7:16 plays cue 8:54 VCAs 9:58 recording passes 11:45 system usage 12:24 ATMOS mix 14:06 Mic'ing 14:51 Strings EQ 16:15 Strings saturation 18:16 Strings boost 20:04 Strings short 20:52 Strings short distortion 21:49 Strings short pre-records 23:07 Brass 24:19 How will music be mixed with foley & dialogue? 26:01 Reverb 27:04 Percussion reverb 28:48 Percussion plate reverb 30:26 Delay before reverb 31:59 Percussion alignment 33:42 Percussion transients 34:02 How do you keep control of the low end? 36:26 Percussion parallel bus 41:00 Haas effect 44:48 EQ tips 45:36 EQ tips for orchestral samples 46:46 EQ before reverb 47:57 How do you handle that many tracks? 50:37 Reference 53:28 EQ pure orchestral recording 54:09 Samples choir 55:44 Ethnic woodwind 56:59 Various tips 59:21 Transient on Col legno 1:00:30 Do you use distortion in orchestral recordings? 1:04:21 LFE sends for orchestral 1:08:58 What is silky? 1:10:28 About personality 1:11:35 Final message Thanks so much Alan Meyerson & Waves! This is gold.
It's actually better for waves to let him show the real session with all the non waves plugins because then when there actually is a waves plugin it's more believable that he would actually use it on the real mix.
This masterclass video HAS to be the single best free resource for simple, elegant, and effective mixing; I keep coming back to this specific video time and time again. After implementing just a few tips and tricks Alan uses here I feel that my mixes just leveled up so much. Truly just actually amazing value here.
This is one of the very best video/classes I've seen to date-anywhere. And Alan...you were terrific. I love your personality......Please consider another! Waves should be so proud of this content; and you too Alan Meyerson.
I agree! So kind of him to give up his time to do this. I love how subtle he is with EQ, as he doesn't want to loose the natural character of the instruments. A little saturation can go along way. Let's hope they do another!
Pay attention at 48:15. That back and forth is gold. Always respect the demo. Then after that, the host says something great. “Let the instrument tell you it needs to be there.”
I've never actually seen the movie but have listened to the score many many times. Alan Meyerson is an absolutely amazing mix engineer and anything he puts out I will watch with hungry ears. Thank you Mr. Meyerson.
The lessons of these people are helping me to prepare the soundtrack to the theatrical premiere, which will take place in one month: Tom Holkenborg, Alan Meyerson, Jake Jackson. Thank you, great geniuses!
I agree, I owe them so much. Learnt so much from all their masterclasses and tutorials. Orchestral mixing is a bloody under-rated skill and they deserve more credit.
I'd love to see an Alan Meyerson collection by Waves.😊 Something to help composers get better mixes for demos. Processing for individual orchestral sections, percussion, choir and synths.
Wow...This "masterclass/tutorial" worth much more than many courses out there, and non at reasonable price...so, I am very greatful to lear a lot of things coming from one of the truly SIR in the world. Thank you so much!
Great stuff. Changed my whole perspective. I work with MIDI mockups using EWQL and Logic Pro. Now I will try out rendering my instrument tracks to audio duplicated using different mike set-ps (close, stage and surround). Also rendering different tracks for eg short and long strings, likewise for other sections.
Thanks a bunch for this initiative. It's so rare to have the behind the scenes of a music score. Mixing records we have en masse, but a score, a surround sound score, now that's great. Quick question : am I to understand right that he inserts his favourite tape machine delay on the long strings subgroup? Enlighten me if you can.
fantastic masterclass, soothing sounding professional and a pleasure to learn from. Nice one Waves for getting this guy, maybe we can have him again for the aggressive stuff he mentioned.
thanks for the Great video! unfortunately they didnt talk about a very important part - the routing - I can see all of the subgroups he mentions and that makes a lot of sense. but they all go to a main master? how is that one looking? also got the kramer tape on it? and all the FX returns (reverb track in the back of the session) going directly to the same main master? Because that would mean, if the subgroups were to be printed - they would be DRY? could make sense in some cases, but in most cases probably not. @waves audio is there any information about that?
They print stems for each major food group to deliver to the stage. So any effects applied to the orchestra would go to just the orchestra stem. Those submixes all feed to a master 5.1 and a 2Mix fold down. But the effects are baked into each stem so when you put up all the stems together you get the same mix as the 6Mx.
I totally enjoyed hearing where all the speakers are placed in the theater. I have a 10ch system setup for my keyboards. When I’m playing piano & strings (LASS) live, it make a huge difference compared to just a 2ch stereo setup.
