I would like to have seem the difference in resistance between the two transformers before being cut up. Ideally they should have the same/similar turns ratio, even if they look different.
I’m talking to someone on the f150 forum to get their original coil. I still have the cheap one I bought and I’ll buy the updated one again. I’ll follow up in a few weeks with another video on some performance testing if I can
@@SmackeysGarage sounds good. I know if other manufacturing industries, a company will have specifications and drawings for a product, and will have many vendors make these parts to supplement their own stock. They don't always have to be identical in the workings, but they do have to perform to a certain spec. I'm unsure if that's the case in this example, but I wouldn't be surprised if motorcraft had contracted out parts to outside vendors to produce. Especially after the EOL of a product for the original manufacturer can get near, yet they still want to be able to provide aftercare service at a minimal level.
Great comparison! Great to see OEM compaired to aftermarket, I always figured there had to be a significant difference from OEM parts, I had a dodge journey and one of the coils failed, I replaced it with a aftermarket one and it was the first to fail again the next time, I figured then that it was inferior to the OEM.👍
I got a counterfeit "Motorcraft" air filter for my Escape wouldn't fit correctly. Amazon basically told me to piss off that I couldn't prove it. So I don't buy anything from Amazon anymore.
When I have some time I’ll try and dig through the reviews. Not sure it would throw a CEL but the output of voltage would definitely be different. I’ll see what I can dig up tonight.
I just saw your post over on the F150 Forum about this. I have a 2015 F150 5.0 and I bought the coil pack from Ebay. I'm starting to suspect that they are very convincing fakes. I've had nothing but trouble for the last 4000 miles since I've changed them. I've changed my spark plugs 3 times because of misfire issues. Yes, 3 times!!! The spark plug electrodes are MELTING from getting too hot. I'm really suspect if its not the coils causing this.
Were they super cheap compared to OEM ones? I have to post there that I finally finished the video. That's crazy that you've changed plugs 3x because of misfire issues! I'd consider buying coils from a dealer directly and see how they compare. If you do get rid of them might be worth taking them apart somewhat to see if they are similar.
Motorcraft legit bags have a vent hole with a flap. On the back side of the bag by each bottom corner. The fake ones don't have that. I question if either of those coils were true oem parts. I say this because the was no witness mark where the plug goes.
@@SmackeysGarage fordtechmakuloco did a episode on this. Everything he said to look for was true for the ones that I bought from the dealer. Yours had everything except the mark and I don't know about the bag vent holes.
@baddrivercam I’ll check it out. Thanks for pointing me in that direction. I’ll probably stop at the dealer and see if I can grab one direct from them.
I've bought plenty of parts from legitimate sellers on eBay as well as directly from ford dealers through ebay. Definitely check the listing and reviews.
Awesome video brother. Thanks for sharing. Keep the content coming. Hope you have an incredible weekend. Nice comparison. Much love and RESPECT
Thanks Tim! Have a great weekend as well!!
I would like to have seem the difference in resistance between the two transformers before being cut up. Ideally they should have the same/similar turns ratio, even if they look different.
I’m talking to someone on the f150 forum to get their original coil. I still have the cheap one I bought and I’ll buy the updated one again. I’ll follow up in a few weeks with another video on some performance testing if I can
@@SmackeysGarage sounds good. I know if other manufacturing industries, a company will have specifications and drawings for a product, and will have many vendors make these parts to supplement their own stock. They don't always have to be identical in the workings, but they do have to perform to a certain spec.
I'm unsure if that's the case in this example, but I wouldn't be surprised if motorcraft had contracted out parts to outside vendors to produce. Especially after the EOL of a product for the original manufacturer can get near, yet they still want to be able to provide aftercare service at a minimal level.
Great comparison! Great to see OEM compaired to aftermarket, I always figured there had to be a significant difference from OEM parts, I had a dodge journey and one of the coils failed, I replaced it with a aftermarket one and it was the first to fail again the next time, I figured then that it was inferior to the OEM.👍
That’s a good experience to share Mitch! Definitely if something is 1/10th the price you expect to get a different level of quality.
I got a counterfeit "Motorcraft" air filter for my Escape wouldn't fit correctly.
Amazon basically told me to piss off that I couldn't prove it.
So I don't buy anything from Amazon anymore.
and that is why you never buy car parts from Amazon
It would have been awesome to see the coil current ramps of each.
How do I do that? Do I need an oscilloscope?
@@SmackeysGarage It's the only way I know how. And the only oscilloscope I know of that can record is the Pico unit which is kinda stupid expensive.
It would be interesting if you put in the fake coil if your truck would throw a check engine light or if there would be any driveability issues.
When I have some time I’ll try and dig through the reviews. Not sure it would throw a CEL but the output of voltage would definitely be different. I’ll see what I can dig up tonight.
I just saw your post over on the F150 Forum about this. I have a 2015 F150 5.0 and I bought the coil pack from Ebay. I'm starting to suspect that they are very convincing fakes. I've had nothing but trouble for the last 4000 miles since I've changed them. I've changed my spark plugs 3 times because of misfire issues. Yes, 3 times!!! The spark plug electrodes are MELTING from getting too hot. I'm really suspect if its not the coils causing this.
Were they super cheap compared to OEM ones? I have to post there that I finally finished the video. That's crazy that you've changed plugs 3x because of misfire issues! I'd consider buying coils from a dealer directly and see how they compare. If you do get rid of them might be worth taking them apart somewhat to see if they are similar.
They're ignition coils or coils for short a coil pack serves 2 or more plugs via plug wires
Thanks for that correction.
Motorcraft legit bags have a vent hole with a flap. On the back side of the bag by each bottom corner. The fake ones don't have that. I question if either of those coils were true oem parts. I say this because the was no witness mark where the plug goes.
Interesting. I’ll have to check that out.
@@SmackeysGarage fordtechmakuloco did a episode on this. Everything he said to look for was true for the ones that I bought from the dealer. Yours had everything except the mark and I don't know about the bag vent holes.
@baddrivercam I’ll check it out. Thanks for pointing me in that direction. I’ll probably stop at the dealer and see if I can grab one direct from them.
@@SmackeysGarage I'm definitely interested in what you find out
I'm cofused, are these counterfeit, or just an earlier version?
I can’t definitively say yet. I’m working to get an original from a truck that’s gone bad to compare.
and that is why you never buy car parts from Ebay
I've bought plenty of parts from legitimate sellers on eBay as well as directly from ford dealers through ebay. Definitely check the listing and reviews.
Check the performance of them and then do a real review