I think it depends on the media we ingest. Dexter Filkins and other reporters went into great detail about the war, the factions and their levels of violence. Frontline on PBS then contextualized the known reporting into some outstanding 2 hour long documentaries that dig into the origins of ISIS, the sectarian violence from neighborhood to neighborhood that compounded. There are several of them but here's a more recent one from 2016: www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/film/the-secret-history-of-isis/
I really appreciate you sharing some of the gruesome details that normally get skipped over. I think it's important to understand the level horror, terror, and everyday violence these Animals inflicted upon their people.
@@MM-eo2oz as an american that is foolish in my opinion. We created this problem in the 70s with the mujahadeen. We shouldnt be over there right now. Same with vietnam. Makes no sense to have as much hubris as we have when everyone is in debt and on pills. I love america but its not cleaning anything up.
Thank you jocko for everything,I'm a young teenager and im training for becoming a frog man, you also got me working out with my dad which was a big thing for Both of us we've really bonded, I have been reading tons,swimming in the icy ocean,running over the VERY sandy hills in a sugar cookie(if you know what I mean),and shooting guns at targets,thank you sir🤙
As a Scientist/Nerd, I used to be really judgmental of the "Jocks"/Meatheads and thought they were "Primitive Savages" who were duped by the politicans. This podcast has really opened my mind to how ignorant, and just blatantly wrong I was. I now have incredible admiration and respect for all Military personnel. After all the stories I've heard of you describing the enemy, It really made me realize how fucking lucky and spoiled I was to live in a land of Freedom and resent the people who provide me that. I'm truly grateful for these incredible men and woman who take it on them risking life and limb to protect ungrateful turds like me. I've been humbled and even been inspired by it to reach new goals. It's a whole new motivation for me. I used to get mad and angry at problems I wouldn't understand. Now every struggle is GOOD. It gives me a better chance to improve so that the next time I can annihilate the problem, and the "discipline insurgents" with precision, and alacrity.
There's something besides education that marks someone as being smart. Being an open mind. Your post here tells me you're pretty smart. I don't have the kind of education that you most likely have. That is a guess on my part. I do have a very broad range of Interest and can converse intelligently on many of them. I also try to keep an open mind. You can be thrown buckets upon bucket mud which is a lot I call either garbage information or improperly interpreted information or just bad information. I have learned that if you sift through it with a little effort once in awhile you find a nice little Raw diamond that little nugget can fit a whole in a whole different thought process or idea. I also found that you can get some really good truths from the most outrageous and absurd sources. But if you don't go through the process of listening or waiting through the mud you'll never find them. It is okay to challenge what you believe to be true. If it is the actual truth it will with stand the challenge. If not then you have redefined the truth or can search for the truth. Always remember the truth is not the only goal oh, it's the journey to get there that counts just as much.
Good on you brother. I’d expect nothing less from a scientist. Listen to different opinions with an open mind and the base your judgement with all the information
Next: Listen to Jocko's current review of "The Psychology of Military Incompetence" and realize that you shouldn't blanket "all" military personnel with that admiration and respect.
The division is certainly an issue. But another issue is that you shouldn't have added the "S" to the word "Other". I'm severely triggered and traumatized because of you for this.
I am 70 years old. I have experienced a great deal in my short life time. I feel so blessed that we have men like Jocko and Darryl . These men bring truth to a young generation that needs the truth badly. I sorely wish I had the insights and wisdom that these two men bring to life, and presented to me, when I was a newly enlisted 18 year old. Thank you so much and keep up the great work, you are contributing to the education of many young men and enlightening a few old bastards like myself.
That was some disturbing stuff. Started to listen to the next episode after this right away but had to switch to some Norwegian Satan worshipping music for some light entertainment.
Does anyone have a link to the account by Dr Shahristani? I can find bits and pieces of it but not the transcript he is quoting. Found it after hours of searching. It isn't in a news article or video interview (that I could find); It's from a book called The Great War for Civilisation: The Conquest of the Middle East.
Been eagerly awaiting the return of this podcast. For me, it's some of the most important work you've put out. Episodes 1 to 7 gave me insights and insider perspectives on the Iraq War that I have NEVER heard before. Thank you so much for this!!
I agree with you Jocko about the connection with history and how the economy is connected with this as well.. all subjects are connected even if it is minute.. I remember the first terrorist attack was against the Marine baracks in Lebanon. All things are connected if you dig deep enough you see how they affect each other..
Thank you for this series. It gives me some insight what my s.o. went through in Iraq. He does not like to talk about what he experienced and I don't want to push him but this helps me to understand just a little bit. As a nurse, I have worked with many vets but never fully comprehended the horrors they saw...
Kia Ora again from New Zealand...again. Sorry I misnamed you earlier Darryl. I should go to specsavers. Thankyou for bringing these tough truths to the fore. I can't begin to imagine stuff my eyes have never seen. We're thankful for the men and women giving their lives every single day to protect our lands and people. If i could want one thing for you all besides peace (sorry you'd be out of a job ;) ) it would be less political/govt/civi imput from those who have no idea what you do, or why and how you do what you do. Our Politicians at times have put our NZDF, SAS and missions at risk by pandering to a "public needs to know where and how funding is used" or they want to pull their moral standards out expecting our troops are in alignment with their/public expectations..Need to know means just that...I'm glad at least spec ops have the best/high tech gear to do the job. Stay well gentlemen and thankyou again.
