YES!! I was actually very pissed off with the girl doctor, because she was putting the mother's concerns first before the son's. She should prioritize the concerns of the patient before anyone else.
"Tearing the family apart"? The mother is doing that just fine on her own. Her son is probably going to leave the moment he turns 18, and never speak to his mother again.
tbh I thought the same. Like if you try to control your kid like that, it will as soon as they turn 18 run away from home, leave the city, change numbers and so on
That Blonde doctor was such a pain really. There is nothing wrong with evaluating all the possibilities. If a doctor thinks the patient could be in potential danger, it being psychological or physical it is literally THEIR JOB to interfere! And i believe there is something they teach in Med School about maintaining their patient's freedom by making it clear what all the options are and let them decide by themselves, and as he said "Brandon's the patient, not the mom".
But he could have tried to talk to the mother, undestand the situation and convince her before tell the boy to try the most extreme solution. In the end she was really a good mother, she was just scared. The way that the blond doctor talked to her made she feel more secure to open up about the situation. If the boy is going to another country, he probably will need support, so a good relationship with his mother might be really important to his adaptation
Doesn't her son have a very rare, terminal illness? One which he thinks he doesn't need to treat before college "because he knows he body better than anyone." He sounds like a dumb kid. And he is still a kid. He does not have the legal right to terminate or delay treatment.
I agree with Halstead, but I don't think the last scene was coddling. It may have helped the mother see the error of her ways and how she's smothering her son. She does love him, but in a destructive way. Those things are not necessarily mutually exclusive, especially among families. Which is why it such a split in bad faith is so hurtful for both sides and can lead to so much bitterness. The son is completely in his right to distance himself from his mother if she keeps this up, so let's hope that she learns from this and learns to let him find his own way. He may forgive her in time if she keeps working on herself.
"I was always the little girl who wished I had a mom like you." She was putting her personal bias and opinions in the way of patient care without even realizing it. She saw a boy that had a doting protective parent and thought, I wish I had that as a kid, this lady can't be doing any harm, her son should be grateful.
Halstead is completely right about this. He provided another solution (an extreme one) and the son was willing to go through with it which shows how desperate he is and how confident he is with his decision. THE MOM IS NOT THE PATIENT. The boy has the right to know his choices.
Your comment made me want to watch a series about primary school teachers...the amount of things they go through: pupils with special needs, lack of funding, parents who think they know better, etc...
i grew up i australia and it didnt occur to me that other parts of the world dont allow you to make medical decisions at 16. ive been seeking my own care since then and parents have no right to interject on whatever decision i make from 16.
Yes, me too, I believe it’s actually 14 where I live in Australia. I was able to get help without my parents opinions on mental health getting in the way.
Here in Ontario Canada once you’re 16 your parents no longer have legal right to your medical records or decisions. Unless it’s something not covered by OHIP and would need to go on their benefits.
In Québec, Canada, age of medical consent is 14 years old. Even if you have to be hospitalized for something, the only thing hospitals are obligated to do is inform the parents their child is hospitalized so they don't report him as missing to the police. But I think for the USA, since they don't have universal health care, the must have parent's insurance and such. In Asian countries, families must give their consent even for an adult to have a medical procedure. Like the husband, mother-in-law must consent for the daughter-in-law to have necessary surgery. Medical culture is not the same everywhere.
@@salmasayed5274 no it shouldn’t be, his medical condition affects her in absolutely no way nut it affects him constantly, a patient especially at 17 should be old enough to say no to any medical trials from the moment they can say no. If someone has Down syndrome you cant just star giving them surgery to alter their face and make them appear more “normal” unless their Down syndrome has morphed their face to the point that their breathing or vision is affected, but in this situation there is nothing deathly wrong with the kid, everything wrong with him he can manage this is literally just his mother wanting him fixed so she doesn’t have to worry about him
Not really the kid should have a say he’s competent and in many countries would have control over his own healthcare and especially for clinical trials being forced to participate against your own wishes even as an underage teen is unethical.
@Luna Dark I get your point. And actually I agree that putting the limit 18 years old is just meaningless, maybe even abrupt. But what I mean is, you can try first to get a point of agreement between the mother and the boy. They don't have to fight to reach the boy's best interest.
This is what happens when people treat their sick kids as projects or puzzles to be solved rather than people. Many people with complex illnesses live independent and full lives.
3:21 - that right there is the problem … she is so wrapped up in trying to keep him from harm that that’s what is harming him in the first place to the point where she is almost infantalizing him to keep herself frozen in time
I normally don’t agree with will but in this case he had nothing but the patients wishes in mind, this is kinda out of character since he normally just cares about the medicine instead of their wishes 😂
@@danieladelcastillolocatell5839She doesn’t have. MSbP, the video literally goes out of its way to show that. It’s more likely to be Vulnerable Child syndrome, when a child that has been really sick in the last causes a parent to constantly worry that something is wrong even when there isn’t.
@@danieladelcastillolocatell5839 his mom is literally trying to get him into a trial that would make him LESS dependent on her. The first medical choice the kid made on his own was to secretly try to give himself diabetes.
I could recall it in a DSM 5-tr, it's Factitious Disorder Imposed on Another, and most cases happen by mothers as see here Edit: And guess what, if you could recall the Gypsy Rose Blanchard case, her mother has this disorder
Sometimes people think they act with the best intensions and because of the purest love but when you take a deeper look at it it boils down to their own need of being loved and in control and have a purpose.
