F150 broken guide sunroof rail repair assessment 2015+
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- Troubleshooting 2015 Ford F150 Sun Roof malfunction. Remove and replace broken panoramic moonroof will not open only tilt vent same as 2016 2017 2018 2019 2020
FL3Z-1651071-A
FL3Z-1651071-B
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Ricardo, thank you taking the effort and time to make this video. I had a problem with my sunroof track just like yours. I took it to the Ford dealer to have them close it so water would not come in--it was not tightly sealed across the top. When I got my truck back, there was a whole inch opening along the entire top of the truck where the front glass and rear glass are supposed to meet. The front glass was still dropped down below the level of the rear glass. They said that was the best they could do and it would cost $4,000 to fix. I really cannot believe they were trying to take advantage of me, a 78-year old widow, however your video has shown me that the job can be done a lot cheaper. They have taken my truck back to try to close the gap--at least to put it back to where it was when I took it in. If they are not successful, I'm going to find someone to help me do it myself. I have nothing to lose and a lot to save! Thanks, again, Ricardo.
fixed my sunroof - thank you. ADDITION -- seeing the way you did it, and knowing to look for junk in the track, I worked my fingers along the rail and pushed the little broken piece out of the way (between the two rail guides) and then it opened and I could finish removing that broken bit. Saves having to pull the glass out.
Thanks a million. Just saved me over $600 at the dealership. My husband did this in 15 minutes. This is EXACTLY what was wrong. Please, keep posting... Money saver!! ❤
thank you brother, you god's work with this video. This stupid sunroof has been defective since 2015, and Ford STILL hasn't done anything, still using the same crappy supplier for this sunroof. Literally everyone I know has had the same issue, mine broke 2 times during warranty and now has been broken again.
I found the exact same plastic piece that broke off. Ford obviously has a design flaw. This video was super helpful. Thanks for creating it!
I def don’t regret my sunroof. But my fabric cover came out of the track on the driver side. When I took it to my dealer, they also said my roof rail was cracked (although, my sunroof functions fine…even the fabric cover still works….it just is flappy on the drivers side). They said it was an 8 hour job. I said…no. Glad I came across your vid. At the very least, I’m going to inspect my roof rails…and hopefully see how to re-insert the cover in whatever groove it belongs.
Man!! Thanks for sharing! I'm on my second go round of my roof doing this, but was worried now that the warranty is over. I will take care of it on my own now.
Awesome... thanks for watching!
WOW!!! Easy fix. Ford wanted to charge me $500 just to remove the broken piece. THANKS
This video helped me get my sunroof closed. The same piece in your video broke off on my sunroof. It wouldn’t let me close the sunroof after I opened it and I just wanted to say Thank You!
Since I bought a used 2016 Platinum FX4 4dr, I didn't have a choice of getting sunroof or not. Our past experiences have never been good, with 5 out of 5 all breaking at some point, even with rare use! Grandkids think it's really neat - I just grit my teeth & mumble something to humor them...
VERY much appreciate this video and for the part numbers! "Just in case..."
Bro!!!! You are the MAN. Thank you for sharing this video. I was having the same issues. Followed the same steps and found 2 of the same little pieces on both sides, in the exact same spot and like you, could not figure out where the heck they came from. But alas... I finally have my sunroof. Here's to you, my guy!
Glad I could help
Absolutely love your videos. Just got a 17 and need to replace these rails. The little tips like "use yo head" will make my life so much easier when the parts come in. Thanks and keep up the great vids!!!
Thank you! This helped me clear debris amd get it closed. Saved me thousands. Next round is on me. If you ever get to Atlantic Canada.
Thank you for creating this video. I have a 2018 Platinum that is doing the same exact thing as yours. Before watching your video I had accepted it’s fate as a window instead of a sunroof. Now I will be fixing it. Thank you
Exact same plastic piece, no idea where it came from but was impeding my sunroof from closing. Now if I try to open it, it sounds like something is definitely breaking. I’ll be doing the same thing here - thank you!
