The original idea was that it was a device with a delayed explosion: the film isn't appreciated until some time after it's initial release. Or the cast got famous afterwards, thus also fitting the "delayed explosion" metaphor. In this case, we're using "bomb" in the literal sense, as opposed to "Talent Bomb" which uses the cinematic definition of "bomb".
Coming in a little late on this one, but when I watched this for the first time I recognized Alan Napier out of the gate, so the Gary Oldman revelation at the end was even more delightful
One thing commenters don't point out is that for this show and B&BG, the comments are also very fun and educational. I thank you for that and I think you should bring it up next time.
"North" has gotta be one of the most notorious examples of a talent bomb; it's a talent nuclear warhead. Elijah Wood, Dan Aykroyd, Alan Arkin, Bruce Willis, John Ritter, Julia Louis-Dreyfuss, Kathy Bates, Jon Lovitz, and directed by Rob Reiner (who directed The Princess Bride and This Is Spinal Tap prior). And it was one of the biggest busts of all time. Roger Ebert once said "I hated this movie. Hated hated hated hated hated this movie. Hated it. Hated every simpering stupid vacant audience-insulting moment of it. Hated the sensibility that thought anyone would like it. Hated the implied insult to the audience by its belief that anyone would be entertained by it." I mean...damn
Hey guys, have you seen From Dusk Til Dawn? It starts out as a crime thriller and then half way through completely turns on its head in a totally non-sensical way. Accidentally hilarious and perfect for this kind of show.
matt is looking a lot thinner here woah! and this was awsome as always :) guess what i know film nether of you will have seen 'the family way' it would be great for this show, i don't want to even discuss the story because i think it's great seeing it unfold first hand :)
The 80's is filled. It is made of 10 years but when referenced as a decade, it is a singular entity. Just like the year 1989 is a singular entity even though it is made of 365 days. Love the show.
Allow me to extrapolate on why I love Stranger than Fiction: Stranger than Fiction is a beautiful movie when you consider the film from a writer/character perspective. The film really captures the influence a writer can have on their creation, their fictional world, and their characters. And yet, through the process of creating, the writer is influenced too. Writing exposes them to personalities and events they may never know in the real world, but will change them, teaching them to look closer, maybe take pity on the old man at the corner, or perhaps familiarize them with the snooty teenager working in the grocery store. I love the movie because all the characters learn something, and because as the viewer you know that the world and its characters will never be the same.
I'd love it if you guys could watch something from social realism! It's one of my favourite genres, especially British social realism, and I think the films allow for really interesting discussion
On your appraisal of "To Be or Not To Be" and "The Great Dictator," I decided to watch both films, and I loved them. They also got me in the mood for an old favourite of mine "The Canterville Ghost!" There's a remake of it that I have not seen, but I really loved the 1944 film. Have you seen it? If not, I recommend it highly. It's a wonderful movie and one of a kind story.
Love the Fincely Movie idea, I smell a kickstarter.... By the way, I've yet to watch the original To Be or Not To Be, but I've loved the Mel Brooks remake for years. I'm assuming you've SEEN IT!, but I'd love to know your opinion of how it compares to the original. :-)
I am fixated on the symmetry/asymmetry of Matt's gap between his upper incisors and Craig's jaunty gap between upper left incisor and canine. It seems to reflect their attitudes to the films they discuss Matt- middle ground, Craig - Leftfield - at least in my addled mind. Shit....I need more (or less) beer (and boardgames). Anyway - awesome posts. Yes, I have donated.
Have you guys seen Pirates of the Caribbean Curse of the Black Pearl starring Johnny Depp? Its the only pirate film I've ever watched that I loved and its revived the pirates genre worldwide.
Have you guys seen Shark Skin Man and Peach Hip Girl? It's a Japanese film about a Yakuza soldier and the niece of a twisted hotel owner on the run together from various parties out to get them. I thought it was pretty fun and interesting to watch, and it's got some nice action scenes as well.
Have you ever seen frequently asked questions about time travel? It's a english movie about 3 friends who are kind of nerdy who find them selves in time traveling hijinks. It's awesome! XD
Thanks Guys, I really enjoyed your analysis of Film Noir. I think it is a fantastic genre. Finchley played Alfred the butler on the Batman series I think. This is one of your best episodes. I recommend "All Through The Night' a 40's Bogart wartime propaganda movie, one of my favorites of his.
