I’m the schmuck who payed $416 at the same dealership as Matt ($28 of that tax, $281 in labor!!). I now am feeling totally ripped off. I’m no mechanic at all but do my own oil change and valve adjustments etc on my TW200. But I thought for this my first brand new hi tech bike, I’ll let the dealership do all the inspections… (they may do?) software etc… I do not accredit this to Triumph, I totally think its the dealer. Im trying to also get a warranty piece of work done they want me to pay for but that is another story. I’m with Matt, I have absolutely loved the bike, it’s got pick up! But.. just be aware, I feel it’s the new model blues, some will be fine and some will have issues, add that with parts not available from India and cheaper quality parts on it. I love that it was cheap for what it is.. but my credit card is starting to rack up at the dealer making it not cheap. Jury still out :)
Well ... Triumph is not a cheap brand for sure. And I would not feel ripped off if you really felt helped and serviced at the dealership. The people there have also to live from something ... But if you don't feel good afterwards and you maybe have another dealer to go to ... give it a try. Good work can cost a dollar more, but it has to be good work in the first place.
Street T 765. Spanner (service) light on, 12k, did the service myself all original Triumph parts, took it to dealer and they won’t turn it off unless they’ve done the service themselves 😮 This is despite having bought all the (expensive) parts and tools for the service from them. I just ignore the spanner now😂 My Yam Tracer mt09, I can reset light myself.
I agree, great bike. I just changed the front sprocket from the 14 tooth to a 15 tooth as most TH-camrs recommend. I did the work myself, found the correct sprocket on Amazon (get the one with the rubber strip around the circumference front and back of the sprocket). It shipped from the Netherlands but got here in a surprisingly short time. Ridge Roamer and Bankrupt Pensioner YT channels have good videos on this. Haven't had time to test performance on the highway but it extends 1st and 2nd gears on my dirt road. Reported to drop the RPMs about 300 to 500.
I never let anyone work on my bikes, including my new 400X. Did the oil change myself. Bought two filters and oil -about $45. One thing I haven’t much comment on is the amazing engine breaking it has.
Thinking strongly about getting one of these. As long as the dealer in New Orleans doesnt try and tack on a $1000 like most dealers around here do. I think Im in.
Hi from London. I don’t own one of these (yet), but it’s top of my short list, maybe look for a nice bargain used one in the winter. For some nice accessories, have a look at the K-Speed site, they are in Thailand. I don’t know how much the postage to USA is, or how long the wait… but they do a tail tidy for about $50 and a couple of different cool looking straight through exhausts for less than $400 ! Happy Trails!
BMW LED turn signals make yours sound like a bargain! 💰💰💰💰💰 I’m loving this bike, I’ve been riding the street one around the last week, the Scrambler is where it’s at!😎👍👍
I love all your videos and basically I did buy my 2023 TW 200 because of your recommendations. I love the TW but wish it had a little more power to keep up with traffic. So I am stoked about what you have to say about the Scrambler 400 X. Now my legs are kind on the shorter side. How do you handle the higher bike in comparison to the TW? I am looking forward on additional videos. Keep up the good work.
Awesome!! I hope you like the TW, I love mine! So, the Scrambler I am a bit high-centered, but it isn't bad on the road. Trails I might not be as confident.
Holy moly! 400 us dollars for the 1st service? Insane lol! Here in India its just 2000 INR or 24 dollars for the 1st service which includes oil change, washing the bike along with chain cleaning and lubing.
I was torn between this and the Suzuki V Strom 250sx, I eventually got the V Strom, first service at 1000kms was free (oil and filter change) I bought a service kit for it for the next service at Suzuki, I paid $50 😂 for a 250 this thing kicks real good, it almost drags my 08' Klr650, after seeing your video I'm glad I skipped the Triumph
Dude, my new RE Shotgun 300 mile break-in service was $800!!!!!! That's what Young Power Sports, where i bought it, charges for it. That's mostly labor costs for doing valve work. Friggin' ridiculous. They do the same thing every 3k miles. Doing it myself next time.
Love RE bikes. But valve clearance check every 5.000 km. Are they kidding? Check service intervals of that bike outside the US because you might be suprised. Some works are simply a tax that you pay to maintain the warranty.
Holy moly! You guys pay 400-800 for a service, I literally pay 45-50 usd for servicing my motorcycle, and not to forget the first 3-4 services are FOC + consumables(oil and filter) in India
I'm close to 600 miles on my 400x and also think the $416 service cost is a rip-off. I love the bike, but I'm used to inexpensive self-service maintenance costs for Hondas and Yamahas.
