Swimbait Master Class, What you need to know to make swimbaits
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ก.ค. 2024
- In this video I cover the swimbait design elements you need to know if you are interested in making your own swimbaits or you just love to fish with them.
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Thanks EA (Franko), that's was perfect explanation....
Glad you liked it!
Franco, I really appreciate the engineering approach to lure making. Understanding how and why lure characteristics affect action has allowed me to make better decisions in my own attempts at lure making.
It’s also helpful when shopping for lures because I can better anticipate action based on the same principles.
Tip of the cap to you! 👏🏽
Thanks for the tips Franco! Swimbaits always seem so daunting between the body segments, properly weighing them, trying to get a good action from them, etc. Appreciate the simple breakdown!
You bet!
Some folks show how they build a lure, but don't explain the process. Some explain lure 101 making techniques. While others give only a few advanced tips.
I absolutely love Franco's Lure Building College Classes!!! I learn so much on this channel and have applied a lot of the information passed along here. I love making swimbaits and glidebaits. Thank you for all you do Franco!
After watching this video again, I did have a question. When adding weight in the bottom of each segment to have a level even fall, is it better to add weight to the center of the segments or closer to the joints of the segments? Which areas are best for the best action? My guess is probably center of mass between the joints (on the belly of the lure of course).
That's a interesting topic...I'll get into it on the next video.
Thanks Franco, looking forward to the rest of the series!
You had a couple points about joint placement and number of segments that reminded me of a research paper on fish swimming. To sum up, the researchers found that they could simulate almost any type of fish body motion with as few as five body segments. To copy different types of swimming motions they simply moved the joint positions and changed the segment length. Fish have so many vertebrae in part so they can dynamically change the location of these theoretical joint centers to optimize their swimming motion for efficiency, acceleration or whatever.
When we are making lures we have to make those decisions ahead of time but it’s cool to see some of the principles you talk about in lure building show up in biology research.
I’ve tried to link to the article but my comment keeps getting taken down. If anyone wants to read the primary source the title of the article is: Automatic segmentation of fish midlines for optimizing robot design
Past that into google scholar and it should come up with a PDF version available.
That's really interesting, thanks for sharing.
Great video! Absolutely great. I building small trout baits for 10 years, but in the last few weeks I got into swimbaits, which for me is a new territory. I was wondering of some stuff myself, but you seved me tons of time to experiment and throw 😃 when I'm fully done, you got a present from me! I promise!
Wow, thanks Franco, that was awesome 👌 so much information packed in, explained so clearly. I am currently sitting in the shed clear coating a wooden version of your recent lexan lipless crankbait. Got the notification, as I was coating, clicked watch straight away (of course!), lures spinning beside me, EA video playing...Does it get any better? Thank you, thank you, thank you! I will be coming back to this video again, that's for sure. Bring on part 2!
That is gratifying to hear... thanks
Good video. Motivates me to get off my lazy ass a build one of these, been about 10 months since i built anything. Can't wait for the next video.
Once again an awesome video. This is realy helping me out alot. Realy looking forward for part 2.😊
Glad to hear it!
Great information in this one, just as enjoyable as usual.
I have an idea for you to try if you like it. Could you make a hinged lure with a soft skin that covers the hinged part ? I was thinking you could get a really good action and have a more natural look because you can't see the breaks in the hinged part. You're welcome to use my question and reword it.
These videos are very interesting, I have more ideas for lures that would catch fish. I'm slowly learning how to make them.
Cheers Franco. Love these master classes.
Cheers
I'll be watching this video, along with part 2, several times... as I did with your videos explaining how to calculate weight to put in lures.
I've never been one to rock the boat... but I'll be creating a lot more turbulence from now on, thanks to you!
Great video Franco!!! Bring on Part 2
That cleared up a few questions I had. Cheers Franco
Great information! I'm in the middle of creating my own design and I've been having issues with my bait rolling to the side almost immediately when retrieved and also if sitting still sinking nose first. You gave me some things to think about! Thank you, love your videos.
Glad it was helpful!
Excellent. Very informative and practically useful.
Glad you think so!