Thanks a lot Alan and Waves , this is an invaluable video with great knowledge of techniques and experience. As Alan said I love being in this time for audio production since we can share knowledge all over the world. Thanks again for great plug-ins and thus great video. 👋
So wonderful! I’ve learned so much from this masterclass and Jake Jackson’s he has out. I wish they would go a little more in depth with how they use reverb though. I’m a composer but a very poorly self taught audio engineer haha. I have no concrete idea on how to properly use reverb to create orchestral depth. I used to have 5 reverb busses with the same reverbs that were set to differing wet/dry ratios from very dry to the front to wet in the back, (with a separate reverb on mastering channel) but I feel this is wrong. I’ve seen others use only two different reverb busses (one for shorter notes, one for longer) which makes sense to me. However, I don’t understand how you create the orchestral depth from this method. Ugh so confused! Wish I would have double majored in composition annnnnd audio engineering haha.
If you are using reverbs on sends, then the reverb on the send should be set to 100% wet, and you mix it in parallel. The only time you use the wet/dry would be if you put the reverb directly on the track instead of as a send.
It sounds like he is using multiple reverb busses, and they have similar sounds on each, ie, one has a short hall and the other has a long hall, and then you just blend elements in that way.
@@JP-zq8yv Its an outstanding plugin but it's made by Fabfilter not waves. Truth be told, Alan Meyerson is arguably the finest film mixer in the game today. He doesn't use waves very often.
Awesome video! Thank you so much! Small question, how do you use kramer tape stereo plugin on a surround channel and still affect all the channel? Thanks a lot!
I see Alan using certain plugins on tracks that I have found to not work on all Channels on say a quad or 5.1 buss. Puightech eq only effects stereo Channels for example.
Anyone know why he is using the mono version of the Kramer master tape instead of stereo? Or how he is inserting that on a group channel that is stereo . Wouldn’t it just make it mono or is he using 2 of them?
![Film Score Mixing Masterclass with Jake Jackson [Star Wars, Doctor Who, Black Mirror]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/MLkrYY60KCw/mqdefault.jpg)
7:16 plays cue
8:54 VCAs
9:58 recording passes
11:45 system usage
12:24 ATMOS mix
14:06 Mic'ing
14:51 Strings EQ
16:15 Strings saturation
18:16 Strings boost
20:04 Strings short
20:52 Strings short distortion
21:49 Strings short pre-records
23:07 Brass
24:19 How will music be mixed with foley & dialogue?
26:01 Reverb
27:04 Percussion reverb
28:48 Percussion plate reverb
30:26 Delay before reverb
31:59 Percussion alignment
33:42 Percussion transients
34:02 How do you keep control of the low end?
36:26 Percussion parallel bus
41:00 Haas effect
44:48 EQ tips
45:36 EQ tips for orchestral samples
46:46 EQ before reverb
47:57 How do you handle that many tracks?
50:37 Reference
53:28 EQ pure orchestral recording
54:09 Samples choir
55:44 Ethnic woodwind
56:59 Various tips
59:21 Transient on Col legno
1:00:30 Do you use distortion in orchestral recordings?
1:04:21 LFE sends for orchestral
1:08:58 What is silky?
1:10:28 About personality
1:11:35 Final message
Thanks so much Alan Meyerson & Waves! This is gold.
You are a hero, sir.
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Thanks so much for this!
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It's actually better for waves to let him show the real session with all the non waves plugins because then when there actually is a waves plugin it's more believable that he would actually use it on the real mix.
That’s what mix with the masters brings to the table haha
This masterclass video HAS to be the single best free resource for simple, elegant, and effective mixing; I keep coming back to this specific video time and time again. After implementing just a few tips and tricks Alan uses here I feel that my mixes just leveled up so much. Truly just actually amazing value here.
52:00 the A & B clarity is crazy! So much more shiny and clear
This is one of the very best video/classes I've seen to date-anywhere. And Alan...you were terrific. I love your personality......Please consider another! Waves should be so proud of this content; and you too Alan Meyerson.
I agree! So kind of him to give up his time to do this. I love how subtle he is with EQ, as he doesn't want to loose the natural character of the instruments. A little saturation can go along way. Let's hope they do another!
It's incredible how subtle changes improve overall quality of the mix. The best tips for those who are into symphonic music.
Pay attention at 48:15. That back and forth is gold.
Always respect the demo.
Then after that, the host says something great. “Let the instrument tell you it needs to be there.”
This was incredible! Love Alan's heart to impart knowledge.
Thank you Alan and Team Waves for your time and sharing the Master Class :)
I've never actually seen the movie but have listened to the score many many times. Alan Meyerson is an absolutely amazing mix engineer and anything he puts out I will watch with hungry ears. Thank you Mr. Meyerson.
This was the best hour of my entire lockdown so far 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 Joyous from start to finish. Thank you!
The lessons of these people are helping me to prepare the soundtrack to the theatrical premiere, which will take place in one month: Tom Holkenborg, Alan Meyerson, Jake Jackson.
