Lotus Exige vs. Apache Helicopter | Top Gear
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- Jeremy and Richard introduce the new Lotus Exige, which has been specifically engineered for America. Jeremy then takes it out for a test drive and decides to see how it compares to an Apache helicopter - literally.
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one of the best car ever made , its masterpiece such a superb design .
Richard Murasaki couldn’t agree more! I owned an Elise and now an Exige S and they are phenomenal cars
Please learn English
Well look who's running their mouth instead of shutting the fuck up
Same, it embraces the "form follows function" so well! Every single line in this car is there for a purpose!
Ive had an Apache for a little over two years now. The performance is top notch what more can be said! For the interior I had to install drink holders and an ashtray plus a whole new sound system with MP 3 compatibility. I re-did all the consoles in carbon fiber, the weapons console I had my friend make up one in burled walnut. The seats are now white leather.
The color may have been sexy at one time but I went with a lemon yellow pearl finish, the radar dome I did in cherry red and the stub wings I did in black with silver ascents. The missiles i did in cherry red and the gun I went for florescent orange just to give it some flash. I upgraded the landing gear tires to yokohama slicks.
Videogames doesn't count
Lmao
@@aitortilla5128 r/wooosh
This is the best rant I have ever seen
@@aitortilla5128 If there is a game like that I would be the most staunch follower!
I have to say. The more and more and more I watch these videos. The more I come to realise the Top Gear camera crew and music crew can put together some of the best looking, best emotion stirring videos out there.
The Lotus Exige is among one of the top 5 best cars ever made. It's unfortunate that most of them get abused by their owners and it's so hard to find a nice one.
Well they were driven like they were supposed to be.
@@oneminuteerik584 like they it stolen at a track day
the apache is NOT ugly!
yeah I don't understand his taste in advanced military helicopter
Jack Suminsby It's a term for something in the Military. Like the A10 "Ugly"
It's only ugly in comparison to something like the Cobra
It's Just The Same As Any Attack Or Passenger Helicopter.
It’s a killer!
That time is insane, wonder how it would have done on a bone dry track.
5:12 for Motorhead
That's like putting a Saturn V engine in a food blender so said Jeremy Clarkson
Alucard Hellsing hahaha I need to get a sticker on my Exige with this quote... then when anyone asks I can just point them in this direction
When I owned my Exige, I would watch this video anytime I was sad. Instantly cheered me up.
Why did you sell it?
@@tonydelo7292 I was buying a house and it was pretty much my down payment on it.
@@lightning5273 I have black Exige S2..just like that. 2008. 19.5k miles. Selling it. Interested it?
@@tonydelo7292 This is youtube, not 6speedonline or lotustalk... What are you asking for?
The Apache is the rawest combat helikopter ever build!!! It's not ugly.
Literally the single most beautiful car I have ever seen in my life.
wait wait wait wait... what america has emission rules??? aren't they the ones that make and sell the Hellcats with 6.2L V8 Motors???
xNinjaGaming plenty of catalytic converters in America... on the camaro I believe there's 4
AdamMTBMX we have some of the most restrictive emmissions rules in the world.
@@IzajResGS Literally nothing in that sentence is true
@Galaxial Pharmaceutical right...
@random panda on the internet love you too
"The best helicopter in the world, flown by the best pilot in the world, or in the British Army, against the best the best handling car in world, driven by an idiot."
xD
+burnoutpro15 that sums up why Top Gear is the greatest
The apache is american invinted and also i love america but actually the best pilots are israely
+edwin myrick No their not and you cant even spell it. Also the agusta westland apache isnt the same as the american longbow apache.
+eraldorh wow sorry bro I think we can say in that fact that both apaches are equal in their awesomeness
+edwin myrick Nope the Westland is the only one capable of landing on a ship. Gives it an edge.