Legally, what is the age at which kids got to make their own choice in a situation like this in America? You'd think that by 17 somebody would be able to make their own choices.
@@baggyshirt8120 ohh god that’s a mess in the UK it’s 16, but younger than that you can make a GP appointment and it’s private/confidential unless the doctor thinks your at risk. Then they can contact social services/police but they’re meant to tell you first. I couldn’t imagine having my parents involved in my health care when i was a teenager.
also clinical trials have their own rules, the minor patient is often asked to sign the Informed Consent Form and there is another Informed Consent for the parent, so if the son doesnt want to join the trial the doctors cannot do anything about that and the parent signature will not be enough. But here we need the drama so the truth is a little changed :)
@@leocervidae I think also in UK if it's not considered life-or-death, if a kid says 'no' to being put to sleep for a procedure, the doctors have to listen.
7:22 that line is not at all welcome in a workplace. Means she had it personal, she refused to step out of her box into the patient's, failing the oath she took.
I like how they didn't go the cartoonishly-evil route with the mother, she pushed her son to the point he would rather inflict himself with something as serious as diabetes on top of his already existing chronic illness, but they also showed that she is human and that her behavior stems from unprocessed grief over her husband's death fueling the completely understandable fear that it will happen again.
In Canada there's no stipulated age for medical consent: "There is no stipulated age of consent for treatment. A person under 18 years of age who is assessed and deemed capable of consenting to treatment (a mature minor) is allowed to make treatment decisions." So it's up to doctors to determine if the minor aged patient is capable and they can override the parents if they seemed unreasonable or are putting the child in danger. For really young kids, they'd need to talk to a judge of course.
I live in Canada and was making medical decisions at 14/15. I was mature enough then and I was already going to appointments on my own having several conditions
But if a person of any age demonstrates that they don't understand the consequences of terminating treatment, they can be compelled to be institutionalized until they are no longer a harm to themselves. As you mentioned, courts would have to become involved at that point. But it is not impossible to imagine that this kid would not be allowed to terminate treatment.
@storietime8781 Canadian as well, also a mom of four (one of which with a lifelong condition) and I am so so absolutely in favour of this. You don't just magically become able to make decisions the second you turn 18, there are PLENTY of teens who can and should be able to make decisions about their bodies and medical treatments! My eldest is 10 and is very mature (though a bit impulsive, and has a hard time thinking of the long run as many kids do) but I always do my best to explain things to her, and let her make input and decisions when possible. Like when we found out she has ADHD last year, I let it be completely her decision what interventions she wanted, and when she chose medication I made it clear to her that taking these was HER choice, and she could change her mind anytime.
The kid's fed up with his mother controlling his life 24/7. She, or rather, THEY need counseling. Mom, to understand her son isnt made of glass and going to break any moment. The son, to process the loss of his father and his medical condition.
I prefer the approach of gillick competence. If the individual has the capacity to understand what the treatment is, the consequences etc, then they are entitled to make their own decisions.
No. The way the female actor talked to the mother was perfect and understanding. It convinced her with letting him go without dismissing the natural fear and overprotective behaviour that can come with it. Having a new home is a problem itself.
That's what started the whole thing though. He gets dangerously sick if not properly monitored. Did you not listen to the mother? She's over protective not dangerous. It's not wrong to want to keep your child alive. It's her method that's a little questionable
@@salmasayed5274 that's not that simple though. The Doctor may have talked to the Mother and the Mother may have understood but it's all about is she actually going to change.
@@midnightaurora9483 she doesn't really need to change her personality or stop worrying about her child. Changing her acts is enough because acts are what matter.
BRANDON SHOULD NOT HAVE TO APOLOGISE! he should say "Im sorry mom. I'm sorry that you may have had parents controlling you growing up but I am 18 in less than 6months and I AM NOT going to let you control me!"
Im 1000000% with Halstead. Mom is doing more harm than good being overbearing. I understand being scared and careful. But not letting your kid have any life whatsoever is torture for him and he will either live a life of misery or eventually rebel in order to get his life back. Its a parent job to take care of the kid, but you cant control their every move.
Well I have a unique insight here my parents forced me to take something I was allergic too ( resulted in me being in hospital for a week worst week of my life I was throwing up every 5 minutes and in hell of a fever had i.v. lines in me everywhere) I warned my mother but she was adamant ( threatened me with homelessness if I didn't) within 45 minutes I was so sick ambulance was called all would have been prevented if she had listened to me in the first place I'd had anaphylaxis reaction to a medication before I asked her should I take that again? At the hospital the consultant said why the hell did you take something you're allergic too! I said I had no choice
Your example is harmful. A young man wanting to be allowed to make his own decisions about his own body and not be forced to have optuinal medical procedures he didn't want is not harmful to themselves. t@salmasayed5274
Ummm I have addisons and only have one adrenal gland. Yes, I've had crisis's but this lady is acting like it's a death sentence....as long as I stick to my hydrocortisone doses each day all is good jeez!
you won't fully understand this until you're a teen in a childs' ward and having made every descision without your input. He won't magically be different at 18. It's not a switch to flick. There needs to be a compromise for teenaged kids. Being 17 and 364 days and being 18 is the exact same. Only that one of them is granted emancipation and the other isn't
Here’s the thing, if Brannon is ready to take medication to not be viable for the trial he will continue to do so or even worse if it comes down to it. The more you push Someone the more likely it is they push back. The kid and mother need counselling here so they can have an open conversation, yes the mom is looking out for her sons safety but she’s also overriding his decisions, a loss of control is what Pushed Brennons mom into managing his medication in the first place.
