dish topped with slices of raw bacon, which is baked until the bacon is cooked. Additional seasonings are sometimes used, such as additional brown sugar or mustard to make the sauce more tangy.[7]
Canned beans
Canned beans, often containing pork, were among the first convenience foods, and were exported and popularised by U.S. companies internationally in the early 20th century.[20] The American Food and Drug Administration stated in 1996: "It has for years been recognized by consumers generally that the designation 'beans with pork,' or 'pork and beans' is the common or usual name for an article of commerce that contains very little pork." The included pork is typically a piece of salt pork that adds fat to the dish.[21]
The first mass-produced commercial canning of baked beans in the United States began in 1895 by the Pennsylvania-based H. J. Heinz Company.[5] Heinz was also the first company to sell baked beans outside of the United States, beginning with sales limited solely to Fortnum & Mason in 1886, when the item was considered a luxury.[22] They began selling baked beans throughout the UK in 1901, and baked beans became a standard part of the English full breakfast soon after.[5] Heinz removed pork from the product during the Second World War rationing.[23]
Baked beans on sourdough toast, served in a café in London, England
Originally, Heinz Baked Beans were prepared in the traditional United States manner for sales in Ireland and Great Britain. Over time, the recipe was altered to a less sweet tomato sauce without maple syrup, molasses, or brown sugar to appeal to the tastes of the United Kingdom.[20] This is the version of baked beans most commonly eaten outside of the United States. Baked beans are commonly eaten on toast ("beans on toast") or as part of a full breakfast.[20] Heinz Baked Beans remains the best-selling brand in the UK.[24] The Baked Bean Museum of Excellence in Port Talbot, Wales, is dedicated to baked beans.[25]
In 2002, the British Dietetic Association allowed manufacturers of canned baked beans to advertise the product as contributing to the recommended daily consumption of five to six vegetables per person. This concession was criticised by heart specialists, who pointed to the high levels of sugar and salt in the product. However, it has been proven that consumption of baked beans does indeed lower total cholesterol levels and low-density lipoprotein cholesterol, even in normo-cholesterolaemic individuals.[26][27] Some manufacturers produce a "healthy" version of the product with reduced levels of sugar and salt.[28]
That was epic.
Neat
Bruh why
I love Lorna Shore and modern deathcore like Synesthia's Poetic Edda, but I feel like I miss the mix ups and down time sometimes necessary to create narrative flow. I know it's a meme, but the tempo changes on The Sound of Perseverance are a nice break without losing anything.
Not mentioning Unleash The Archers :(
my mom thinks that guns n roses are heavy
She should take a listen to slayer
@@Drewsvids-rf1mj slayer is heavy? to me Slayer drowns in Kerry Kings absolutely horrible guitar-playing and vocals that sound more like plunging a bag of chicken bones in to a blender. There are a few memorable moments, but most of those are also just ruined by nonsense. Like the intro and first riff of Raining Blood is awesome, but then promptly ruined by chromatic babble played at high speeds and tone-deaf vocals
Some of their songs are. They have a really dirty, bluesy rock sound.
@@nordfald3740 ok bro whatever you say
I think saying modern deathcore isn't heavy is slightly true, but also a bit wrong. He brought up the fact that most modern deathcore and metalcore have lots of compression to make them seem "loud". However, if you were to take away that compression by hearing it live or simply mixing the track differently, it would be much heavier. So, I have to disagree. The music itself is still heavy, its just the mix that screws it up.
Hard agree on the knocked loose production. Sounds brutal
I think it could be attributed to the way we listen to music nowadays - agressive, dark and violent metal isn't something to be listened in the background while chilling. Imho, metal isn't background music - it is something to be listened to, not just heard.
0:24 I think deathcore is death metal if it was half assed. Edit: I’m talking about new deathcore, don’t crucify me
> Metalcore
> "Lamb of God"
Sure man.
They are often either considered Metalcore or Groove metal. They have a lot of tendencies for both.
groove/metalcore with god awful vocals
@@putridabomination what?
What???
@@putridabominationyou think Randy sucks?!
@@Dotthedese 50/50, he's a good guy but not a vocalist I enjoy
It's just different production techniques. Plenty of bands still use the old school production style with a raw sound to it. And there's different types of heaviness for different tastes. I like most types of metal for differing reasons.