2:08 LOLOLOL you know it's good when a legend who goes over 100mph+ every day can't contain his excitement :)
btw Song at 4:00 is Motorhead - Ace of Spades
to know how small this car is 2:26
lucky being as asian this car fits me perfectly.
I kinda envy you... I don't think I would fit in an Exige that perfectly... LOL
Fits you perfectly? Hmm, being 5'4, I'll probably fit in well too
BlueRice i am a 6ft american and i fit just right in them
@@ryvoltz tbf Jeremy is 6 ft 5
Did he just sad the apache was ugly?
jeffrey kuppen It is. Seriously, anyone with any sort of aesthetic sense will tell you that it is ugly. Maybe not as ugly as a Hind, but still.
But the thing is, we just love how beautifully ugly it is :)
FokkerBoombass are u saying apache is ugly(thats the only thing i care xD)
jeffrey kuppen Not as ugly as Ka 25
*****
its a beautiful killing machine ;P
+jeffrey kuppen Beauty is subjective.
Well obviously, if I read this :D
Exige: passes a 911 GT3 RS on slicks on a wet track
Exige: "... and this is not my final form"
"It corners like a house fly"
Love that they played Motörhead for the heli bit🤘🏼🤘🏼
1:46 "V-tech kicked in yo"
*VVTL-I kicked in yo
Thank you for the info. I only pointed out the lack of inlet ramps because some one said the F22 could be faster than the SR71. While it is a fantastic plane with superb range and agility, the F22 is not specialized for high speed reconnaissance the way the SR71 was. In the end this is like comparring a top MMA fighter to a elite marathon runner. In their perspective fields they are god like, but switch tasks and they are fish out of water. Still the F22's power to weight ratio is incredible.
I just got a 2006 Exige :3
cool
The helicopter is an amazing piece of masterpiece!! I love the engineering of the apache and the looks of it as well 😍😍
i love the new rear wings their putting on them these days. And when i was having a look around murray motors (edinburgh) when my dads type 25 elise was getting its stage 3 exhaus fitted :) and there was a really beautiful black and gold exige s, i think it was a type 72. But it was soooooooooo beatiful. And so was the exige cup 270, And then there were the evoras, both stunning cars and suprisingly big
This car suits hammond best...
"We're all Apache Helicopters now" ~Soldier 69, 20XX.
Two amazing machines in this vid. I love the Elise and Elise exige so much.
4:42 Mentions radar and gets shot of the optics. The radar is the mushroom above the rotors
UUUH SHET, IT'S MOTORHEAD!!! *foams at the mouth*
+Eggly Bagelface tears in my eyes now mate!
Prakhar Aggarwal :,(
Wow i was there on that show 14 years ago i can see my self in the back ground, dam time flys,
wow this is so old! brings back the memories just look how Clarkson looks and stig's helmet
I love how Clarkson explains the DOHC in the 2ZZ Toyota engine in this like it was a brand new thing. I know this is an old episode and I know Clarkson is old, but the use of dual cams in road cars has been a thing since 1910
amazing handling, i'd love one of these!
Same
love it when top gear does outragous version
Drove an orange one yesterday, around NYC and New Jersey... Un-freaking-believable!! LOVED IT!!!
Big W for the Top Gear editing crew. Ace of Spades & an Apache helicopter goes together like a duck to water
I like how Jezza still manages to remain smug Brit while talking about British army using American Helicopters.
Revamp by the British
Beautiful car, tons of speed, great handling, what more do you want?! The only thing it lacks is the luxury insides that certain brands have, such as Maserati or Aston. Still an amazing car in my opinion.
This is the best review they've done so far. Favorite review 4 my favorite car.GREAT SONG
Saw a 2007 Lotus Exige in Ardent Red today on my way home from work. Made the hair on my arms stand up straight. Just a marvelous looking car with performance to match. Just gotta start saving up.
Jeremy should review helicopters as well! I enjoyed it's specs when he said it..:)
He's done a couple of films about planes and even got to fly in an F-15 a long time ago
I love Motorhead :)
holafceja I came here to find a comment like this.