When I started HS in 1976 (Catholic HS), they had just ended their Latin and French program and religion and philosophy were watered down. We had no thread either. I didn’t go to college until 8 years after I graduated. The thread didn’t appear until later in life after studying ‘critical thinking’ and learned to apply it. But it was LIFE that really teaches you. Some people live and die without ever even realizing there is a thread. Thank GOD you found it.
I’m 58 now, I wish there had been someone around when I was a kid to give me advice. We were brand new immigrants from Cuba escaping the horrors of communism and knew nobody in NYC, especially the language; but we learned; without ESL!
Just so sad seeing the downfall of Iraq. It had a 95% literacy rate before the invasion. But what the crimes they did were bad, especially those babies.
"Limited by their creativity" reminds me of the video of the poor lady that accidentally threw away the koran. The mob did everything they could think of to her.
Heavy, pitch dark, and sobering but necessary to hear for anyone, and certainly every humanitarian who values the trinity of Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness as well as Americans who don’t value their country and its many graces. The methods of mankind’s unspeakable brutality exhibited in the Middle East spoken of here, largely unknown about in the west, make the killing by gas chamber or being shot, (WWII) look like child’s play in comparison. The chilling difference perhaps was the “systematic extermination” of peoples. Understanding history, all of it, is vital to our continued survival. Archangels stand with those who dare speak the Truth, and those who dare not to. Thank you for your ongoing service to mankind.
I don't have any background knowledge on this, but it seems to me they started with cease or desist notices. What happened to normal human communication? Something like: "Hey uh, bro we are already using that name, could we come to some kind of agreement? our listeners are starting to get confused." I can't imagine Jokco saying FU to them since he would also not like it if people used his name and also he agrees with them it seems.
These kinds of topics are not taught in public schools. This information isn’t common. Speaking of the unspeakable is the only way of preventing it. All support to the Jocko podcast. Stay hard.
Respect both of you for your contributions to leadership (Jocko) and understanding of the Palestine/Israel (Darryl). Re; the cruelty of the Iraqi regime: My Iranian partner volunteered as an ambulance driver at 15 during the Iran-Iraq war, but also played a more logistics role in assisting fighter soldiers. Every Iranian soldier had a suicide pill in their kits, because the Iraqis would tie captured Iranian soldiers legs to two different tanks and split their bodies apart. His regiment's commander was such a brilliant young career soldier, that Saddam Hussein once declared he could "start world war three" if Iraq had just one officer as capable as him. The commander and my partners regiment was constantly overachieving, and getting in trouble with the Iranian generals as a result. It appeared that Khomeini was just using up thousands of young men, to distract them from socio-political concerns, and the commander complained that he could of finished the war in one week if he had been given free reign by the generals (they once captured Iraqi Oil fields- but got in trouble because they hadn't been 'asked to".). The officer was eventually assassinated at the behest of the Iranian high ups (officially by crossfire), and my partner spent two months in a military prison when he turned 18, because he refused to fight as a regular soldier with a gun for what he now realised was a "fake war". US Generals at the time of the Cuban Missile Crisis toyed with gunning down a planeload of US College students to pin it on Cubans in order to justify an invasion of Cuba, horrifying JF Kennedy. I am surprised you are dismissing out of hand the possibility that the troubled and possibly psychopathic Prime Minister Netanyahu and his coterie would balk at sacrificing 1,400 of their own people for a political mandate to smash Hamas and Gaza. www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2020-04-23/ty-article/.premium/narcissistic-authoritarian-hesitant-alarmist-netanyahu-of-1999-is-back/0000017f-f4c5-ddde-abff-fce5476c0000
I guess anything is POSSIBLE but what's probable? Bibi doesn't strike me as a psychopath or sociopath (some of his political allies are religious psychopaths). Also, there are simpler explanations for 10/07 than a Netanyahu conspiracy.
What is it that drives madmen to bashing babies? We saw that behavior in the first hand accounts of a medical hospital in Rwandan genocide, and now in these torture rooms of Iraq. These creatures could easily ended the babies but they don't...its far more primal
This is what the average 20 something in America needs to hear. 9-11 is just a textbook paragraph at this point. They do not understand that we were their age seeing this on television.
Saddam was so psychotic, I wonder if the US invasion saved lives. Saddam had already declared war on Iran and millions of people died from it. It's completely possible Saddam would have done another thing that would kill even more people on a big scale. Yes, the insurgents and the war killed and harmed a lot of people. But the insurgents don't have the resources of the full Iraqi state and aren't capable of committing atrocities on a massive scale like Saddam could.
@Farsha 17 That's only when you use the "bomb them all to death" strategy. Like what Russia is doing in Syria, and what NATO used to do. The US has learned a lot about fighting insurgents since the Iraq war. Modern US strategy against counter insurgents is to get the local population to like you (through building relationships with the population and development aid) so they rat out the rebels/insurgents hiding among them with anonymous tips to a tip hotline. This is all from the book Small Wars, Big Data.
