My Panther Platform Engine Mods
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- Panther platform engine mods on my 2005 Lincoln TC 4.6L V8. This is my current setup... something better coming as money and time allow. Get Panther Mods Here: www.amazon.com...
Current Mods:
- AFE Power Dry Filter CAI kit for Crown Victoria (Summit Racing)
- BBK Throttle Body 75mm #1758 (Amazon)
- TrickFlow Plenum Elbow for 2V Mustang (Summit Racing)
- Speedmaster Polished Alumiinum Intake Manifold #199904 (Amazon)
- Sultans of Spark Ignition Coils (Summit Racing)
- Brisk Racing LGS Spark Plugs (BriskUSA)
- Steeda Underdrive Pulley Set #701-0003 (Amazon)
- SCT Custom Tune
voice sounds like peter from family guy. Awesome vid!
Paaynteehr..
Nyayayayaya!
I can't unhear it now 😂😂😂
I have a 2000 mercury grand marquis that i found with only 26000 miles,well maintained.
Is awesome
I've got 143K on my 2000 Grand Marquis. Still awesome.
Nice ride man, I really appreciated your tach adapter video. There were practically zero visuals online for 2005 specifically. It helped immensely and mine is working great
WC Doherty thanks for watching! Glad the video was helpful in getting your tach working!
We are the sultans...the sultans of spark!....
Where did you get the air intake tube? Sick build by the way, she's a beaut!
What happened to Dylan Antalek's comment about not owning a Lamborghini? I guess he saw the other videos 😂
Hi ma sorry to bother but I have a 2005 Lincoln Town car and Im trying to make it like urs so if u don't mind me asking how did u installed the plenum because can't connect all the hoses
@@alejandropena1559 same did you figure it out I got a 2011 Crown Vic trying to figure out where everything goes
Are you still around? Did you have to modify anything to install the intake manifold for the town car? I have a 2005.
You might get lean code cel. You may need a tune
I’ve recently found your channel and have enjoyed watching your Town Car videos. Thumbs up!
Ted thanks for watching!
Just bought a 2000 TC with 56k original miles. Love the car. Great channel, making me think! Thanks CGNE.
Paul Mark thanks for watching
@@carguysnewengland bro I wanna buy a tc 2001 Lincoln with 89k miles for 2000 is that a good price I wanna add the mods later in the future
I swapped my '01 panther Plenum out for an '02 mustang GT Plenum with GT Throttle body! No tuning... or dino test.. I just reset the computer via battery disconnect and ran it regular without pushing it's limits on daily travel in city. No idiot lights on, and no idle problems.
Any noticable difference
Connor Spurling The two plenums are identical and neither performs better than the other
Good video bro. Hi from San diego california!
I have the same mods with long tube headers and cammed engine making 270 at the rear wheel. He's probably similar I would think.
You have far more mods than him how would you assume he’s close to your hp
Those mods are well and good but did you Dyno before and after? Net HP gains?
Have 2005 pi p71 have a hesitation take off mainly.turning right any idea ..513 849.6077
Big difference from stock? High end, low end, mpg? Throttle response ?
Benjamin Clark high end for sure... the car is very responsive above 60mph mpg definitely dropped though... and running 93 octane gets expensive. Throttle response is good but the car is still a tank off the line... I suspect the gear ratio
Mpg usually increases with a tune especially a higher octane And the intake is probably killing your low end torque as it’s too big for the stock heads and cams
@@carguysnewengland gear and where the engines peak torque is. I read it's at 4800 rpm which is literally insane for such a heavy car. 290 lb ft is nice but not up that high
You're a gold mine! I just bought a 2005 Lincoln Town Car. I appreciate the info and look forward to checking out all of your videos.
I hope I’m not too late but don’t get a cold air intake. An extra 15 hp to a 4000 pound car isn’t doing shit. I fucked up and spent 250 for one and put it on my marquis. Biggest waste of money and time I ever spent
Lot of money seems spent for very minimal gain. Couple items that were purchased are not worth the box they were packaged in. With that engine better performance gains would be thru a simple tune maybe go from the 3,27 to 3.55 ring and pinion and headers with a freer flowing exhaust.
pontiac reddz it has a SCT custom tune... but I’ve done a lot more mods since this video and a few videos on that stuff including Trac Lok Install, 3:73s and custom Aluminum driveshaft. I’ve also reworked the entire suspension and brakes 😉 also I have stainless works headers now... thank you for watching
Maybe buy trick flow heads 😂😂
was the sct tune specific to the make and model of the town car?