I use to work at an exotic car dealership washing cars and this was by far the best car I ever drove when we would go to local events with some of the less expensive cars. I have a full track prepped car that can't turn as good as this little car. I saw they are going for less or around 20 grand now. Might make a fun toy. I'm going to miss the old TG crew.
2:08, look at him, he's so happy!
I love the maniacal laughs... I think it's a good representation of my own reactions :)
Jeremy Clarkson would be a great American because he loves power and his favorite phrase is" POWER"
my brother got an Elise, and it is such a fun car, the only problem is getting in, and the leg space.
There was a full 2-3 minutes of cat and mouse that they cut from from here, including when he tried stopping directly underneath the chopper but them got blown out by the rotors downwash.
I miss old top gear, when they used to do proper reviews like this!
Apache Longbow*
The radar version is called Longbow. Yeah, the radar dome might look like a tumor, but its still a damn sight more practical than a Hind
They are different, the 64D and the AustaWestland variants. The latter is better then its American forerunner in several areas and isn't worse in any. In terms of weaponry, the updated FCR and RFI electronics suite and better engines.
Though, I definitely wouldn't say it was more practical then a Hind. The Apache is significantly less survivable, the Hind has troop carrying capability as well as a weapon suite to match the Apache's effectiveness and comparable fire control, tracking and radar systems. I believe its almost as quick and whilst its less maneuverable, it does have the armoured chassis and ludicrous survivability to make up for that and being, effectively, a squad transport is a major plus too.
When i first saw this on Top Gear, I fell in love with it.. In 2008 I was lucky enough to be able to buy a new Black Exige S which I still own today, I don't think I'll ever sell her..As long as I can buy petrol I'll driver her.. With Lotus you never sick of diving them ..
whoa mate ive been binge watching this all day long and its only the aug 16th and 15th upload parts, each one with a descent ammount of time each video. insane.
6:50 Elise haha
Im an American not a pilot so cant comment on who is the best. I was a contractor and have flown with Brits, Lynx and Merlin, and Americans SH 60, Brits are definitely more entertaining to fly with. The lynx was the first time I was ever upside down in a helo.
+dave runner where the brits making some jokes then?
Actually they were shitting their pants.... almost put it in the drink;;;
Ohhhh ok
RIP Lemmy
a few years ago the amies of U.S and U.K did a top gun comp and the winner was a U.K team in an apache, so i think he was right in saying the BEST PILOTS in the world... :)
OK, so as always the specs have been manipulated or misinterpreted by the media. First off the Apache can carry up-to 16 hell-fire missiles on its 4 under wing pylons in racks of 4. The tips of the wings contain a single pylon (1 per wing) that can can carry a the star-streak anti aircraft missile or sidewinder for air to air self defense. Returning to the Hellfire typically only 2 missile racks are carried one per side with the other two weapons stations carrying rocket pods containing the CV-7. These are a 70mm diameter Unguided rocket and up to 19 can be carried per pod. The rockets can be carried with various warhead and fusing options. All 4 of the main pylons are classed as "wet" meaning they can carry auxiliary fuel tanks or "drop tanks" these increase ferry range, combat endurance or loiter ability of the helicopter but again using the hard points for this role reduces weapons loadout. Finally the cannon can hold upto 1200 rounds of 30mm dual purpose ammunition but a reduced capacity magazine is fitted to allow an auxiliary fuel bag to be carried in its place to increase range and endurance. In Afghanistan British Apaches would carry typically 3-4 hellfire, 16 CV-7 rockets of mixed warhead configuration and about 450-500 rounds of 30mm. The aux fuel tank was fitted to the ammunition magazine. The reduced load saved weight, drag and improved fuel economy, range and loiter over the target area. British Apaches due to their more powerful RollsRoyce engines were able to carry more fuel and weapons than their american cousins in the hot and high environment, The extra power available allowed them to also retain their mast mounted longbow fire control radars. This enabled the crew to have the ability utilize the radars terrain mapping modes as well as giving improved situational awareness of both battlefield and management of air traffic operation within the immediate vicinity.
the wing tips do not have pylons on them ever. we don't use anti aircraft missiles either. hell we barely use the cheese wheel anymore.
