Could it be the fact that they are making huge claims that are outside human experience ? Reversal of death ? Life after Death ? Miracles miracles miracles ? If I claimed to have a pet dragon in my backyard nobody is going to take me seriously, why do Christians assume they don't need to prove all these magical claims ?
Hi @@LukeVidler ! Interesting question. Let’s consider your dragon story. You’re right. We probably won’t believe that you have a dragon in your backyard. Unless of course, you can produce multiple eyewitnesses to corroborate your claim. Especially if your eyewitnesses maintain their stories and refuse to recant, even when faced with a painful death. I’m guessing you can’t produce such eyewitnesses for your dragon, but Jesus did for his life, ministry, death, and resurrection. There are other types of evidence also. In the end, the choice is yours. Follow Jesus or follow Baal.
@@iamdunat0s795 By Eyewitnesses do you mean the author of Mark? He would be the closest thing to an eyewitness, he was copied by Matthew and Luke and John copied all three. But Mark doesn't make this claim, and the oldest version we have of the book of Mark has no resurrection. I don't know why Christians lie about so many things in the age of wikipedia but good luck with it. Google historicity of the gospels and you will get a dose of reality.
@Aaron W. C. Paine starts with the assumption miracles cannot happen. With that underlying belief it is impossible to to have an open mind and logically consider the evidence fully.
@Aaron W. C. If you have done any research on it, it the most accurately preserved historical document ever by a long shot. If the God of the Bible is true, would you believe in him?
@@Revscooter65 Tell that guy to contact me since I have been miraculously healed from an S.T.D. that I never told anyone I had until years after I was healed. ;)
Thank you Alisa for your amazing ministry! I will share this to a sister in my church that is having some doubt. I know I needed this reminder of the gospel & the historical roots. Very well put! Especially the resurrection, that is main point that our faith in God is true. God bless you
It's really easy; the core of Christianity is that Jesus willingly died to pay the price for humanity's combined sin. This gift is not forced on anyone. One has to accept it and live a life showing one follows Jesus.
That was an interesting analogy of your grandma's peach cobbler recipe. That works. It's a good way to explain the distance of time regarding the sharing of truths.
I recently said at my church how the Apostle Paul “preached Christ crucified” (1 Corinthians 1.17, 1.23, 2.2). One of the elders replied “We can’t do that, people won’t like it, it will put people off).
This trend is troublesome to me. From my point of view, the gospel is meant to be PROCLAIMED, not MARKETED. I well remember a main point of a marketing class I once took. Marketing starts with obsessed simple, basic question; “What do people want?” When it comes to the gospel, that seems to be a bad place to start.
@@m3pilot86 "Wants vs Needs", we could spend hours chatting about that one! I would recommend Googling "Wants vs Needs Biblical". An OpenBible.info site popped up with 13 verses, including "Give us this day our daily bread" Matthew 6:11, from The Lords Prayer. Alisa's video was posted during the COVID-19 Pandemic. In my opinion Wants Vs Needs have collided, or at least been been more sharply focused. As I type this needs such food and shelter are all over the evening news. Long lines at Food Banks, and not being able to pay the Rent are heartbreakingly real issues. Jesus' observed that the people listening to me are hungry. He fed thousands from a few loafs and fishes, with Leftovers no less! Marketing was not the issue. Hunger, a real human Need was, and God provided. God provided! We should do no less.
Alisa, I like the way you break things down and make them simple. However, Paul did not get his Gospel (1 Corinthians 15:3ff) from others. It was not handed down to him as a creed. Rather, he received it directly from the Ascended Christ (Galatians 1:11-12).
Amen. So true. Paul spent about three years with God in the desert of Arabia getting his mind straightened out from a theological point of view. No creed.
One and the same though, right? Or are you referring to salvation being through the Jews first, then through repentance and water, and then through simple belief? Because I understand the dispensations, and the differences in coming to faith, however I do believe that the same Gospel overall, is the same. Can you clarify for me? Thank you, I know this is really old😅
This is SO HELPFUL. I’ve been a believer for 4 decades. For the last several years I’ve been asking the question, “What does authentic Christianity look like?” It seems that I’m getting pointed in the right direction.
What do I do with the ideas that were pervasive before the 1st century? In 332 BC, Persia (Iranians) conquered Judea and Zoroastrianism was the main Persian state religion of the time. When Persia conquered the Jews and hauled them off into slavery or into exile into other Persian cities, the Jews borrowed a lot of the ideas of the Persians and added them to their religion. These are attributes of Judaism that did not exist before the exile...you won't find them in the OT writings that were written before the Persian conquest but afterwards you start to see it all throughout. A good god vs. an evil god (light vs. dark) The world will end, and God's justice realized A river of fire sent by God will flow over the universe burning everything up A new, better world will be created in its place All the good people will be resurrected by God to live in that new world happily ever after Before the Persian conquest Satan was the right-hand man of God doing the will of God, he wasn't an adversary in the sense of an enemy of god. After that, 2nd Temple Judaism started to acquire this idea of Satan as a rebel who took a legion of angels that rebelled against God and was cast out of Heaven and now is responsible for all evil and all death in the world is this big struggle between the good god (God) and the evil god (Satan). Christians picked this concept up but it came from Iran. The idea that the world will end was not a part of Judaism before this conquest. The idea that God's justice would be realized in one big apocalyptic cataclysm was a Zoroastrian idea that came from Persia. The Jews liked that idea and they adopted it and turned everything around so that it would be the Persians that God would melt and not the other way around. The great apocalyptic burning with a new world is a Zoroastrian idea and wasn't an original Jewish belief. An eternal paradise was not a part of Judaism (you died and basically stayed dead), you were like a vague spirit in the earth. If you look at the Talmud, one of the requirements of being a Jew is affirming that you'll be resurrected when everyone else is explicitly declared a heretic. Judeo-Christianity is from Iran. This is all man-made religion, this is not a God who thought of all this stuff at the origin point of Judaism. When God is communicating with Abraham he doesn't say, Oh by the way, the world is going to end at a certain time, I'm gonna resurrect everybody, I'm gonna burn everything , and there's this awful guy named Satan and you need to watch out for him. All that stuff gets added later and it's from a human-created religion of Zoroastrianism. This is historical evidence that shows that Judaism is not a God-oriented of God-originated religion--it's just another cobbled together man-made thing.
Thank you 4 your clear words and orientation. Please consider investigating also in St. John's gospel, chapter 6. And how it was understood and celebrated in the first centuries among christians. The deepest and most beautiful mistery after the most Holy Trinity.
The BEST way is to study the OT paying attention to the books that Jesus Quoted, namely Deuteronomy, Isaiah and the Psalms. Knowing Jewish language and culture namely the culture of the second temple Jews helps. Remember also the Bible was not written in English. There is a substantial amount of meaning that is lost in the translation between the Hebrew, Aramaic and Greek and English. Knowing the history of the early church fathers, Polycarp, Ireneus and others help also. Then you study the Creeds. That way you get the full back story on what and why the Creeds read the way they do.
I wish we get this teaching in our churches,Thank Alissa for everything you do to reveal the truth of God’s word,Bless you and praying for you to continue what you’re doing for God’s glory🙌🏼🙏
9:40 Rule of Faith 1) Monotheism 2) OT Prophets are Inspired 3) Jesus is son of God 4) Jesus is creator, god in flesh 5) Jesus was physical crucified 6) Jesus was bodily raised 7) Jesus is coming back.
This was a great reminder of what our faith is rooted in. What is so great as you pointed out is what Paul said that this was the most important. I have read this chapter many times and ever really focused on how important this was to the early church. Thankyou
I never said it was anything but one of the earliest historical documents of beginning Christianity - much earlier than Eusebius' History of the Church.