You make my drive every day so much easier I’ve got to drive 6 1/2 hours sometimes 7 to 8 hours a day headed to North Florida down to South Florida I directional drill for a power company not only that you make this drive so much easier you’ve actually made my life easier I listened to your podcast every day 24 seven if I had to or if I could I want to say thank you Jaco and echo Charles I love y’all please keep it up
28:00 - the military and political leaderships of each country involved is at fault for not showing their citizens the pictures and evidence of the tortures. We've become too civilized (protecting our wives and children from true understanding of the world around them) for our own good.
I completely agree. A person's innocence is NOT shattered when they are exposed to the reasons why these fine, honorable, ruthless, highly trained men do what they do.
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I understand your perspective, but I have to disagree with your conclusion. If your point is that the war was a net good for Iraqi civilians, you haven’t made your case by describing the horrors of the Hussein dictatorship. Everyone wanted him removed & there probably would have been a revolt, his sons were weak. Over 300,000 civilians died, would Hussein have killed that many? How many died from bombs? How many died by gunshot because the soldiers didn’t know who to shoot or care How many tortured by US officers in black sites designed for torture How badly were the people deprived of necessities because of the war? Food, water, electricity? The ability to sleep without the sounds of war? How many killed by IEDs planted on roads to kill Americans How many tortured because they spoke to an American How many helped Americans and were left behind to be tortured It seems the replacement isn’t any better, just more political and more powerful Where Hussein’s sons would have been weak, we placed stronger men in their place I understand your personal stake in the conflict, but the world has always had evil tyrants & they are always eventually overthrown. With a thoroughly politicized military and the shortcomings you describe, how can you support something so rash? I knew a man who spoke with an admiral just days before “shock and awe”, the admiral was filled with hubris, joking about wiping out all of Hussein’s army & rebuilding. He assured my acquaintance that the fighting would be over in a few months and the military would stay to rebuild, but they’d all be out in less than 3 years. He was high on his own self opinion and couldn’t wait for the killing to start. We can’t support a military with jackass leaders like that. I don’t think they had a plan, they were so filled with their own feeling god like power.
Saying this as an iraqi, If American would have backed groups that where anti saddam in Iraq while also having troops on the ground there would have been a successful coup, the American intelligence apparatus is the best in the world
Yes yes, but when are they ACTUALLY gonna continue this podcast? Now the name has changed and the legalities are in order, I hope they get back on track.
Doing the good work guys. One question I would love to ask someone as experienced as Jacko is this question - I'm sure that I am not the only person who has noticed the conspicuous absense of radical islamic activity in the West over the last 6 years. Why? I'm sure they are still there. I can't help but feel that if I were them I'd lay back and wait for all of the political turmoil to continue to weaken the enemy. Any attacks could potentially wake us up from our self-induced propaganda stupor and unite us. What are your thoughts? I pray that you are on TH-cam etc for many years.
The truth? All these Islamic extremist groups were and are created by the unelected elites only to be used to weaken our spirit when the power they cherish is threatened.
it sounds very very close to the original but it was months ago so i dont remember if its exact... the opening segment went over it but idk if theres a jump cut i missed or something
ok update its definitely the same recording i specifically remember the quote "these are guys completely comfortable with violence" in regard to the shock from seeing torture rooms
The cut is at 4:37... you can see that Darryl is wearing a different shirt than he is once they start talking, and also the bottles on the table are different. Same episode as before, the beginning is just different.. if they were just gonna re-release the same episodes idk why it took them over 3 months to upload them again
Darryl, the barely restrained emotion in your voice as you read for the last few minutes, and the horrific context of those words, makes me respect your sacrifice beyond anything I thought possible. I don’t mean a physical sacrifice, though I’m sure there are some…No, you sacrifice your mental health, maybe even your sanity, dealing with the highest levels of evil humanity can pull out from the darkness trying to make the world a little bit better of a place for an largely ungrateful half of our nation. And I think you nailed why exactly, the news reported is so skewed that it really isn’t news any longer. It’s become ideological editorials, propaganda, downright blatant falsifications. I have friends that have emigrated from the Middle East and south east Asia and am always surprised at how quickly their experiences are dismissed or rationalized by people around them because it doesn’t fit their coworkers/acquaintances perception of how evil Bush and America was just in it for the oil. It seems like the atrocities committed are downplayed, justified or just plain ignored by people who’s minds have been programmed to believe that America and her self-appointed role of world police is reprehensible. And while I’m not thrilled that we take that role upon ourselves sometimes, I always ask myself “If not us, then who?”Humans constantly prove that they’re frequently incapable of controlling their inner darkness, so if not us who else could? But maybe the better question is who else would be willing to step into these atrocities and say enough is enough?
Absolutely, that's why this is such an important podcast series. I feel the same way, like it's just so hard to find good unbiased information nowadays.
I couldn't imagine what many endure during info extraction seshes. Heinous .. tho I've heard it said if any man can commit an act of horror we all have it in us to commit such things. I agree with you Darryl. Some def need a double tap to the nape. I sleep better knowing you guys are there doing what we cant/wont and truthfully we mostly dont want to know...rose colored specs etc... But I love hearing others stories xx
A Cease and Desist letter isn't necessarily not nice, its just factual. Since Podcasts are businesses and make money, its important that any potential legal disputes such as naming rights are resolved in a very clear way.