Very nice video. Rly like the idea of a step by step series how to build your Swimbaits 😃👍
Glad you liked it!
Thanks Franco for all the insight and content we appreciate you. Happy Father’s Day my good sir. 🏴☠️🪕
I appreciate that
@@EngineeredAngler we are thankful as a community here! Look at all the people you encourage and guide through making these baits/lures. We appreciate you Franco sir! 🙌
Thank you so much.
Great video as usual. Thanks for the info. I appreciate all your videos. You should really write a book on all this. I know I would enjoy the read. Thanks again.
Maybe one day!
This was a very helpful video! Thank you
Glad it was helpful!
This was fantastic - so much great info, thanks Franco!
Glad it was helpful!
Tons of info packs in this one folks!
Thank you for this sir!
Just started making lures. Going through your videos. Just subscribed. Thanks for all of your knowledge and information.
Awesome! Thank you!
Hello Franco. I have made one piece swim baits that have a wide “S” pattern that work for northern pike where I am.
However, I am going to see what I can do with a two piece with your help.
Thank you for part one, looking forward to part two! From Canada! 👍🏻🎣🇨🇦
Good luck
Luv your videos. So informative.i would like to see a video on swivel hook hangers. I've seen them on swimbaits and don't know how they are installed.
Your videos never disappoint!
Thanks
Thank you for all the great information!!
You bet!
Thanks a lot!! Master classes on swimbaits are needed!!!
Glad you like them!
Looking forward to this series!!! I tried to make a swimbait without doing much research and of course it did NOT swim haha... these videos will definitely help
My brain hurts😅
The tip on determining the tie on point was very helpful. Honestly I have always just winged it and now I'm even more amazed that some of my swim baits turned out so well and have a better understanding of why others didn't. It's a lot more complicated than I realized. Looking forward to the second part as always. Cheers from Bali.
Great videos with a lot of info. These are the really juicy videos any lure maker looks for. Thanks a lot again!!!
I appreciate that!
You are awesome man!!! Thanks for your content and work!🎉
I appreciate that!
Really appreciate you sharing this information with us. Really a great video. Can't wait for the next one
Thanks for watching!
What about glides. I am in the process of making one myself and want to make the least amount of mistakes possible while still having a nice wide glide pattern and having it suspend when paused.
Thank you for making this video!
Loving ya work
Thanks
Love your show. Learned a lot from them. Looking for away to make prerigged worms like Kelly's worm or K and E worms. If you know if you can share. I would be very thankful. Tight lines from Michigan
Very nice vidéo 👍 but just a little correction, front eye dont need to bé at thé center of volume a1=a2
Its a good rule of thumb to keep your swimbat dynamically stable.
Hi Franco! As always a great video... I have a question - or maybe more of a suggestion for a future video. As a fisher who mostly hunt after big pikes here in Sweden, I really like the lures that - when you twitch them - gives a good sidemovement. So they "peel of to the side". As an idea - would it be possible to get a big softbait (about 20+cm) with a tail to have a action where it stands out to the side after a twitch? I´m thinking that a softbait with a hinge would want to peel of to the side when twitched... or will the center of drag become an issue? Anyhow - just something that´s been on my mind for a while! Looking forward to your future videos!
Friday mornings I look forward to them.
Great Video, ur genius isnt appreciated enuff on the algorithm
Tell me about it
First, thanks for your work producing your videos.
I am in the middle of trying to make a whitefish-shaped swimbait. to complicate things I 3d print my lure. To date, my big problem is too much stability everything comes back like a torpedo, at least in tub tests. Going off of today's video, I have made some adjustments to V1 of the lure I had the line tie basically coming out of the center of the mouth (dud). V2 I moved it to the top of the nose, and there is a hint of wiggle (I am going to retest it in a pond to see if the problem is just running in a tub on a short string.
V3 is on the printer now, at this point, I just used the center of mass, which ended up being halfway between the two previous versions. The ballast is right under the center of mass for each half. I am just using a single looped wire hinge.
Good luck
@@EngineeredAngler, to report back, it does swim and stays stable at different speeds. Having more amplitude in the swimming action at low speed would be nice. But I guess you can expect only so much from a single join lure. I did not completely finish the lure. No filled ballast holes or paint, and top coat. So it was just barely buoyant. It did not have a ton of glide it just sort of turned the corner and stops.