It's the Hays Code, created by the MPAA and had its effect on films from 1930 to 1968. You can look it up, but basically movies had to follow a moral code. Therefore, if a character does something morally wrong, like commit a crime, or in some films, have premarital sex, something bad has to happen to him or her.
My top 5: Fandango, O Brother Where Art Thou, The Usual Suspects, The Sting, The Matrix. Honorable Mention: Shawshank Redemption, Ocean's 11, Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon, Jaws, Silence of the Lambs, The Dark Knight
Halloween is coming up. Have you guys seen Evil Dead (the original, not the remake)? It is one of my all-time favorites and has created my eternal love for Bruce Campbell.
Another suggestion I have for terminology is this: "Dummy Film". The term is used to compare to a dummy grenade. The grenade, for all intents and purposes, looks entirely functional from the outside, when in fact it has no explosive, fuse, or ignition. Just like a dummy grenade, A "Dummy Film" is a film that is almost devoid of good content. It looks like a good movie from the content seen in commercials, but in reality the scenes seen in the commercials are the only good scenes in the film.
If you guys watch the Japanese Noirs, I don't suppose you've seen Akira Kurosawa's Stray Dogs? If not I recommend it. The overwhelming heat, contrasts sharply with the tension of the plot. If you want moral codes and broken men, this is the film for you.
That's a tough one grammatically. Phrases can refer to multiple things but still be singular unit, such my "this team" or "the band." But what is "the 80s?" I always think of it, as Craig argued, as the UNIT of years between 1980 and 1989, which would be "The 80s is filled..." But if each year between 1980 and 1989 is an "80," than it is "The 80s are filled..." I side with Craig, even though our brains are used to saying "are" after any S sound.
Seems a lot like 'The Killers'. Are you wearing plaid for protection? I loved aspects of Stranger Than Fiction. Isn't Outlaw Biker redundant? Is there a movie about a law-abiding biker? (There probably are; please elucidate me). I'll have to watch all the movies that I haven't seen it; as for Tokyo Drifters, how about a discussion of the best gun battles? I'm not violent but I like a creative display. Res. Dogs was a good final battle. Safe (2012) final fight scene /watch?v=rFo63XGnXHA Greatshow
I'm sure I've said it before but have you seen "The Frighteners" with Michael jay fox and Jake Busey? I mention Jake Busey because you pointed him out and managed to name his dad purely due to his gum to tooth ratio, however, I also love the movie and it has to be Michael Jay Fox's best. (excluding back to the future just like you exclude star wars when talking about Harrison Fords best movies) if youve seen it then tell me! Charles
Craig, I also enjoy the movie Stranger Than Fiction. An as for To Be or Not To Be ive only seen the Mel Brooks remake (cause Mel Brooks is AWESOME). Also have you guys seen the musical movie Bugsy Malone. It really is an interesting an fun movie.
Matt, If I''m correct, I saw an almostly perfect lookalike for you or is it possible that you have a father in the Netherlands? Sorry for my typing I am currently intoxicated.
Have you guys ever seen Watermelon zMan? It was directed by Melvin Van Peebles shortly before the blacksploitation craze took off. And it features Godfrey Cambridge in pretty convincing white face in the start of the film.
Forget about whether it's singular or plural. "Is filled" and "are filled" are both incorrect, because the 80s is in the past. Between "was filled" and "were filled", I'm good with either one.
"...merry olde Japan."
Why does that make me giggle?
The original idea was that it was a device with a delayed explosion: the film isn't appreciated until some time after it's initial release. Or the cast got famous afterwards, thus also fitting the "delayed explosion" metaphor. In this case, we're using "bomb" in the literal sense, as opposed to "Talent Bomb" which uses the cinematic definition of "bomb".
Can't believe you mentioned me (the guy who suggested To Be or Not to Be)! You made me a very happy basement dweller!
This show just keeps getting better. I love your analysis on the films and the witty humor. Donated, keep up the good work!
Matt, the fact that you liked Slither makes me smile. I loved that flick.
Matt, your weight loss has been incredible, your an inspiration.
Is it wrong that I actually enjoy watching your show about movies more than watching most movies?
Coming in a little late on this one, but when I watched this for the first time I recognized Alan Napier out of the gate, so the Gary Oldman revelation at the end was even more delightful
such an iconic duo you two guys ❤
I was a little bummed out that you didn't watch The Set-up, but this was a really good show.
subscribed!