Brilliant! I'm on my 2nd F series (2105 F-150, 2018 F-350), and both have had serious issues with the panoramic moonroof. Dealer replaced rails three times on the F-150. Ford would not cover on either once out of warranty, despite Ford knowing, and dealers admitting this is a major design flaw. Gonna make me convert to Ram!!
That new ram does look nice lol... i think they were coming out with an all metal replacement to end the issues.
If you need it in the future, don’t go to Ford. I had to replace the tracks in my 2004 and Ford wanted $1250. I went to a body shop & they charged $700. Body shops definitely have the ability.
OMG the dealership wants to charge me $1040 for parts and labor for this trying to say it’s a 5 hour job. I am going to buy the rails myself and replace. I am so glad I looked this up before taking it in. I love my truck and the roof it has sucked not using it. Thanks so much!!!
I got quotes $289.00 with the tracks. It’s like an hour job
Saved me a tonn of money.. appreciate it ! 10 mins and a piece of plastic later.. all good lol. You can even just stick your fingers alongways the track after taking the sideshields off. You're more than likely to find a piece of plastic there which is jamming the roof, causing it not to operate as it should.
thanks again!
Great video you helped me make the decision to get a sunroof on my factory order 👍🏾
Thank you for the video, I have a Ford Escape and I need to change the removable part of the sunroof. I couldn't find a video of this for the Ford Escape anywhere, but I see you have the same sunroof principle on the F150. I think I'll do it myself.))
Watched this video and there was the same little broken piece of plastic in mine. If I can offer some advice, use a 1/4 nut driver on those torque screws. Preferably with a magnetic tip and it will make life so much easier lol. Thanks again for the video!
Great video! Gave me the courage to fix our 2018 expedition. No broken plastic piece but it turns out the back portion window just needed to be pushed up a bit and tightened down and it started sliding again.
Thank you for making this video! I have the exact same little plastic piece broken off on our 2018 f150. The gal at our local ford dealer is telling me they will need to remove the windshield to do this repair... and the best part... she says if they break my windshield I have to pay for a new one
What... wow, that's unbelievable. Glad the video helped. Did you replace the rails?
@@ricardosworkshop No, this should be covered under the warranty thankfully. Definetily not going to our local dealership to do the work.
I just found this video and I have the exact same broken piece too And my sunroof is doing to same as this one in the video. Stopping and getting stuck. I guess I’m going to have to do this over the weekend.
Thanks for the Video Ricardo!
Great video. I like how you dropped the screw - sounds like something I would do! I found two chunks of plastic in the tracks of my 2016 King Ranch. It was making horrible noises and not closing (finally got it to close after 20 minutes of dicking around). After removing the plastic chunks, it works fine! Should I replace the rails anyway or "if it works, don't fix it!" Maybe I should buy the rails and keep them around "just in case" more parts break off! Thanks again for the video!
Thank you very much. Same issue here, plastic piece broke off and will give trouble when trying to open or close. Will definitely try to take the glass off like you did and inspect the rails. Thanks a lot.
Just FYI for others experiencing this issue. My 2016 F-150 Lariat had issues a week after I bought it (used). Like a dummy I did not test the roof before driving off the lot. On my first try I heard a pop and the window would not retract. I let it go and planned to take it to the dealer for repair. Eventually I decided to investigate and remove the roof panel as shown in this video. Everything went fine and the panel is easy to remove. I found chunks of plastic in the tracks. I removed them, reassembled, applied a bit of silicone grease. Window operated fine for a while. It eventually failed again and this time it was stuck in the open position. I could not remove the window because it was partly in the retracted position, so I took it to the dealership. I will update with cost of repair when I get the truck back. Jan 6 2021. No longer under warranty and not covered by my extended warranty, this should be interesting.
Thanks for the info!
@SPBurt1 So what was the damage? I was quoted $3,800. Just bout the truck a few months ago, CPO and yet still “not covered by the warranty”
@SPBurt1
So how’d everything go at the dealership, what was the damage?
@@jorger4280 Check out sunroof doctor, has the replacement tracks for $140, 20 minute job
@@mizzlemafia551 thanks for this info!