@@kinagrilli think this is a bit of a different situation. His whole almost 18 years of life has been controlled by his mother’s fear of losing this kid. He is a teenager and should be able to take medication on his own. He should have already learned to take the right dosages and everything. She is keeping his son from growing up and that’s why he is doing this. He feels so desperate to have a bit of freedom. If she pushes him into doing the trial he will go no contact as soon as he turns 18. It’s about the kid not the mother. It’s not her body but his, he should have some say in this. The mother is ruining her family herself.
What did the mother think was going to happen if she suddenly passed away, and her son had yet to learn how to be responsible for his own condition/medication?
No matter what the mother wants medically for her son, he can say no and there is nothing she can do. Any doctor that sides with the mother should lose their license. And the mother should lose their child.
Male doc is in the right, & Blondie is projecting. That kid was abusing medication & ready to give himself a life-altering disease on top of the one he already has to get out of a clinical trial he did not want to go through with. How is that not a Massive concern?
I hate how they instantly either accuse the parent or the child I spent my entire life in and out of hospital and because they didn't know what was wrong with me it was either I was making myself sick, I was overreacting to the pain or my parents where hurting me I didn't get a diagnosis until I was 23 to this day I hate going to my local hospital because even with it they still treat me like I'm lying
Unfortunately a lot of times that is the case though weather on purpose or accident but in a situation like this where an insanely overbearing mother clearly states she controls everything to do with the kid it really isnt hard to suspect something like it
@@lunadark6666 I can understand from both sides because they are just worried about the child but they jump to the conclusion so fast that they didn't even bother testing for other things first
@@vampgirl101rocks no no no they said they did a bunch of tests and nothing showed up so it was pointing back to the medication which she controls (sorry if this sounds mean at all that’s not my intention)
@Luna Dark but before they did the diabetes test or even spoke to them he has already made up his mind (that's okay I don't see it as mean just a conversation 😀) I think I missed the bit about the other tests though oops haha
@@vampgirl101rocks I think he was more iffy about how she seemed all fussed and bothered about it when the kid himself said that the trial wasn’t a huge deal so it looked like she was making herself accidentally seem suspicious by being overly worried (if that makes any sense)
People are always so quick to judge. The world would be a much better place if we can pause for a sec and try to see situations from the perspectives of everyone involved. Ultimately all of us are biased and will take a side but at least try a bit of empathy and compromise first.
I think that's a pretty big assumption, and shows you are also biased. In a case like this, we can all see the mother's side, wanting to protect her son and take care of him, like she's been doing his whole life. But we also see the son's perspective. At what point does it become his life that he gets to live on his terms? At 17, Mom needs to take a step back and see she's raised him, and trust that she raised him right, and will make good choices. Smothering a child with love, and trying to wrap them in bubble wrap will only have the opposite effect she's hoping for. You have to let the baby bird leave the nest. Anything else is unfair and selfish. Love your children, but let them live their lives.
@@Mystress1980You literally agreed with me (everyone has bias, I'm part of everyone) and proved my point (we could all do with more empathy and compassion, which you do seem to have some for the mom lol)
This is so reminiscent of My Sister’s keeper. That book was such an amazing and eye opening read. At what point do parents need to let their kids make their own decisions and call the shots about their own bodies?
Conscious like in this clip? Not really....i've seen really low ones, but mostly from immense internal bleeds, wrong IV-medicine/doses or from an allergic reaction they've had sudden BP drops. Or on patiënts that were in the last phase of their lives (dying). None as conscious as this boy was.
I regularly have around 100 over 60, sometimes I have around 85 over 55, but around that point not enough blood reaches my brain to form a full sentence.
I had a BP of 86 over 46 in July and was still conscious and done twice in the ambulance. I was extremely weak and was suffering from a stomach virus and a bad reaction to new meds for my inflammatory bowel disease. Spiking fever, chest pain, low BP, skin rashes, etc. I was in hospital for 16 days while they figured it out with multiple ct scans, an mri, a colonoscopy, bloodtests twice a day, antibiotics, punch biopsies and followup visits with the specialist a month after my discharge. Total cost to me $0 as I am in Australia 🇦🇺 and we have universal health care
In the UK where I had received my treatment the age of consent, at least for medical procedures, is 16. The legal system however is often not enough. Coercion exists. Even if the patient is able to give or withdraw consent it is, in my opinion, the responsibility of the medical staff, however partially, to ensure that those rights are protected. I’ve had nurses not only standby, but side with my mother when she cried and begged and eventually bullied me into invasive surgery even though it was within my legal rights to refuse, because I had just turned 16. I did refuse, for hours on end, at which point it should’ve been the end of the discussion. It wasn’t. And the medical staff proceeded according to the wishes of the family, and not the patient despite it being perfectly clear that I was coerced into signing the consent papers. Cases like this make me angry to this day and I fucking hate these people
Tell the guy to tell the trial people what he did and why. They would not accept him anymore. To irresponsible and risk him not following instructions for the device or actively doing something to it. Much simpler.