Sending admirations and love in Christ, Alisa. 😊🌹 Defending the truth is, probably, the most honourable way of life today. Because, even when we live to defend the poor and needy, if there is no truth left to guide them, they still will be lost. May Lord bless your work and reach many hearts by it! ❤️
إِذَا السَّمَاءُ انفَطَرَتْ When the sky breaks apart 2 وَإِذَا الْكَوَاكِبُ انتَثَرَتْ And when the stars fall, scattering, 3 وَإِذَا الْبِحَارُ فُجِّرَتْ And when the seas are erupted 4 وَإِذَا الْقُبُورُ بُعْثِرَتْ And when the [contents of] graves are scattered, 5 عَلِمَتْ نَفْسٌ مَّا قَدَّمَتْ وَأَخَّرَتْ A soul will [then] know what it has put forth and kept back. 6 يَا أَيُّهَا الْإِنسَانُ مَا غَرَّكَ بِرَبِّكَ الْكَرِيمِ O mankind, what has deceived you concerning your Lord, the Generous, 7 الَّذِي خَلَقَكَ فَسَوَّاكَ فَعَدَلَكَ Who created you, proportioned you, and balanced you? 8 فِي أَيِّ صُورَةٍ مَّا شَاءَ رَكَّبَكَ In whatever form He willed has He assembled you. 9 كَلَّا بَلْ تُكَذِّبُونَ بِالدِّينِ No! But you deny the Recompense. 10 وَإِنَّ عَلَيْكُمْ لَحَافِظِينَ And indeed, [appointed] over you are keepers, 11 كِرَامًا كَاتِبِينَ Noble and recording; 12 يَعْلَمُونَ مَا تَفْعَلُونَ They know whatever you do. 13 إِنَّ الْأَبْرَارَ لَفِي نَعِيمٍ Indeed, the righteous will be in pleasure, 14 وَإِنَّ الْفُجَّارَ لَفِي جَحِيمٍ And indeed, the wicked will be in Hellfire. 15 يَصْلَوْنَهَا يَوْمَ الدِّينِ They will [enter to] burn therein on the Day of Recompense, 16 وَمَا هُمْ عَنْهَا بِغَائِبِينَ And never therefrom will they be absent. 17 وَمَا أَدْرَاكَ مَا يَوْمُ الدِّينِ And what can make you know what is the Day of Recompense? 18 ثُمَّ مَا أَدْرَاكَ مَا يَوْمُ الدِّينِ Then, what can make you know what is the Day of Recompense? 19 يَوْمَ لَا تَمْلِكُ نَفْسٌ لِّنَفْسٍ شَيْئًا ۖ وَالْأَمْرُ يَوْمَئِذٍ لِّلَّهِ It is the Day when a soul will not possess for another soul [power to do] a thing; and the command, that Day, is [entirely] with Allah.
Hi Alisa. I stumbled upon you on YT only 3 or 4 weeks ago and am quite happy that I did. I just watched American Gospel: Christ Crucified and found it equally amazing and jolting. I would like to research 1st and 2nd century Christianity. Is there a particular book or resource that you can recommend?
Hi Robena, you might consider reading the "primary source" letters by the early Apostolic Church Fathers. These are the actual letters as they were written! If you get a book about them, you can be steered way off course toward one theology or the other. You can make your own mind up then as to what they are saying.( Ignatius of Antioch; Clement of Rome; Polycarp of Smyrna.) Ignatius of Antioch. Polycarp of Smyrna . Clement of rome
Robena Billington May I suggest two very readable books? (1) The Untold Story of the New Testament Church by Frank Viola, and (2) Revolution, the Story of The Early Church by Gene Edwards. Enjoy..
While the intention is good, I fear that giving Christianity two different designations will legitimize the wrong one. It's good for educating and differentiating, but I would probably prefer the more biblical "false teaching" or "another gospel", vs. "sound doctrine".
Historical Christianity took on a persecutory character as a result of the sacrificial reading of the Passion and Redemption. It represents two millennia of lost opportunity.
Judaism (Matthew 5:43; Matthew 22:37-39 = Deuteronomy 6:5; Leviticus 19:18) is not Christianity (Matthew 5:44; John 13:34) - Hebrews 7:11-12; Hebrews 8; 2 Corinthians 3. He who has ears to hear, let him hear!
Alisa (Girard) Childers, is a former member of the contemporary Christian music group, Zoegirl. It is now December 7, 2020. The World is struggling with a COVID-19 Pandemic. Hope is building that Vaccines can stem the tide of sickness and death. Alisa, like many other Faithfull Christians reminds us that out Father in Heaven is still with us! Alisa Childers has posted many Podcasts & Videos. Many, such as this one are in my opinion, worthy of being part of a Christian Bible Study. Less than 15 minutes long, which leaves lots of time for discussion. Highly recommend checking out her Podcasts & Videos about "Apologetics", which are about "defending the Christian Faith". (Nothing to do with 'apologizing!')
Most Protestant Christians follow the pagan roots of the papacy who changed the 10 Commandments of Exodus 20... The early Christians kept the Commandments of God and the testimony of Jesus Christ. God spoke and wrote The Ten Commandments at Mount Sinai... God stated "I do not change what has come out of my lips"...
A knowledge of history and what-came-before, is good. Lets go one step further. Have you heard of this? That Christianity was considerably DIFFERENT "before Augustine". Wasn't it Augustine who taught "original Sin"? And he likely got from "Ambrose". But what about before that? Another thing: when someone is ignored and not-talked-about, I can't help wondering why. The EASY answer that most people will likely say is: "because they preached garbage". But I can't help wondering if it might be that that person made some points that are very hard to refute...and so....we just sweep it under the rug and dont talk about it. Example: ORIGEN was said to be a VERY learned man! Yet, how many christians have ever heard his name? Much less anything he believed. I am not saying he is right in everything. I need to read him myself. But the thing is: I DON"T hear him disproven. Just not-talked-about. And what about"Pelagius"? and what was "the Didache"? Why don't we have "the Book of Jasher"? Christianity seems to leave LOTS of these things unaddressed. And because they do, more people fall away.Apologists can get to work on tying up more loose ends, if they can. But do be honest.
I am curious if you detect your own reading into, or on top of, what Paul writes in 1 Cor. 15 there at 07:05 - 07:30, from a much narrower and quite different doctrine laid down centuries later, particularly in the Reformation? Paul states a connection between Christ being raised and whether Christians are still in their sins. You state that the connection is to the doctrine of the atonement, which is the belief that Christ took upon Himself all of the sins and penalty due to us _in His death_ -- that this is what He accomplished in His death. So why, then, are Christians still in their sins without the resurrection if they were paid for by His death? Jude 3-4 is extremely important, as are the traditions of the Church in early creeds and hymns, etc. (2 Thess. 2:15, others), but historic Christianity has much to say about most significant Christian issues and many of the traditions have been silenced because, frankly, we won't endure them. We are back in the situation of the last verse of Judges, we are offering the same refusal to the Lord's pleading in Jeremiah 6:16ff as the people responded to Him with there, and it is interesting to look back at the regrets that someone like John Wesley expressed towards the end of his ministry about what changed just over his time, what he regretted, and wished he would have done differently. I would argue that virtually all churches today are ahistorical and very much into "progressive" Christianity. In fact, the progression has gone on unabated in that my great-grandparents' conservative Protestant-Evangelical doctrines and practices have already changed significantly in less than 150 years' time. "Orthodoxy" as the term is often bandied about now, even by Mormons, is meaningless without being clearly defined.
"If Christ has not been raised, then your faith is futile"...resurrecting Christ in one's consciousness; "raising" one's consciousness. It's the necessary next step. Biblically, it's made to work on both literal and figurative levels.
I ma orthodox christian from eastern Europe and all christians are my brothers and sisters , but you in America and in all protestant world got real problem specialy today , you have no liturgy and eucharist , you got "lessons about Jesus" , and early christans are definetly not like that. Hebrews 13-10,11,15 All early church fathers know about eucharist because they talk about Jesus like he is "our passover" , so all early christians before NT are take eucharist and after of course for next 2000 years. Please dear lady read all church fathers(not just the earliest ones) in original translations not interpretions and quotes from protestant theologians. God bless you.
"Progressive Christianity" has been inside the church for some many years that so many are deceived to believe that they are following the traditional/historical Christianity. Christians are followers of Christ! What did Jesus Do or Preach? If you believe a doctrine that is contrary to what Jesus did, or even what his apostles preached that directly knew and walked with Christ, you have questions to ask about your beliefs.