So how much difference did these mods make??
where did you get the aluminum manifold? because when i replace mine, i dont wanna go with plastic.
Andre Onque in description
I got same mods as you ,headers,3.73 gear ,tune and more.. ,thinking of getting the underdrive pulleys (steeda),what do you think ,worth it?
It’s going to get you maybe 5-10HP
dyno before and after?
Thank you for the video my panther needs some catnip. Now I know where to get it!
Will that aluminum intake work on a 2006 TC?
Dor Slv yes
@@carguysnewengland thx, keep them vids coming man, i enjoy them. Next is the trailing arms ;-)
What intake manifold do you have on there?
Any HP gained ? How much please
Great videos! I wish you guys would search out other car guys that have done mods to their towns or Cr.Vics and show them I guess like a car show of the panther bodys ! I really appreciate all the videos you guys allways tell us good stuff !!!
Thanks from a loyal fan !!!
Like what I see. Luckily you already had a newer tc with the pi heads on it. I’m working with a 99 with non-pi heads but doing what I can since it already came with the duel exhaust and track suspension and steering. Looking forward to changing out the cylinder heads to a 4v. Hope to see your video on what you do to that car
I’m all for the 4v swap on a non pi 2v block as it makes awesome compression but it would be a lot easier to just swap in a Lincoln Mark VIII engine and call it a day lol
When you installed your cold air intake what did you do with the two hoses that connected to the old air filter assembly up near the throttle body? The one hose is a breather hose and I forget about the other. I’m trying to do this on my 2004 Lincoln town car
Any responses?
For all those mods you could have gotten a small cam and out done all those mods for less
Without supporting mods the he currently has?
Hey, happen to know what kind of plenum / throttle body I could use on my 08 grand Marquis? I checked your Amazon page and the plenum appears to be different
The plenum is a trick flow plenum… use your stock TB or you’ll have tons of wrench light issues
@@carguysnewengland thanks for the heads up!
How much the part?
I sent a message on ig
If I put a new air intake would it mess with the sensors?
Yes you may get a lean CEL
I couldn’t find the air intake
It’s in my amazon store www.amazon.com/dp/B00381IPZ0?ref=exp_carguysnewengland_dp_vv_mw
I have a 2004 pearl white Ultimate myself and want to do some mods. I do have one question do you know anything about the headlight system? I seen some say a 2005 light will plug and play on an 04 but I keep thinking at some point it was because of the amp draw but so far im undcertain if they are safe to use. I want to put the black spyder headlight in but only goes to 2005. Just thought maybe you know if I need to bypass anything or wire anything because of the design or amp draw.
New Englad, USA or Europe?? Good video man..
TigreLoko24 USA
Car Guys New England, kool..
Did you dyno tune this car? What modifications were needed to fit that intake manifold or was it a direct bolt on ? I read that it is recommended to install aftermarket cams. Is this something that you did and if so what cams ?
Wow the upgrades are amazing I thought you just had to slap on a supercharger to get anything out of that car. 📡👽🇺🇸 RUN!!!
Any chance you could drop a link for the intake manifold I want to make sure I get the right one
You win with the 2003 mustang GT steeda pullys right
Dang, I can't find that intake anywhere... looks sweet
That was a lot of work and money. What was the before and after difference? More power or better MPG? Was it worth it?
Can you use that SCT X4 tuner on a 2004 Lincoln Town car to
Jonny Vargas yes it should work
Hey how did u find that throttle body ??? I have all those mod but can’t find the correct throttle body
You gotta run 91 or 93 octane
Vern Henry 91 is the lowest I can go... I run 93 out here... but that becomes hard to find the further you get away from coastal areas
Noticeable difference with the throttle body and plenum?
Did you have to do anything to make the plenum work or was it just plug n play
How much power are you pushing with all of that
Could you put all of this In the description
Hello where did you get the intake manifold
One question..
does it pull?