She's controlling him when he was in her uterus till now without even realising how bad and inappropriate this is. You should pass him ur opinions or thought but not always imply on them everytime!
Age of medical consent is not the same everywhere. In Québec, Canada, you get to make your medical decision at 14 years old. Obviously most will listent to their parents' advice, but starting at 14 you sign your own medical forms, and can gets medical procedures without your parents being informed, being vaccines, surgery, abortion, tests, etc. So a teen with anti-vaccine parents can get his vaccination done without their consent, a teen with anti-abortion parents who got pregnant can get an abortion, a teen with Jehovah witness parents can get a blood transfusion, a teen with stage 4 cancer can choose not to get treatment, etc. But we have universal health care, so teen treatments do not need approval from parents medical insurance.
I'm sorry but he's right! What the hell is this? supervising decision doesn't mean take complete control! It's like women united making a wrong decision... and the doctor?! Overcompensating and projecting her own bs ?!
What is happening with the recent videos they posted, it says the video is not available. Not this specific one, but the ones they posted this week are like that.
@@mary-janereallynotsarah684 no clue, apparently she was on pd and the lawyer one too but I don’t remember those. You would think they’d check she hadn’t been on the show before, or at least made sure her previous character wasn’t memorable.
Okay some nuanced info so Brandon overdosed himself because he doesn’t want to go on a trial so upped his own dosage hoping to improve his health. The bigger issue his mom is smothering him and he wants to go to school in London the reason she wants him to go on trial is he has to stay if he did.
4:44 why is she less concerned about the patient and mroe concerned wiht defending controlling behavuor? 7:37 his mother is nNOT THE PATIENT. theyre supposed to care abput the patient npt the controlling person whose the reason the aptient is in that hospitla in the first place if people are judging her, its because she deserves to be judged
I completely agree with Halstead on this.
His mother is not the patient, the boy is
yeah yeah stupid I dislike men don't ask
YES!! I was actually very pissed off with the girl doctor, because she was putting the mother's concerns first before the son's. She should prioritize the concerns of the patient before anyone else.
@@Peahpod the girl doctor 🤣😂🤣😂
@@bernadettecphehlo2053 honestly i realized i sounded really dumb after re-reading my comment.
@@bernadettecphehlo2053 also im not sure of the new doctor's names 😜
"Tearing the family apart"? The mother is doing that just fine on her own. Her son is probably going to leave the moment he turns 18, and never speak to his mother again.
Agree to that
yeah
I agree, she’s ruining her son’s life.
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tbh I thought the same. Like if you try to control your kid like that, it will as soon as they turn 18 run away from home, leave the city, change numbers and so on
That Blonde doctor was such a pain really. There is nothing wrong with evaluating all the possibilities. If a doctor thinks the patient could be in potential danger, it being psychological or physical it is literally THEIR JOB to interfere! And i believe there is something they teach in Med School about maintaining their patient's freedom by making it clear what all the options are and let them decide by themselves, and as he said "Brandon's the patient, not the mom".
She was so annoying and her horrible acting made things worse.
Some doctors need to realize that some parents aren’t the caring kind just bc they had great parents lol. Happy he stuck to his guns
But he could have tried to talk to the mother, undestand the situation and convince her before tell the boy to try the most extreme solution. In the end she was really a good mother, she was just scared. The way that the blond doctor talked to her made she feel more secure to open up about the situation. If the boy is going to another country, he probably will need support, so a good relationship with his mother might be really important to his adaptation
That mother doesn't deserve the coddling. She needs to be aware her son is a person with feelings.
hate those "smother" parents
Doesn't her son have a very rare, terminal illness? One which he thinks he doesn't need to treat before college "because he knows he body better than anyone."
He sounds like a dumb kid. And he is still a kid. He does not have the legal right to terminate or delay treatment.
I agree with Halstead, but I don't think the last scene was coddling. It may have helped the mother see the error of her ways and how she's smothering her son. She does love him, but in a destructive way. Those things are not necessarily mutually exclusive, especially among families. Which is why it such a split in bad faith is so hurtful for both sides and can lead to so much bitterness. The son is completely in his right to distance himself from his mother if she keeps this up, so let's hope that she learns from this and learns to let him find his own way. He may forgive her in time if she keeps working on herself.
"I was always the little girl who wished I had a mom like you." She was putting her personal bias and opinions in the way of patient care without even realizing it. She saw a boy that had a doting protective parent and thought, I wish I had that as a kid, this lady can't be doing any harm, her son should be grateful.
That blonde nurse wants a helicopter mother, not a doting protective one. Which means, she can't see the down side of that.
@@RebekahAPinto That's fuckin' screwed
@@JA268 It is.
@@RebekahAPinto Doctor. I agree, but Doctor
She was a pain in this episode
Halstead is completely right about this.
He provided another solution (an extreme one) and the son was willing to go through with it which shows how desperate he is and how confident he is with his decision. THE MOM IS NOT THE PATIENT. The boy has the right to know his choices.
This show really brings to light the difficulty medical professionals have in dealing with parents who think they know better.
Your comment made me want to watch a series about primary school teachers...the amount of things they go through: pupils with special needs, lack of funding, parents who think they know better, etc...
@@alexdelaloire8739 as someone who taught first to third graders after college I get what you mean.
@@alexdelaloire8739 Check out Abbott Elementary!
