@@vinnheggg1695 Yeah, depending on which Wifi 6E router you get you might get One 2.4Ghz bands and one 5Ghz and one 6Ghz bands. While other you will get Two 2.4Ghz and One 6Ghs ( no 5Ghz band). Edit: Thou with 6Ghz units, if you live close by an Air Port, there's a chance most of the channles will be closed off to help prevent inference with the Flight Tower radar.
Moving to a 6 GHz band will result in less penetration power thereby reducing the range of the wifi signal when using the 6GHz band. The next version of wifi should focus on improving penetration power so that the wifi signal gets less obstructed by the walls of rooms and floors.
Can someone explain how we would increase penetration power when the higher the frequency the closer the waves are together therefore making them have less penetration power? Won't we have to balance between data transfer and range?
@@thecoolguy9364 Yup, its very hard to do both, higher frequency has faster speeds but a shorter range and a lower frequency has slower speeds but a longer range. The biggest example of this is 4G vs 5G
@Angel Raj I disagree. Unless you replace your routers every year, it is good to buy a router with some future-proofing in mind. Waiting to get a 6E router might save a buyer from purchasing a new router for the next 6 years. At least that's the way I see it. Getting the best value of the hardware purchase is the way I would go about it.
Well, I was looking at upgrading my router to wifi6 but I guess I will wait till next year, not that long really and my current router still works pretty well.
I was thinking the same, but that's like a cat and mouse game. These advances are only going to come faster and faster as the tech matures. That 6 GHz does sound tempting though
@@RetroBerner Yes if you are using it near the router like in the same room or maybe even adjacent room (fingers crossed). 6ghz can't help with the range, at that point your device will probably use 2.4ghz
Glad to have waited to buy a Wifi6 router. Just bought a Wifi5 router for time being and will probably wait till most of the devices get upgraded to make the most of the extra band.
But later this year the first wave 1 WiFi 7 devices are expected to better wait for those. But WiFi 8 is also coming along very well so better wait for those. But then WiFi 9 is already being worked on so better wait. And so on and so on.
2.4GHz = playing your phone anywhere in your house 5.0GHz = playing your phone close to router 6.0GHz = playing your phone besides router 7.0GHz = .... inside your router
not to mention the increases in random connection drops in computers because of hardware issues, drivers not "optimised", interference, a butterfly flaps its wings in the amazon jungle, etc. as the technology gets "better" and more "revolutionary"
Wireless standards board, "We need to make things easier for people to understand, so Wifi AX is now "Wifi 6", and because this wasn't confusing enough we're going to start adding letters to numbers again."
i mean, Wifi 6E is literally just Wifi 6, but it now has extra stuff to work with, same technology, doesn't make sense to add 1 to the version just for a super minor change
Wifi6E will of course be more expensive, as it will have the problem 5ghz has with barriers and therefore will require a better mesh. Something that started with the transition from 2.4ghz - 5ghz
I bought a WiFi 6 router a while back, but my secondary router is still WiFi 5. It gets replaced tomorrow. I have a grand total of two WiFi 6 devices (phones), and zero WiFi 6E devices. I'll be getting another WiFi 6 device in August. I'll be in no hurry to get those new routers when they come out later this year. That 6GHz band is going to be even worse at penetrating walls than the 5GHz band. I won't be interested in that band until I have a much more congested network.
Small nit: strictly speaking there are only two binary "digits" - 0 and 1; but there can be an arbitrary number of bits (short for binary digit) in a transmission! Binary digits (1 and 0) can occur in any bit position of a binary string/number. Get it?
Because literally the only difference between Wi-Fi 6 and 6E is that Wi-Fi 6E supports the 6GHz band. That's only really significant to anyone if they already have a lot of congestion on their 5GHz band.
Tough enough to find outdoor APs that use WPA3 that are budget friendly, so far I only found 2, a Netgear unit and an Engenius in my searches. Need my remote building, 350 feet away to share security cameras and not willing to trench, again, out to that building.. Had TP-Link CPE510s in use, worked great, just with too many campers next door looking for free wifi or trying out their hacking skills, thought put tougher barrier up.. I kept them low so trees would interfere long distance, but they still find a way..
I just want a 802.11ax AP that has 10gb and poe for consumers, cherry on top if it’s all weather as well. When that hits the market, I’ll upgrade to it.
You missed something pretty significant to the roll out of Wifi 6e. That is, currently the only country to open up the 6Ghz band to unlicensed transmission is the USA. Many countries have that spectrum associated with other licenced services, meaning it's extremely unlikely that band opens up to unlicensed use in most countries. You likewise failed to make clear that the only difference between Wifi 6 and WiFi 6e, is the addition of the 6Ghz spectrum. That means most of the world will only get WiFi 6 As of 9 January 2021, there are still no consumer 6e appliances. It's only enterprise currently.