The disciples were ready to die for creeds, ideas. That was because they came from a culture that believed that sacrifice is how we get closer to God. Jesus came to change that idea. He told us that the way to get closer to God was to change our minds, metanoia. He taught that we needed to not follow the ideas of the world but God's ideas and forgiveness and repentance brings us back in touch with God instead of the world. Matt 12.7 If you had known what these words mean, “I desire mercy, not sacrifice,” you would not have condemned the innocent.
Good work, sister in Christ Alisa! The Christian faith is historical or it is nothing. There was a man Jesus of Nazareth, who was in fact God in the form of human flesh, who was in fact born from a virgin woman Mary in the place of David's birth, Bethlehem, who was in fact and still is the foretold Messiah of Israel, who lived a perfect life of obedience to God the Father, suffered a death on a Roman cross as a sin sacrifice for all mankind, was raised bodily on the third day, appeared to many, ascended back to heaven, where he is seated at the right hand of the Father, who sent us the Holy Spirit from the Father in the name of the Son, who lives in us who believe by his Spirit, and who will come again to establish righteousness forever.
The trouble is historic Christianity is not well defined. One scholar picked out 7 points. Other scholars would disagree with him. Progressive scholars do argue that many of their ideas go way back. Plus they point out that the church was not infallible even in the second century. Catholic scholars would raise the opposite objection. They would say the 7 are carefully chosen to line up with protestant beliefs. That conservative protestants actually act like liberals and ignore the early Christian consensus on sacraments and the role of bishops and Mary and so on. That is they are picking and choosing doctrines just in a different way.
Those who were given spiritual rebirth by God were also given the gift of saving faith which leads them to accept God's word as truth because they won't be able to understand their faith without the gospel. They don't choose for or against the gospel because God made the choice for them when he chose them for salvation by grace through faith.
Philosophy Junkies I wasn’t either, when as a Protestant I investigated it in order to debunk it 18 months ago. My debunking didn’t go so well, and now I’m Orthodox. 😉
@@mrsbajjerblithe9047 i went through a similar journey about a decade ago. Either you're remain where you are or leave Christianity entirely. Good luck either way. If you look up my TH-cam name on Facebook and dig around you should be able to find me.
I find it very interesting that the concept of eternal conscious torment in a fiery hell was not even mentioned in the early creeds of the first few centuries. Hmmm?
Not all of the apostolic teaching are found in the scriptures. Some of the apostolic teaching was received orally and the Christians were bound by the oral teachings as much as the scriptures. I love how the 2nd century Church father Irenaeaus of Lyons stated it in 180AD. "It is incumbent to obey the presbyters who are in the Church-those who, as I have shown, possess the succession from the apostles; those who, together with the succession of the episcopate, have received the infallible charism of truth, according to the good pleasure of the Father. But [it is also incumbent] to hold in suspicion others who depart from the primitive succession, and assemble themselves together in any place whatsoever, either as heretics of perverse minds, or as schismatics puffed up and self-pleasing, or again as hypocrites, acting thus for the sake of lucre and vainglory. For all these have fallen from the truth". - Ireneaus of Lyons, Against Heresies, 4:26:2, 180 AD
You really need to read Margaret Barkers work on the restoration of the First Temple. World class scholar that brings new life to the mission of Yeshua
7:05 - If Jesus' death is the essential point of Christianity for the purpose of atonement, why is the resurrection so important? What I mean is, wouldn't have atonement been achieved had Jesus remained dead? What is the role of resurrection in atonement?
Atonement indicates something is owed, and the creator of everything doesn't owe anything to anyone. Jesus conquers death, by death. Death is the consequence of sin, therefore by His resurrection we have the promise through Christ that death, or the "wages of sin", has been conquered and no longer enslaves us.. And because we are weak in the flesh, we receive the holy spirit to assist us in dealing with the sin around us. The resurrection brought with it, Hope eternal. Amen.
@@TheBnaja Why does God accept repentance without sacrifices if the thing owed is death itself? There are many verses in the Tanakh that explicit mention this, but take a look at Hosea 14:2 for starters.
@@sonofblessed I am by no means a theologian or scholar, so please forgive me if my response misses the mark. The way I understand the Bible (limited by my own intellect and not that which is revealed by the Holy spirit) is that it all points to Jesus. Who he is, what he did, what he will do. Death entered the world through sin. The law was set forth to know what sin is. Sacrifice became the physical representation of repentance, but sin continued. Even when we wish to do what is holy we still do what is not. St. Paul says the same thing, so I know the struggle is real Jesus fulfilled the law and there is no longer a need for sacrificial offering on our part. However, my heart xan grow cold, so I am reminded that Psalm 51:17 says that a sacrifice pleasing to God is a broken spirit. A broken and contrite heart God will not despise. Contrition is true repentance. 🙏 Again, this is My understanding of why atonement is incorrect. The love of God is a mystery. The redemption of creation through his son Jesus, is an even greater mystery, but I know it is real and it offers hope in the darkest of times.
@@TheBnaja The Jews were aware that a broken and contrite heart, God will not despise long before Christians associated it with Jesus. Judaism is all about this, but Christians prefer not to understand because it undermines Jesus. They think that the Law is legalistic and rigid, but they don't understand (and haven't asked us) what we really think of it and how it as an expression of God's love versus something to be overcome. Too bad.
Richard Mackenzie hello there I hope you are doing well this evening. I never said Paul didn’t say it was not biblical what I said was that’s another example. Paul was writing many letters that he had no idea would be considered scripture. Those letters were not compiled in what we call the Bible until some 400 years later. So what he is teaching is yes of course Jewish scripture along with the traditions that he was taught. Not once in what we now know as the Bible can I find anywhere that scripture alone is even taught. It’s actually quite the contrary. Peace mm
The Catholic Church is the church Jesus founded. Authority to teach belongs there. If there are contradictory messages within Christian denominations check what the Catholic Church teaches to hear the truth
12:08 "What Christianity was according to Jesus?"...it wasn't anything. Jesus was Jewish. Jesus came here to end the focus on religion and us vs. them. Jesus gave us two rules; Love God and Love your Neighbour, we didn't like that message and killed him...that's the simple truth.
I usually don't listen to you for reasons that escape me, but this was an excellent and timely video. It was well documented, well researched, and well-presented. For my apologetic channel this is the kind of stuff I want to be putting up. Keep me in prayer. I find I need to learn discipline to get this task done. Yet the Lord is using me to help our church youth group and even opened a door to speak to a youth group in Pakistan via Skype.
Yes, actually according to what is written in jude is extremely important, a statement that clearly tells us, that we are free , as Jesus died, so that our sins are covered. And mostly we can live free from persecution. And the biggest problem, for people is that they are still blind, and the preacher who blindly, condemn them. I know this for a fact, as I was part of that negative nature, of doctrine. People are ment to be free and prosperous. It is written, God said, go forth and multiply and prosper. The problem is, you still can't except that the the aliens created Adam and Eve. The aliens are Male and female just like people are. Their children are the angels. Just as our physical body is from Adam and Eve, and all the people are, their children. That's written in Mathew chapter 23v 8and 9, 10.
For me it's taking the Bible at face value. The message was simply the resurrection from my own death. Later on came other people's history, philosophy, politics and science. That never convinced me nor removed the basic message.
Thanks and hats off to you for findings from the scriptures with the right illustration. I am blessed. God bless you and make you a channel of blessing to the Gospel believers Amen.
So true I as well agree that we should get back to the roots of the true teaching of the historical Christianity. This is why I would love to know how you found all this out and if there is any online courses that you know of for me to take to learn and grow in apologetics and to the historical Christianity so I can do my part and defend the true church teachings as you are. Thank you ever so much your a gem!
Absolutely wrong. The catholic church wasn't around in the first century, and the Apostle Peter wasn't retroactively "the first 'pope' ". The catholic church was a creation of Rome and Constantine in 352 AD (therefore the fourth century) and it is full of paganism, idolatry and heresy. Read what Jesus says to the church in Thyatira (the name which means "continual sacrifice") in Revelation 2. Also see Revelation 17 and 18 for the eventual fate of Rome (Babylon). Flee the idolatry of catholicism.