One thing commenters don't point out is that for this show and B&BG, the comments are also very fun and educational. I thank you for that and I think you should bring it up next time.
Amazing Anchorman-esque "Jazz Flute" Alert at 06:00 (eat your heart-out, Ian Anderson).
Yep
I'll definitely be adding this to my watch list. Looks dark and complex. Another great episode, guys.
Yes. Craig's shot was slightly out of focus in the opening scenes. He's got a new chair and we think it moved after we started rolling.
I'm SO glad you guys mentioned Slither. I thought that movie was great!
You guys are hilariously witty every time. Love it!
"North" has gotta be one of the most notorious examples of a talent bomb; it's a talent nuclear warhead. Elijah Wood, Dan Aykroyd, Alan Arkin, Bruce Willis, John Ritter, Julia Louis-Dreyfuss, Kathy Bates, Jon Lovitz, and directed by Rob Reiner (who directed The Princess Bride and This Is Spinal Tap prior). And it was one of the biggest busts of all time. Roger Ebert once said "I hated this movie. Hated hated hated hated hated this movie. Hated it. Hated every simpering stupid vacant audience-insulting moment of it. Hated the sensibility that thought anyone would like it. Hated the implied insult to the audience by its belief that anyone would be entertained by it." I mean...damn
Side note: Chris "Mac Daddy" Kelly (half of Kris Kross) died in Atlanta a few months before this aired.
Hey guys, have you seen From Dusk Til Dawn? It starts out as a crime thriller and then half way through completely turns on its head in a totally non-sensical way. Accidentally hilarious and perfect for this kind of show.
matt is looking a lot thinner here woah! and this was awsome as always :) guess what i know film nether of you will have seen 'the family way' it would be great for this show, i don't want to even discuss the story because i think it's great seeing it unfold first hand :)
The 80's is filled. It is made of 10 years but when referenced as a decade, it is a singular entity. Just like the year 1989 is a singular entity even though it is made of 365 days. Love the show.
They're both technically right....
Stranger than fiction is my all time favorite film!
Allow me to extrapolate on why I love Stranger than Fiction:
Stranger than Fiction is a beautiful movie when you consider the film from a writer/character perspective. The film really captures the influence a writer can have on their creation, their fictional world, and their characters.
And yet, through the process of creating, the writer is influenced too. Writing exposes them to personalities and events they may never know in the real world, but will change them, teaching them to look closer, maybe take pity on the old man at the corner, or perhaps familiarize them with the snooty teenager working in the grocery store.
I love the movie because all the characters learn something, and because as the viewer you know that the world and its characters will never be the same.
I'd love it if you guys could watch something from social realism! It's one of my favourite genres, especially British social realism, and I think the films allow for really interesting discussion
"Finsley" (sp?) is the same actor who played Alfred the Butler in the Batman TV series. He was also in one of my fave films, "The Uninvited" (1944).
Hearing Matt say 'gunned down' just makes me think of Super Blaster's famous catchphrase.
On your appraisal of "To Be or Not To Be" and "The Great Dictator," I decided to watch both films, and I loved them. They also got me in the mood for an old favourite of mine "The Canterville Ghost!" There's a remake of it that I have not seen, but I really loved the 1944 film. Have you seen it? If not, I recommend it highly. It's a wonderful movie and one of a kind story.
Love the Fincely Movie idea, I smell a kickstarter....
By the way, I've yet to watch the original To Be or Not To Be, but I've loved the Mel Brooks remake for years. I'm assuming you've SEEN IT!, but I'd love to know your opinion of how it compares to the original. :-)
These WTTB episodes are as long as a regular tv show, and much more entertaining. You both should be seeing paychecks for making them.
NGL, as a kid a had a huge crush on Yvonne DeCarlo as Lily in The Munsters, but seeing her here, 15 years younger, puts a whole new spin on things 🥰
Why does Craig look so posterized during the entire intro? If it's an effect added to aide stylistically to the Film Noir theme it works!
Looking foreward to the next.episode.
Have you seen six string samurai? It is a great mix of music and good acting to set the mood.
how fun.thanks guys !!
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Love the show! You guys should watch Suicide Kings. It's one of my favs.