Great video very detailed thank you for taking your time to help us with the same problem
Same thing on my 2015 F150. Thank you!
I hate that I had to get a sunroof in order to get the other features that I wanted. It's such a liability to have a sunroof in an area of the country where it frequently hails baseball sized hail. I have opened up the sunroof less than 5 times in the 5 years I have owned this truck and you guessed it, even with very minimal use, it suddenly started rattling and I realized it had broke and I am now watching this video to figure out how to fix the POS. How annoying that it breaks even if you never use it. I wish it just had a normal roof.
great video. had same issue an thank god it was covered when i bought my used F150 a month ago. love the panoramic roof in my truck.
Thank You So much for the video! Ill go try it right now and see if its the same thing that happened to mine! :)
Ford dealership quoted $1500 for new rails this morning. They don't sell the slide parts anymore. So, basically, they screwed the design of this and are now making bank on repairing them at $3, to $4k.
Great video. This is a known issue with Ford.
Just bought gap insurance that was 4k for this and stuff and I just come across this😂😂😂 canceling tomorrow!!!! glad my 30 days isn’t up😂😂😂
Thank you for sharing, this just happened to my truck also.
I have a 2016 F150 and I'm having the same Exact Problem!!
Thank you. like your style of video making.
Thanks Mike!
went through the same procedure and found a broken chunk of the passenger side. Why go through the effort of replacing the part if its cheap and just going to break again? I'm gonna call this fix good 👍. thanks for taking the time to make the video.
and my warranty just expired last month 😑
Aww...sux, of course it would. But you can do the fix yourself. 👍🏼
I know this is a ways after you posted it but the broken piece came from the lower track for the cable.
Do you have the part name/number for thr rails you replaced? Aoso, did you have any water leaks after doing this?
Call the Ford dealer and file a complaint. My warranty is up and it’s a $3500 in repair. If they get out of compliance they will make it a recall and reimburse everybody.
This looks like what is happening with my ‘16 ford f150 lariat. I’ll be doing this soon. Right now mosquitos are tearing me up
This is one of the many reasons I got rid of my F150 and treaded it in for a Toyota Tundra TRD Pro. Have owned my Tundra for almost two years and not a single problem. Why they would use plastic in such a huge sunroof is just plain dumb. Fords customer service is horrible!!!
THANK YOU SO MUCH
This really help a lot. Did mine today. But right after fixing it. Tested it for leaks. And now it is leaking on both sides on rear of front glass. Any advice. Was wandering if I needed to try to push it back then tighten nuts back down.
Same issue. Not sure how to properly line up front glass to seal with the rear fixed. Did you figure it out?
Great video. Thanks for posting
I have to do the same thing to my 2017 Lincoln Mkc panoramic sunroof too it sometimes get stuck when I try opening it but it will tilt I hope this work!!!
Geez man Amen that you tackled that problem. I would have been right to the dealer causing hell. It’s a know problem and should be a recall. I had the sticking and hard opening on my ‘18 F150. Glad I got rid of the truck before it actually broke. Bought a F250 with all the options except a sunroof and can not be happier. Never looked back
Did you bought new rails ? Or did you noticed you didn’t had to buy new ones once you removed the small broken piece maybe preventing from the rails to slide back? Great video btw thank you
Hi thanks for the video, I wish I’ve know before. I took mine to the dealership the first time it happened and they said they lubricated and fixed it. The next thing I know it broke. Wouldn’t open all the way then wouldn’t close. The dealership told me $5,300.00 ok still looking around.
Wow... they want to put a whole new one in it instead of fixing the existing one. It could be as easy as the track. I would try it before paying that much money.
Same exact broken piece.
Im getting metal rails tomorrow
Same exact thing happened to me. Same exact broken piece of plastic and I can’t figure out where it broke off from. It does work without problems now with that little piece missing. No leak,no wind noise,nothing.
Yes, repair place lied to me and said it would take 4 hours to remove the moonroof just to assess the situation.