@@chrishart2228 what was the main or ancient Christian denomination in Rome and other places what Paul visited during ministry? Are they Baptists church?
@@louellecaldino506 You're not very clever with that question, Caldino. Stupid question. They certainly weren't catholic, a fraud mother-son cult that was formed in the fourth century. Nice try.
They posture all day with falsehoods and in their blind ignorance they deny the obvious truth that Christianity is Catholicism and Catholicism is Christianity. They lack humility to accept a Church so they dance around the truth and make up their own beliefs instead. Let's hope and pray they open their eyes and not perish like their miserable protestant forefathers.
@@chrishart2228 you're also not very clever with your answer Hart, no where in history that those places are not Catholic, even in Antioch where we see the word Christians were used is even distinguish themselves as Catholic based on letter by saint Ignatius on his way to Rome for martyrdom
Thank you for this excellent, informative, and insightful explanation of historic Christianity! May the Lord continue to expand your influence for His glory and the good of others!
One small mistake you made. You said that Paul lists the 500 people who saw the resurrected Jesus. That is incorrect. To list them he would need to state their names. Instead he mentions that 500 people saw him. I agree with you that the words of those who propound liberal theology matter so that is why you yourself have to be careful with your wording about these things.
To die for our sins is not the same as taking our sins upon himself to pay for them. Sins are ACTIONS (mental or physical) that take place at a point in time. As such, these actions cannot be transferred to another person or another time. The payment analogy is not used in the Bible when properly understood. God FORGIVES, which is the opposite of payment. You forgive precisely because a debt has NOT been paid, and if you pay a debt it is not forgiven, but paid. Jesus endured our sin, yet we erroneously thought he was stricken and smitten of God. But it was our sin, our actions that he endured (1 Peter 2:18-25 read in context). The shock that we would do this to the very Son of God should horrify us and turn us from sin and seek to be reconciled to God. God was in Christ reconciling the world to Himself (2 Cor. 5:18-21), not getting paid, which then voids us being reconciled to Him. If He got paid then He is the one who is reconciled to us, which is backwards.
The subject of redemption is in the bible. Redeem means to buy or purchase. And scripture tells us Christians, specifically in 1 Peter 1 "... Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received by tradition from your fathers; But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot:..."
@@lucille7069 Hi. That is a typical/standard response I get, but I recommend you do a word study as to how "redeem" is used in the Bible. You will find that it often means "to free". There is a Greek word for purchase, but redeem is used instead, and is often metaphorically. For example, "redeeming the time" - can you literally purchase time? No. You can free up some time by changing your schedule or rearranging priorities, but you cannot buy time. God also redeemed/freed His people out of Egypt through Moses, but nobody received any payment. The verse you mentioned is another example. "you were not redeemed with perishable things like silver or gold from your futile way of life inherited from your forefathers, 19 but with precious blood, as of a lamb..." The blood of Jesus was not given to anyone as a literal payment. Nobody received this direct payment. The blood covenant of Jesus, if we choose to accept it, frees us from the "futile way of life inherited from your forefathers." It redeems us, frees us, from a previous way of living. It also frees us TO something: "...You were slain, And have redeemed us to God by Your blood..." Rev. 5:9. Jesus' blood frees us from our prior way of living, into a new way of living. The Hebraic/Jewish language is the background of the Bible, even where it is in Greek, and it uses metaphors far more than we are used to, and this can unintentionally lead to sincere misunderstandings.
I would love to know where you learned all this stuff as I want to learn it more in detail. Is there an online school or course that you took to learn all this?
Sadly historic Christianity was eventually deemed as a heresy by subsequent "church fathers", because they didn't see Jesus as divine. It was in stark opposition to what Paul preached and labeled him a false apostle. Ironically, it was the disciples of Jesus that actually studied under Jesus that were on the wrong side of history as Paul won out. Historic Christians chose to be poor, stuck to a vegetarian diet and held to the Torah (they circumcised, observed the Sabbath, ate kosher, followed the law that Jesus himself said he didn't come to destroy but fulfill). I'm so confused when people lump them and Paul together...who do people think he's referring to in his letters? That's why we have people who say you're saved by faith alone but others say you have to have works...it's right there in the bible, look at what Paul wrote versus what is in the book of James (the brother of Jesus that took over the ministry after the ascension). Paul had a mob attack James and assaulted. Paul and Peter argued. Paul was a gentile to the gentile even though Jesus flat out said don't go the way of the gentile. If it wasn't for Paul making the executive decision to abandon the law Jesus said he came to fulfill, Christianity would have gone nowhere. Historic Christianity was historically Jewish.
@@shooterdownunder nope, technically Southern Baptist, but I just found out about Hebrews roots last week. I just did a lot of research is all. But I mean...Jesus and his disciples were Jewish, so I mean...makes sense.
@@HankFidel you do know that what Paul was combating in his letters was the errors of the oral law teachings that were held by the Pharisees that were beginning to sneak into the church. Also what James was discussing in context of his letter wasn't works plus, it was discussing a profession of faith as opposed to actual biblical faith. Much like if your partner says that they love you and then cheats on you, if they truly loved you would they have done it and that's what James was getting at. If you truly have faith your works would prove it.
The Cross and the resurrection have to be defended in every generation.
Yes-so critical. Even St Paul faced those who scoffed at the ressurection.
Primarily, the cross and the resurrection have to be told or witnessed in every generation.
Could it be the fact that they are making huge claims that are outside human experience ? Reversal of death ? Life after Death ? Miracles miracles miracles ? If I claimed to have a pet dragon in my backyard nobody is going to take me seriously, why do Christians assume they don't need to prove all these magical claims ?
Hi @@LukeVidler ! Interesting question. Let’s consider your dragon story. You’re right. We probably won’t believe that you have a dragon in your backyard. Unless of course, you can produce multiple eyewitnesses to corroborate your claim. Especially if your eyewitnesses maintain their stories and refuse to recant, even when faced with a painful death. I’m guessing you can’t produce such eyewitnesses for your dragon, but Jesus did for his life, ministry, death, and resurrection. There are other types of evidence also. In the end, the choice is yours. Follow Jesus or follow Baal.
@@iamdunat0s795 By Eyewitnesses do you mean the author of Mark? He would be the closest thing to an eyewitness, he was copied by Matthew and Luke and John copied all three. But Mark doesn't make this claim, and the oldest version we have of the book of Mark has no resurrection. I don't know why Christians lie about so many things in the age of wikipedia but good luck with it. Google historicity of the gospels and you will get a dose of reality.
Do you have a theology degree? You are knowledgeable and clear speaking. As a pastor, I thank you for your teachings
@Aaron W. C. Jesus proved it through the resurrection. Please read it.
@Aaron W. C. Paine starts with the assumption miracles cannot happen. With that underlying belief it is impossible to to have an open mind and logically consider the evidence fully.
@UCbjqePgMIH8uG5eDfDpaW7A Reason will lead you to the God of the Bible if you are serious about searching out the truth.
@Aaron W. C. If you have done any research on it, it the most accurately preserved historical document ever by a long shot. If the God of the Bible is true, would you believe in him?
@@Revscooter65 Tell that guy to contact me since I have been miraculously healed from an S.T.D. that I never told anyone I had until years after I was healed. ;)
min 4:50 Oral tradition?!?! That sounds like Sacred Tradition! Beautiful!!! Catholic Church shines from the very beginning!
Amen! The gates of hell shall not prevail against her.
And the Orthodox Church
Excellent sister. As it has always happened, the truth of the Gospel will always win out in the end.
Thank you Alisa for your amazing ministry! I will share this to a sister in my church that is having some doubt. I know I needed this reminder of the gospel & the historical roots. Very well put! Especially the resurrection, that is main point that our faith in God is true. God bless you
It's really easy; the core of Christianity is that Jesus willingly died to pay the price for humanity's combined sin. This gift is not forced on anyone. One has to accept it and live a life showing one follows Jesus.