She was also Ms Kitty in Gunsmoke! Love this series.
princess bride and slither are two of my fave movies
Seen Golden Boy? (Rouben Mamoulian, 1939) Love the show.
I am fixated on the symmetry/asymmetry of Matt's gap between his upper incisors and Craig's jaunty gap between upper left incisor and canine. It seems to reflect their attitudes to the films they discuss Matt- middle ground, Craig - Leftfield - at least in my addled mind. Shit....I need more (or less) beer (and boardgames). Anyway - awesome posts. Yes, I have donated.
Have you guys seen Pirates of the Caribbean Curse of the Black Pearl starring Johnny Depp? Its the only pirate film I've ever watched that I loved and its revived the pirates genre worldwide.
Craig is reading like he is jaundice. Love, peace and hair grease.
Have you guys seen Shark Skin Man and Peach Hip Girl? It's a Japanese film about a Yakuza soldier and the niece of a twisted hotel owner on the run together from various parties out to get them. I thought it was pretty fun and interesting to watch, and it's got some nice action scenes as well.
Looking fly, Matt!
Have you ever seen frequently asked questions about time travel? It's a english movie about 3 friends who are kind of nerdy who find them selves in time traveling hijinks. It's awesome! XD
love that Matt had to explain guns and flashbacks.. as if Craig's whole life is based on film. Craigle Guy!
Wow Matt looking good in losing some weight, keep up the great work and great content!
Matt, that shirt looks great on you.
Thanks Guys, I really enjoyed your analysis of Film Noir. I think it is a fantastic genre. Finchley played Alfred the butler on the Batman series I think. This is one of your best episodes. I recommend "All Through The Night' a 40's Bogart wartime propaganda movie, one of my favorites of his.
To be or Not to Be was re-made by Mel Brookes in 1983. Did you see the remake?
have you guys seen Free Raider , I would love you watch it for the next episode
The actor who played the bartender also played the train conductor in White Christmas.
You should watch Kung-Pow: Enter the Fist. I have watched it over a dozen times and each time I laugh my ass off.
Speaking of Halloween and Talent Bombs, you should watch "Ghost Dad". It stars Bill Cosby and Ian Bannen, and was directed by Sidney Poitier.
Have you guys seen Redline the 2009 anime film? It's really good, and what do you think of anime films as a whole?
Ahhh, thank you very much! :D
Have you seen Pom Poko? It's a studio Ghibli movie by Isao Takahata. It was quite strange and I'm not sure how I felt about it.
Have you guys seen the 2010 George Clooney movie The American? I didn't get that movie at all, it seemed like there was almost no dialogue.
It's the Hays Code, created by the MPAA and had its effect on films from 1930 to 1968. You can look it up, but basically movies had to follow a moral code. Therefore, if a character does something morally wrong, like commit a crime, or in some films, have premarital sex, something bad has to happen to him or her.
Finchley was actually Alfred from the 60s Batman TV series.
What is the "haste code" they speak of at 10:35?
My top 5: Fandango, O Brother Where Art Thou, The Usual Suspects, The Sting, The Matrix.
Honorable Mention: Shawshank Redemption, Ocean's 11, Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon, Jaws, Silence of the Lambs, The Dark Knight
I really want to hear what you have to say about Grave of the Fireflies!
Did you forget to zoom in before shooting? Is that why Craig's intro looks cropped?
Halloween is coming up. Have you guys seen Evil Dead (the original, not the remake)? It is one of my all-time favorites and has created my eternal love for Bruce Campbell.
Still haven't seen Repo! The Genetic opera on Seen It!, so maybe they haven't... I hope they will!
16:57 need that scene in the middle of a serious movie now
Another suggestion I have for terminology is this: "Dummy Film". The term is used to compare to a dummy grenade. The grenade, for all intents and purposes, looks entirely functional from the outside, when in fact it has no explosive, fuse, or ignition. Just like a dummy grenade, A "Dummy Film" is a film that is almost devoid of good content. It looks like a good movie from the content seen in commercials, but in reality the scenes seen in the commercials are the only good scenes in the film.
Have you seen Wonder Boys? And if so, do you think it was an incredible film or just a talent bomb?
I always loved Double Indemnity - favorite film noir for me. Something about seeing Fred Macmurray as a bad guy made it doubly grim
Don’t miss Double Draggin’ (also known as Twin Draggin’ Encounter), in which a lady teabags a man with her jugs
Craig is right. The 80's is filled. In this context the 80's is a singular thing.