Awesome, you modded it, put it on a Dyno and tuned it...where are the horsepower and torque numbers?
210-220/270-280 on the generous side..200-210/260-270 on the logical side..these are all at the wheel numbers of course
@@eriv4735 thats all generous
Mysterylie A mustang with these mods makes about 210hp and 270wtq so given the drivetrain loss from a panther platform it would be logical to say this car is making 200whp and 260wtq respectively..though that is providing the car is A. Running correctly and B. Was modified correctly so yea my estimate could still very well be generous 🤣..who really knows
@@eriv4735 agreed haha. Great cars though. Just wish it was easier to squeeze more power out of them to compensate for the massive weight
Excellent mods! Are you considering some nice long tube headers maybe the 4.6 trik flow heads. With some fat cams , and 4.10 rear end gear really wakes them up! 👍🍺
I did some other vids on other mods like the stainless works headers, 3.73 gears and trac Lok, and comp cams 😉
I know this is an older vid so you probably wont respond, but going to ask anyways. Have any issues with heat soak with that alum intake?
gregory9740 no she runs pretty cool
Did you change the alternator pulley as well?
No
@@carguysnewengland ok so I just need to change the water pump and crank pulley?
@@krownvikkhris3004 if you want max engine power do them all. I’m running lots of electronics so I wanted my Alternator to spin same speed not slower
@@carguysnewengland ok thanks
Will that aftermarket intake manifold fit my 09 Lincoln Town Car ??
Yes
Wish underdrive pulleys do you use man
I have a 96 grand marquis with the same engine basically and they made the coolant passage on the intake plastic. I updated it with a solid alloy one but wish I would have went aluminum after seeing yours.
The engine in the 96 panther is a lot different than this engine and it would take some modification to get this intake to fit your heads
How much was the custom tune after you paid for the SCT tuner please help
Hit up Marty ochs. He owns Mos speed shop in Georgia and he will ship you a tune for like 400 500
Peter Griffith
Peter Griffin get it right lol
I have an '04 Town car Ultimate and love it. How much did most of these upgrades cost, ballpark? Have you had it dyno'd with the tune?
probly cost around 1500
Would this intake setup work on a 1996 Town Car ya think? It’s got a 4.6 liter 2v. Need some enlightenment.
Yes the intake will fit any 2v 4.6 but Some modifications will have to be made to fit the non pi heads
I have a 99 Town car, what do those coils do better than the standard Motorcraft ones?
Ali Sleeq higher output voltage for better spark ⚡️
Any issues with the AFE
Hello I have a 2003 Towncar that i would like to do something very similar to, however how much did all of those parts run you? About what $1,000? And are they actually noticable? Thanks
You could get all of these parts for under 1000..I have similar mods with mine and I spent about 700 for my stuff..there are deals all over you just have to jump on them..and yes they make a difference
That's crazy Ive been wanting to change the throttle body but been afraid of the wrench that pops up because I don't want it to be unusable
wtf r u talking about lol. if the wrench pips up u did something wrong. or u nedd a tune after installing
Hey car guy I want to know what kind off crank pulley you are using undertone car because I want to do some things on my tongue car as well I always watch your videos hey so just want to know the kind of crank pulley you are using
Steeda pullies except the alternator pulley is stock you can get them on ADTR.NET or my Amazon store
What is the size number on that pulley
Didn't Myth busters prove cold air intakes offer no gains in everyday drivers?
it doesn’t always have to be about increasing airflow; I bet he did it because of his throttle body
What kind of difference did the professional products intake manifold make?
In all honesty on stock heads and cams it’s probably killing the low end torque and not reving high enough to utilize the flow capabilities of the intake
Could you tell me how much horse power you street 🐺 is making as of 3/8/20
Maurice Goodwin not sure 🤔 I havnt been on a dyno since headers and exhaust
@@carguysnewengland understood
I have a 99 Continental I want to mod out slightly. I read some specs on it when it was new, made 270 hp. Would like to bump that up to about 320 hp.
