As a train driver, who drives regularly through the new tunnel, I always wondered what happened to the old route. Thank you very much for bringing this information right into my cosy home. :)
I really enjoy these types of videos, where you take viewers to a place and give a brief history lesson. It's good to hear the villagers still have the railway. It would be even better to see the plan of the green space turn into reality.
The old train-route of heigenbrücken still exist as a map in game of Train Sim World. When I played that route I really wanted to visit Heigenbrücken station to see how train pass the tunnel but wen i saw your first video about that old tunnel route abandoned I was disappointed 😢 but now this video, I think it’s still worth it to visit the abandoned old station of heigenbrücken.
Looks like a good opportunity to connect Jägerstraße to approximately where Gartenstraße ends (I hope I'm reading those correctly). Now that a bridge doesn't have to be high and wide enough to cross 2+ tracks, it would be way easier to get the south part of the village connected to the rest through more than 2 bottlenecks. That way the village isn't almost entirely cut in half when some road works have to be done, like if that "Sanierung Brücke, Neubau" project actually ends up happening. It doesn't even have to be a car bridge, I bet pedestrians would also appreciate not having to take those 2 stairs to cross the park.
On the Eifel railway Köln(Cologne) - Trier(currently out of service on most parts caused by the flooding last summer) you can cycle or walk through a still used tunnel parallel to the rail(Kyller Tunnel, 138 m long). The line used to be double-tracked, after WW2 one track partially was dismantled for reparations.
@@Grauwolf57 So it would be really time to re-establish teh second track? My Mother and sister in Law grew up in Bad Neuenahr (twenty years apart, obviously), and they were shell-shocked when they saw the devastation. There is a bit more to say about that, there were people killed buying their Christmas tree each year, so it home. Hard.
When an Englishman says he is "mildly disappointed", things must be catastrophic. And they are. Is there an English word for Bauruine or is that a typical German thing? The new train station is a testament of what the DB thinks of its customers. There's not even have kind of weather protection anywhere on the platform. But - hey, they were so kind to buy one bench per platform. Under covid restrictions this means one single person can sit, all others stand. That is a whole new level of comfort.
"Is there an English word for Bauruine or is that a typical German thing?" Indeed, there is no good translation. I've seen "unfinished building" and "abandoned construction of a building", but those don't quite have the charm of the original.
Blame the delays on the Virus. They actually got luck that i came when it did. Better than do all the work only to have it shut for months on end. Great update video!
in TSW the main-spessart-rampe DLC sort of preserved the old route, wich shows that the plattforms at heigen brücken were as follows: [1]■[1|2]■[2|3]■[3|4]■ (also the actual width would be in this diagram ■[ ]■)
I hope you visit Kornwesthiem. Where my grandparents used to live at. And do some rail-fanning videos. And there is a place for railfans to film at the classification yard. And at the end of Bolstrab right behind 140 where my grandparents used to live at.
Just visited the region. Würzburg to be exact. Lovely region, people nice with a weird sense of humour which seems slightly upfront at times. However, everybody not only recognised but understood my broad Viennese. They even said they liked it.
Things are not as easy. The disposal of the gravel alone requires a lot of paperwork. It might contain hazardous materials such as oil from the engines, etc. Experts survey will be required, costs much, takes time. The town seems to have more problems besides the railway wasteland. On the other hand, it still has a railway connection to Aschaffenburg and on to Frankfurt. With some careful development it might be of interest for investments after the real estate prices in the urban areas exploded.
You're less assimilated than I thought.... 5 Years to see progress when a construction needs to start from scratch? In Germany? That's hardly enough time to get a Baugenehmigung...
Compare that to the Gigafactory near Berlin, where almost everyone sees a conspiracy that it took much less than that for final approval. Or to some infrastructure plans that, if I recall correctly, are still only paper a full 60 years later. It's all very relative.
That meaning is somewhat new to me and there is that other meaning of ramble to be talking silly and random things (rambling on endlessly), in German "schwafeln". Also the social network with the same name. And I'm pretty sure Andrew has used it in this meaning as well.
The original meaning is "someone who takes a recreational walk in the countryside". Figuratively, it is "someone who is talking at length without direction".
@@renerpho Ah, so, the figurative meaning is basically describing someone talking in the way one might imagine a person walking around recreationally in the countryside, going here and there, stopping for off-tangent stuff and whatnot. :)
It can be a railway station; but it can also be a train station. After all, buses have bus stations and bus stops, so why can't trains have train stations?
@@Inkyminkyzizwoz "Train station" is a perfectly normal, legitimate, and very widely used synonym of "railway station". These things aren't carved in stone: they are decided by convention. By convention we have "airports" or "aeroports", by convention we have "bus stations", and by convention we have "railway stations" or "train stations".