Thank you, great geniuses!
I agree, I owe them so much. Learnt so much from all their masterclasses and tutorials. Orchestral mixing is a bloody under-rated skill and they deserve more credit.
Thanks you Waves for the masterclass and Alan is a great man and is a very nice person. I'd like to see more videos with him in a future.
Watching this again tonight. Thank you so much Alan Meyerson for your amazing insight into mixing orchestral music
Thank you for this, Waves Audio. So great to find this kind of content on your channel :)
Excellent, eye-opening tutorial. Thank you Mr. Meyerson
I'd love to see an Alan Meyerson collection by Waves.😊 Something to help composers get better mixes for demos. Processing for individual orchestral sections, percussion, choir and synths.
Wow...This "masterclass/tutorial"
worth much more than many courses out there, and non at reasonable price...so, I am very greatful to lear a lot of things coming from one of the truly SIR in the world. Thank you so much!
How amazing! Alan just unlocked a new level for me!! Thanks Waves and Alan ^^!
Great Class😊 Thanks Waves 🎧🔥👍
Es todo un placer ver a Alen como trabaja y como sabes sacar lo mejor de cada sonido siempre...para mi es uno de los mejores hoy día.
23:22 Oh my! Not waves!!
ha so quick, was like opened a tab with porn on it ;)
@@ParlanceOpus he used soundtoys too:D
I'm sorry to ask but what is so funny about this Plugin? What is it known for?
J P it’s just not a plug-in from waves
@@mobz315 Thanks a lot!
Great stuff. Changed my whole perspective. I work with MIDI mockups using EWQL and Logic Pro. Now I will try out rendering my instrument tracks to audio duplicated using different mike set-ps (close, stage and surround). Also rendering different tracks for eg short and long strings, likewise for other sections.
Swapping from the rough mix to Alan's was heavenly
23:23 And for this I just used the Fabfilter Pro-Q2 just to trim a bit of the very low end, you hear how it clears things up a bit.
ahaha nice one, watched twice and did not notice ahaha
fab is king
Thanx Waves for this Masterclass!!! Mr. Meyerson is such a talented mixer and a wonderful personality!!!
This was an amazing master class. Thank you so much for your insight. I'll be revisiting this video many times for reference and inspiration.
Thanks a bunch for this initiative. It's so rare to have the behind the scenes of a music score. Mixing records we have en masse, but a score, a surround sound score, now that's great. Quick question : am I to understand right that he inserts his favourite tape machine delay on the long strings subgroup? Enlighten me if you can.
Yup
fantastic masterclass, soothing sounding professional and a pleasure to learn from. Nice one Waves for getting this guy, maybe we can have him again for the aggressive stuff he mentioned.
This was a fantastic class. Thank you.
Thank you guys for this video, It has been very insightful! I learned a lot. More in-depth videos like this please!
thanks for the Great video! unfortunately they didnt talk about a very important part - the routing - I can see all of the subgroups he mentions and that makes a lot of sense. but they all go to a main master? how is that one looking? also got the kramer tape on it? and all the FX returns (reverb track in the back of the session) going directly to the same main master? Because that would mean, if the subgroups were to be printed - they would be DRY? could make sense in some cases, but in most cases probably not. @waves audio is there any information about that?
They print stems for each major food group to deliver to the stage. So any effects applied to the orchestra would go to just the orchestra stem. Those submixes all feed to a master 5.1 and a 2Mix fold down. But the effects are baked into each stem so when you put up all the stems together you get the same mix as the 6Mx.
Thank you so much for the masterclasse with Alan Meyerson..
I totally enjoyed hearing where all the speakers are placed in the theater.
I have a 10ch system setup for my keyboards. When I’m playing piano & strings (LASS) live, it make a huge difference compared to just a 2ch stereo setup.
Somehow, watching this man be in control makes me feel very safe.
Thank u so much Waves for doing this Video.
That Wonder Woman track, if I listened to it during work... my performance would be EPIC!
If I mentioned 400 odd tracks in the presence of my computer it would explode
😅
Thanks a lot Alan and Waves , this is an invaluable video with great knowledge of techniques and experience. As Alan said I love being in this time for audio production since we can share knowledge all over the world. Thanks again for great plug-ins and thus great video. 👋
Sliced bread's got nuthin' on this masterclass! SUPREME!!!! Many thanks!!!!
Thank you so much, Such great bits and pieces we can all learn from :)
Probably the biggest session I've ever seen.😲
This is pure gems. Just amazing
What an awesome kind man...love this guy!
Absolutely loved this guys! Thank you! Alan is an absolute legend! 😊
What the actual heck. There is like 500 of tracks. My jaw dropped. Unbelieavable.