I've held off Wifi 6 since Ubiquiti only had WIFI 5 AP units, then 6E is announced and I am still holding off so I can design a system around the Dream Machine Pro and 6E AP units, hopefully early next year. Any news on Unifi's progress with 6E APs?
Nice! Most of those Wifi6 routers out there have Broadcom chips which won't be compatible with Open-WRT anyway. So hopefully a Qualcomm based Wifi 6E router with a cheaper price could soon become a reality..
I hope so. We were looking to invest in a WiFi 6 router & got stopped by minimal support for open firmware & ended up ordering an Archer C7 for half the price as a stopgap. hopefully by the time an OpenWrt 6e router comes out, we can just use the C7 as an AP to help bolster coverage for lower demand devices!
I see no reason to upgrade from wifi AC. I bought a $400 asus rt 5500 a few years ago. Been great. Then I moved and the new provider included 2 pods/mesh network. A product named plume. Seems to work fine. The way they keep updating might just wait for wifi 10, lol
Yeah, you probably don't need to unless you either do a lot of data transferring over the local network, have a lot of devices on your network, or you host outdoor parties a lot where the extra range comes in handy.
I've been watching the CNN channel since like 2008 ever since I got my first iPod Touch that you know new stuff is coming out all the time every year new update and I learned and I learned about different software & how Apps work so by like 2009 i was able to jailbreak itt hings and then I finally got good at being able to jailbreak the ipod touchs with my laptop
Does it make your existing devices faster or does it just go back to the lower band to communicate with them. In other words do the wifi cards need to be upgraded with a new router.
You won’t see any real benefits if the devices doesn’t support WiFi 6 or 6E, but older Devices will still be able to connect to their supported frequency of 2.4 or 5ghz.
Holy F---, an additional frequency! That’s worth waiting for. However, what cable should we start installing for future-proofing as these super fast routers come to market? Cat 6e? Cat 7? Cat 8? Fiber optic? Blue ‘smurf’ tubing?
If it's for in-wall installation, Cat 6 is probably the best balance between future-proofing and cost efficiency. It's certified for 10Gigabit speeds at up to 180 ft(55 meters). In the US, we're only just starting to see 2 Gigabit internet speeds being offered through Comcast and Google Fiber, so CAT 6 will have plenty of room for internet speeds to grow and it'll be great for local networks if there are lots of file transfers or video-editing from a NAS or any extremely network-heavy stuff like that taking place.
It would help to add the fact that you would probably have to stand 5-10ft away from your router to take advantage of anything 6E... assuming your device can actually do WifI6 to begin with
I do NOT have even 1 device with an 802.11 "AX" adapter card such as my Samsung TV, wyze and C by GE smart bulbs or even my Samsung note 9 phone. So if I get a wifi 6 router as an upgrade to my wifi 5 "will this make any difference whatsoever"?
Hi, here is Ry's answer: All we've heard from manufacturers is that we should expect to see new routers that support Wi-Fi 6E by the end of this year (and probably in time for the holiday buying season). Wouldn't be surprising if that included a mesh router or two, but we don't know that for sure yet. Sounds like we'll definitely see a greater variety of options in 2021, and the first phones that support Wi-Fi 6E, too.
It seems that I am the only one who TH-cam recommended to watch this video from 2020 in 2024 because I still have a Wi-Fi 4 router, a Wi-Fi 5 phone and I am thinking of buying a Wi-Fi 7 router right away.
Yes, it would probably help a lot, especially if most of those devices are often being used all at once. Wi-Fi 6 has something called OFDMA that allows it to chop up the available bandwidth and distribute smaller portions of it to each device as needed based on what each device is doing. For example: If you have a Wi-Fi 6 capable device that's just browsing the web and sending e-mails, such as a laptop for work, a Wi-Fi 6 router will dynamically give it significantly less bandwidth while it's doing that, because that's not something that needs a ton of speed in order for it not to slow down, whereas if you have a device such as an Apple TV 4K that is streaming 4K Netflix in the living room, a Wi-Fi 6 router will give that device lots of bandwidth which it needs for data-heavy streaming without interruption(buffering/choppiness). Basically Wi-Fi 6 is better at intelligently allowing for devices to share the network.
What kind of WiFi capability dose a router have I your country when you order a internet service? In Denmark you get a 802.11ac but soon we will switch to 802.11ax on fiber.
Had to watch it twice because 98% of the video is explaining what WiFi 6 is and only briefly mentions that WiFi 6E adds the 6GHz band before going back to explaining WiFi 6.
Most people are still on "Wifi 5", most new devices barely support Wifi 6 and my ISP doesnt even have a Wifi 6 router option yet. Now we have Wifi 6e? Jeez, my new computer that I bought 3 weeks ago is already out of date 😞
Do the clients have to be able to accept 6e ? What if you bought a laptop a year or two ago. Will it be able to take advantage of the new wifi 6 or wifi 6e?