As with what the other commenter said - it’s just a legal form of communication. Jocko is an adult and a business owner - his reaction was most likely (as he partially stated) “I forgot to do my due diligence on this. We can change it, no problem.” I sincerely doubt it was the cause of any extended consternation in Jocko world.
The cognitive dissonance of two American veterans talking about torture in Iraq without mentioning Abu Gharib is astounding. I know both Daryl and Jocko are intelligent people so it is surprising that they haven't made the connection that fighting the "savages" made them (Americans) savage as well and that their savagery in Iraq knew no bounds.
The use of the social media, reminds me of one of the defecit arguments of deontological philosophy associated with Immanuel Kant's "Catagorical Imperative. " I will act in such a way, in doing so, simultaneously willing, that everytime "x" happens the universe will also. That's the loosest paraphrase, but terrifyingly applicable. Social media is an amoral construction, true but this impact , without examination is a source off empowerment of our worst and best indeterminate in a global way. Digging deep indeed gentlemen. Excellent and thought provoking. ♡ and respect to you all.
The savages admit they are savages. Their key strategist Abu Bakr Naji literally wrote the book "Management of Savagery". en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Management_of_Savagery
I was an 18 Y.O. Young Marine in Desert Storm, My first time outside of the States. Things I will never forget..
This is a description of the Iraq war that should be heard more often.
so true people are afraid to say these kind of things
I agree.
It doesn't help that most of the media presents a very sanitized and skewed side.....
Plan and simple....thank you. I wish every American would listen to this
Thank God this is back!!!!
I think it depends on the media we ingest. Dexter Filkins and other reporters went into great detail about the war, the factions and their levels of violence. Frontline on PBS then contextualized the known reporting into some outstanding 2 hour long documentaries that dig into the origins of ISIS, the sectarian violence from neighborhood to neighborhood that compounded. There are several of them but here's a more recent one from 2016: www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/film/the-secret-history-of-isis/
There are so many things in this that are happening still, a year later.
Fuck yea!!!! Bout time
If you’re gonna use your name on the show you should have called it the “Jocko Willink Experience”
I really appreciate you sharing some of the gruesome details that normally get skipped over. I think it's important to understand the level horror, terror, and everyday violence these Animals inflicted upon their people.
@@MM-eo2oz as an american that is foolish in my opinion. We created this problem in the 70s with the mujahadeen. We shouldnt be over there right now. Same with vietnam. Makes no sense to have as much hubris as we have when everyone is in debt and on pills. I love america but its not cleaning anything up.
Thank you jocko for everything,I'm a young teenager and im training for becoming a frog man, you also got me working out with my dad which was a big thing for Both of us we've really bonded, I have been reading tons,swimming in the icy ocean,running over the VERY sandy hills in a sugar cookie(if you know what I mean),and shooting guns at targets,thank you sir🤙
Good luck with your training and BUDS in a few years!
@@kenjilaw4223 thank you,have a good day brother
Good to hear. Good luck kid, don't give up !
@@thomas5177 thank you sir,I did not think I would get 22 likes
Awesome
As a Scientist/Nerd, I used to be really judgmental of the "Jocks"/Meatheads and thought they were "Primitive Savages" who were duped by the politicans.
This podcast has really opened my mind to how ignorant, and just blatantly wrong I was.
I now have incredible admiration and respect for all Military personnel.
After all the stories I've heard of you describing the enemy,
It really made me realize how fucking lucky and spoiled I was to live in a land of Freedom and resent the people who provide me that.
I'm truly grateful for these incredible men and woman who take it on them risking life and limb to protect ungrateful turds like me.
I've been humbled and even been inspired by it to reach new goals.
It's a whole new motivation for me.
I used to get mad and angry at problems I wouldn't understand.
Now every struggle is GOOD.
It gives me a better chance to improve so that the next time I can annihilate the problem, and the "discipline insurgents" with precision, and alacrity.
Hats off to you for seeking different perspectives instead of getting stuck in the dark.
There's something besides education that marks someone as being smart. Being an open mind. Your post here tells me you're pretty smart. I don't have the kind of education that you most likely have. That is a guess on my part. I do have a very broad range of Interest and can converse intelligently on many of them. I also try to keep an open mind. You can be thrown buckets upon bucket mud which is a lot I call either garbage information or improperly interpreted information or just bad information. I have learned that if you sift through it with a little effort once in awhile you find a nice little Raw diamond that little nugget can fit a whole in a whole different thought process or idea. I also found that you can get some really good truths from the most outrageous and absurd sources. But if you don't go through the process of listening or waiting through the mud you'll never find them. It is okay to challenge what you believe to be true. If it is the actual truth it will with stand the challenge. If not then you have redefined the truth or can search for the truth. Always remember the truth is not the only goal oh, it's the journey to get there that counts just as much.
Good on you brother. I’d expect nothing less from a scientist. Listen to different opinions with an open mind and the base your judgement with all the information
Yeah Saddam was about to destroy the US if Jocko super hero didn't go in there to save us !
