Skinny Arrows Are The New Black || 4mm Black Eagle X-Impacts
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 ม.ค. 2022
- I built out a half dozen Black Eagle X-Impact 4mm Arrow shafts with 2.25" TAC vanes for urban archery season. They shoot like darts and tuned well with my current bow setup. Below are the specs for the arrows and my bow but first be sure to follow me on social media to stay up to date with my current setups and performance!
Instagram - @jeffcordero_
Bow
Hoyt Rx4 Ultra
71# 29.75" draw length 80% letoff
Arrow
250 Spine X-Impacts 28.5" Carbon-Carbon
4 Fletch TAC Driver vanes 2.25"
100gn steel F.O.C.O.S. Outsert system
Black Eagle nock
100gn QAD Exodus Broadheads
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Total Weight 501gn - กีฬา
I’d recommend insert tuning , and nock tuning your arrows before fletching. Think you’d be surprised how well it works
With the f.o.c.o.s. system you can nock tune after since the bh/fp screws into the outsert. Just have to loosen the set screw
Save some money folks- clean everything with 91% alcohol, not expensive wipes and glues. I wipe the base of every brand vane. I have used Gorilla brand " instant" glue for years and very very seldom loose a vane. Make sure and clean the inside of any shaft too so the low temp hotmelt can grab better.
Oddly black Eagle suggests using just water no alcohol or acetone. Which is mind boggling, I've never had that successfully work.
Gorilla glue with the blue cap is the best glue for fletching.
@@caninphx I have three vanes that say the same. never use anything but water. but a fourth from same mfg says wipe with alcohol. So far they are all doing well following that suggestion set from them.
@@caninphx try Bob smith’s maxi-cure. Sold with or without the accelerated curing primer. Stuff is amazing. Its cheap on amazon.
I'm gonna be trying some x-impacts in my onieda for my first time bow hunting this year. Build plan is 300 spine x-impacts cut at 31, standard black eagle outserts, 3 inch shield cut x-vanes, easton deep six nocks, and a 150gr annihilator xl broadhead this should put me at around 480gr 15% foc and 240fps at 60lbs
Can you do a video on your arrow cutter you showed in one of your other videos. It looked diy. I am planning on doing a diy one as well.
I went to the X impacts with 80 grain FOCOS outserts last year with my V3-31.
I love them so much I am using them again this year on my new new V3X-29.
They hit hard and have a great FOC.
I am at 14% FOC with these with a finished arrow weight of 421 grains
Speed I’m getting is 283 FPS.
That sounds like a killer setup. I’m going to try some ethics components next in these x-impact’s
Ventum 33 82lbs at 29" draw... 545 grains going 290. Ethics 135 with 100 grain heads. Need to look into some 200 spine x impacts asap. 300's fly decent but are way underspined
@@msarchery7053
300 Definitely underspined for your set up.
However 300 is perfect for mine.
Why didn’t you go right to the 200s? Just reading your set up I would guess the 200s would be better for you
500gr is enough to bust thru washing machines and car doors at 30-50yards thru Bowtech RPM 360 @71# & 29" & Obsession Fusion 6 with new M26 cams @ 62# & 29"... Very good happy medium
It’s a great setup for anything I’m going to hunt!
I love using tac vanes but haven't had success without using a primer pen for vanes staying stuck
I have that problem when using the AAE vanes, but so far so good with these.
I use ethics archery components look into them there really good they use real inserts that fit x-impacts
I am huge fan of Ethics Archery, they are located less than an hour from me. Hoss has been very helpful whenever I call him. I have the stainless Outsets on order for these arrows and will be building a half dozen with Ethics components when the arrive. I think the idea of the FOCOS system is cool, but I'm just not entirely sold on it
focos stands for front of centre outsert system.
I knew someone would know. 🙌🏻 Thank you!
Easton Procomp 250's for me thank you very much. MERICA!
very curious how your liking them, i built a doz with the aluminums and am having durability issues, picked up the steel to try but ill likely end up with the snyder core from iron will and ditch the exodus's unfortunately.
I like them but I'm not a fan of the focos system. Im waiting on some components from Ethics archery, but the shafts them selves I love
@@jeffcordero_ same boat here
Great video! I’m just building some BE Spartan arrows using the blue cool melt (Thanks for the cool melt tips!) and plan on Exodus Full Blade broadheads as my state won’t allow the swept. I’m still deciding on 100 or 125 grain, is there a reason you chose the 100 grain? I subbed a few weeks ago, Great channel!
At the time I purchased the 100g heads it fit what I was trying to build. If I switch to the 80g outsert when they are in stock I might pick up some 125g heads to keep my point weight up around 200-205g.