Just bought a WI-FI 6 Router in May I had a funny feeling something like this would happen. And I thought I was future proofing. Technology sure is moving fast. We'll be sitting pretty on Mars next. By the time i can afford the WI-FI 6E all the electronics will be too expensive for me so I'll have to wait till my new router doesn't get supported by the manufacturer. That's TP-LINK AX6000.
You didn't really miss anything with Wi-Fi 6E unless you have a really congested 5GHz network already. Wi-Fi 6 was probably the single most significant Wi-Fi update that there has ever been with all of the changes it's brought.
Bring back your light led light bulb reviews. Like no one else does a good job of lights and color temperature. With work from home, lighting has never been more important. Now run with it!
if you have a computer where you can physically upgrade your WiFi card. so for smartphones, you are looking at getting a new device - one of the flagship models.
Wifi 6 devices are growing. They are still in the minority but increasing. Like rangergun said, many smartphones now come with Wifi 6. Newer laptops have Intel 200 AX wifi cards in them and you can upgrade existing wifi cards on older hardware like I have. So while they are in the minority, their rate of introduction is increasing now that Wifi 6 routers are out. The question might be will there be many Wifi 6E devices in 2021. IoT devices I think will remain mostly 2.4Ghz unfortunately unless they are video streaming IoT devices like Google and Alexa display smart devices.
WiFi 6E is not backwards compatible at all. WiFi 6E routers have the previous versions of hardware built into them also so that older devices can still connect. 6 has better network management. 6E includes a 6Ghz radio.
@@mac1bc 3 years ago, I don't even remember. From my comment I believe the first sentence was quoting content from the video because the second sentence says exactly what you said to me.
Very interesting. But is people really measuring real usage? Are most of the users in need to such frequencies? What are the real use cases that will have huge gain and is the trade off between range and broadband a good one? I believe that the optimizations presented in wifi 6 are cool but the trending for 6gb band I can't see a huge impact in our day to day usage...
WiFI 6, now 6E, I was kind of ready to upgrade, but it they want to keep changing things, then I might as well sit it out for a while untill they have a stable offering, that's not going to see me saddled with 'not quite the right tech'.
I would say it's probably safe to upgrade right now. Wi-Fi 6/6E brought about a bunch of significant positive changes and it would be a solid upgrade to any network regardless of whatever Wi-Fi 7 may bring to the table.
Last time I looked I could find the router's but the Wifi adapters were almost impossible to find. You also did not cover the range of the AX and the Expanded router in comparison to the existing routers. This was a failure on your part.
Hear is a bit of a noob question, but nobody seems to address it. All the 6 & 6E discussion seems to assume unlimited an unlimited bandwidth connection at the router. If you have a 6 or 6E router with multiple devices connected to a 50 Mbps internet connection, will you see any real increase in performance at the device level when all the devices are in heavy use?
I have 100 Mbps and upgraded from a wifi 4 router to a wifi 6. My older devices went from 50 Mbps download speed to 90 but my newer devices stayed the same at 100. Honestly if your on a wifi 4 or older router then yes a wifi 6/6e may improve performance on some devices but if you got a wifi 5 router I doubt you would see much difference.
Lots of tech-savvy people are now using surveillance cameras and media servers within the home. So it's not as unusual that much bandwidth now is generated within the local network. I have an 8 camera surveillance setup that I can access away from home. I also have a Plex server that I am gradually upgrading my movie rips to 4K UHD movies. My current router can sometimes struggle with juggling external streams and internal streams simultaneously. Also, I live near a commercial district with car dealerships, restaurants, and a medical clinic. The 2.4G band is congested and I get lots of interference. My most stable connections are my 5G connections, but they don't penetrate walls very well. I have my servers, cameras, and televisions connected with ethernet cables and gigabit switches. I also find consumer routers severely limited because I cannot create multiple VLANs like I would like to separate my IoT, computers, surveillance, and media streamers into unique VLANs. Not to mention the radios on consumer-grade equipment is pretty bad.
@@darkshadows8347 -Thanks for that. It really addresses my question head on and gives me the info I was missing. Currently I am running the house on a 2.4/5 Ghz 4G/LTE sim card router ( a real one, not a mobile hot spot). In the beginning it was the best choice speed and cost wise (two phones, 3 iPads, 2 Macs and 2 PCs and 750 Gb of data shared across them for $125 USD equivalent) vs DSL (iffy speeds and high price) or satellite (low speeds and a fortune for the data I need). Coax access just became available but at 50 Mbs (theoretical) and evening speeds are likely to be the same or slower than the 4G. So no real benefit for me feeding my 4G/LTE Modem/Router signal to a 6G wifi router. I used to have 100Mbs fibre to the house at my old home. I'd have made the jump to 6G for that. May be moving at some point post-virus, so your info will help inform my choices in a new home. Thanks again.