@@rewboss The railway is always there, but the train isn't, so it's a railway station. A bus station is only called a bus station because there isn't anything else it could be called
@@Inkyminkyzizwoz Okay, so you have eloquently explained why you prefer "railway station". That's fine, but it doesn't change the fact that "train station" is widely used and understood -- so much so, that it is even the title of the Wikipedia article (which also gives the synonyms "railway station", "railroad station" and, for freight, "depot").
if they wanted to do something they would've sold the land to some property developer and it would've been built up in a flash. so either the government is keeping their grubby little hands on it or the land is just worthless and no developer would buy it.
@@varana bruh the town is in the middle of a forest with a convenient train connection. best of both worlds that mountain air and easy transportation to the big cities. developers would kill for that land in the us. places like Shasta and big bear are completely built out and they have even worse transportation than this town.
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As a train driver, who drives regularly through the new tunnel, I always wondered what happened to the old route.
Thank you very much for bringing this information right into my cosy home. :)
I really enjoy these types of videos, where you take viewers to a place and give a brief history lesson.
It's good to hear the villagers still have the railway. It would be even better to see the plan of the green space turn into reality.
I like looking how railways used to go, both on maps and on location
Do you know th-cam.com/users/pwhitewick1videos ?
The old train-route of heigenbrücken still exist as a map in game of Train Sim World. When I played that route I really wanted to visit Heigenbrücken station to see how train pass the tunnel but wen i saw your first video about that old tunnel route abandoned I was disappointed 😢 but now this video, I think it’s still worth it to visit the abandoned old station of heigenbrücken.
This feels like a mix between AlexE and Geoff Marshall and I love it.
With a little bit of Paul Whitewick.
Looks like a good opportunity to connect Jägerstraße to approximately where Gartenstraße ends (I hope I'm reading those correctly). Now that a bridge doesn't have to be high and wide enough to cross 2+ tracks, it would be way easier to get the south part of the village connected to the rest through more than 2 bottlenecks. That way the village isn't almost entirely cut in half when some road works have to be done, like if that "Sanierung Brücke, Neubau" project actually ends up happening. It doesn't even have to be a car bridge, I bet pedestrians would also appreciate not having to take those 2 stairs to cross the park.
In italy there are bike paths that go through old railway tunnels and it is great
seems like a nice way to ride your bike with less climbs
Bike baths. Ah joie de vivre.
On the Eifel railway Köln(Cologne) - Trier(currently out of service on most parts caused by the flooding last summer) you can cycle or walk through a still used tunnel parallel to the rail(Kyller Tunnel, 138 m long). The line used to be double-tracked, after WW2 one track partially was dismantled for reparations.
@@connectingthedots100 how did that Happen 🤣
That too probably but I thought of the brenner line
@@Grauwolf57 So it would be really time to re-establish teh second track? My Mother and sister in Law grew up in Bad Neuenahr (twenty years apart, obviously), and they were shell-shocked when they saw the devastation. There is a bit more to say about that, there were people killed buying their Christmas tree each year, so it home. Hard.
When an Englishman says he is "mildly disappointed", things must be catastrophic. And they are.
Is there an English word for Bauruine or is that a typical German thing?
The new train station is a testament of what the DB thinks of its customers. There's not even have kind of weather protection anywhere on the platform. But - hey, they were so kind to buy one bench per platform. Under covid restrictions this means one single person can sit, all others stand. That is a whole new level of comfort.
"Is there an English word for Bauruine or is that a typical German thing?"
Indeed, there is no good translation. I've seen "unfinished building" and "abandoned construction of a building", but those don't quite have the charm of the original.
Ich hatte schon dieses Video geschaut. Sehr gut!
Just past Heigenbrücken on my ICE to Cologue and now I'm watching this just as we pull into Aschaffenburg :)
Love your content! Keep posting, boss!
I can also imagine this as Tim Traveller video.
I wish it was as popular as a Tim Traveller video. :/
It's so wierd to see the tunnel, the path, the station, but no railway and no trains
I love mild disappointment! subscribed.
This seems like something that doesn't affect me at all but which I will nevertheless become weirdly invested in. #Heigenbrücken_railway_park
So schade meinen alten Heimatort so zu sehen. Alles verfällt im Ortskern :(
I hope sone will make a park out of this at some point.
Blame the delays on the Virus. They actually got luck that i came when it did. Better than do all the work only to have it shut for months on end. Great update video!
in TSW the main-spessart-rampe DLC sort of preserved the old route, wich shows that the plattforms at heigen brücken were as follows:
[1]■[1|2]■[2|3]■[3|4]■ (also the actual width would be in this diagram ■[ ]■)
thank you Andrew
Literally just watched your old video a few days ago
"mildly disappointed". ooooh the art of an English burn.