JamesBacha Judging by your profile pic, I suspect you might be biased towards people named Craig ;P
was just about to comment saying that as well
If you guys watch the Japanese Noirs, I don't suppose you've seen Akira Kurosawa's Stray Dogs? If not I recommend it. The overwhelming heat, contrasts sharply with the tension of the plot. If you want moral codes and broken men, this is the film for you.
I'd love to hear your opinions o Enchantment. Caught it once while flipping channels, and needless to say, I was enchanted.
What is the tattoo on Matt's arm at 9:05 supposed to be?
Hey guys, have you ever seen elecroma? It would make me so happy to hear your opinions on it
That's a tough one grammatically. Phrases can refer to multiple things but still be singular unit, such my "this team" or "the band." But what is "the 80s?" I always think of it, as Craig argued, as the UNIT of years between 1980 and 1989, which would be "The 80s is filled..." But if each year between 1980 and 1989 is an "80," than it is "The 80s are filled..." I side with Craig, even though our brains are used to saying "are" after any S sound.
Seems a lot like 'The Killers'.
Are you wearing plaid for protection?
I loved aspects of Stranger Than Fiction.
Isn't Outlaw Biker redundant? Is there a movie about a law-abiding biker? (There probably are; please elucidate me).
I'll have to watch all the movies that I haven't seen it; as for Tokyo Drifters, how about a discussion of the best gun battles? I'm not violent but I like a creative display. Res. Dogs was a good final battle. Safe (2012) final fight scene /watch?v=rFo63XGnXHA
Greatshow
I'm sure I've said it before but have you seen "The Frighteners" with Michael jay fox and Jake Busey? I mention Jake Busey because you pointed him out and managed to name his dad purely due to his gum to tooth ratio, however, I also love the movie and it has to be Michael Jay Fox's best. (excluding back to the future just like you exclude star wars when talking about Harrison Fords best movies) if youve seen it then tell me!
Charles
As soon as I saw Finchley in this video I thought, "Alfred?!". I never saw Alan Napier in anything but the classic Batman TV show.
craig was thinking of an older gun where you put the gunpowder in before :)
I know you guys have probably seen a lot of Disney movies but are there any you have not seen.
Craig, I also enjoy the movie Stranger Than Fiction. An as for To Be or Not To Be ive only seen the Mel Brooks remake (cause Mel Brooks is AWESOME). Also have you guys seen the musical movie Bugsy Malone. It really is an interesting an fun movie.
The 80s may be filed, but 'The Birds' is still coming.
+TheOneTrueKaliban Windows is shutting down.
My mother saw princess bride in the movie theater
Hey guys! I love your show, and i highly recommend the movie "City of God". It is by far my favourite movie of all time, and you should give it a try!
Matt: If you don't think Kevin Smith has a gift for dialogue, you obviously haven't seen Red State. It's brilliant.
Have you guys watched John Carpenter's Prince of Darkness? I'm a big fan of Carpenter's work until Ghosts of Mars but I rarely see this one discussed.
MAtt you've lost a lot of weight! Keep going man! Good job!
"Yeah, and you'll get slapped and like it." LOL
I like how these latest episodes don't have the movie title revealed up-front, so I can be as surprised as Craig.
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an shot of matt from the opening of welcome to the basement and a shot from this week's episode!! congrats on the weight loss man
Percy Helton. He was Sweetface in Butch Cassidy & the Sundance Kid!
Matt, If I''m correct, I saw an almostly perfect lookalike for you or is it possible that you have a father in the Netherlands?
Sorry for my typing I am currently intoxicated.
oh there he is at the end of the video
Have you guys ever seen Watermelon zMan? It was directed by Melvin Van Peebles shortly before the blacksploitation craze took off. And it features Godfrey Cambridge in pretty convincing white face in the start of the film.
Why do Craig's shots look so grainy and lo-fi?
+Sam Kaufman was filmed with a potato me'thinks
That's Craig. He's grainy and lo-fi. Hello Sam, seven years ago.
Oh wow you're right =D Atta boy Matt
Forget about whether it's singular or plural. "Is filled" and "are filled" are both incorrect, because the 80s is in the past. Between "was filled" and "were filled", I'm good with either one.
wondering if you guys have seen the movie sukiyaki western django