@@streamingjunkie4397 -Thanks for your info too...it will go into the mix--especially 5Ghz wall penetration. Have no issues now, but as noted above I may move and will be sure and do a practical test for that in any new home.
The most interesting part is how people can remember how much money you owe them, down to the penny, but can't remember something as astoundingly simple as 802.11.
Wired is still king in latency and speed. Only do WiFi if it’s hard to route a wire. WiFi 6 and 6E NEEDS your devices (cellphone, PC, Etc.) to support WiFi 6 and 6E or you are just wasting your $$$. Also, know that WiFi is a half duplex tech (you can only send or receive data one at a time). You also only get ~1/3 of the advertised speed in real life (don’t confuse link speed with throughput). 6ghz will allow faster data transfers but if you thought your 5GHZ range was bad get ready to be even more disappointed. The higher the frequency, the harder it is for the signal to go through walls.
Remember, the higher the frequency, the Shorter the range.
sptrader good point to keep in mind, thanks
Thank you, my router wifi 6 have 2.5 Ghz and 5 Ghz
I guess 6e alone has the additional 6ghz band
@@vinnheggg1695 Yeah, depending on which Wifi 6E router you get you might get One 2.4Ghz bands and one 5Ghz and one 6Ghz bands. While other you will get Two 2.4Ghz and One 6Ghs ( no 5Ghz band).
Edit: Thou with 6Ghz units, if you live close by an Air Port, there's a chance most of the channles will be closed off to help prevent inference with the Flight Tower radar.
If I'm not mistaken, airports using radar etc are on the 5 ghz channel.
Moving to a 6 GHz band will result in less penetration power thereby reducing the range of the wifi signal when using the 6GHz band. The next version of wifi should focus on improving penetration power so that the wifi signal gets less obstructed by the walls of rooms and floors.
Wi-Fi 6 kind of did improve penetration power but it's difficult to explain without going into technical jargon
Can someone explain how we would increase penetration power when the higher the frequency the closer the waves are together therefore making them have less penetration power? Won't we have to balance between data transfer and range?
@@thecoolguy9364 Yup, its very hard to do both, higher frequency has faster speeds but a shorter range and a lower frequency has slower speeds but a longer range. The biggest example of this is 4G vs 5G
@@TypicalBlox lot of 5G networks cheat on us. They use existing 4G network to provide 5G services. So called NSA (non stand alone)
That's why you get Wi-Fi 6E mesh. It solves the problem
I only just bought a wifi 6 router and now there’s wifi 6E 🤬
You are slow bro
@@kulkavin thats just WiFi 6 not 6E
@Angel Raj I disagree. Unless you replace your routers every year, it is good to buy a router with some future-proofing in mind. Waiting to get a 6E router might save a buyer from purchasing a new router for the next 6 years. At least that's the way I see it. Getting the best value of the hardware purchase is the way I would go about it.
LOL My fingers were itching to buy one then I saw wifi 6E and I was like "hold the f*&^&* up...."
Same lol
Thank you for the breakdown 🤜🤛
Well, I was looking at upgrading my router to wifi6 but I guess I will wait till next year, not that long really and my current router still works pretty well.
I was thinking the same, but that's like a cat and mouse game. These advances are only going to come faster and faster as the tech matures. That 6 GHz does sound tempting though
yup. better to be patient and get the better routers a little later.
@@RetroBerner Yes if you are using it near the router like in the same room or maybe even adjacent room (fingers crossed). 6ghz can't help with the range, at that point your device will probably use 2.4ghz
Ima just wait for Wifi 6 Definitive Edition
Not everyone understands tech jargons.
Wifi 6 GOTY 😆
Glad to have waited to buy a Wifi6 router. Just bought a Wifi5 router for time being and will probably wait till most of the devices get upgraded to make the most of the extra band.
It's the same level but enhanced
I feel like your everywhere lol 😂
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We have so much in common, Ray! We comment on the same videos. The algorithm has become omnipotent....
dude what, bro you're like on every video I see lmfao
69th like!!!!
If I see my bartender growing extra pairs of hands I'll remind myself I had enough drinks for the day.
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Haha. Yeah!!!
Great timing on this video as I have been shopping for a wifi 6 router. Now I will wait for the 6Es later this year! Thanks!
But later this year the first wave 1 WiFi 7 devices are expected to better wait for those.
But WiFi 8 is also coming along very well so better wait for those.
But then WiFi 9 is already being worked on so better wait.
And so on and so on.
0:57 Dr Octopus , found a job during the COVID pandemic I see.