Chat Pile makes Slaughter to prevail sound like Enya
Slash is so great because he's the only one who actually has the ideas that everyone thinks they have
Galneryus is relatively unknown in the west. but I've been listening to them since 2006. One of the genre's best. I apreciate the fact that you gave them a shoutout!
Didn't you make this before?
Does symphony x count as power metal?
Yes, progressive power metal to be exact
I haven't kept up, but back in the 90s they were mainly seen as (neoclassical) progressive metal.
bro our taste in metal is so ridiculously similar. I love Opeth, I love SOAD, I love tech death, I love even bands like Suicide Sillence and I love all metal genres, but power metal is my soft spot. the truly angelic metal genre. Huge classical music aficionado as well, which is probably why.
Bro slaughter to prevail is fucking heavy fym💀
Nah, not heavy
Very overproduced, takes away from heaviness.
@@arrebarre900 kinda
@@ИапГоревич yes, heavy
@@ИапГоревич then what is? cause to me, this sounds like nonsense
@BradleyHallGuitar , what type of Kemper are you using? Looking at buying one.
Galneryus rules! Silent Revelation and the solos in Whisper in the Red sky are must listens. Been hooked on Moonlight Rendezvous by Beast in Black lately. And the new Amaranthe.
A lot of modern metal has the problem with being loud but having no presence. Every instrument is loud and stepping on each other. Sometimes it reminds me of a stereo without a good woofer. You can turn up the volume as much as you want, but without something producing those bass and low mid frequencies, it gonna be pretty thin sounding
Deathcore then: it's hardcore + death metal
Deathcore now:
is THIS the HEAVIEST BREAKDOWN EVER? [REACTION]
THIS is the HEAVIEST breakdown of 2024 [REACTION] | part 3.
can METAL be more HEAVY??? [REACTION]
THIS breakdown is pure MADNESS!!! [REACTION]
I found a video "Scream Bloody Gore B tuning" and it sounds heavier than any deathcore I've ever heard. The album is already heavy as it is, but 1987 Death just pitch shifted down is even heavier than the 7,8, and 9 string stuff of today for some reason.
I personally find the obsession of some with breakdown in metal kinda unattractive, to say the least.
idk about older Lorna Shore, maybe you're right, but To The Hellfire and more recent era i think stands out again, with that sort of hybrid blackened death metal vibe. i am aware of what you're talking about though, modern EDM, especially Dubstep, has a "sausage" problem, but i think at least, it kind of works for the style? band Ts and black pants were my only fashion sense for the longest time, all the way into my 30s, lol...
there were reasons for that though, as an autistic who had almost no self-esteem, i relied on my interests to carry my personality, so wearing clothes that didn't stand out aside from whatever logo or band art on me was all i could handle for attention from others. since coming out as nonbinary, i started experimenting with my fashion more, but i don't like "men's fashion" and i'm afraid of being hate-crimed, so i don't go out in skirts and dresses too often, have to get over my anxiety.
i am biased being Millennial, but i kind of agree on the 2000s metal thing? Linkin Park and System of a Down were pivotal for me to expanding out of Rap and R&B, though i won't deny that i still liked a lot of radio rock and pop punk. even aside from Alt-metal and Nu-metal though, bands ranging from Metalcore to Power Metal, a lot of my favorite albums were in the 2000s.
Dragonforce's Valley of the Damned, Sonic Firestorm and Inhuman Rampage. After the Burial's Forging a Future Self and Rareform (Reissue). Hammerfall's Crimson Thunder, Chapter V: Unbent Unbowed Unbroken, and No Sacrifice No Victory. As I Lay Dying's An Ocean Between Us. Rhapsody's Power of the Dragonflame and Symphony of Enchanted Lands Part II: The Dark Secret. Rammstein's Mutter, Reise Reise, Rosenrot, and Die Liebe Ist Fur Alle Da.
Kamelot's Karma, Epica, The Black Halo, and Ghost Opera. System of a Down's Steal This Album! and Mezmerize (though the self-titled album from 1999 is still my second fave after Mezmerize, but that doesn't make the cut for this list unfortunately, lol). Dethklok's The Dethalbum. Behemoth's The Apostasy. Parkway Drive's Killing with a Smile and Horizons. Static-X's Machine. Necrophagist's Epitaph. Norma Jean's Bless the Martyr & Kiss the Child.