That was an interesting analogy of your grandma's peach cobbler recipe. That works. It's a good way to explain the distance of time regarding the sharing of truths.
I recently said at my church how the Apostle Paul “preached Christ crucified” (1 Corinthians 1.17, 1.23, 2.2). One of the elders replied “We can’t do that, people won’t like it, it will put people off).
This trend is troublesome to me. From my point of view, the gospel is meant to be PROCLAIMED, not MARKETED.
I well remember a main point of a marketing class I once took. Marketing starts with obsessed simple, basic question; “What do people want?” When it comes to the gospel, that seems to be a bad place to start.
@@m3pilot86 "Wants vs Needs", we could spend hours chatting about that one! I would recommend Googling "Wants vs Needs Biblical". An OpenBible.info site popped up with 13 verses, including "Give us this day our daily bread" Matthew 6:11, from The Lords Prayer.
Alisa's video was posted during the COVID-19 Pandemic. In my opinion Wants Vs Needs have collided, or at least been been more sharply focused. As I type this needs such food and shelter are all over the evening news. Long lines at Food Banks, and not being able to pay the Rent are heartbreakingly real issues.
Jesus' observed that the people listening to me are hungry. He fed thousands from a few loafs and fishes, with Leftovers no less!
Marketing was not the issue. Hunger, a real human Need was, and God provided.
God provided! We should do no less.
Alisa, I like the way you break things down and make them simple. However, Paul did not get his Gospel (1 Corinthians 15:3ff) from others. It was not handed down to him as a creed. Rather, he received it directly from the Ascended Christ (Galatians 1:11-12).
Amen. So true. Paul spent about three years with God in the desert of Arabia getting his mind straightened out from a theological point of view. No creed.
One and the same though, right? Or are you referring to salvation being through the Jews first, then through repentance and water, and then through simple belief? Because I understand the dispensations, and the differences in coming to faith, however I do believe that the same Gospel overall, is the same. Can you clarify for me? Thank you, I know this is really old😅
Excellent! Thank you Alisa. Praise Adonai!
This is SO HELPFUL. I’ve been a believer for 4 decades. For the last several years I’ve been asking the question, “What does authentic Christianity look like?”
It seems that I’m getting pointed in the right direction.
What do I do with the ideas that were pervasive before the 1st century?
In 332 BC, Persia (Iranians) conquered Judea and Zoroastrianism was the main Persian state religion of the time. When Persia conquered the Jews and hauled them off into slavery or into exile into other Persian cities, the Jews borrowed a lot of the ideas of the Persians and added them to their religion. These are attributes of Judaism that did not exist before the exile...you won't find them in the OT writings that were written before the Persian conquest but afterwards you start to see it all throughout.
A good god vs. an evil god (light vs. dark)
The world will end, and God's justice realized
A river of fire sent by God will flow over the universe burning everything up
A new, better world will be created in its place
All the good people will be resurrected by God to live in that new world happily ever after
Before the Persian conquest Satan was the right-hand man of God doing the will of God, he wasn't an adversary in the sense of an enemy of god. After that, 2nd Temple Judaism started to acquire this idea of Satan as a rebel who took a legion of angels that rebelled against God and was cast out of Heaven and now is responsible for all evil and all death in the world is this big struggle between the good god (God) and the evil god (Satan). Christians picked this concept up but it came from Iran.
The idea that the world will end was not a part of Judaism before this conquest. The idea that God's justice would be realized in one big apocalyptic cataclysm was a Zoroastrian idea that came from Persia. The Jews liked that idea and they adopted it and turned everything around so that it would be the Persians that God would melt and not the other way around.
The great apocalyptic burning with a new world is a Zoroastrian idea and wasn't an original Jewish belief. An eternal paradise was not a part of Judaism (you died and basically stayed dead), you were like a vague spirit in the earth. If you look at the Talmud, one of the requirements of being a Jew is affirming that you'll be resurrected when everyone else is explicitly declared a heretic.
Judeo-Christianity is from Iran. This is all man-made religion, this is not a God who thought of all this stuff at the origin point of Judaism. When God is communicating with Abraham he doesn't say, Oh by the way, the world is going to end at a certain time, I'm gonna resurrect everybody, I'm gonna burn everything , and there's this awful guy named Satan and you need to watch out for him.
All that stuff gets added later and it's from a human-created religion of Zoroastrianism. This is historical evidence that shows that Judaism is not a God-oriented of God-originated religion--it's just another cobbled together man-made thing.
@Cindy Christman How would you account for miraculously answered prayers?
You seem like such a nice person. It's nice to have someone teaching without screaming.
So good!!
Great, appreciative information. I took plenty of notes for food for thought to add to my arsenal of witnessing 👍🏿
Thank you 4 your clear words and orientation. Please consider investigating also in St. John's gospel, chapter 6. And how it was understood and celebrated in the first centuries among christians. The deepest and most beautiful mistery after the most Holy Trinity.
Love your videos! Keep speaking the truth.
The BEST way is to study the OT paying attention to the books that Jesus Quoted, namely Deuteronomy, Isaiah and the Psalms. Knowing Jewish language and culture namely the culture of the second temple Jews helps. Remember also the Bible was not written in English. There is a substantial amount of meaning that is lost in the translation between the Hebrew, Aramaic and Greek and English. Knowing the history of the early church fathers, Polycarp, Ireneus and others help also. Then you study the Creeds. That way you get the full back story on what and why the Creeds read the way they do.
That was excellent Alisa. Ravi would be proud.
You just made me smile. Yeah, Tim, I think he would be (or is)
This did not age well
Why would one want to make Ravi proud, no thanks!
@@jomayo1678 To be fair...this was 7 months ago
@@HankFidel Yep. That comment was before the.... you know.
I wish we get this teaching in our churches,Thank Alissa for everything you do to reveal the truth of God’s word,Bless you and praying for you to continue what you’re doing for God’s glory🙌🏼🙏
Christianity began as a sect within wider Judaism.
Excellent!
Thank you.
9:40 Rule of Faith
1) Monotheism
2) OT Prophets are Inspired
3) Jesus is son of God
4) Jesus is creator, god in flesh
5) Jesus was physical crucified
6) Jesus was bodily raised
7) Jesus is coming back.
The book “sinners in the hands of a loving God” by Brian Zahnd really helped me with my approach to Christianity and Scripture
Thanks, Alisa. Nicely done.
This was a great reminder of what our faith is rooted in. What is so great as you pointed out is what Paul said that this was the most important. I have read this chapter many times and ever really focused on how important this was to the early church. Thankyou
Have you read the Didache, one of the earliest training manuals for Christians?
Tom Coke
The Didache is a member of the Apocryphal literature.
approvedofGod
And?
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As a member of the Apocrypha books, it is not a valid source of information. It's content is spurious.
approvedofGod
The Didache is not part of the deuterocanon.
I never said it was anything but one of the earliest historical documents of beginning Christianity - much earlier than Eusebius' History of the Church.
Fantastic. Thank you, Alisa.
Sending admirations and love in Christ, Alisa. 😊🌹
Defending the truth is, probably, the most honourable way of life today. Because, even when we live to defend the poor and needy, if there is no truth left to guide them, they still will be lost.
May Lord bless your work and reach many hearts by it! ❤️
إِذَا السَّمَاءُ انفَطَرَتْ
When the sky breaks apart
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وَإِذَا الْكَوَاكِبُ انتَثَرَتْ
And when the stars fall, scattering,
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وَإِذَا الْبِحَارُ فُجِّرَتْ
And when the seas are erupted
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وَإِذَا الْقُبُورُ بُعْثِرَتْ
And when the [contents of] graves are scattered,
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عَلِمَتْ نَفْسٌ مَّا قَدَّمَتْ وَأَخَّرَتْ
A soul will [then] know what it has put forth and kept back.
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يَا أَيُّهَا الْإِنسَانُ مَا غَرَّكَ بِرَبِّكَ الْكَرِيمِ
O mankind, what has deceived you concerning your Lord, the Generous,
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الَّذِي خَلَقَكَ فَسَوَّاكَ فَعَدَلَكَ
Who created you, proportioned you, and balanced you?