What's covid?
2.4GHz = playing your phone anywhere in your house
5.0GHz = playing your phone close to router
6.0GHz = playing your phone besides router
7.0GHz = .... inside your router
not to mention the increases in random connection drops in computers because of hardware issues, drivers not "optimised", interference, a butterfly flaps its wings in the amazon jungle, etc. as the technology gets "better" and more "revolutionary"
Is it just me or is Ry is looking more and more like 1970’s George Lucas? Not an insult, by the way.
A little late to the party but yes he does
Wireless standards board, "We need to make things easier for people to understand, so Wifi AX is now "Wifi 6", and because this wasn't confusing enough we're going to start adding letters to numbers again."
It's the new iPhone. Wifi 6S anyone?
i mean, Wifi 6E is literally just Wifi 6, but it now has extra stuff to work with, same technology, doesn't make sense to add 1 to the version just for a super minor change
Wifi is wireless so it will never be as reliable or fast as Ethernet.
@@kalijasin ok?
@DRIFTER it only adds 6GHz and doesn't change how the standard works. Wifi 7 is overselling
Very well done, I like the visuals.
Thanks, Dave!
Thanks for the explanation 👍🏼✌🏽
Thanks for watching, Clifton!
i still have 802n router with the 6 MBits/s ADSL internet, wait with inpatience when such things will be available locally
Great. I was thinking of getting the WiFi 6 router this year during the holidays season. Now I'll wait one more year and then get the WiFi 6E router.
And when you do that they will be announcing the WiFi 6E Pro.
Yes, thank you.. I'm going to need an update on this subject
Nicely explained.... thank ya
Could have just stuck with the bartender analogy, OR the highway analogy. Makes the entire thing easier to understand.
Wifi6E will of course be more expensive, as it will have the problem 5ghz has with barriers and therefore will require a better mesh.
Something that started with the transition from 2.4ghz - 5ghz
There are some good deals on mesh wifi 6e routers now.
Thanks for sharing I love the way you broke this down
Wow sir this was really good
Great explanation of it
Good concise video
I bought a WiFi 6 router a while back, but my secondary router is still WiFi 5. It gets replaced tomorrow.
I have a grand total of two WiFi 6 devices (phones), and zero WiFi 6E devices. I'll be getting another WiFi 6 device in August.
I'll be in no hurry to get those new routers when they come out later this year. That 6GHz band is going to be even worse at penetrating walls than the 5GHz band. I won't be interested in that band until I have a much more congested network.
That's the smart way to go about it. Like you said, 6GHz isn't really a gamechanger unless you already have a very congested 5GHz network.
Small nit: strictly speaking there are only two binary "digits" - 0 and 1; but there can be an arbitrary number of bits (short for binary digit) in a transmission! Binary digits (1 and 0) can occur in any bit position of a binary string/number. Get it?
Good video. Amazing channel
The whole video was to say that E stand for Expanded but there was no technical explanation about what is the difference.
Because literally the only difference between Wi-Fi 6 and 6E is that Wi-Fi 6E supports the 6GHz band. That's only really significant to anyone if they already have a lot of congestion on their 5GHz band.
Tough enough to find outdoor APs that use WPA3 that are budget friendly, so far I only found 2, a Netgear unit and an Engenius in my searches. Need my remote building, 350 feet away to share security cameras and not willing to trench, again, out to that building.. Had TP-Link CPE510s in use, worked great, just with too many campers next door looking for free wifi or trying out their hacking skills, thought put tougher barrier up.. I kept them low so trees would interfere long distance, but they still find a way..
I just want a 802.11ax AP that has 10gb and poe for consumers, cherry on top if it’s all weather as well. When that hits the market, I’ll upgrade to it.
That does sound like a pretty awesome router, hopefully you can find it one day
You missed something pretty significant to the roll out of Wifi 6e. That is, currently the only country to open up the 6Ghz band to unlicensed transmission is the USA.
Many countries have that spectrum associated with other licenced services, meaning it's extremely unlikely that band opens up to unlicensed use in most countries.
You likewise failed to make clear that the only difference between Wifi 6 and WiFi 6e, is the addition of the 6Ghz spectrum. That means most of the world will only get WiFi 6
As of 9 January 2021, there are still no consumer 6e appliances. It's only enterprise currently.
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@@AIRRAZOR44 It aged fine.
What’s the end track? Sounds really good 😌 3:00
It's me or Cnet has been doing better videos lately?😍
I've held off Wifi 6 since Ubiquiti only had WIFI 5 AP units, then 6E is announced and I am still holding off so I can design a system around the Dream Machine Pro and 6E AP units, hopefully early next year. Any news on Unifi's progress with 6E APs?