Great video, thanks! Where do you prefer placing the weights on a two piece glide/swimbait? And why there?
Those multi segment lures must take a huge amount of patience. I'm more of a one piece lure type of guy!
Yes they do
Man, I love the videos really good information always but I have a question you were talking about the 25% 1/3 or 1/2 cut line on your swim baits. Have you ever done like 9/16 or 5/8 or 11/16 of the way back and what do you think it would it do to the action of it?
I really hadn't paid much attention to how a "bait" fish swam,, until I started watching you!
But now that I'm paying attention, I've noticed that a lot of fish propel their body through the water by only moving the last quarter of their body. Namely, the "tail" section, while the rest of the body is relatively motionless,, especially the head. It doesn't move side to side unless it's turning directions.
So how, in building a swimbait lure, do you get the head to remain still (not side to side) while still imparting side to side motion in the tail section??
Watch part two...
i'll probably never MAKE one but at least now I know why the ones I buy off Amazon don't work worth a damn
Excellent point.
I just started making swimbaits, so I am locked in on this series now lol. How do you know how much lead to add? I thought you had a vid about it, but couldn't find it. Thanks again! Great vid!
I have Some level of explanation and just about every lower build video I have made. You should check them out if you're interested in lure building, there's a lot of other information in there as well.
Great info as always! Is there a rule of thumb to determine how long or wide a lip should be?
Not really...it's so dependent on the style of lure.
Oh wow is this the new intro? Frikkin 🎉😢sweet
In case of a V-shape: When deciding where to make the cuts for sections, should the V start at the cut line or should the center of the V allign with the cut line? (So I>, >I or in the middle; the I beeing the cut for the section.) Or should the cut allign with the final joint axis?
Good question I'll cover it in the next one...
this is so timely my son is home from collage and asked me to make him a swimbait. I'm interested in the "banner hinge" the thought was to make the bait skinny. Is skinny a problem when trying to get action?
Skinny will work fine...have fun.
Thanks for the tips. Keep it up , have you ever tried to make a pike swimmbait?
How about this
th-cam.com/video/Y26X-o077Us/w-d-xo.html
@@EngineeredAngler ok, thanks.
Im a new swimbait maker. Iv got a single jointed bait im working on. It swims very stable going slow but starts to belly roll at faster speed. I tried doin an 8% micro ballon ratio but that made it worse. Next im going to try a 12% micro balloon and add extra lead to belly to see if that stables it up. Explaining ratio difference and lead placement and what it does to action would be helpful tips. My goal is a glide bait style swimbait that can be retrieved slow, fast, also glide wide an slow on twitches of the real. Also my bait when i try to "walk the dog" with ot back an forth it only will go one direction? Always popping to the left for some reason never back an forth?
Your problem is probably not weight and balance...sounds like a symmetry problem.
@@EngineeredAngler maybe so. Carved it out of basswood by hand so im sure its not perfect.
I have a question that has nothing to do with swimbaits... Why do banana shape lures have such a wide action?
If you're talking about crankbaits, the shape has very little to do with how wide the action is. You watch my crankbait master classes...lots of info in those vids.
how much do tail fins and top fins effect your action
Keep an eye out for part 2
Are you able to easily make a swimbait on the lathe?
Not really...it can be done but perfectly round bodies don't swim that great.
what type of wood? cedar, maple? what are the different options for the hinges? screw eyes one segment, the other part a wire that runs down the lure through the eyes. how to keep the wire in place and flush? thank you so much
does a slimmer bait go side to side more easily and faster? also by adding a brush tail, does it affect alot the swim?
I cover much of this on many of my swimbait builds...I think you would get many of your questions answered watching those videos. Here's a playlist: th-cam.com/play/PLEVBv_zywucS1ZO97qP9EJsnqsHeNHpdN.html
Cheers.
thank you very much will watch and take notes
Screw eyes link on Amazon??
No...I get them from lure parts online
@@EngineeredAngler thanks
Think you confused some. Lol when’s the final exam?