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فِي أَيِّ صُورَةٍ مَّا شَاءَ رَكَّبَكَ
In whatever form He willed has He assembled you.
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كَلَّا بَلْ تُكَذِّبُونَ بِالدِّينِ
No! But you deny the Recompense.
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وَإِنَّ عَلَيْكُمْ لَحَافِظِينَ
And indeed, [appointed] over you are keepers,
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كِرَامًا كَاتِبِينَ
Noble and recording;
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يَعْلَمُونَ مَا تَفْعَلُونَ
They know whatever you do.
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إِنَّ الْأَبْرَارَ لَفِي نَعِيمٍ
Indeed, the righteous will be in pleasure,
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وَإِنَّ الْفُجَّارَ لَفِي جَحِيمٍ
And indeed, the wicked will be in Hellfire.
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يَصْلَوْنَهَا يَوْمَ الدِّينِ
They will [enter to] burn therein on the Day of Recompense,
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وَمَا هُمْ عَنْهَا بِغَائِبِينَ
And never therefrom will they be absent.
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وَمَا أَدْرَاكَ مَا يَوْمُ الدِّينِ
And what can make you know what is the Day of Recompense?
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ثُمَّ مَا أَدْرَاكَ مَا يَوْمُ الدِّينِ
Then, what can make you know what is the Day of Recompense?
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يَوْمَ لَا تَمْلِكُ نَفْسٌ لِّنَفْسٍ شَيْئًا ۖ وَالْأَمْرُ يَوْمَئِذٍ لِّلَّهِ
It is the Day when a soul will not possess for another soul [power to do] a thing; and the command, that Day, is [entirely] with Allah.
Historic Christianity surely not Protestant in any way. Leaves only one other option for historic Christianity.
You mean Eastern Orthodoxy? 🙂
Wow, Alisa so well presented. Thank you 🙏
Hi Alisa. I stumbled upon you on YT only 3 or 4 weeks ago and am quite happy that I did. I just watched American Gospel: Christ Crucified and found it equally amazing and jolting. I would like to research 1st and 2nd century Christianity. Is there a particular book or resource that you can recommend?
Hi Robena, you might consider reading the "primary source" letters by the early Apostolic Church Fathers. These are the actual letters as they were written! If you get a book about them, you can be steered way off course toward one theology or the other. You can make your own mind up then as to what they are saying.( Ignatius of Antioch; Clement of Rome; Polycarp of Smyrna.)
Ignatius of Antioch.
Polycarp of Smyrna
. Clement of rome
Robena Billington May I suggest two very readable books? (1) The Untold Story of the New Testament Church by Frank Viola, and (2) Revolution, the Story of The Early Church by Gene Edwards. Enjoy..
Suggestion: The book of Acts through Revelation 3 would be a good place to see Biblical, historical Christianity in action.
@@chrishart2228 Yes. I have read the NT many times. I am trying to learn more from post NT through the first several hundred years.
While the intention is good, I fear that giving Christianity two different designations will legitimize the wrong one. It's good for educating and differentiating, but I would probably prefer the more biblical "false teaching" or "another gospel", vs. "sound doctrine".
Historical Christianity took on a persecutory character as a result of the sacrificial reading of the Passion and Redemption. It represents two millennia of lost opportunity.
Solid....
Judaism (Matthew 5:43; Matthew 22:37-39 = Deuteronomy 6:5; Leviticus 19:18) is not Christianity (Matthew 5:44; John 13:34) - Hebrews 7:11-12; Hebrews 8; 2 Corinthians 3. He who has ears to hear, let him hear!
This is excellent. Thank you for making these videos.
Alisa (Girard) Childers, is a former member of the contemporary Christian music group, Zoegirl.
It is now December 7, 2020. The World is struggling with a COVID-19 Pandemic. Hope is building that Vaccines can stem the tide of sickness and death. Alisa, like many other Faithfull Christians reminds us that out Father in Heaven is still with us!
Alisa Childers has posted many Podcasts & Videos. Many, such as this one are in my opinion, worthy of being part of a Christian Bible Study.
Less than 15 minutes long, which leaves lots of time for discussion.
Highly recommend checking out her Podcasts & Videos about "Apologetics", which are about "defending the Christian Faith". (Nothing to do with 'apologizing!')
Most Protestant Christians follow the pagan roots of the papacy who changed the 10 Commandments of Exodus 20... The early Christians kept the Commandments of God and the testimony of Jesus Christ. God spoke and wrote The Ten Commandments at Mount Sinai... God stated "I do not change what has come out of my lips"...
A knowledge of history and what-came-before, is good. Lets go one step further.
Have you heard of this? That Christianity was considerably DIFFERENT "before Augustine". Wasn't it Augustine who taught "original Sin"? And he likely got from "Ambrose". But what about before that?
Another thing: when someone is ignored and not-talked-about, I can't help wondering why. The EASY answer that most people will likely say is: "because they preached garbage". But I can't help wondering if it might be that that person made some points that are very hard to refute...and so....we just sweep it under the rug and dont talk about it.
Example: ORIGEN was said to be a VERY learned man! Yet, how many christians have ever heard his name? Much less anything he believed. I am not saying he is right in everything. I need to read him myself. But the thing is: I DON"T hear him disproven. Just not-talked-about.
And what about"Pelagius"? and what was "the Didache"? Why don't we have "the Book of Jasher"? Christianity seems to leave LOTS of these things unaddressed. And because they do, more people fall away.Apologists can get to work on tying up more loose ends, if they can. But do be honest.
I am curious if you detect your own reading into, or on top of, what Paul writes in 1 Cor. 15 there at 07:05 - 07:30, from a much narrower and quite different doctrine laid down centuries later, particularly in the Reformation? Paul states a connection between Christ being raised and whether Christians are still in their sins. You state that the connection is to the doctrine of the atonement, which is the belief that Christ took upon Himself all of the sins and penalty due to us _in His death_ -- that this is what He accomplished in His death. So why, then, are Christians still in their sins without the resurrection if they were paid for by His death? Jude 3-4 is extremely important, as are the traditions of the Church in early creeds and hymns, etc. (2 Thess. 2:15, others), but historic Christianity has much to say about most significant Christian issues and many of the traditions have been silenced because, frankly, we won't endure them. We are back in the situation of the last verse of Judges, we are offering the same refusal to the Lord's pleading in Jeremiah 6:16ff as the people responded to Him with there, and it is interesting to look back at the regrets that someone like John Wesley expressed towards the end of his ministry about what changed just over his time, what he regretted, and wished he would have done differently. I would argue that virtually all churches today are ahistorical and very much into "progressive" Christianity. In fact, the progression has gone on unabated in that my great-grandparents' conservative Protestant-Evangelical doctrines and practices have already changed significantly in less than 150 years' time. "Orthodoxy" as the term is often bandied about now, even by Mormons, is meaningless without being clearly defined.
Love your work Alisa.
"If Christ has not been raised, then your faith is futile"...resurrecting Christ in one's consciousness; "raising" one's consciousness. It's the necessary next step. Biblically, it's made to work on both literal and figurative levels.
So where is the evidence for your claims?
Thank you for the woman-friendly recipe example 😊
I ma orthodox christian from eastern Europe and all christians are my brothers and sisters , but you in America and in all protestant world got real problem specialy today , you have no liturgy and eucharist , you got "lessons about Jesus" , and early christans are definetly not like that.
Hebrews 13-10,11,15
All early church fathers know about eucharist because they talk about Jesus like he is "our passover" , so all early christians before NT are take eucharist and after of course for next 2000 years.
Please dear lady read all church fathers(not just the earliest ones) in original translations not interpretions and quotes from protestant theologians.
God bless you.
"Progressive Christianity" has been inside the church for some many years that so many are deceived to believe that they are following the traditional/historical Christianity. Christians are followers of Christ! What did Jesus Do or Preach? If you believe a doctrine that is contrary to what Jesus did, or even what his apostles preached that directly knew and walked with Christ, you have questions to ask about your beliefs.