The 270hp rating is at the crank so the wheel horsepower will be significantly less but still a pretty stout set up..Look into cobra/mach1/marauder engine mods..the continental is fwd so it might take some modification but 300hp at the crank should be very easily doable
What was the difference with the coil packs
Zero
Do you know what one would fit a 95 Lincoln town car? I really want one
Unfortunately none of these mods will work on your car without a lot of modifications
I have a couple of questions. First, do you HAVE to switch to the aluminum intake? I just got my intake replace last year, and it was expensive to get done. Secondly, does SCT have a specific tune to help this mod, or is it a bit of a trial/error thing? Lastly, my ride is a 2004 Grand Marquis. Will this work???
For a mild build the stock intake is fine and on stock heads and can you will never see the real potential of this intake anyway..the sct is great, it has preset tunes that you can modify and they work pretty well but the best bang for buck is to take the car and get the tuner a custom program to make the best of your mods and yes these mods will work on your car, it’s pretty much the same car
Sct has some "preset" tunes. Basically mustang gt tunes. I have one on my 11 CV. I didn't go in and change fuel curves or transmission shift points but you can go to a tuner shop and do a lot. It recognized the Vin number and I can tune it for 87, 89 or 93 octane. Does it all with a few pushes of the buttons. I think I have the sct 3. If you have it tuned for 93 and put 87 in the tank, it does not immediately make it run badly but it does recognize the octane and I will hear spark knock under a load before it downshifts. Good tuner for the money. I have had mine for 4 years now.
Does the AFE need a tune or is it pug n play
I got it in my car plug and play
Also from new england, the MPG on a 2008 P71 is ungodly. Any tips that won't sacrifice much performance?
Define what ungodly is its a 4000+ lb car are you expecting 30mpg?
Honestly with these mods the car SHOULD be getting better gas mileage..providing of course he doesn’t floor it everywhere 😂
3:29 was that a mechanical fan for cooling?
Todd Gilmore standard factory fan
Thanks for posting
If never seen a Lincoln town car in good condition
Well I can show you one!
I need all info I have a 03 town car that I'm trying to make a sleeper car
Be prepared to spend a lot of $$$
Plan to go forced induction
Hey guys I gotta say. I used the spark plugs from my Lambo in my Mercury Marauder. big difference
Was it worth it? I have a 2010 cvpi and am on the fence between modifying the 4.6 or doing a coyote 302 swap..
Do the coyote swap..I promise you won’t regret it lol
That’s a lot of money not to mention the tuning and new computer you’d also have to get
Ernrsto Rodriguez A coyote engine with a computer and all the wiring can be had for as little as 3k (maybe less)..ask me how I know lol
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The factory coils are just fine even under small amounts of boost. The doot tube is just a noise maker. The world products intake is worse flowing than the pi plastic intake but wont leak like the plastic one. The only good modification was the programmer . honestly , its a 4400 pound car with a too small of engine. This car needs a min of 330 ftlbs and 350 horse. 3.73 gears and a 6 speed.
It’s not that the world products intake flows worst it’s that the factory heads and cams don’t do enough for it so if you put it on stock heads and cams you’ll lose power but if you put it on top of some decent heads and cams you’ll get decent numbers from it
@@eriv4735 What kind of power loss are we talking about? I've got an 07 that I've thought about putting this manifold on because I don't want to continue dealing with the leaking plastic ones.
C&A The power loss will be at the bottom and it will feel a lot Lordy than it does..you’ll lose a lot on the bottom to gain a VERY little up top..if you plan on doin other mods then you could consider it..as for as the plastic intakes go..are you running a dorman or an frpp intake?
I've got a manifold in there from 1a auto that I just put in because the factory manifold was leaking. I have absolutely no interest in performance increases, I just don't want the fuel mileage to be negatively affected.
C&A The one you bought is a dorman and aside from the performance loss (which is noticeable) the dorman is built shittily has poor figment and inferior materials..The frpp intake is a lot better and has be revised..my current intake has 200k on it with no issues(it is STILL plastic however so I always knock on wood 😂😂)..as long as you keep your fluids correct and clean and ALWAYS watch that temp gauge the intake should outlast your ownership of the vehicle
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That's cool but crown vic police interceptor is a much better car, better heads oil cooler trans cooler posi dual exhaust aluminum drive shaft sway bars lock up torque converter 4 wheel disc brakes
The police interceptors and the town cars of the same years have the same exact engines including the heads
@@eriv4735 yet the police has 250 hp & the town car has 205 😂
WarriorOfEden3033 That’s absolutely false..the years the cvpi made 250 the town car made 239 and that was ONLY due to the computer tuning from the factory..They had the same exact engines from oil pan to intake plenum..do some research 😂
@@eriv4735 my bad I was thinking of the 99 town car
@@eriv4735 also the police uses the marauder intake. The Mustang has an even better intake that’s why the 18 hp bump
nice
Horse power?