Stoneskin Gargoyle the wingtips can carry a pylon for air to air missiles. A single sidewinder can be carried on this station. Or a twin launcher for the stinger missile. I belive a single starstreak cannbe carried and is the missle selected for use by the British Army for self defence. As far as I am aware it has yet to be deployed in combat as the threat of ememy aircraft over our theatre of operations has yet to exist.
they may hve the spots but we never put stuff on them here in the usa not in all my years of working on them or any of my far more experienced buddies have we ever put those pylons on
They do have the mounts, but as you say, they're never used. There hasn't been a combat situation since they've been developed that they've been required to be used. We dominated Iraqi air power, much as it was, and the various terrorist groups we've fought against over the last forty years haven't had any air power to pit it against.
So whilst they can take them, there's yet to be a reason to do so. A war with another major nation would certainly see them adapted, though, as they add marginal weight and provide at least some air-to-air capability.
Damn right its the best helicopter gunship in the world. 'Murica!
Built to British specifications and British upgrades!
+Tn7mu3 LOL.. so it has a tea dispenser and a phone to call America to come save your ass (again)
+GunfightersINC
With the amount of friendly fire the Americans do, parachuting into the enemy would be safer!
The US might have played a part in wars, but they haven't really saved us
+Tn7mu3 you didn't pay attention in history class did you? You brits are just like the french.. I guess we didn't save them either..
+GunfightersINC
Give me an example.
an Apache flew over our school field at break time.
it was awsome
2023 and we have been blessed with a more creature comfort, faster and nicer riding Lotus Emira
"The front splitter and the rear spoiler work together to create real downforce like you get with an F1 car"
Back in the day when downforce was impressive on road cars
I wonder if Lotus replaced Toyota's self destructing oil pump that killed so many VVTL-i engines
***** en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_ZZ_engine#2ZZ-GE "A typical "over-rev" can damage the oil pump, commonly disintegrating the lobe ring, resulting in damage similar to the picture at right." - I'm saying this because I had a 2ZZ-GE's pump fail on me at just 6500 rpm :(
***** I looked on the Toyota forums and found over a two dozen.
***** You are are aware of how few of these engines Toyota made, right? It might be a small % but given the numbers, it's not nothing.
***** www.saxperience.com/forum/showthread.php?t=423605
"As for problems,the early models(01-02) had the oil pumps go but its quite uncommon on the later ones."
www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=8&f=23&t=977446&i=100&mid=0&nmt=Toyota+Corolla+T+sport+190bhp
"Our engines dont loose oil generally and are really well lubricated, but the oil pump has been known to be an issue."
www.civiclife.net/board/topic/135361-toyota-celica-190tsport/
"The main reason for fucked engines is oil starvation, a lot of people tend to down shift badly and over rev the engine massively which will cause the oil pump to break which in turn then starves the engine of oil and boom.. fucked engine."
That's the first three links. Should I teach you how to Google?
***** Actually, I was just pointing out that, despite your assertion, there are plenty of people commenting about the 2ZZ-GE engine. And the 2ZZ-GE is still the engine that went into the Exige.
For example, here's a company that provides updated gears for the oil pump for LOTUS EXIGE engines. www.blackwatchracing.com/Lotus-Elise-Exige-EN24-4340-Machine-Oil-Pump-Gears-p/1149.htm
It reads "This is not an uncommon failure, which WILL destroy the engine with it!"