The disciples were ready to die for creeds, ideas. That was because they came from a culture that believed that sacrifice is how we get closer to God. Jesus came to change that idea. He told us that the way to get closer to God was to change our minds, metanoia. He taught that we needed to not follow the ideas of the world but God's ideas and forgiveness and repentance brings us back in touch with God instead of the world. Matt 12.7 If you had known what these words mean, “I desire mercy, not sacrifice,” you would not have condemned the innocent.
Clear, precise and excellent teaching!
Good work, sister in Christ Alisa! The Christian faith is historical or it is nothing. There was a man Jesus of Nazareth, who was in fact God in the form of human flesh, who was in fact born from a virgin woman Mary in the place of David's birth, Bethlehem, who was in fact and still is the foretold Messiah of Israel, who lived a perfect life of obedience to God the Father, suffered a death on a Roman cross as a sin sacrifice for all mankind, was raised bodily on the third day, appeared to many, ascended back to heaven, where he is seated at the right hand of the Father, who sent us the Holy Spirit from the Father in the name of the Son, who lives in us who believe by his Spirit, and who will come again to establish righteousness forever.
The trouble is historic Christianity is not well defined. One scholar picked out 7 points. Other scholars would disagree with him. Progressive scholars do argue that many of their ideas go way back. Plus they point out that the church was not infallible even in the second century. Catholic scholars would raise the opposite objection. They would say the 7 are carefully chosen to line up with protestant beliefs. That conservative protestants actually act like liberals and ignore the early Christian consensus on sacraments and the role of bishops and Mary and so on. That is they are picking and choosing doctrines just in a different way.
Those who were given spiritual rebirth by God were also given the gift of saving faith which leads them to accept God's word as truth because they won't be able to understand their faith without the gospel. They don't choose for or against the gospel because God made the choice for them when he chose them for salvation by grace through faith.
Why yes, I do. It’s called the Orthodox Church.
Eastern Orthodox? They're not ready for that.
Philosophy Junkies I wasn’t either, when as a Protestant I investigated it in order to debunk it 18 months ago. My debunking didn’t go so well, and now I’m Orthodox. 😉
@@mrsbajjerblithe9047 i went through a similar journey about a decade ago. Either you're remain where you are or leave Christianity entirely. Good luck either way. If you look up my TH-cam name on Facebook and dig around you should be able to find me.
Philosophy Junkies Thanks for sharing. It’s a forever decision for me. 🙂
Just followed you on FB. Always open to dialogue. Blessings to you!
Which orthodox? Russian? Greek?
I find it very interesting that the concept of eternal conscious torment in a fiery hell was not even mentioned in the early creeds of the first few centuries. Hmmm?
Thank you so much, very interesting - I learned a lot!
Do you agree that the trinity is not sound doctrine?
I love your videos and blog! Very clear and helpful for me.
Just recently came across your work--so good! Thank you for sharing invaluable knowledge. It is a blessing :)
I can't believe how little this is preached in the churches today.
Not all of the apostolic teaching are found in the scriptures. Some of the apostolic teaching was received orally and the Christians were bound by the oral teachings as much as the scriptures.
I love how the 2nd century Church father Irenaeaus of Lyons stated it in 180AD.
"It is incumbent to obey the presbyters who are in the Church-those who, as I have shown, possess the succession from the apostles; those who, together with the succession of the episcopate, have received the infallible charism of truth, according to the good pleasure of the Father. But [it is also incumbent] to hold in suspicion others who depart from the primitive succession, and assemble themselves together in any place whatsoever, either as heretics of perverse minds, or as schismatics puffed up and self-pleasing, or again as hypocrites, acting thus for the sake of lucre and vainglory. For all these have fallen from the truth".
- Ireneaus of Lyons, Against Heresies, 4:26:2, 180 AD
You really need to read Margaret Barkers work on the restoration of the First Temple. World class scholar that brings new life to the mission of Yeshua
I loved your group zoeygirl growing up. I’m so blessed and happy to you on TH-cam. Instant subscriber.
Excellent discussion of the Faith that was delivered once for all. Thank you, Alisa! May God continue to bless your ministry. 🙏💕
7:05 - If Jesus' death is the essential point of Christianity for the purpose of atonement, why is the resurrection so important? What I mean is, wouldn't have atonement been achieved had Jesus remained dead? What is the role of resurrection in atonement?
Atonement indicates something is owed, and the creator of everything doesn't owe anything to anyone. Jesus conquers death, by death. Death is the consequence of sin, therefore by His resurrection we have the promise through Christ that death, or the "wages of sin", has been conquered and no longer enslaves us..
And because we are weak in the flesh, we receive the holy spirit to assist us in dealing with the sin around us. The resurrection brought with it, Hope eternal. Amen.
@@TheBnaja Why does God accept repentance without sacrifices if the thing owed is death itself? There are many verses in the Tanakh that explicit mention this, but take a look at Hosea 14:2 for starters.
@@sonofblessed
I am by no means a theologian or scholar, so please forgive me if my response misses the mark.
The way I understand the Bible (limited by my own intellect and not that which is revealed by the Holy spirit) is that it all points to Jesus. Who he is, what he did, what he will do. Death entered the world through sin. The law was set forth to know what sin is. Sacrifice became the physical representation of repentance, but sin continued. Even when we wish to do what is holy we still do what is not. St. Paul says the same thing, so I know the struggle is real
Jesus fulfilled the law and there is no longer a need for sacrificial offering on our part. However, my heart xan grow cold, so I am reminded that
Psalm 51:17 says that a sacrifice pleasing to God is a broken spirit. A broken and contrite heart God will not despise.
Contrition is true repentance. 🙏
Again, this is My understanding of why atonement is incorrect. The love of God is a mystery. The redemption of creation through his son Jesus, is an even greater mystery, but I know it is real and it offers hope in the darkest of times.
@@TheBnaja The Jews were aware that a broken and contrite heart, God will not despise long before Christians associated it with Jesus. Judaism is all about this, but Christians prefer not to understand because it undermines Jesus. They think that the Law is legalistic and rigid, but they don't understand (and haven't asked us) what we really think of it and how it as an expression of God's love versus something to be overcome. Too bad.
Paul once again shows us an example of why “Sola Sriptura” is not biblical. Thank you Paul :)
Please defend this claim with evidence...
Jesus said man shall not live by bread alone but by every word that precedes from the mouth of God.
Thats not evidence. Where did St Paul state sola scripture is not biblical?
Richard Mackenzie He doesn’t have any. He believes in sola ecclesia
Richard Mackenzie hello there I hope you are doing well this evening. I never said Paul didn’t say it was not biblical what I said was that’s another example. Paul was writing many letters that he had no idea would be considered scripture. Those letters were not compiled in what we call the Bible until some 400 years later. So what he is teaching is yes of course Jewish scripture along with the traditions that he was taught. Not once in what we now know as the Bible can I find anywhere that scripture alone is even taught. It’s actually quite the contrary. Peace mm
Love this, Amen Sister
Amen to all that!
Bullet points please.
How did the apostles and the first Christians define Christianity? What does the historic record show?
The Catholic Church is the church Jesus founded. Authority to teach belongs there. If there are contradictory messages within Christian denominations check what the Catholic Church teaches to hear the truth
12:08 "What Christianity was according to Jesus?"...it wasn't anything. Jesus was Jewish. Jesus came here to end the focus on religion and us vs. them. Jesus gave us two rules; Love God and Love your Neighbour, we didn't like that message and killed him...that's the simple truth.
min 0:18 St. Jude.
10:59 Was Mary related to David? I know from the genealogies that Joseph was, but, of course, Joseph wasn't Jesus' father.
YAHWEH BLESS Sister ! יהוה ברכה אחות
I usually don't listen to you for reasons that escape me, but this was an excellent and timely video. It was well documented, well researched, and well-presented. For my apologetic channel this is the kind of stuff I want to be putting up. Keep me in prayer. I find I need to learn discipline to get this task done. Yet the Lord is using me to help our church youth group and even opened a door to speak to a youth group in Pakistan via Skype.