Trivium's Ascendancy and Shogun. Sabaton's The Art of War. Avenged Sevenfold's Waking the Fallen. Cryonic Temple's Blood, Guts, & Glory. Immortal's All Shall Fall. Iron Maiden's A Matter of Life & Death. the self-titled IWRESTLEDABEARONCE EP (though i like 2013's Late for Nothing more). Maximum the Hormone's Bu-ikikaesu. Tool's Lateralus. and then maybe Blind Guardian's A Twist in the Myth, but it's not in my top 3 from them anymore.
i agree with Helloween being over-rated, but i am surprised that you are so harsh about Blind Guardian. sure, not all of their albums bang, and i don't like much of anything from them before Imaginations, and i didn't like At Night at the Opera, and ever since Red Mirror i had been kind of checked out... but Imaginations, Nightfall, Twist in the Myth, and At the Edge of Time are of my favorite all time albums in Power Metal.
don't like Angra, never heard of Lost Horizon, don't care for Beast in Black, Gloryhammer is amusing in small doses, and i had a short phase looking into Galneryus but i found that only a small handful of their songs hit the peak i was looking for, and they also started off more like an Alt-metal project before the Power Metal phase, lol.
Lol, calling Helloween and Blind Guardian "mid" is a terrible take. As someone who listened to them for almost 20 years I can pretty much say you didn't even hear enough of their songs to call them "mid". They basically pionereed an entirely new genre, not to mention MIchael Kiske's incredible vocals. All the bands you mentioned that "did it better" sound exactly like imitators and poor man's Helloween and Blind Guardian. I tried listening Dragon Force and it was one of the most boring bands I've heard mainly because of the fact that all of their songs sound very similar and some even the same. They're to me exactly like AC/DC and Motorhead of their genres when it comes to power metal music; very little variety in their songs and most of the stuff sound the same. Most of Dragon Force and "new power metal" stuff is just soulless wankery with same "tupa tupa" drum beat. That's 100% not the case with Helloween and Blindguardian.
"as someone who is a blind fanboy, i can say you do not have a right to your opinion" - Holy shit, this read like a joke
one of my earlier music production teachers coined it in a way that made sense to me, that I still think about today. There should be a destinction between "heavy" and "hard/harsh" sounding. I feel like a lot of metal music has low tunings, a lot of smooth distortion, but no real depth and punch. Someone who kind of nail both feels is unironically Cannibal Corpse. They have some bits that are just fast and harsh, but also some bits that are just phat and heavy. Even tho I used to love Death, death to me isn't "heavy" for the most part.
Didn't you already make a video version of this stream?
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I don't mind super compressed albums that have music I like on them. The thing about the loudness war is that some albums have come out in the red zone of mixing which I do not like, but some extreme distorted red zone memes I think are funny. I wish more modern metal bands played guitar in E standard. I know some guitarists don't consider E standard as a heavy guitar tuning though. Tuning a guitar is the worst part about owning a guitar and If I want to learn different metal songs on guitar than there might be different tunings I need to tune a guitar to or you could have multiple different guitars in different tunings. The Djent sound has made its way into almost every metal genre.
Its fair to call Helloween Heavy Metal band because they tend to change their sounds a lot. Their first album is Trash metal. The only Power metal albums they made are Keepers of the Seven Key Part I and Part II, The Time of the Oath and Master of the Ring and their latest album Helloween (tbf those are their iconic albums). The rest are progressive or just straight up Heavy metal. Kinda sad tho that you called Helloween mid. But yea Galneryus and Beast in Black are amazing
Edguy needs more acknowledgment when it comes to power metal. They’re my favorite in the genre and one of my favorite bands overall.
God, I HATE power metal with vigor, for the very same reason I absolutely hate musicals 😂
Preach!
i understand you so well i got a band for you go listin Brtiny Spears
@@dannywaystedBritney spears is not even as cringey as power metal
6:40 I just yesterday (for some reason) remembered this clip I've seen >10 years ago but couldn't remember the name of the band or the song to find it. Thank you, man
Deathcore is still heavy, that hasn't changed, maybe it doesn't have that rawer sound that it had before but it still holds up very well, Lorna Shore's example is from Blacknead Deathcore, the point of combining deathcore with black metal makes the riffs not sound particularly heavy, but if you keep listening to the new Chelsea Grin, Thy art is murder, etc, it's still heavy in my opinion
I disagree, I find it rather tame and overly simplistic. Anyone can do the djent thing and the only band that scratches that itch is Meshuggah and only certain songs that are more thrashy, like The Hurt That Finds You First, War, and Paralyzing Ignorance. What really scratches that fast and heavy itch is Canadian Tech Death, namely Archspire and Beyond Creation.