@@marlajoywood I already did but it kinda mocks teachers so I'm not really into it
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i grew up i australia and it didnt occur to me that other parts of the world dont allow you to make medical decisions at 16. ive been seeking my own care since then and parents have no right to interject on whatever decision i make from 16.
Yes, me too, I believe it’s actually 14 where I live in Australia. I was able to get help without my parents opinions on mental health getting in the way.
It’s 16 in the UK too
@@OMTMedia depending on your mental capacity it can be 12 in the UK if you get courts involved
Here in Ontario Canada once you’re 16 your parents no longer have legal right to your medical records or decisions. Unless it’s something not covered by OHIP and would need to go on their benefits.
In Québec, Canada, age of medical consent is 14 years old. Even if you have to be hospitalized for something, the only thing hospitals are obligated to do is inform the parents their child is hospitalized so they don't report him as missing to the police. But I think for the USA, since they don't have universal health care, the must have parent's insurance and such.
In Asian countries, families must give their consent even for an adult to have a medical procedure. Like the husband, mother-in-law must consent for the daughter-in-law to have necessary surgery. Medical culture is not the same everywhere.
Tbf the boy deserves a choice in his condition
Ok?
It's not that easy.
But both sides should be considered.
@@salmasayed5274 no it shouldn’t be, his medical condition affects her in absolutely no way nut it affects him constantly, a patient especially at 17 should be old enough to say no to any medical trials from the moment they can say no.
If someone has Down syndrome you cant just star giving them surgery to alter their face and make them appear more “normal” unless their Down syndrome has morphed their face to the point that their breathing or vision is affected, but in this situation there is nothing deathly wrong with the kid, everything wrong with him he can manage this is literally just his mother wanting him fixed so she doesn’t have to worry about him
Not really the kid should have a say he’s competent and in many countries would have control over his own healthcare and especially for clinical trials being forced to participate against your own wishes even as an underage teen is unethical.
@Luna Dark I get your point.
And actually I agree that putting the limit 18 years old is just meaningless, maybe even abrupt.
But what I mean is, you can try first to get a point of agreement between the mother and the boy. They don't have to fight to reach the boy's best interest.
The guy was right in that the kid was his patient, not the mother and he only gave him options.
Pft. "Wished she had a mom like you". Don't encourage that sorta controlling behaviour.
Get grief counselling, not drugs, mother.
Lol no no no she does not wish she had that...
“I’m here to advocate for my patient, it’s my job. And it’s yours but you seem to have forgotten that.”
11/10
This is what happens when people treat their sick kids as projects or puzzles to be solved rather than people. Many people with complex illnesses live independent and full lives.
yeah this happened to me. My mum got a bit controlling and while I don;t have complex illnesses I have adhd/
3:21 - that right there is the problem … she is so wrapped up in trying to keep him from harm that that’s what is harming him in the first place to the point where she is almost infantalizing him to keep herself frozen in time
The boy is old enough to make his own decisions and take care of his own health.
I normally don’t agree with will but in this case he had nothing but the patients wishes in mind, this is kinda out of character since he normally just cares about the medicine instead of their wishes 😂
I think his mom has muncheusen aproxy, people who have that illness need profesional help
@@danieladelcastillolocatell5839She doesn’t have. MSbP, the video literally goes out of its way to show that. It’s more likely to be Vulnerable Child syndrome, when a child that has been really sick in the last causes a parent to constantly worry that something is wrong even when there isn’t.
@@danieladelcastillolocatell5839 his mom is literally trying to get him into a trial that would make him LESS dependent on her. The first medical choice the kid made on his own was to secretly try to give himself diabetes.
I could recall it in a DSM 5-tr, it's Factitious Disorder Imposed on Another, and most cases happen by mothers as see here
Edit:
And guess what, if you could recall the Gypsy Rose Blanchard case, her mother has this disorder
@@danieladelcastillolocatell5839the disease is real so it’s not munchausens
I agree with Halstead the mum is not the patient her son is and she can’t make decisions for him
Sometimes people think they act with the best intensions and because of the purest love but when you take a deeper look at it it boils down to their own need of being loved and in control and have a purpose.
Legally, what is the age at which kids got to make their own choice in a situation like this in America? You'd think that by 17 somebody would be able to make their own choices.
Legally, it's 18. Parents can override things their kids say or want cuz they're the parents, legal guardianship and stuff
@@baggyshirt8120 ohh god that’s a mess in the UK it’s 16, but younger than that you can make a GP appointment and it’s private/confidential unless the doctor thinks your at risk. Then they can contact social services/police but they’re meant to tell you first. I couldn’t imagine having my parents involved in my health care when i was a teenager.
also clinical trials have their own rules, the minor patient is often asked to sign the Informed Consent Form and there is another Informed Consent for the parent, so if the son doesnt want to join the trial the doctors cannot do anything about that and the parent signature will not be enough. But here we need the drama so the truth is a little changed :)
@@leocervidae when my son had suspected appendicitis the surgeons asked him to sign the consent form. He was 3 days away from his 15th birthday
@@leocervidae I think also in UK if it's not considered life-or-death, if a kid says 'no' to being put to sleep for a procedure, the doctors have to listen.
Dr. Hallstead is 10000% right in this on!!! Screw the mom .. it’s Brandon’s choice !!! He’s the patient he has the right to know his options
7:22 that line is not at all welcome in a workplace. Means she had it personal, she refused to step out of her box into the patient's, failing the oath she took.