Thank you for the Sub! Glad your enjoying the content!
one thing i would add on the on using cool melt, is also clean the inserts before gluing/inserting. Remove the nocks before you insert, as the little bit of air pressure might move the inserts before it completely cures, especially if you use epoxy. The spartan nock bushings are hollow so you won't have any issues there either.
@@mgrundy great addition. When using a slower curing epoxy I do remove the nocks.
lol! I was “ tipping & tailing” feathers and vanes before Dudley was born. It ain’t new folks
I know it’s not new, it’s just where I picked it up from.
How do you like the x impacts compared to the Orion? And how are the Tac vanes compared to the heat vanes? I ordered some Orion arrows because they are slightly lighter than the x impacts just torn between heats and the driver 2.75
From a consistency standpoint point and overall quality the X-impacts are better than the orions. Some batches of the Sirius arrows are inconsistent but by no means “bad”. All the Black Eagle arrows I have across the different sizes have always spun very true. When it comes to the vanes I’m about to do a lot of testing of different vanes and configurations. That video is in the works and should be put in the next month or so. Stay tuned 😉
Did your TAC vanes stay on? Heard they don't do well with their primer pin? I didn't see you use it.
I did not use one, but I was heavy handed on my glue, maybe it will be an issue in the coming weeks but initially they seem to be ok. I will update if I have any issues in the near future.
Was blessed with an amazing wifey. She bought me a new Mathews V3x 33... what an amazing woman and fantastic bow. It is my first real flagship bow. I am now in the process of figuring out which shafts etc work best with the bow. I have no way to Fletch 4 at the moment. But am fletching different angles, straight, 1 degree, 3 and helical in several shafts. I have it narrowed I think to Easton 4 and 5 mm axis as well as 5 mm FMJ's. My question to you is, are the shafts you use better? Am I too invested in Easton lol? Also have great .001 shafts from Bass pro that seem fantastic and also Carbon Express Mutants. SO far the helical seems most accurate out beyond 40 yards to 100. Is this your experience at all and why the move to 4 vanes? What differences does th make in the real world?
Thanks much.
I love my easton arrows, but when you load up the front of an fmj they don’t hold up very well. The super black eagles are solid
I've had great performance with Vap Tko 300's. Helical for sure, both accuracy and broadhead stability. Current setup- 300's, ethics 135 and 100 grain heads. 4 fletch max stealth with 3* left helical. 545 grain taw. Fly like darts and proven to break bones. That said, there's 24 Easton injexions I'm playing with and who knows they may become hunting arrows.
How do you like the four fletch drivers? I am shooting them on gold tip velocities with a 140 point. Very accurate
I’ve been pretty pleased with them.
Do the Black Eagle’s already have the spin indicated on the shaft?
They do have the spine printed on the shaft, yes.
5mm - .204 and up is far easier and less headache to build. Brass hit inserts and iron will collar if you think you need. Square em up good. Gorilla hot melt the point and whole nine yards in. Bombproof and easily changed. ALL outserts and half outs bend over time shooting bag targets. Check your points for wobble after a month of shooting half outs....ooops. sucks. Iron will Snyder core is the only way I would bother with micro diameter. But why.
I agree that 5mm's have a wider variety of components that you can mix and match to accomplish your arrow building goal, but I wouldn't say they are "easier" to build. the same work applies regardless of shaft diameter. As for wobble with he outserts, I'm fortunate enough to shoot foam nearly every time I shoot.
I wander why more people don't use feathers...helps foc
I think feathers hold a place in the space, but when it comes to hunting a synthetic arrow is more reliable and durable under all conditions.
If they were Tech drivers don't you have to use the primer pin
They seem to have stuck just fine so far
450-500gr is $$
Are all x impacts 4mm
yes. Black Eagle makes a 5mm and its called the Rampage
518 gr arrows would shoot around 90 fps, out of my bow, lmao
You don’t nock tune?
Sometimes I do, sometimes I don’t.
@@jeffcordero_ after doing it once and seeing the difference in arrow flight just from turning the nock, I can’t bring myself to make an arrow without doing it.
I like your flag in your back... Wer you goz it from
Flags of Valor is who made the flag.
I’m done with small or micro arrows. Components all suck, halfouts will easily bend and cause arrow wobble. I’ve been using rip tko and while I love the durability, the inserts just don’t hold up. I’ve used rampage and they were the worst. This year I went with carnivores and I must say I was very satisfied. Easier to find inserts for the weight I’m looking to run. Cheaper and better, for me of course.
That's one of the main advantages to the F.O.C.O.S the inserts are glued into arrow and the outserts screw on so if you do bend one you just unscrew the bent one and put on a new one. Great design. Also check out ethic archery outsert system it has a insert with a outsert overlay and it's very tough and holds up great.
Just buy some heavy arrows and go hunting if you shoot pass 30,yards use a rifle
To each his own
Alot worse hobbies you could have..blood pressure goes down making flying sticks
Isn’t that the truth