Next: Listen to Jocko's current review of "The Psychology of Military Incompetence" and realize that you shouldn't blanket "all" military personnel with that admiration and respect.
When you hear this you wonder why we are so divided in this country. We should help each others out and unite against the real enemies out there.
Not enough emotional quick response without fact checking......
The MSM has their definition of who the "enemies" are. Many of us believe the MSM is an influential arm of the real enemy.
The division is certainly an issue. But another issue is that you shouldn't have added the "S" to the word "Other". I'm severely triggered and traumatized because of you for this.
@@Polarwhisper6 please don't freak out! English is not my native language and there are still subtilities I don't quite see right away.
@@Astro-ck6mh He's being sarcastic, don't worry. Your English is quite good!
I am 70 years old. I have experienced a great deal in my short life time. I feel so blessed that we have men like Jocko and Darryl . These men bring truth to a young generation that needs the truth badly. I sorely wish I had the insights and wisdom that these two men bring to life, and presented to me, when I was a newly enlisted 18 year old. Thank you so much and keep up the great work, you are contributing to the education of many young men and enlightening a few old bastards like myself.
slick edits, echo. Glad this podcast is coming back
bassNY why wasn’t he in the podcast tho
@@mjolninja9358 idk,probably controlling cameras,but the cameras seem to be self controlling based on the other podcasts
The edit was so good I actually thought I was listening to a new episode. Can't wait for EP8!
This is the funniest Jocko Willink video ever!!
😂 th-cam.com/video/dJ3S-LI7tZE/w-d-xo.html
Mitch K. Ya same lmao so smooth
That was some disturbing stuff. Started to listen to the next episode after this right away but had to switch to some Norwegian Satan worshipping music for some light entertainment.
why?
@@NewsChannel-y4g Sarcasm, Sheldon.
Lol
Black metal is always the way to go
Some mayhem and burzum always calms me down
Philosophy, that is what is missing from the education system. How to think not what to think.
They of course get to tell you what to think. The very last thing they will tell you is how to think.
U r going easy on them,
there is no "them"
@@john_smith_john do you have any evidence to support that notion?
Absolutely correct! No critical thinking. People can’t see the forest for the trees. Only critical thinking can provide that.
Are we forgetting about the radicalization of insurgents at Abu Ghraib? And about the influence of Captagon/speed on ISIS and the syrian civil war?
Darryl Cooper has the best content I've ever heard. The way he shows the interconnectedness of everything changed the way I view the world.
Does anyone have a link to the account by Dr Shahristani? I can find bits and pieces of it but not the transcript he is quoting.
Found it after hours of searching. It isn't in a news article or video interview (that I could find); It's from a book called The Great War for Civilisation: The Conquest of the Middle East.
Been eagerly awaiting the return of this podcast. For me, it's some of the most important work you've put out. Episodes 1 to 7 gave me insights and insider perspectives on the Iraq War that I have NEVER heard before. Thank you so much for this!!
That's the strongest case for the Iraq War that I've heard
I agree with you Jocko about the connection with history and how the economy is connected with this as well.. all subjects are connected even if it is minute.. I remember the first terrorist attack was against the Marine baracks in Lebanon. All things are connected if you dig deep enough you see how they affect each other..
Thank you for this series. It gives me some insight what my s.o. went through in Iraq. He does not like to talk about what he experienced and I don't want to push him but this helps me to understand just a little bit. As a nurse, I have worked with many vets but never fully comprehended the horrors they saw...
Once again, why were we there?? And it wasn't from the Official Stuff they stated !
This is very informative. Keep informing us about the details of middle east conflict.
Finally!!!! Real men talking about the real truth. Thank you guys for doing this. Truly invigorating for me. Iraq 2003 and Afghanistan 2012.
Kia Ora again from New Zealand...again. Sorry I misnamed you earlier Darryl. I should go to specsavers. Thankyou for bringing these tough truths to the fore. I can't begin to imagine stuff my eyes have never seen.
We're thankful for the men and women giving their lives every single day to protect our lands and people.
If i could want one thing for you all besides peace (sorry you'd be out of a job ;) ) it would be less political/govt/civi imput from those who have no idea what you do, or why and how you do what you do.
Our Politicians at times have put our NZDF, SAS and missions at risk by pandering to a "public needs to know where and how funding is used" or they want to pull their moral standards out expecting our troops are in alignment with their/public expectations..Need to know means just that...I'm glad at least spec ops have the best/high tech gear to do the job.
Stay well gentlemen and thankyou again.
When I started HS in 1976 (Catholic HS), they had just ended their Latin and French program and religion and philosophy were watered down. We had no thread either. I didn’t go to college until 8 years after I graduated. The thread didn’t appear until later in life after studying ‘critical thinking’ and learned to apply it. But it was LIFE that really teaches you. Some people live and die without ever even realizing there is a thread. Thank GOD you found it.
I’m 58 now, I wish there had been someone around when I was a kid to give me advice. We were brand new immigrants from Cuba escaping the horrors of communism and knew nobody in NYC, especially the language; but we learned; without ESL!