Shows that she’s a hypocrite as well.
I like how they didn't go the cartoonishly-evil route with the mother, she pushed her son to the point he would rather inflict himself with something as serious as diabetes on top of his already existing chronic illness, but they also showed that she is human and that her behavior stems from unprocessed grief over her husband's death fueling the completely understandable fear that it will happen again.
In Canada there's no stipulated age for medical consent: "There is no stipulated age of consent for treatment. A person under 18 years of age who is assessed and deemed capable of consenting to treatment (a mature minor) is allowed to make treatment decisions." So it's up to doctors to determine if the minor aged patient is capable and they can override the parents if they seemed unreasonable or are putting the child in danger. For really young kids, they'd need to talk to a judge of course.
I live in Canada and was making medical decisions at 14/15. I was mature enough then and I was already going to appointments on my own having several conditions
But if a person of any age demonstrates that they don't understand the consequences of terminating treatment, they can be compelled to be institutionalized until they are no longer a harm to themselves. As you mentioned, courts would have to become involved at that point. But it is not impossible to imagine that this kid would not be allowed to terminate treatment.
In New Zealand 16 is considered an adult in medicine
OP: same in UK. In any case the child's opinion must be listened to.
@storietime8781 Canadian as well, also a mom of four (one of which with a lifelong condition) and I am so so absolutely in favour of this.
You don't just magically become able to make decisions the second you turn 18, there are PLENTY of teens who can and should be able to make decisions about their bodies and medical treatments! My eldest is 10 and is very mature (though a bit impulsive, and has a hard time thinking of the long run as many kids do) but I always do my best to explain things to her, and let her make input and decisions when possible.
Like when we found out she has ADHD last year, I let it be completely her decision what interventions she wanted, and when she chose medication I made it clear to her that taking these was HER choice, and she could change her mind anytime.
She's going to be a nightmare for her daughter in law
Oh my god, i would RUN at that lady
😂
The kid's fed up with his mother controlling his life 24/7.
She, or rather, THEY need counseling.
Mom, to understand her son isnt made of glass and going to break any moment.
The son, to process the loss of his father and his medical condition.
There’s no way doctors would admit him to a trial without his assent, even with the mom’s consent
I prefer the approach of gillick competence. If the individual has the capacity to understand what the treatment is, the consequences etc, then they are entitled to make their own decisions.
Boy deserves a new home where his safe and he don't have problems
No. The way the female actor talked to the mother was perfect and understanding. It convinced her with letting him go without dismissing the natural fear and overprotective behaviour that can come with it.
Having a new home is a problem itself.
That's what started the whole thing though. He gets dangerously sick if not properly monitored. Did you not listen to the mother? She's over protective not dangerous. It's not wrong to want to keep your child alive. It's her method that's a little questionable
@@Ebunoluwa13 I think that’s depend which one u think is more important to be able to live or to survive?
@@salmasayed5274 that's not that simple though. The Doctor may have talked to the Mother and the Mother may have understood but it's all about is she actually going to change.
@@midnightaurora9483 she doesn't really need to change her personality or stop worrying about her child.
Changing her acts is enough because acts are what matter.
Parents always do that trying to squeeze the last control over their children as soon as they know they are reaching adulthood
BRANDON SHOULD NOT HAVE TO APOLOGISE! he should say "Im sorry mom. I'm sorry that you may have had parents controlling you growing up but I am 18 in less than 6months and I AM NOT going to let you control me!"
Love a person who thinks a child belongs to his parents and doesnt deserve any autonomy or choice in his own life =_= what a toxic person
'I want to speak with your supervisor'
It is at that moment that they knew, they were dealing with a Karen 😂.
Im 1000000% with Halstead. Mom is doing more harm than good being overbearing. I understand being scared and careful. But not letting your kid have any life whatsoever is torture for him and he will either live a life of misery or eventually rebel in order to get his life back.
Its a parent job to take care of the kid, but you cant control their every move.
I stand with Dr Halstead
7:19 what a control freak! the mother not listening I would of shouted and give her a good listen
Its His body
It's not that easy. Both sides had good points.
If a child wants to cut himself would you let him? 🙂
@@salmasayed5274 that is two separate issues wtf.
Well I have a unique insight here my parents forced me to take something I was allergic too ( resulted in me being in hospital for a week worst week of my life I was throwing up every 5 minutes and in hell of a fever had i.v. lines in me everywhere) I warned my mother but she was adamant ( threatened me with homelessness if I didn't) within 45 minutes I was so sick ambulance was called all would have been prevented if she had listened to me in the first place I'd had anaphylaxis reaction to a medication before I asked her should I take that again? At the hospital the consultant said why the hell did you take something you're allergic too! I said I had no choice
Your example is harmful. A young man wanting to be allowed to make his own decisions about his own body and not be forced to have optuinal medical procedures he didn't want is not harmful to themselves. t@salmasayed5274
@@salmasayed5274there’s a difference. That is self harm. Participating in a Clinical Trial is not
the son is practically legal now, he should be making his own decisions
What annoys me is that they never actually ask what dosage he is on and what she gives him.