And here's an uprated oil pump for the Exige that you say is unnecessary.
www.eliseparts.com/products/show/32/1279/uprated-2zz-oil-pump/
"The standard gears are known to shatter in racing applications at high RPM or through cavitation and vibration. This sudden loss of oil pressure can cause catastrophic engine damage."
Yes it does. Emissions standards are regulated by the EPA. There's even a wikipedia article. search for "United States emission standards."
Think the RAF might have something to say about the Army having the best pilots in the world.
I flew this and I'm both a US Army and British Army Apache trained pilot / instructor. It was all a bit of fun, don't take it so seriously!!
12 HF? Missile Lock? and yes of course we'd have used the 30mm cannon and yes a US Army AH Driver could have killed it in 10 secs! So could I in "The Real World"! But then the clip would only last 10 secs!! In the real world the car would just blow up and you wouldn't see the AH!!! Again, not very good TV. This is just a short clip of the bit shown on the TV.
Some of the comments / replies on here are even more BS than the clip… Really people get a life…! I had a great day "Fooling around" and not taking it seriously.
The original plan was to shoot 30mm or CRV7's at a caravan, but the "green" party wouldn't allow us to do it on the range!!
Am I the best AH Driver in the world….? Of course I am!!! :-)
Shaun Wyatt ruski gang
Poor little chopper, not as versatile, simplistic, and reliable as Russian helicopter.
My gender identity 3:58
Bwahahaha. I see what you did there.
“Add lightness and simplify”
*Evija sweats nervously*
emira stand in the same line
@@fastsardine7829 not really. Its over 250 kg lighter and lotus arent even trying with it. They arent using crazy materials/technology hence the much cheaper price tag.
I would take the emira anyday. A manual drivers car that has an actual sound, vibrations and is light? I would take that over an appliance anyday.
To much safety crap they have to pile in them now. Like millions of airbags, cameras all round, GPS tracking, lane assist etc. It all adds weight :/
The old Lotuses were so light because they had none of that. 90% of the car was analogue. Just an ECU for the engine and power assisted brakes. That was it, no power steering, no airbags, traction control etc.
Well, I was gonna paste it, just youtube won't let me, so I'll explain it myself. It is an engine that is very tunable and is made to handle a lot of power while being fuel efficient. It's been used in many Lexus models and from what I've read, it can easily make 400HP.
It has been argued to be the modern 2JZ but with more NA power.
wow thats a weird looking hennessy venom
1 26.9 (respect)
2008 TG : lotus elise 190 hp HARDCORE version, the exige.
I wonder how they would react back then if given the current exige with 430hp from factory.
My dad and my dads mate organised the Apache with the army!! My dad bought his m3 on the year before and said if they wanted an Apache and then bought it on..... he was driven round the track by the sting in a McLaren Mercedes SLR😃😃
YNATZMAMBA 😳😳😳
the best pilots the army!!! ----------RAF are the best
+Bonjaous BAF Problem we have here is that the RAF don't use the Apache......
i know but the RAF have the Chinook, Merlin(moving to Navy), Lynx.
True.
+PCZymosis wouldve ben flown by a AAC (Army Air Corps) Pilot
RAF being in the army is a new one to me... Flying Apaches is also pretty new as well...
As a US Army helicopter pilot, I disagree with parts of this video. I suppose rooting for the home team is ok though.
I disagree too! Also I know American Apache pilots can beat British Army pilots any day of the week, any time of day or year!
Really! Most US Pilots wouldn't pass the UK Course. Why am I qualified to say this… because unlike you I've flown with both and completed both US and UK Apache AQC and CTT. But its all a bit of fun!!
I'm with you on the fun, but saying they wouldn't pass is like saying most the British rugby players couldn’t even play American Football. I'm sure they could, they just don't. What may I ask does the British AQC teach that is outside the relm of US pilot capabilities? This is the only place I have ever heard of the "elite" British Apache pilots.