Shout out to the guy who designed and animated this video’s infographics ✊😎
Nice! Most of those Wifi6 routers out there have Broadcom chips which won't be compatible with Open-WRT anyway. So hopefully a Qualcomm based Wifi 6E router with a cheaper price could soon become a reality..
I hope so. We were looking to invest in a WiFi 6 router & got stopped by minimal support for open firmware & ended up ordering an Archer C7 for half the price as a stopgap. hopefully by the time an OpenWrt 6e router comes out, we can just use the C7 as an AP to help bolster coverage for lower demand devices!
@@chinarut what’s the big deal about that wrt firmware ??!
Love the explanation!
Really well explained 👍🏻
I have a gig connection and wifi 6 its about 30ft away from me in a block house works great speeds are incredible
I see no reason to upgrade from wifi AC. I bought a $400 asus rt 5500 a few years ago. Been great. Then I moved and the new provider included 2 pods/mesh network. A product named plume. Seems to work fine.
The way they keep updating might just wait for wifi 10, lol
Yeah, you probably don't need to unless you either do a lot of data transferring over the local network, have a lot of devices on your network, or you host outdoor parties a lot where the extra range comes in handy.
Does WIFI 6 come up as an option for your SSID to join? Or is this part of WIFI 5? How do you know its working?
I've been watching the CNN channel since like 2008 ever since I got my first iPod Touch that you know new stuff is coming out all the time every year new update and I learned and I learned about different software & how Apps work so by like 2009 i was able to jailbreak itt hings and then I finally got good at being able to jailbreak the ipod touchs with my laptop
So you're telling me to wait six months, got it!!
TH-cam will still buffer
Depending on your net Bandwidth
Idk I think imma stick with WiFi 6, considering how 6E is a new technology, plus I dont think I can take advantage of the 6GHZ port anyways
Great work ❤️🔥
Thank you
Its December but what internet providers will have wifi 6 available I haven't heard anything about that yet
What are you talknig about that free when you buy wifi ax and you just need to buy a over price device becuase wifi 6 like iphone se second geneation.
The absoption spectrum of oxegen nice i cant wait for them to flip the switch
Does it make your existing devices faster or does it just go back to the lower band to communicate with them. In other words do the wifi cards need to be upgraded with a new router.
You won’t see any real benefits if the devices doesn’t support WiFi 6 or 6E, but older Devices will still be able to connect to their supported frequency of 2.4 or 5ghz.
Great explanation and illustration. You guys should take over the IRS and make them understandable now. 😉
Thanks
That was easy to understand 👍👍
So b,g,n,ac,ax were all too confusing extensions. So instead they decided on 6....E - I'll expect 6D, 6N, 6AC, 6AX in a few years, again.
SSDD
Next it will be 7
Which 6E router manufacturer is best?
Holy F---, an additional frequency! That’s worth waiting for. However, what cable should we start installing for future-proofing as these super fast routers come to market? Cat 6e? Cat 7? Cat 8? Fiber optic? Blue ‘smurf’ tubing?
If it's for in-wall installation, Cat 6 is probably the best balance between future-proofing and cost efficiency. It's certified for 10Gigabit speeds at up to 180 ft(55 meters). In the US, we're only just starting to see 2 Gigabit internet speeds being offered through Comcast and Google Fiber, so CAT 6 will have plenty of room for internet speeds to grow and it'll be great for local networks if there are lots of file transfers or video-editing from a NAS or any extremely network-heavy stuff like that taking place.
Thanks
Awesome video 🫡
It would help to add the fact that you would probably have to stand 5-10ft away from your router to take advantage of anything 6E... assuming your device can actually do WifI6 to begin with
Thanks!
I do NOT have even 1 device with an 802.11 "AX" adapter card such as my Samsung TV, wyze and C by GE smart bulbs or even my Samsung note 9 phone. So if I get a wifi 6 router as an upgrade to my wifi 5 "will this make any difference whatsoever"?
Huawei & Xiaomi already have the Wifi 6E router
Huawei 2020 phone also already support the Wifi 6E standard.
bro literally every xiaomi device only has support for 2.4ghz what a joke
@@fxght
Poco F1 support 5GHz.
Will there be wifi 6e mesh hardware out at end this yr or do have wait til 2021
Hi, here is Ry's answer: All we've heard from manufacturers is that we should expect to see new routers that support Wi-Fi 6E by the end of this year (and probably in time for the holiday buying season). Wouldn't be surprising if that included a mesh router or two, but we don't know that for sure yet. Sounds like we'll definitely see a greater variety of options in 2021, and the first phones that support Wi-Fi 6E, too.
Asus has a Wi-Fi 6E router launching on January 29th.
Will phones with Qualcomm 888 be able to take advantage of the 6E variant?
It seems that I am the only one who TH-cam recommended to watch this video from 2020 in 2024 because I still have a Wi-Fi 4 router, a Wi-Fi 5 phone and I am thinking of buying a Wi-Fi 7 router right away.