200-210 at the wheels
What can i do with a 94 towncar
All this plus PI heads
With my stock engine?
You can do all of these mods if you do a pi head swap
Do you get noticeable gains from the se mods? How do they affect reliability? And does the car do the relearning automatically? Thanks!
robertovc90 some gains but nothing super crazy. You will have to do the Ford Throttle body relearn process if you change the throttle body
robertovc90 my two biggest mods were gear change to 3:73 gears and headers. As far as reliability no changes other than I’m down to 16mpg average
@@carguysnewengland awesome, thanks for the reply. Your videos are very helpful. Did your car's confort decrease with the kyb shocks?
robertovc90 they are a little stiffer than than factory town car shocks. They feel sportier if that makes sense but I did a bunch is suspension upgrades around the same time
@@carguysnewengland and does the car still feel comfy? I'm thinking of doing the mods in your video, but I don't want to kill the comfort which is one of the Things I love about the car. Thanks again for your reply!
Can I use stock parts with this manifold intake?
Like a direct replacement
Yes it will bolt right on with all stock parts if you wish
@@carguysnewengland thanks because mine is leaking to my spark plugs again an I just got it changed 😑😒
@@carguysnewengland what gaskets did you use for the intake manifold my plastic one is leaking bad
Dyno Numbers?
Mpg?
Hooray you gained 15 horsepower in a 4,500 lb car
That’s being very generous 😂😂
The underdrive pulleys are the same on the 01-04 mustang. Several videos show it to be a 10-12hp increase. Many videos also show a tune on these 2v modular motors will add anywhere from 15 to 30 hp. The intake is probably 5 hp until its heat soaked. My 09 CVPI p71 is 4170 lbs with me in it. I have a drop in filter and Accel super coils with NGK platinum spark plugs. I gained about half a second 0-60 at 7.2 seconds. But the biggest difference is drivability and mpg.
Hooray. Someone modified their car. I'm glad it pissed you off 👍
Bro it’s 4005 pounds
Link for intake please!
nvm found it
www.jegs.com/i/Professional-Products/428/54061/10002/-1?CAWELAID=1710581277&CAGPSPN=pla&CAAGID=44693592161&CATCI=pla-193092225671&CATARGETID=230006180039219564&cadevice=c&gclid=CjwKEAjw07nJBRDG_tvshefHhWQSJABRcE-ZwS_QJ800E3z8QEh-60rXna5_76bsAdMOD51hqw0f3xoC81Hw_wcB
mark0101 This is UNBELIEVABLE!!! So, even though the description of this pure aluminum manifold shows the oldest date as 2004 and for 5.0 liter, would this really work with 2003-2011 Lincoln Town Cars???
Gábriel Priòre Yes the intake will fit from 2002-2011 as the engine didn’t really change much over the years
Thanks for the video. What specifically did you get from all the mods? I just purchased a used 2011 TC (I love my TC's - my 4th one). Looking to make it 'special'.
I really wish there was a digital dash for it - like I had in my '97. The one is so hard to see at night....and even in daylight with the windows up (they were tinted pretty dark).
Very similar to my 04 Grand Marquis. I'm looking to upgrade mine once time and money let me. Lol, did you notice much of a difference between power??
Strong 0047 [Prospect] best boost in performance for one of these cars is gears.
Thank you for this Video, I am a P71 owner and getting into modding it and I bought the TrickFlow Plenum and was wondering you you have some instructions on how to install it on the 4.6L 2V Engine. I notice that one opening is not threaded and the Plenum did not come with instructions obviously for the P71. Would you be able to make a short video on that and pointing out where what goes and how you did it?
Yes please I want to know as well
Run it exactly how the directions tell you to install it on the mustang then flip it around 180* and install it..done 👍
No start up we would like to hear it run also really poor review