I have a 2017 raptor and it’s not shutting all the way on one side and it will vent but it won’t slide back
Thank you.
Great video! I have it save. I have been having water leaking and I seen a video showing the magnetic plates that help hold the roof liner are allowing water to leak into the cabin. Any thoughts?
My blind doesn't close completely. Does anyone know how to fix this?
Same issue with mine. I am looking for parts! Thanks!
I really wish everybody would put the year of the vehicle they are working on in the title of any Automotive for truck type repair
That's a great idea. This one is a 2015 Ford F140 Platinum 3.5L Twin Turbo FX4. So 4x4. But the panoramic sunroof is the same from 2015-2020 and even the newer ones.
For just told me my entire rail system needed to be replaced over $4,000. I'll try this first.
FL3Z1651070E THATS THE PART NUMBER FOR BOTH SUNROOF SLIDING PANELS.
Same problem for my 18 Expedition. Quoted $3553.02 from the dealer not covered under CPO. Hope to be able to repair it myself. The service technician said it's common on F series trucks and Expeditions but not a TSB. Those plastic tracks get brittle with direct sun light and crack. Poor quality parts that Ford will not stand behind.
Did you end up finding a cheaper way to fix your issue?
@blahblahblah21790 Nope, but I got the dealer to knock off $2k from the original quote.
Have you ever replaced the back glass? Is it easier or harder?
Never have... but looks easier
I found the exact same piece
I have the same piece that came off and on the same side. And i have no cracks on the plastic.
just happened to mine, will be doing this soon, thanks for the vid and part numbers!
Glad it helped
Did you buy new rails or did you just remove the plastic piece and place the sunroof back on?
I just removed the broken plastic. But it went out a couple weeks after... so I bought new rails. Installing them soon
Do you have the link to buy the part, please give it to me
Awesome video bud. What year is your truck? It was mentioned on F150forum that the mechanism is different in the later years. I just picked up a 2019 with the panoramic roof and just looking for tips on servicing and keeping it operating properly.
Thanks! This is a 2015
Mine is a 2019 and is leaking up by visor so ready for the thousand dollar bill to fix it.
When it rains/going through car wash, does water come into your sunroof and go down the drain track? Every time I get in my truck after it rains and I drive off you hear the water bubble and then it goes down the drain
Sometimes it does but most of the time is doesn't get through the gasket. But I'm sure location and temperature matter.
Let's go Astros! How's the repair holding up?
Great job bro, which part of Houston do you live? I got the same issue, may be you can help?
Why would my sunshade not work? 2019 lariat
So did you replace those rails? What was involved with replacing the rails?
I have the exact same piece as at 6:00. Thank you for posting this video! How long did your sunroof last before you replaced the rails? What finally broke on it?
Sense I just did this fix... Great question!!! Not a super cheap replacement but first sunroof sense I was a teenager, would love to enjoy for a few years!!!
Do you have to replace the piece or just remove the broken part that is causing the jam?
In this video, I just removed the broken part. I then ordered new tracks and intalled them in a different vid.
I just bought a Lariat 2021, and the moon/sunroof exploded the next day.. Ford is taking forever to find the glass replacement cause the is back order… Any recommendations?
Exploded? Like it shattered? I would tape it up untill you get a replacement. Try not ro tape the paint.
What is the official name for the sun roof rail for replacement? Want to do a search. Thank you
FL3Z-1651071-A
FL3Z-1651071-B
Thank you very much, perfect match! Great video, by the way!
@@ricardosworkshop
Mine is doing the same thing except mine wont even vent. Although it may be because I tried the calibration and it wasn't able to complete because my sunroof wont open. Hopefully it doesn't cost me an arm and a leg.
Dealer replaced my guide rails and 3 month laters it stops working. They now say it’s a different problem and are claiming my cables are worn. Should they have replaced the cable or caught that when they replaced the guide rails?? I refuse to pay $7k for this
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honestly how easy was it to fix? i have basically the same part i found in my track. seems easier than the previous version of sunroofs. just curious
I think it's super easy. Just with this was a metal part instead of plastic.