This reminded me at about 8:30 of "Connections" with James Burke where things were traced back. Bravo, guys.
Just so sad seeing the downfall of Iraq. It had a 95% literacy rate before the invasion. But what the crimes they did were bad, especially those babies.
Glad to see this back!
"Limited by their creativity" reminds me of the video of the poor lady that accidentally threw away the koran. The mob did everything they could think of to her.
Heavy, pitch dark, and sobering but necessary to hear for anyone, and certainly every humanitarian who values the trinity of Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness as well as Americans who don’t value their country and its many graces.
The methods of mankind’s unspeakable brutality exhibited in the Middle East spoken of here, largely unknown about in the west, make the killing by gas chamber or being shot, (WWII) look like child’s play in comparison. The chilling difference perhaps was the “systematic extermination” of peoples. Understanding history, all of it, is vital to our continued survival.
Archangels stand with those who dare speak the Truth, and those who dare not to. Thank you for your ongoing service to mankind.
So glad this is back. This was my favorite thing he did, it was incredibly interesting.
I’ll still always call this podcast “the thread”... the Jocko unraveling doesn’t quite roll off the tongue that easily
I don't have any background knowledge on this, but it seems to me they started with cease or desist notices. What happened to normal human communication? Something like: "Hey uh, bro we are already using that name, could we come to some kind of agreement? our listeners are starting to get confused." I can't imagine Jokco saying FU to them since he would also not like it if people used his name and also he agrees with them it seems.
I stepped away for five minutes and came back. Jocko was describing the doll house, and I thought he was talking about BLM.
These kinds of topics are not taught in public schools. This information isn’t common. Speaking of the unspeakable is the only way of preventing it. All support to the Jocko podcast. Stay hard.
Can you make sure there is a caption option for your deaf and hearing impaired listeners. Thanks
TH-cam will apply captions. They are kinda off though sometimes
The three vertical dots when you click on the video will allow you to enable captions
The caption work well for me. Obviously off in certain areas, but not by much.
usually you can fill in the blanks and sometimes the captions are hillariously wrong
Respect both of you for your contributions to leadership (Jocko) and understanding of the Palestine/Israel (Darryl). Re; the cruelty of the Iraqi regime: My Iranian partner volunteered as an ambulance driver at 15 during the Iran-Iraq war, but also played a more logistics role in assisting fighter soldiers. Every Iranian soldier had a suicide pill in their kits, because the Iraqis would tie captured Iranian soldiers legs to two different tanks and split their bodies apart. His regiment's commander was such a brilliant young career soldier, that Saddam Hussein once declared he could "start world war three" if Iraq had just one officer as capable as him. The commander and my partners regiment was constantly overachieving, and getting in trouble with the Iranian generals as a result. It appeared that Khomeini was just using up thousands of young men, to distract them from socio-political concerns, and the commander complained that he could of finished the war in one week if he had been given free reign by the generals (they once captured Iraqi Oil fields- but got in trouble because they hadn't been 'asked to".). The officer was eventually assassinated at the behest of the Iranian high ups (officially by crossfire), and my partner spent two months in a military prison when he turned 18, because he refused to fight as a regular soldier with a gun for what he now realised was a "fake war". US Generals at the time of the Cuban Missile Crisis toyed with gunning down a planeload of US College students to pin it on Cubans in order to justify an invasion of Cuba, horrifying JF Kennedy. I am surprised you are dismissing out of hand the possibility that the troubled and possibly psychopathic Prime Minister Netanyahu and his coterie would balk at sacrificing 1,400 of their own people for a political mandate to smash Hamas and Gaza. www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2020-04-23/ty-article/.premium/narcissistic-authoritarian-hesitant-alarmist-netanyahu-of-1999-is-back/0000017f-f4c5-ddde-abff-fce5476c0000
I guess anything is POSSIBLE but what's probable? Bibi doesn't strike me as a psychopath or sociopath (some of his political allies are religious psychopaths). Also, there are simpler explanations for 10/07 than a Netanyahu conspiracy.
What is it that drives madmen to bashing babies? We saw that behavior in the first hand accounts of a medical hospital in Rwandan genocide, and now in these torture rooms of Iraq. These creatures could easily ended the babies but they don't...its far more primal
I aspire to do something great in this world so I can have Jocko give me a serious, "Good evening, Derek." in black and white.
Pull David Wood on this joint. Acts17apologetics. If it’s ALL connected get an Islamic Scholar in this jam
This is what the average 20 something in America needs to hear. 9-11 is just a textbook paragraph at this point. They do not understand that we were their age seeing this on television.
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Much needed more Jacko . Seriously this world needs more American fighters for
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Jocko my bad . Typo. Both books are on point. Extreme Ownership & Dichotomy
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Saddam was so psychotic, I wonder if the US invasion saved lives.
Saddam had already declared war on Iran and millions of people died from it.
It's completely possible Saddam would have done another thing that would kill even more people on a big scale.
Yes, the insurgents and the war killed and harmed a lot of people.
But the insurgents don't have the resources of the full Iraqi state and aren't capable of committing atrocities on a massive scale like Saddam could.
Their deaths ensured they no longer murdered...always someone in the wings..