Scott Woodcock You would need to ask one of the 'Elite' US Army Apache pilots that have done the UK course to get a fair answer. We don't have the numbers you have so have to be more selective and have a higher standard at the end of the AQC equivalent. I'd class all AH Pilots as "Among" the elite!! I'm sure we both have good and not so good pilots!!
But back to the point, the video was all a bit of fun and a great day out! If your an AH driver you know what is correct and what isn't! And what makes good TV etc!!
"To those like us"
Shaun Wyatt You loser don't have a stronger military get over yourselves
this car handles like a dream.i heard u can take a 90 degree corner at like 60 and keep a lane.its like its on tracks.and weighing less than a ton wit 190hp,dats amaza-zing.
gotta love the 2zzge!!!
Voltic vs Buzzard
VenomHadesExtra Buzzard is based on the MH-6, not the Apache
2:08 :D
Originally made in America, sold to and improved on by the British, who now also use an upgraded version. So both sides use the same damn awesome helicopter.
this is probably the WAH-64, an American Apache AH64-D, upgraded by the UK company AugustaWestland.
British Army the best pilots in the world?!?! The BRITISH ARMY?!?!?! Wow, ok!!
ThaOlBoy Who do you think it is then? You are probably one of these people that think the US Marines are more dangerous than the SAS. The american propaganda from hollywood certainly seems to be working.
Not at all. I don't bleed everything American. What I DO KNOW is that the American chopper boys get more fly time and combat experience than anybody else on the planet; short of the Israelis.
I believe in being patriotic to your country however you would never hear myself make a blind statement such as that one. "Best pilots in the world?" I guess the narrator never heard of US Navy pilots and the requirement to land on a moving aircraft carrier day/night?
thenutlow No. Israeli pilots are probably the best.
Lol that's what I said.
ThaOlBoy why do you people take it seriously?
8 hellfire missiles. 8. not 12. good vid though. =)
It CAN carry up to 16 (4 per Pod), but in that case the Hydra (FFAR) Pods are missing.
It weighs less than a ton but you get 190 horsepower...That's like putting a saturn five rocket in a food blender! Lol!! Love that line.
hmmm i remember when i was a kid my favorite toy that i would play everyday was a apache gunship and some tanks as enemies :D
LOl beat the GT3
Wow awesome editting showing the actual chase.
not only that but a car at the price of 30,000 pounds which is less then 50k USD that can top a 911 which goes around around 3x the price in USD. Astonishing
the double cam is amazing.
And the engine in the exige is from a Toyota as clearly stated in the video. The l4 was actually designed by both toyota and yamaha. But it's still japanese.
That was actually tactically relevant demonstration and training. As civilian cars can be outfited with weapons. MANPADS and heavy machine guns. If Lotus offroad 4X4 version of Elise or Evora....
Apache is an Attack Chopper, its maneuverability is very high for that of a chopper.
aaahh that bass from lemmy was a classy touch
those parts are all interchangable (I guess) what isn't (and therefore determines how good it is) are things such as speed, agility and maximum altitude..
6:12 - the more realistic version of Top Gun: Maverick when an F-14 went against Su-57s. It's not the plane, it's the missile targeting systems!
who noticed that from 6:48 then to 6:50, that JC said 'elise' instead of 'exige'
the way he described the engine sounds like the VTEC system in Hondas
it's called TREAD pattern, not thread. They give more grip in the dry and very little in the wet
@unboxingboy38 The first car at 0:26 was a regular Elise, while the one at 5:40 is the Exige
Love that they acknowledge the Apache would never engage at such a short distance
I'll agree [reluctantly] that the Type R engine is an amazing peice of engineering but it still lacks the punch delivered by the 3S-GTE. If you've never tried you should give yourself the opportunity to drive a 3S-GTE powered vehicle.
Besides, they've made the odd choice to use a Celica engine - I just think it would be poetic to make that upgrade. Afterall, even the "Ultimate 7th Gen celica" developed by one of the millens used that swap to great results, as did the HKS Supra.