Yes, actually according to what is written in jude is extremely important, a statement that clearly tells us, that we are free , as Jesus died, so that our sins are covered. And mostly we can live free from persecution.
And the biggest problem, for people is that they are still blind, and the preacher who blindly, condemn them. I know this for a fact, as I was part of that negative nature, of doctrine. People are ment to be free and prosperous. It is written, God said, go forth and multiply and prosper.
The problem is, you still can't except that the the aliens created Adam and Eve. The aliens are Male and female just like people are.
Their children are the angels. Just as our physical body is from Adam and Eve, and all the people are, their children. That's written in Mathew chapter 23v 8and 9, 10.
min 9:30. Of course the Christians of the 2nd century were United. They were all Catholic.🙏🏻
For me it's taking the Bible at face value. The message was simply the resurrection from my own death.
Later on came other people's history, philosophy, politics and science. That never convinced me nor removed the basic message.
👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽 💯 % - I appreciate you!
Thank you for this video!!!! Thank you for your obedience, Sister.
Awesome. The first thing I teach new converts is I Corinthians 15. Again, awesome.
Thanks and hats off to you for findings from the scriptures with the right illustration. I am blessed. God bless you and make you a channel of blessing to the Gospel believers Amen.
I love this
So true I as well agree that we should get back to the roots of the true teaching of the historical Christianity. This is why I would love to know how you found all this out and if there is any online courses that you know of for me to take to learn and grow in apologetics and to the historical Christianity so I can do my part and defend the true church teachings as you are. Thank you ever so much your a gem!
People were united in their faith in the first century by the visible Church Christ founded which is the Catholic Church.
Absolutely wrong. The catholic church wasn't around in the first century, and the Apostle Peter wasn't retroactively "the first 'pope' ". The catholic church was a creation of Rome and Constantine in 352 AD (therefore the fourth century) and it is full of paganism, idolatry and heresy. Read what Jesus says to the church in Thyatira (the name which means "continual sacrifice") in Revelation 2. Also see Revelation 17 and 18 for the eventual fate of Rome (Babylon). Flee the idolatry of catholicism.
@@chrishart2228 what was the main or ancient Christian denomination in Rome and other places what Paul visited during ministry? Are they Baptists church?
@@louellecaldino506 You're not very clever with that question, Caldino. Stupid question. They certainly weren't catholic, a fraud mother-son cult that was formed in the fourth century. Nice try.
They posture all day with falsehoods and in their blind ignorance they deny the obvious truth that Christianity is Catholicism and Catholicism is Christianity.
They lack humility to accept a Church so they dance around the truth and make up their own beliefs instead.
Let's hope and pray they open their eyes and not perish like their miserable protestant forefathers.
@@chrishart2228 you're also not very clever with your answer Hart, no where in history that those places are not Catholic, even in Antioch where we see the word Christians were used is even distinguish themselves as Catholic based on letter by saint Ignatius on his way to Rome for martyrdom
I know you don't pick what is advertised on your videos but Buddhism?
What’s the difference between the Church Fathers and the Early Desert Father’s?
Well said we call those Catholics cafeteria Catholics they pick and choose what they want well said that was excellent thank you
min 2:58. St Paul.
The Apostles Didache is another after Sacred Tradition.
it's a good term!
Thank you for this excellent, informative, and insightful explanation of historic Christianity! May the Lord continue to expand your influence for His glory and the good of others!
God The Father is the creator of all things at least in my Bible he is
One small mistake you made. You said that Paul lists the 500 people who saw the resurrected Jesus. That is incorrect. To list them he would need to state their names. Instead he mentions that 500 people saw him. I agree with you that the words of those who propound liberal theology matter so that is why you yourself have to be careful with your wording about these things.
To die for our sins is not the same as taking our sins upon himself to pay for them. Sins are ACTIONS (mental or physical) that take place at a point in time. As such, these actions cannot be transferred to another person or another time. The payment analogy is not used in the Bible when properly understood. God FORGIVES, which is the opposite of payment. You forgive precisely because a debt has NOT been paid, and if you pay a debt it is not forgiven, but paid. Jesus endured our sin, yet we erroneously thought he was stricken and smitten of God. But it was our sin, our actions that he endured (1 Peter 2:18-25 read in context). The shock that we would do this to the very Son of God should horrify us and turn us from sin and seek to be reconciled to God. God was in Christ reconciling the world to Himself (2 Cor. 5:18-21), not getting paid, which then voids us being reconciled to Him. If He got paid then He is the one who is reconciled to us, which is backwards.
Nonsense
@@blxck3978 Exactly!
jason twum
How so?
The subject of redemption is in the bible. Redeem means to buy or purchase. And scripture tells us Christians, specifically in 1 Peter 1 "... Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received by tradition from your fathers;
But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot:..."
@@lucille7069 Hi. That is a typical/standard response I get, but I recommend you do a word study as to how "redeem" is used in the Bible. You will find that it often means "to free". There is a Greek word for purchase, but redeem is used instead, and is often metaphorically. For example, "redeeming the time" - can you literally purchase time? No. You can free up some time by changing your schedule or rearranging priorities, but you cannot buy time. God also redeemed/freed His people out of Egypt through Moses, but nobody received any payment.
The verse you mentioned is another example. "you were not redeemed with perishable things like silver or gold from your futile way of life inherited from your forefathers, 19 but with precious blood, as of a lamb..." The blood of Jesus was not given to anyone as a literal payment. Nobody received this direct payment. The blood covenant of Jesus, if we choose to accept it, frees us from the "futile way of life inherited from your forefathers." It redeems us, frees us, from a previous way of living. It also frees us TO something: "...You were slain, And have redeemed us to God by Your blood..." Rev. 5:9. Jesus' blood frees us from our prior way of living, into a new way of living.
The Hebraic/Jewish language is the background of the Bible, even where it is in Greek, and it uses metaphors far more than we are used to, and this can unintentionally lead to sincere misunderstandings.
I would love to know where you learned all this stuff as I want to learn it more in detail. Is there an online school or course that you took to learn all this?
Why do I see my future self in you so much?
I hope you attain that graceful future.
Praise God. Good teaching
Right on time Alisa!! Straight up!
my like was # 666.....uhoh 😨
Sadly historic Christianity was eventually deemed as a heresy by subsequent "church fathers", because they didn't see Jesus as divine. It was in stark opposition to what Paul preached and labeled him a false apostle. Ironically, it was the disciples of Jesus that actually studied under Jesus that were on the wrong side of history as Paul won out. Historic Christians chose to be poor, stuck to a vegetarian diet and held to the Torah (they circumcised, observed the Sabbath, ate kosher, followed the law that Jesus himself said he didn't come to destroy but fulfill). I'm so confused when people lump them and Paul together...who do people think he's referring to in his letters? That's why we have people who say you're saved by faith alone but others say you have to have works...it's right there in the bible, look at what Paul wrote versus what is in the book of James (the brother of Jesus that took over the ministry after the ascension). Paul had a mob attack James and assaulted. Paul and Peter argued. Paul was a gentile to the gentile even though Jesus flat out said don't go the way of the gentile. If it wasn't for Paul making the executive decision to abandon the law Jesus said he came to fulfill, Christianity would have gone nowhere. Historic Christianity was historically Jewish.
That's such a distortion of the new testament and not at all what happened.
@@shooterdownunder Are you referring what happened to the Ebionites?
@@HankFidel I'm referring to Paul. I'm guessing you are one of those members of the Hebrew roots movement
@@shooterdownunder nope, technically Southern Baptist, but I just found out about Hebrews roots last week. I just did a lot of research is all. But I mean...Jesus and his disciples were Jewish, so I mean...makes sense.
@@HankFidel you do know that what Paul was combating in his letters was the errors of the oral law teachings that were held by the Pharisees that were beginning to sneak into the church. Also what James was discussing in context of his letter wasn't works plus, it was discussing a profession of faith as opposed to actual biblical faith. Much like if your partner says that they love you and then cheats on you, if they truly loved you would they have done it and that's what James was getting at. If you truly have faith your works would prove it.