Large date explained in an easy way.. 👌👌
is wifi 6 suitable for a smart home with 30 devices?
Yes, it would probably help a lot, especially if most of those devices are often being used all at once. Wi-Fi 6 has something called OFDMA that allows it to chop up the available bandwidth and distribute smaller portions of it to each device as needed based on what each device is doing. For example: If you have a Wi-Fi 6 capable device that's just browsing the web and sending e-mails, such as a laptop for work, a Wi-Fi 6 router will dynamically give it significantly less bandwidth while it's doing that, because that's not something that needs a ton of speed in order for it not to slow down, whereas if you have a device such as an Apple TV 4K that is streaming 4K Netflix in the living room, a Wi-Fi 6 router will give that device lots of bandwidth which it needs for data-heavy streaming without interruption(buffering/choppiness).
Basically Wi-Fi 6 is better at intelligently allowing for devices to share the network.
What kind of WiFi capability dose a router have I your country when you order a internet service?
In Denmark you get a 802.11ac but soon we will switch to 802.11ax on fiber.
WiFi 5 was 802.11ac, but why was there an old 802.11g (WiFi 3) Linksys router featured as WiFi 5?
Had to watch it twice because 98% of the video is explaining what WiFi 6 is and only briefly mentions that WiFi 6E adds the 6GHz band before going back to explaining WiFi 6.
I think this was an offer simplification of the concepts
like what concepts were oversimplified or missed? have a different video to watch?
Do you need a good modem to support a router?
Most people are still on "Wifi 5", most new devices barely support Wifi 6 and my ISP doesnt even have a Wifi 6 router option yet. Now we have Wifi 6e? Jeez, my new computer that I bought 3 weeks ago is already out of date 😞
Do the clients have to be able to accept 6e ? What if you bought a laptop a year or two ago. Will it be able to take advantage of the new wifi 6 or wifi 6e?
Thank you, very informative 👏🏼👏🏼👍🏼
Will these cards work on older computers?
Just bought a WI-FI 6 Router in May I had a funny feeling something like this would happen. And I thought I was future proofing. Technology sure is moving fast. We'll be sitting pretty on Mars next. By the time i can afford the WI-FI 6E all the electronics will be too expensive for me so I'll have to wait till my new router doesn't get supported by the manufacturer. That's TP-LINK AX6000.
You didn't really miss anything with Wi-Fi 6E unless you have a really congested 5GHz network already. Wi-Fi 6 was probably the single most significant Wi-Fi update that there has ever been with all of the changes it's brought.
1:58 start for wifi6e
Great video 👍
Cool, Would the range be on a 6ghz transmission? And would be more susceptible to barriers
The range would be lower than 5ghz and it will be much more susceptible to obstruction, that’s just the nature of higher frequencies!
So what’s the 6E protocol?
Bring back your light led light bulb reviews. Like no one else does a good job of lights and color temperature. With work from home, lighting has never been more important. Now run with it!
Do we need to upgrade the wi-fi card on our computers to truly benefit from the new WI-FI 6 routers capabilities?
if you have a computer where you can physically upgrade your WiFi card. so for smartphones, you are looking at getting a new device - one of the flagship models.
@@chinarut I thought so. Thanks for confirming.
Great vid, thanks ! Do you think the iPhone 12 could be wifi 6e, or would it be too soon and we’ll have to wait for this features another year ?
2021 iPhones will have Wi-Fi 6E.
The iPhone 12 series only has Wi-Fi 6.
I have a couple of Google Wi-Fi units that I bought in 2018. And no devices that support Wi-Fi 6 yet.
Google WiFi is still WiFi 5 they haven’t upgraded them. And there are a lot of devices with WiFi 6. Especially phones and mid-top end laptops
Wifi 6 devices are growing. They are still in the minority but increasing. Like rangergun said, many smartphones now come with Wifi 6. Newer laptops have Intel 200 AX wifi cards in them and you can upgrade existing wifi cards on older hardware like I have. So while they are in the minority, their rate of introduction is increasing now that Wifi 6 routers are out. The question might be will there be many Wifi 6E devices in 2021. IoT devices I think will remain mostly 2.4Ghz unfortunately unless they are video streaming IoT devices like Google and Alexa display smart devices.
WiFi 6E is not backwards compatible at all. WiFi 6E routers have the previous versions of hardware built into them also so that older devices can still connect.
6 has better network management. 6E includes a 6Ghz radio.
Not true anymore. They have wifi 6e routers that are compatible with 2.4Ghz and 5Ghz devices now
@@mac1bc 3 years ago, I don't even remember. From my comment I believe the first sentence was quoting content from the video because the second sentence says exactly what you said to me.