@Farsha 17 That's only when you use the "bomb them all to death" strategy. Like what Russia is doing in Syria, and what NATO used to do.
The US has learned a lot about fighting insurgents since the Iraq war.
Modern US strategy against counter insurgents is to get the local population to like you (through building relationships with the population and development aid) so they rat out the rebels/insurgents hiding among them with anonymous tips to a tip hotline.
This is all from the book Small Wars, Big Data.
Okay, I was a little worried about these. Thank you for re-uploading.
So happy this is back. These episodes brought me back to the early 2000s watching the news and wishing I could get in the fight.
If you like Hackworth, read "Soldier" by Lt. Col. Anthony Herbert.
You make my drive every day so much easier I’ve got to drive 6 1/2 hours sometimes 7 to 8 hours a day headed to North Florida down to South Florida I directional drill for a power company not only that you make this drive so much easier you’ve actually made my life easier I listened to your podcast every day 24 seven if I had to or if I could I want to say thank you Jaco and echo Charles I love y’all please keep it up
I really appreciate this. I am just a civilian who likes to understand.
jockos forehead has more character than i ever will
Anyone know were to find the account of Dr. Astani that was read out? I want to use that with my 12th-grade class
Causually playing with my karambit and rambo knife ...!
I've listened to this series multiple, multiple times on Spotify. Great stuff, fellas.
28:00 - the military and political leaderships of each country involved is at fault for not showing their citizens the pictures and evidence of the tortures. We've become too civilized (protecting our wives and children from true understanding of the world around them) for our own good.
I completely agree. A person's innocence is NOT shattered when they are exposed to the reasons why these fine, honorable, ruthless, highly trained men do what they do.
And foreign law enforcement did not do their job. Therefor their country and culture fell apart..
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This stuff was hard to hear, I didn't know. It sounds like imperial japan, nazi Germany and Soviet Russia...
If anyone here is interested in hearing more, check out Christopher Hitchens' videos or articles about Iraq and the War on Terror.
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Words will Never Be Enough to Show the Gratitude and Appreciation to You and The Jocko Podcast Crew! Your books have been such a great read and a way to learn lessons from “history repeats itself” and it seems us as humans still are not learning the lessons! Not Just a Fan.. Truly amazing ways to be a better relationship builder aka #Extremeownership
I wish Jocko was our President 😢😢😢
Hell yeah! So glad this is back!!!
I understand your perspective, but I have to disagree with your conclusion. If your point is that the war was a net good for Iraqi civilians, you haven’t made your case by describing the horrors of the Hussein dictatorship. Everyone wanted him removed & there probably would have been a revolt, his sons were weak.
Over 300,000 civilians died, would Hussein have killed that many?
How many died from bombs?
How many died by gunshot because the soldiers didn’t know who to shoot or care
How many tortured by US officers in black sites designed for torture
How badly were the people deprived of necessities because of the war? Food, water, electricity? The ability to sleep without the sounds of war?
How many killed by IEDs planted on roads to kill Americans
How many tortured because they spoke to an American
How many helped Americans and were left behind to be tortured
It seems the replacement isn’t any better, just more political and more powerful
Where Hussein’s sons would have been weak, we placed stronger men in their place
I understand your personal stake in the conflict, but the world has always had evil tyrants & they are always eventually overthrown. With a thoroughly politicized military and the shortcomings you describe, how can you support something so rash? I knew a man who spoke with an admiral just days before “shock and awe”, the admiral was filled with hubris, joking about wiping out all of Hussein’s army & rebuilding. He assured my acquaintance that the fighting would be over in a few months and the military would stay to rebuild, but they’d all be out in less than 3 years. He was high on his own self opinion and couldn’t wait for the killing to start. We can’t support a military with jackass leaders like that. I don’t think they had a plan, they were so filled with their own feeling god like power.
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Excellent job gentlemen!!! Huge fan of the podcast. I look forward to every episode! Salute! 🇺🇸
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Reason there's so few views IMO is due to Jocko being Ghosted. I never get any notifications from Jockos podcast. Why?
Saying this as an iraqi, If American would have backed groups that where anti saddam in Iraq while also having troops on the ground there would have been a successful coup, the American intelligence apparatus is the best in the world
Yes yes, but when are they ACTUALLY gonna continue this podcast? Now the name has changed and the legalities are in order, I hope they get back on track.
This sounds like Jocko may end up running into some "conspiracies ".
If you keep tugging on that thread you may not like where it takes you !
I’m glad you are back. I have thoroughly enjoyed your discussions. In a time of insanity, you two bring clarity and insight to issues....
Doing the good work guys. One question I would love to ask someone as experienced as Jacko is this question -
I'm sure that I am not the only person who has noticed the conspicuous absense of radical islamic activity in the West over the last 6 years. Why? I'm sure they are still there. I can't help but feel that if I were them I'd lay back and wait for all of the political turmoil to continue to weaken the enemy. Any attacks could potentially wake us up from our self-induced propaganda stupor and unite us. What are your thoughts?
I pray that you are on TH-cam etc for many years.
The truth? All these Islamic extremist groups were and are created by the unelected elites only to be used to weaken our spirit when the power they cherish is threatened.