@@PMMcIntyre there is nothing simplistic about Lorna shore mate, that's copium. You may not like their vibe, that's perfectly fine, but saying Adam doesn't shred and makes simple music is a joke. Dean Lamb from Archspire himself has even called Adam of Lorna Shore a technical mastermind and struggled to play some of his rifffs at even 75% speed. Meshuggah might have been the forerunners of "the djent thing" but they in no way have ever been part of that whole thing. Meshuggah is no more "djent" than Sabbath is death metal. Just because it inspired it, doesn't make it the same thing.
@@nordfald3740 Dean Lamb was being humble. It always takes a while to learn someone else's stuff. You sound like an absolute f***** using "vibe" to describe the feeling of their music and saying I'm on copium. I'm not. I listen to their stuff and I'm impressed by the speed, but they completely ruin the flow of their songs with those ridiculous breakdowns, which is also cringe.
Meshuggah has always been djent, what are you even talking about, lol. What followed was a bunch of copycats trying to say they are djent, but completely lack any talent, with the exception of maybe a couple of bands. Sabbath was never considered death metal, they've always been heavy metal.
@@nordfald3740 your comment is pure cringe.
Dean was being humble. It always takes time to learn other people's stuff and he didn't have the time. I've listened to a lot of their songs and I'm not really impressed. They can play fast and the drummer is a beast, but the riffs aren't really that complicated. They just play them fast, giving the illusion of difficulty. Archspire's riffs are much more difficult to play, even slow.
What are you even talking about? Meshuggah is literally djent and have always been djent. They literally invented the sound. Black Sabbath was never death metal, lmao
@@PMMcIntyretbh "Djent" isn't even an official genre, more like a meme term that Periphery coined 🤔😏👌
Maybe another way to put the "heaviness" argument in metal core/death core is who sounds "chunkier". I feel like a lot of bands rely on drop tuning the E and below strings of their guitarist instead of cranking more bass as a compliment to more complex guitar notes. You can just hear it in the song "Unanswered" by Suicde Silence, right away that thick bass is coming in a heavy reinforcement for those guitar notes, making it "chunkier"
The new Judas Priest song "Invincible Shield" is one of the heavier songs I've heard. It's just pure, fast, heavy a$$ metal and it doesn't need to chuggachuggachug or breakdown to sound heavy
This is one of the silliest arguments people make.
"BACK IN MY DAY, METAL WAS HEAVY!"
Grandpa, back in your day, the only way to distort amplifiers was to turn them up so loud that they damaged everyone's hearing. That's why you're deaf, grandpa.
Fact of the matter is, with all the technological advancements in guitar gear and recording gear since 1970, metal is heavier than it has ever been. In fact, we have reached the point where certain metal (and hardcore) guitar players are tuning their guitars so low that it's become hard for the human ear to discern properly. (Most humans cannot hear frequencies below the note C0 [aka "16.35Hz"].) That's how good the technology has become: that guitar players are able to, if they desire, tune their 8 string guitars to the limit of human hearing (or use pitch shifting to do the same) AND that we can mix songs such that it's not just a muddy mess when they do. That's heavy, grandpa!
W take
I forget who said it but it was back in the 70s when Led Zeppelin and Black Sabbath came on the scene someone said "That's when the penny clicked and we realized 'Heavy' wasn't a sound but a feeling and attitude."
I'd like to repeat one part of that for those in the back: "Heavy' WASN'T A SOUND.
It's why for me something like The Misfits' song "London Dungeon" or Gun N Roses "Don't Damn Me" is heavier and more raw than 99 percent of death/black metal bands and all the subgenres that branch off the two, because it's not about how it sounds it's about the mood it creates and how it makes you feel when you listen to it.
I've been thinking the same for a while.
To me, "heavy" is what pushes you to contract all muscles of your body and go thrashing around (and/or what increases your weightlifting capacity by about 20%). You can only go so far in terms of aggressiveness, speed, distortion, screaming etc. When you crank these things up, in general music tends to get "heavier", but if you go over the top, it just becomes more and more noise and reduces the "heavy" effect.
the whole backup dance thing at the end: have you heard of FeuerSchwanz and All For Metal? u even got the dance the girls from those bands are doing kinda right.