I'm confused as we already had Tri-Band routers before the expanded use of 6GHz, I've been out the game for awhile someone please explain?
Very interesting. But is people really measuring real usage? Are most of the users in need to such frequencies? What are the real use cases that will have huge gain and is the trade off between range and broadband a good one? I believe that the optimizations presented in wifi 6 are cool but the trending for 6gb band I can't see a huge impact in our day to day usage...
WiFI 6, now 6E, I was kind of ready to upgrade, but it they want to keep changing things, then I might as well sit it out for a while untill they have a stable offering, that's not going to see me saddled with 'not quite the right tech'.
I would say it's probably safe to upgrade right now. Wi-Fi 6/6E brought about a bunch of significant positive changes and it would be a solid upgrade to any network regardless of whatever Wi-Fi 7 may bring to the table.
I got a WiFi 6 modem/router like a couple months ago though.... 😂😭
Last time I looked I could find the router's but the Wifi adapters were almost impossible to find. You also did not cover the range of the AX and the Expanded router in comparison to the existing routers. This was a failure on your part.
If wifi 6 = 802.11ax, wifi 6e = ??
But IPad air4 supports only WIFI6 but in specs page it shows can handle both 2.5&5Ghz!
Can someone clarify me does it has 6e ?
If it's backward compatible - so it will be a tri-band? 2.4ghz, 5ghz, and 6ghz
Yes, a Wi-Fi 6E router would support all three and they would be completely separate bands.
they really need to open up the lower Ghz bands for better penetration and range!
Hear is a bit of a noob question, but nobody seems to address it. All the 6 & 6E discussion seems to assume unlimited an unlimited bandwidth connection at the router. If you have a 6 or 6E router with multiple devices connected to a 50 Mbps internet connection, will you see any real increase in performance at the device level when all the devices are in heavy use?
I have 100 Mbps and upgraded from a wifi 4 router to a wifi 6. My older devices went from 50 Mbps download speed to 90 but my newer devices stayed the same at 100. Honestly if your on a wifi 4 or older router then yes a wifi 6/6e may improve performance on some devices but if you got a wifi 5 router I doubt you would see much difference.
Lots of tech-savvy people are now using surveillance cameras and media servers within the home. So it's not as unusual that much bandwidth now is generated within the local network. I have an 8 camera surveillance setup that I can access away from home. I also have a Plex server that I am gradually upgrading my movie rips to 4K UHD movies. My current router can sometimes struggle with juggling external streams and internal streams simultaneously. Also, I live near a commercial district with car dealerships, restaurants, and a medical clinic. The 2.4G band is congested and I get lots of interference. My most stable connections are my 5G connections, but they don't penetrate walls very well. I have my servers, cameras, and televisions connected with ethernet cables and gigabit switches. I also find consumer routers severely limited because I cannot create multiple VLANs like I would like to separate my IoT, computers, surveillance, and media streamers into unique VLANs. Not to mention the radios on consumer-grade equipment is pretty bad.
@@darkshadows8347 -Thanks for that. It really addresses my question head on and gives me the info I was missing.
Currently I am running the house on a 2.4/5 Ghz 4G/LTE sim card router ( a real one, not a mobile hot spot). In the beginning it was the best choice speed and cost wise (two phones, 3 iPads, 2 Macs and 2 PCs and 750 Gb of data shared across them for $125 USD equivalent) vs DSL (iffy speeds and high price) or satellite (low speeds and a fortune for the data I need). Coax access just became available but at 50 Mbs (theoretical) and evening speeds are likely to be the same or slower than the 4G.
So no real benefit for me feeding my 4G/LTE Modem/Router signal to a 6G wifi router. I used to have 100Mbs fibre to the house at my old home. I'd have made the jump to 6G for that. May be moving at some point post-virus, so your info will help inform my choices in a new home. Thanks again.
@@streamingjunkie4397 -Thanks for your info too...it will go into the mix--especially 5Ghz wall penetration. Have no issues now, but as noted above I may move and will be sure and do a practical test for that in any new home.
The most interesting part is how people can remember how much money you owe them, down to the penny, but can't remember something as astoundingly simple as 802.11.
Wired is still king in latency and speed. Only do WiFi if it’s hard to route a wire. WiFi 6 and 6E NEEDS your devices (cellphone, PC, Etc.) to support WiFi 6 and 6E or you are just wasting your $$$. Also, know that WiFi is a half duplex tech (you can only send or receive data one at a time). You also only get ~1/3 of the advertised speed in real life (don’t confuse link speed with throughput). 6ghz will allow faster data transfers but if you thought your 5GHZ range was bad get ready to be even more disappointed. The higher the frequency, the harder it is for the signal to go through walls.
I'm guessing the 6ghz band is even worse than 5ghz for signal and transfer speeds through walls?