ITS BACK! Thank you Gentleman, Knights amongst men, the uncommon men -- thank you!
The world is definitely unraveling in this lockdown.
is this a reupload of the original show with a new name, or a completely new recording of a different conversation on the same topics?
it sounds very very close to the original but it was months ago so i dont remember if its exact... the opening segment went over it but idk if theres a jump cut i missed or something
ok update its definitely the same recording i specifically remember the quote "these are guys completely comfortable with violence" in regard to the shock from seeing torture rooms
@@brodiebriggs5759 thanks!
The cut is at 4:37... you can see that Darryl is wearing a different shirt than he is once they start talking, and also the bottles on the table are different. Same episode as before, the beginning is just different.. if they were just gonna re-release the same episodes idk why it took them over 3 months to upload them again
I’m so glad to see these rereleased. I was searching everywhere recently for the thread podcast episodes and couldn’t find them. Now I have my answer.
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Very nice, pretty sure this is the same episode, with a new intro, very noice and seamless Echo Charles is the man
jihadi john was from Kuwait. Moved to UK at 6. Killed in an airstrike.
Really awesome podcast. Eye opening for sure.
What colonel is he talking about around the 40 minute mark ?
Darryl, the barely restrained emotion in your voice as you read for the last few minutes, and the horrific context of those words, makes me respect your sacrifice beyond anything I thought possible. I don’t mean a physical sacrifice, though I’m sure there are some…No, you sacrifice your mental health, maybe even your sanity, dealing with the highest levels of evil humanity can pull out from the darkness trying to make the world a little bit better of a place for an largely ungrateful half of our nation. And I think you nailed why exactly, the news reported is so skewed that it really isn’t news any longer. It’s become ideological editorials, propaganda, downright blatant falsifications.
I have friends that have emigrated from the Middle East and south east Asia and am always surprised at how quickly their experiences are dismissed or rationalized by people around them because it doesn’t fit their coworkers/acquaintances perception of how evil Bush and America was just in it for the oil. It seems like the atrocities committed are downplayed, justified or just plain ignored by people who’s minds have been programmed to believe that America and her self-appointed role of world police is reprehensible. And while I’m not thrilled that we take that role upon ourselves sometimes, I always ask myself “If not us, then who?”Humans constantly prove that they’re frequently incapable of controlling their inner darkness, so if not us who else could? But maybe the better question is who else would be willing to step into these atrocities and say enough is enough?
Then who?
Nobody.
There are not very many places where you can hear a conversation like this.
Absolutely, that's why this is such an important podcast series. I feel the same way, like it's just so hard to find good unbiased information nowadays.
look for independent single person youtubers that are on scene reporters you will find truth best that way.
I can't even process what the fuck I'm listening to.
this shit's great :D
I couldn't imagine what many endure during info extraction seshes. Heinous .. tho I've heard it said if any man can commit an act of horror we all have it in us to commit such things.
I agree with you Darryl. Some def need a double tap to the nape. I sleep better knowing you guys are there doing what we cant/wont and truthfully we mostly dont want to know...rose colored specs etc...
But I love hearing others stories xx
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Brilliant series... Thank you for giving this to us.
Jocko with that extreme ownership of the mistake of not googling the name.
Someone’s already using this name???!!!! Good.
Are we starting back from episode 1?? what is this?
Listen to the words he is saying.
this is one of the best series of podcasts you have ever done. so happy to have it back again finally.
They own the name, but they could have just nicely asked haha.
A Cease and Desist letter isn't necessarily not nice, its just factual. Since Podcasts are businesses and make money, its important that any potential legal disputes such as naming rights are resolved in a very clear way.
@@bro9479 it's very agressieve assumming its the first move. It could probably be resolved with less aggression considering jocko is a rational man.
As with what the other commenter said - it’s just a legal form of communication. Jocko is an adult and a business owner - his reaction was most likely (as he partially stated) “I forgot to do my due diligence on this. We can change it, no problem.” I sincerely doubt it was the cause of any extended consternation in Jocko world.
The cognitive dissonance of two American veterans talking about torture in Iraq without mentioning Abu Gharib is astounding. I know both Daryl and Jocko are intelligent people so it is surprising that they haven't made the connection that fighting the "savages" made them (Americans) savage as well and that their savagery in Iraq knew no bounds.
Going to a place of evil will rub off on people going there
The Unraveling? More like The Graveling
That was amazing in a dark sense. I didn’t know torture like that existed.
Uploads around 12:20 AM PST. Guess I am not the only one with nothing going on during the day. Fuck covid...
The use of the social media, reminds me of one of the defecit arguments of deontological philosophy associated with Immanuel Kant's "Catagorical Imperative. " I will act in such a way, in doing so, simultaneously willing, that everytime "x" happens the universe will also. That's the loosest paraphrase, but terrifyingly applicable. Social media is an amoral construction, true but this impact , without examination is a source off empowerment of our worst and best indeterminate in a global way. Digging deep indeed gentlemen. Excellent and thought provoking.
♡ and respect to you all.
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The savages admit they are savages. Their key strategist Abu Bakr Naji literally wrote the book "Management of Savagery". en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Management_of_Savagery