00’s metal is by far the best era of metal, trivium, bfmv, avenged, LOG early albums are fucking godly 🤷♂️
I am afraid that both Taake’s Nattestid ser porten vid and Nokturnal Mortum’s Goat Horns were released in the 90’s.
metalcore and deathcore are the LGBT of the metal community
Saw you at Drownload but I chickened out at saying hello haha
Slaughter to prevail is the equivalent to a shitty 80's action movie. Tries really hard to be bad ass but ends up being corny and forgettable.
yes.... unlike all the 80's band with long hair and leather pants that were all incredibly unique and not corny at all.
I like modern deathcore, I love Slaughter to Prevail and Lorna Shore, but I also think that having low tunned guitars is necessary for the music to sound heavy. For example, Cattle Decapitation, which are one of my favourite bands - yes I know they're not deathcore - but they tune their guitar to D# standard which is ridiculously high tuned for their heaviness. Also, for people who like power metal, i reccommend checking out Elvenking; they're from Italy and they are amazing
Elvenking rip.
Mors Principium Est tune ro E standard and there's not much heavier than them.
Ok don’t hate me but Iron Maiden are hard rock in my opinion. I still love them though.
Oooooof. Now that's a hot take, son. 😂
Since the 90s there has been a portion of metal music that is, underneath the distortion and drama llama poor me vocals, a 1950s pop tune dressed up
I shit you not, I’ve listened to ‘Blind And Frozen’ about 20 times since I watched this video!
Like the good old KK Downing said. I'm here to keep heavy metal alive. "KK's Priest"
Heavy metal have been a dying genre, but there is still some left like Primal Fear and others.
Attic
Whaaatttt??? Blind Guardian is goated. Honestly, I always think of them as more speed metal from back in the day rather than power metal, but I agree there are so many other power metal bands being slept on.
After I have heard all recent Thall and Banda like Darko is, Dead Vectors etc. Nothing is heavy any more. I remember 20y ago listening to Metallica and thinking this is the heaviest think ever.
I feel like my „heavy progression” from 2005 to 2015 was very slow and steady and from lvl 1 I just progressed to lvl5 in heaviness, and in last 5 years from lvl 7 to lvl 25…
If we're talking power metal, my go to band atm has been Sacred Outcry and their latest album Tower of Gold where they got Lost Horizons old singer to sing for the album. An absolute banger from start to finish if you ask me
Another issue is bands thinking more tracks makes a song heavier but the opposite is true . Every time you add a track, another track suffers because you have to start scooping out frequencies to avoid frequency sharing .
TH-camrs can spit anything these days.
When it comes to heavy stuff, I always consult freaking Steven "I love the 70's" Wilson.
Anybody like Into Eternity? It's not truly power metal but their first few albums are a dope mix of melo-death and power metal.
Also, I absolutely DO dance to metal. Not terribly well but there's no reason you can't do some frenetic body jerking
ANGRA mentioned 🇧🇷
I'm not really making a concerted effort to look metal, I just buy enough shirts at concerts that I don't need to ever buy other shirts besides that, so I always wear a metal shirt.
The medium wave is not an issue with just metal. Basically there came an issue where companies wanted the music to be a certain volume always basically, but how can you control the volume someone has a song in a vehicle or on a speaker. Well if the entire song is the same loudness volume then you basically control the volume people have it and for it being played on the radio. Especially so all songs fit in a certain volume always stopping people from having to constantly adjust the volume for every song.
Thus almost all music now lacks dynamic range, the songs all keep the same level of volume throughout, lows are higher, higher is lower, all centre wave.
On one hand it is good that you no longer have songs with parts that you can barley hear that then erupt into very loud music, so we don't deal with having to turn it up to hear then throwing it back down because you are bursting your ears. Unfortunately this removed the songs that had great dynamic range and really knew how to work with this, and now a lot of things sound muddied and the same.
to be fair cleansing was recorded all live in one room doing one takes with mitch in the middle of them screaming into a mic with a towel overr his head, youre gonna get shit audio recording but thats what gave it its heavy sound (other then how good the fucking players were, all one take but tight and consistent LIVE recording), and modern bands have a bunch of shit going on at one time so makes sense why the audio needs to be clearer to hear what ever the track calls for , lorna for example tons of distortion, on top of a bunch of symphonic instruments so that then leaves hardly any stereo field/headroom to use so makes sense why they had to compress the shit out of it and play tetris to put everything together lol