I had the same plastic piece in my track and now it’s stuck open, idk where it came frim
Anyone have small leaks from both sides? Any idea how I could fix this issue myself?
My truck sunroof also gets stuck like yours is Ford dealer can fix it and how much will it cost do you have any idea
Just the parts are like $400 from Ford. But I've heard they charge as much as $3000 total.
I need to replace both tracks. How long did it take you overall to do this? I had taken my truck to the dealer and they want $4 grand and quoted me 8 hours of labor. So, DIY it is.
Lol... DIY is the way to go... it's not hard at all... less than an hour.
@@ricardosworkshop awesome brother thanks
Do you know the reprogram sequence for a 2019 Expedition?
I think i can fix my moonroof off of this video. Thanks.
Hope this will work on mine if so saves me $600
Will they be the same guides as a 2019 ford lobo?
Yes... same
I just bought a 2017 F-150 on 10/19/2021 and a month after having it, the third time I went to open the sunroof it opened only 1/4 and I said better I close it and then take it to repair and begin to close and then It began to open without me opening it, but only the driver's side low to open and the passenger side did not lower to open, touching the rear glass and breaking the sunroof glass. Does anyone know of a place in Orlando FL that fixes this problem?
How you install the brackets
Thank YOU!!! any chance you have a part number!
It’s in the description
FL3Z-1651070-E is a kit with both guide arms, the most current # as of March 2021
Hey Ricardo! You in houston? want to help me fix mine? 😅
Does anyone know where to get the plastic guide rails for the bottom its from 2016 f150.
How do you replace the ams?
Perhaps Ford designed that little plastic piece to break off so you'd have to go in to the dealer to have it serviced. $$$
Obviously it's not important otherwise the window wouldn't work after removing it. 😅
You mean to tell me the sunroof repair is that easy?!?
I'm going to regret asking this but.. why do I keep hearing horror stories of $4000 repair bills for rail issues when it looks like worst case it might be a couple of hours work?
It’s probably the charge back to ford for the warranty work. Should be a 2-3 hour labor plus parts
Ford, like most auto repair shops doesn't like repairing just one thing. They like to replace everything that could go wrong in order to give you a good warranty. This usualy means they replace perfectly good parts.
Same thing here, I had same issue on my f250 and I believe the total bill was 3200$. They stated the whole interior had to be removed in order to drop the whole glass to replace the rails. If it ever happened again I’m sure doing it myself doesn’t seem too big a job to take on. Thanks for the great information man. 😎🤟🏽
I took mine to the dealer and they tell me 3000 to repair it and fu?? No I told them to sell me the part and I installed my self is not to hard it easy
Here's the reason: When you're in warranty, Ford tells them to replace the rails. If that doesn't fix it, or if it's too broken to start with, you can put an entire track in it.
I have seen a few that the rails/arms fixed, but eventually the rest of the track failed and it had to be replaced. Under warranty, no big deal.
But look at it from the dealer's perspective: You come in with your truck out of warranty. They replace the arms only, and it works fine. 6 months from now, due to the pressure the track was put under when the arms initially broke, the lower part of the track finally breaks.
So now you HAVE to have a track.
What's going to happen? The customer is going to come back and and raise holy hell because he now has to have a track, and wants to know why he spent $400 six months ago. Nobody's going to want to hear the truthful explanation, which is that nobody could have predicted the track would break later on. And oftentimes, the dealer is going to have to maybe credit back the arms, and then replace the track. Which isn't their fault at all. But that's how you take care of business, and it costs them money in this case.
So when you're out of warranty, some dealers just say "Track or nothing"....that way it's ALL new, and they are covered by Ford's part warranty.
Personally, I just explain it with kind of a disclaimer, like "Look, 99% of the time the arms will fix this and that'll be the end of it. But you have to understand that the lower track COULD give out later on, due to the trauma caused when the arms break....so do you want to risk $400 bucks now and play the odds and save that money the track costs, or do you want to go ahead with $2500 for a track?"
Most people opt for the arms and take their chances.