Ummm I have addisons and only have one adrenal gland. Yes, I've had crisis's but this lady is acting like it's a death sentence....as long as I stick to my hydrocortisone doses each day all is good jeez!
you won't fully understand this until you're a teen in a childs' ward and having made every descision without your input. He won't magically be different at 18. It's not a switch to flick. There needs to be a compromise for teenaged kids. Being 17 and 364 days and being 18 is the exact same. Only that one of them is granted emancipation and the other isn't
it may not be his choice at 17, but in a year it will be his choice, and I'd be willing to bet the mother will regret her decisions.
Here’s the thing, if Brannon is ready to take medication to not be viable for the trial he will continue to do so or even worse if it comes down to it. The more you push Someone the more likely it is they push back. The kid and mother need counselling here so they can have an open conversation, yes the mom is looking out for her sons safety but she’s also overriding his decisions, a loss of control is what Pushed Brennons mom into managing his medication in the first place.
It's why 'kids do drugs'. cuz parents say they are bad and that fact makes it more appeaing.
@@kinagrilli think this is a bit of a different situation. His whole almost 18 years of life has been controlled by his mother’s fear of losing this kid. He is a teenager and should be able to take medication on his own. He should have already learned to take the right dosages and everything. She is keeping his son from growing up and that’s why he is doing this. He feels so desperate to have a bit of freedom. If she pushes him into doing the trial he will go no contact as soon as he turns 18. It’s about the kid not the mother. It’s not her body but his, he should have some say in this. The mother is ruining her family herself.
It’s his choice
that blonde doctor infuriated me. the kid literally poisoned himself cause he felt so desperate the mum is so controlling
What did the mother think was going to happen if she suddenly passed away, and her son had yet to learn how to be responsible for his own condition/medication?
This woman was probably how Gypsy Rose Blanchard's mother was like
No she was far more screwed up
No matter what the mother wants medically for her son, he can say no and there is nothing she can do. Any doctor that sides with the mother should lose their license. And the mother should lose their child.
Smart cookie . Fuckin Absolutely ‼️‼️
IF ITS A OPTION, why is it bad for him to tell the kid to get the only chance? Why witheld the information.
because then the mother wouldnt get her way and the blond doctor cant ahve that
Male doc is in the right, & Blondie is projecting. That kid was abusing medication & ready to give himself a life-altering disease on top of the one he already has to get out of a clinical trial he did not want to go through with. How is that not a Massive concern?
Both doctors handled separate family members well.
You can feel for both
True.
I feel for the mom but she's ultimately in the wrong here.
I hate how they instantly either accuse the parent or the child I spent my entire life in and out of hospital and because they didn't know what was wrong with me it was either I was making myself sick, I was overreacting to the pain or my parents where hurting me I didn't get a diagnosis until I was 23 to this day I hate going to my local hospital because even with it they still treat me like I'm lying
Unfortunately a lot of times that is the case though weather on purpose or accident but in a situation like this where an insanely overbearing mother clearly states she controls everything to do with the kid it really isnt hard to suspect something like it
@@lunadark6666 I can understand from both sides because they are just worried about the child but they jump to the conclusion so fast that they didn't even bother testing for other things first
@@vampgirl101rocks no no no they said they did a bunch of tests and nothing showed up so it was pointing back to the medication which she controls (sorry if this sounds mean at all that’s not my intention)
@Luna Dark but before they did the diabetes test or even spoke to them he has already made up his mind (that's okay I don't see it as mean just a conversation 😀) I think I missed the bit about the other tests though oops haha
@@vampgirl101rocks I think he was more iffy about how she seemed all fussed and bothered about it when the kid himself said that the trial wasn’t a huge deal so it looked like she was making herself accidentally seem suspicious by being overly worried (if that makes any sense)
6:19 six months later he’s 18 😂
Love your videos they’re so fun❤🎉
Technically he is doing his job and not really interfering, like the patients need to be advices on ALL possibly solutions and that is one of them.
People are always so quick to judge. The world would be a much better place if we can pause for a sec and try to see situations from the perspectives of everyone involved. Ultimately all of us are biased and will take a side but at least try a bit of empathy and compromise first.
I think that's a pretty big assumption, and shows you are also biased. In a case like this, we can all see the mother's side, wanting to protect her son and take care of him, like she's been doing his whole life. But we also see the son's perspective. At what point does it become his life that he gets to live on his terms? At 17, Mom needs to take a step back and see she's raised him, and trust that she raised him right, and will make good choices. Smothering a child with love, and trying to wrap them in bubble wrap will only have the opposite effect she's hoping for. You have to let the baby bird leave the nest. Anything else is unfair and selfish. Love your children, but let them live their lives.
@@Mystress1980 Wonderfully worded!! Love your children as actual human beings, not as pets or living toys
@@Mystress1980You literally agreed with me (everyone has bias, I'm part of everyone) and proved my point (we could all do with more empathy and compassion, which you do seem to have some for the mom lol)
2:10 he has legit points
This is so reminiscent of My Sister’s keeper. That book was such an amazing and eye opening read. At what point do parents need to let their kids make their own decisions and call the shots about their own bodies?
The movie was excellent
why in a series that LOVES to call in psyciatric every time something happens did they not do so in this case?
BP 100 over 20? Is this even possible?
Conscious like in this clip? Not really....i've seen really low ones, but mostly from immense internal bleeds, wrong IV-medicine/doses or from an allergic reaction they've had sudden BP drops. Or on patiënts that were in the last phase of their lives (dying). None as conscious as this boy was.