Amazing video. I'm a huge fan of Alan...thank you Waves
Excellent video!
please more of this kind of stuff. much appreciated
Great guy, great knowledge
Great video, so much good tips from a legend. Thanks
Thank you, Alan!
Thank you Alan!
Thank you so much for doing this! Huge masterclass.
Alan is a legend, this video was great
32:50. THIS is a true master.
Thank You!
🙏🙂🤍👌
57:50 - PURE ESSENCE !!!
I'd love to see a follow up with action cues. :) Part 2 Part 2!!!
What a great guy. So enjoyable.
Excellent - really appreciate sharing this information.
Thank you Waves for this masterclass!!! Cheers, Jeroen Simons, Independent/ ex- EPICA.
24:23 Is there anyone knowing what plugins he uses for imaging or panning? The graphic above the volume knobs
It's not a plugin. The squares above the faders are panners in Protools. He's using a mix of Surround Mono and Stereo panning.
So wonderful! I’ve learned so much from this masterclass and Jake Jackson’s he has out. I wish they would go a little more in depth with how they use reverb though. I’m a composer but a very poorly self taught audio engineer haha. I have no concrete idea on how to properly use reverb to create orchestral depth. I used to have 5 reverb busses with the same reverbs that were set to differing wet/dry ratios from very dry to the front to wet in the back, (with a separate reverb on mastering channel) but I feel this is wrong. I’ve seen others use only two different reverb busses (one for shorter notes, one for longer) which makes sense to me. However, I don’t understand how you create the orchestral depth from this method. Ugh so confused! Wish I would have double majored in composition annnnnd audio engineering haha.
If you are using reverbs on sends, then the reverb on the send should be set to 100% wet, and you mix it in parallel. The only time you use the wet/dry would be if you put the reverb directly on the track instead of as a send.
It sounds like he is using multiple reverb busses, and they have similar sounds on each, ie, one has a short hall and the other has a long hall, and then you just blend elements in that way.
Ha, he pulls up Pro-Q2 and closes it super fast! ;)
Ha! I saw that too and laughed my ass off
hahahaha
I'm sorry to ask, but what is so funny about this Plugin? What is it known for?
@@JP-zq8yv Its an outstanding plugin but it's made by Fabfilter not waves. Truth be told, Alan Meyerson is arguably the finest film mixer in the game today. He doesn't use waves very often.
@@HollywoodVirtualAudio Thanks a lot!
This is great video. I wished they had left the questions to to ned instead of interrupting Alan. Thank you Mr Meyerson and waves :)
Awesome video! Thank you so much! Small question, how do you use kramer tape stereo plugin on a surround channel and still affect all the channel? Thanks a lot!
I see Alan using certain plugins on tracks that I have found to not work on all Channels on say a quad or 5.1 buss. Puightech eq only effects stereo Channels for example.
Sr Alen it s the best... Bravo Alen!
Thank's for sharing your knowledge :)
Does anyone know which choir library he used? Pretty amazing masterclass!
awesome. great value!!
Great tips as usual... I was wondering are these sessions normally recorded at 96Khz or higher ?
this is so excellent
This is gold
WOW THANKS FOR THIS GOLD CONTENT I LEARNED SOOOOOOOO MUCH
Invaluable!!
Thank you very much.
Great Video. Thanks.
Can Anyone explain the three aux's ( Wides , Sides , Heights ) next to 5.1 Lng P1 Aux ii where is the signal com's from and going where ?? Pleas .
Awesome stuff
Do most plugins when inserted on quad or surround buss switch over to that format?
Great lesson
PLEASE DO AN ALAN MEYERSON ARTIST SERIES PLUGIN COLLECTION!!!!!!!!!
Great Masterclass! Thanks! :)
THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"We put... We? ... Me..."
Nah! Too late! We spotted you. Don't bite anyone's head off. Amazing video
Anyone know why he is using the mono version of the Kramer master tape instead of stereo? Or how he is inserting that on a group channel that is stereo . Wouldn’t it just make it mono or is he using 2 of them?
Andrew Goodwin | Composer
I want a multi mono instance so the delays are independent
Alan Meyerson thanks! really appreciate the class btw thank you. I just need to figure out how to route this in Cubase Pro
My eyes were immediately drawn to the Coffee Cup. I had an accident once and it haunts me ever since.
Minute 1.39 "I just had a joint this long" (hands widely spread)
Minute 3.05 "Actually I had two"
LOL
what headset mics are you using?
My hero 🤘
Owesome Masterclass!! Thanks a lot!!
Fascinating.
Golden
This session needs more tracks. 🧐
I spy with my little eye an original Mark Mothersbaugh on the wall! So cool!
I love it
21:00 Renaissance AXX "bringing up great frequencies"? without even compressing? I think it's just about brining up volume...🧐
Epic!