Interesting!
I suspect there will be similar feelings when Stuttgart 21 is completed.
very interesting, danke!
That is a very german solution to the problem: do nothing for way too long
What a shame. The old station would be a perfect home/cafe, and if the tracks had been left it could have had tourist train museum of some kind.
I hope you visit Kornwesthiem. Where my grandparents used to live at. And do some rail-fanning videos. And there is a place for railfans to film at the classification yard. And at the end of Bolstrab right behind 140 where my grandparents used to live at.
The old tunnel and the old station are still in the game Train Sim World 2 if anyone's curious to see how it used to be 🙂
- Becomes German citizen
- Starts trespassing in construction areas
tsk tsk tsk 😛
Just visited the region. Würzburg to be exact. Lovely region, people nice with a weird sense of humour which seems slightly upfront at times. However, everybody not only recognised but understood my broad Viennese. They even said they liked it.
Everybody likes richtiges Deutsch. It always stirs up memories of nice holidays in Austria.
That tunnel entrance looks like something from the video game "Fallout New Vegas"
Things are not as easy. The disposal of the gravel alone requires a lot of paperwork. It might contain hazardous materials such as oil from the engines, etc. Experts survey will be required, costs much, takes time. The town seems to have more problems besides the railway wasteland. On the other hand, it still has a railway connection to Aschaffenburg and on to Frankfurt. With some careful development it might be of interest for investments after the real estate prices in the urban areas exploded.
You're less assimilated than I thought.... 5 Years to see progress when a construction needs to start from scratch? In Germany? That's hardly enough time to get a Baugenehmigung...
Compare that to the Gigafactory near Berlin, where almost everyone sees a conspiracy that it took much less than that for final approval. Or to some infrastructure plans that, if I recall correctly, are still only paper a full 60 years later. It's all very relative.
Heigenbrücken wird nicht nochmals kandidieren, um sich den Titel "Luftkurort" anerkennen zu lassen und wird ihn nächstes Jahr verlieren.
03:25 Did you get a reply from the Town hall about your questions?
I did eventually, but it was... not helpful. Basically, it's just bureaucracy.
I have no vote, but I hope it is left alone or at most turned into a park
To the Bat Cave!
What is a "Rambler"?
Wanderer.
That meaning is somewhat new to me and there is that other meaning of ramble to be talking silly and random things (rambling on endlessly), in German "schwafeln". Also the social network with the same name. And I'm pretty sure Andrew has used it in this meaning as well.
The original meaning is "someone who takes a recreational walk in the countryside". Figuratively, it is "someone who is talking at length without direction".
@@renerpho Ah, so, the figurative meaning is basically describing someone talking in the way one might imagine a person walking around recreationally in the countryside, going here and there, stopping for off-tangent stuff and whatnot. :)
Just wait for Stuttgart 21 to be finished.
I was thinking something along the same lines.
Rewboss said: world's worst CYCLEPATH
I understood : world's worst PSYCHOPATH
It's a RAILWAY station - you don't fly from a 'planeport'!
It can be a railway station; but it can also be a train station. After all, buses have bus stations and bus stops, so why can't trains have train stations?
@@rewboss Because what else could you call the places that buses use? And why don't we have 'planeports'?
@@Inkyminkyzizwoz "Train station" is a perfectly normal, legitimate, and very widely used synonym of "railway station". These things aren't carved in stone: they are decided by convention. By convention we have "airports" or "aeroports", by convention we have "bus stations", and by convention we have "railway stations" or "train stations".
@@rewboss The railway is always there, but the train isn't, so it's a railway station. A bus station is only called a bus station because there isn't anything else it could be called
@@Inkyminkyzizwoz Okay, so you have eloquently explained why you prefer "railway station". That's fine, but it doesn't change the fact that "train station" is widely used and understood -- so much so, that it is even the title of the Wikipedia article (which also gives the synonyms "railway station", "railroad station" and, for freight, "depot").
if they wanted to do something they would've sold the land to some property developer and it would've been built up in a flash. so either the government is keeping their grubby little hands on it or the land is just worthless and no developer would buy it.
So ... which developer would build that park that people seemed to want then?
@@KaiHenningsen bruh the towns in the middle of a forest. how much park do you need. businesses and houses.
@@nick4506 bruh the towns in the middle of a forest. how much interest from developers do you think they're going to get?
@@varana bruh the town is in the middle of a forest with a convenient train connection. best of both worlds that mountain air and easy transportation to the big cities. developers would kill for that land in the us. places like Shasta and big bear are completely built out and they have even worse transportation than this town.
sadly typical german