Ikr 😂😭
The diastolic seems to be too low for the systolic
I regularly have around 100 over 60, sometimes I have around 85 over 55, but around that point not enough blood reaches my brain to form a full sentence.
I had a BP of 86 over 46 in July and was still conscious and done twice in the ambulance. I was extremely weak and was suffering from a stomach virus and a bad reaction to new meds for my inflammatory bowel disease. Spiking fever, chest pain, low BP, skin rashes, etc. I was in hospital for 16 days while they figured it out with multiple ct scans, an mri, a colonoscopy, bloodtests twice a day, antibiotics, punch biopsies and followup visits with the specialist a month after my discharge. Total cost to me $0 as I am in Australia 🇦🇺 and we have universal health care
This mother has already appeared on this show as a young lady with long hair,now with short hair 🤣😂😂
In the UK where I had received my treatment the age of consent, at least for medical procedures, is 16. The legal system however is often not enough. Coercion exists. Even if the patient is able to give or withdraw consent it is, in my opinion, the responsibility of the medical staff, however partially, to ensure that those rights are protected. I’ve had nurses not only standby, but side with my mother when she cried and begged and eventually bullied me into invasive surgery even though it was within my legal rights to refuse, because I had just turned 16. I did refuse, for hours on end, at which point it should’ve been the end of the discussion. It wasn’t. And the medical staff proceeded according to the wishes of the family, and not the patient despite it being perfectly clear that I was coerced into signing the consent papers. Cases like this make me angry to this day and I fucking hate these people
The patient is the boy and not the family.
Classic example of a Helicopter Mum!
In my country, who ever pay got to decide, which means parents most of the time
her son is not her doll, i agree with halsted 100%
Tell the guy to tell the trial people what he did and why. They would not accept him anymore. To irresponsible and risk him not following instructions for the device or actively doing something to it. Much simpler.
Get the shrinks ASAP.
🥺 this hit home so bad, ur ok but can’t make any decisions cos of them as if ur not ok.
It was his dream to go to college in London
There is a simpler way. Get the kid to tell the trial personnel what he did. Makes him unreliable for a clinical trial and excluded
She's controlling him when he was in her uterus till now without even realising how bad and inappropriate this is. You should pass him ur opinions or thought but not always imply on them everytime!
dude's old enough to make decisions, people with illnesses deserve to move away from their parents
BP 100/20... boy that doesn't even make sense. It's physically not possible. I can't watch these medical shows a RN 😅
Age of medical consent is not the same everywhere. In Québec, Canada, you get to make your medical decision at 14 years old. Obviously most will listent to their parents' advice, but starting at 14 you sign your own medical forms, and can gets medical procedures without your parents being informed, being vaccines, surgery, abortion, tests, etc. So a teen with anti-vaccine parents can get his vaccination done without their consent, a teen with anti-abortion parents who got pregnant can get an abortion, a teen with Jehovah witness parents can get a blood transfusion, a teen with stage 4 cancer can choose not to get treatment, etc. But we have universal health care, so teen treatments do not need approval from parents medical insurance.
Then you turn eighteen and get prescribed suicide lol
I love this video soooooooooo much 😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Honestly, Stevie seems like a pushover and I feel like she would be a similar mom if she becomes one
This mother reminds me so much of my own, controlling narcissist of a mother....
I'm sorry but he's right! What the hell is this? supervising decision doesn't mean take complete control! It's like women united making a wrong decision... and the doctor?! Overcompensating and projecting her own bs ?!
What is happening with the recent videos they posted, it says the video is not available. Not this specific one, but the ones they posted this week are like that.
Was the mom already on the show as dr Rhoades's one night stand with heart problems? The one that cheated on her husband?
oh man
So sad
The boy is the patient not the mother will did have the patents best interest especially since the patient is turning 18 in 6 months
I love Chicago med
Tks,okosl
she proves her bias at the end talking about wanting a mom like her. gg ez
Omg isn't this the same woman that had an affair with Dr Rhodes and he noticed something was wrong with her heart and brought her in?
Omg it totally looks like her
I don't think so.
It absolutely is, I just checked IMDb because I was CONVINCED it was the same actor
@@eleanormaddocks1834 how did they cast the actor twice? I hate that. Only soaps are allowed to do that.
@@mary-janereallynotsarah684 no clue, apparently she was on pd and the lawyer one too but I don’t remember those. You would think they’d check she hadn’t been on the show before, or at least made sure her previous character wasn’t memorable.
That scary
Okay some nuanced info so Brandon overdosed himself because he doesn’t want to go on a trial so upped his own dosage hoping to improve his health. The bigger issue his mom is smothering him and he wants to go to school in London the reason she wants him to go on trial is he has to stay if he did.
if house was here, this conversation will be ending less than 1 minute
Does anybody else stop and look up all the medical terms they don't know? 😂
🤒so sad
I love Cindy my wife so much ❤😊
So glad to live in a place with a mature minor law..
hi I love yor vizos
4:44 why is she less concerned about the patient and mroe concerned wiht defending controlling behavuor?
7:37 his mother is nNOT THE PATIENT. theyre supposed to care abput the patient npt the controlling person whose the reason the aptient is in that hospitla in the first place
if people are judging her, its because she deserves to be judged
wait blood sugar as in bgl?? 200?????
The blonde doctor is the same type of doctor that failed Gypsy Rose most likely.