@@logicalindian_777 Cost of living in India is different than in Europe or the US so it is the average income. Having said this, 800€ for a break in service is outrageous even for USA standards.
I installed the Evotech tail tidy on my 400x. It's just ok. I don't like how exposed to the elements it leaves all the wiring. It's strange, because Evotech's tail tidy for my Tiger Sport 600 is excellent, plug-and-play, and completely encloses the wiring. Looks like Brogue Motorcycles has a tail tidy that might be better quality, but it's hard to see from just the photos. I'll probably be ordering that one if my turn signals start failing. Shame, because I immediately purchased from Evotech because it was such a great experience on my 600, so I was surprised the 400 tail tidy wasn't up to the same quality level.
Hoping the aftermarket picks up soon for these bikes and maybe with the 2025s they'll fix some of the issues I keep hearing about (randomly shutting off, etc). Still have my eyes on picking one of these up just to have a small bike to ride fast for fun and do some light offroading but some of the posts/videos of issues have had me hesitant and hearing rumors of an updated DRZ400 from Suzuki and stuff so I might just wait till EICMA and all these announcements are done to solidify my choice.
OMG, this bike is so much fun! I sold all my other bikes after buying the 400x. It has become my absolute favorite bike (I would probably pay double the price if I had to). Just fyi, it starts to get even better and smoother around 450 miles.
I bought this bike this spring, my Triumph dealer was supposed to see that I got $250 worth of gear which never happened. I am doing all my service work myself. Ì don't care how many service lights are on from now on.
Yeah, it's just a teeny weeny wrench icon, so not too distracting. They could have made it a bright orange flashing light (thank goodness they didn't).
The bike is sick, but kind of a buzz kill that you need proprietary software or a dealer to turn off indicators on the dash. That makes me appreciate the TW's simplicity that much more.
$400.00 for a 600 mile service is ridiculous. Parts for the Triumph are too expensive. Back in 1978 I bought a Triumph TR-7 and it was fun to drive but the workmanship of the build was questionable. Saying that, I wished I still had that car.
One question and one point... What is included in the 1st service that is would cost $416?! Basically an oil ad filter change, a quick tug of the chain, a once over to make sure nothing is falling off... No thanks. I trust myself MUCH more than any dealer tech. And I hope someone comes up with the proper sequence to turn off the service light! I rode the Scrambler and the Speed 400s both multiple times at Barber this weekend and fairly well decided that this will be my next bike But, I do ALL of my own bike service work and haven't had a bike at a stealership in over 20 years, and even that was for warranty work! NO WAY in HELL I'm making an over 2 hour round trip, and PAYING for them to just turn off the service interval light. I have 16 bikes currently, of various makes, and none of them take more than a minute to turn off the service light once you know the sequence of buttons, key on/key off, etc. Your dealer charging you $31 for that just shows how little they appreciate their customers. 👎
Wow! Just watched Tdubkid and he says his 400 had a minor dump and due to a plastic piece being broke off it stranded him. Then he comments going to be expensive and he doesn’t know how long the bike will be down. Yikes!
Hey Matt , I’m 5-7” have you found the seat height to be an issue? Went and sat on one the street 400 fits me like my TW but the scrambler seemed a bit tall , what are your thoughts. I’ve seen a few lowering kits….?
My 1st service was covered under the warranty. Only paid for the oil change which I’ll do myself next time. Great videos and I look forward to more 400X content.
$425? WHAT? I have mine at right over 600 miles ......Isn't it just an oil change? (I love the bike, but I also love many Hondas and Kawasakis and some Yamahas too). 31.25 to turn off light O ring 0.68 Oil filter 9.00 Motor oil at - $18.00 x 3 = 54.00 - Castrol POWER 1 SAE 10W-50 $101.xx with tax I assume
I have a better idea since it will cost you $32 bucks to turn the service light off from now on. Just disassemble the speedo and take the bulb out, or put a piece of black electrical tape over the service light. Problem solved.
Labor is expensive. Oil changes are expensive. Oil changes are easy. Fix the light with jb weld. $10. Paste it up and rig it into position, let it sit 24 hours
Keep your eyes on eBay and Aliexpress. As these bikes are built in India and generally more affordable there, there should be a strong aftermarket coming out. My motorcycle, a KTM 390 Adventure, has been out for a while and the parts are plentiful and inexpensive.
Triumph scrambler 400 were produced in India with India quality control..same like Harley Davidson x400/500 I still prefer my Kawasaki super cruiser SOHC KZ200 year 1983 produced in Japan
I'll just end up ignoring the service light when I start servicing mine outside the warranty period. Dealership want stupid money for a simple service, 2 litres of oil and filters, wont be long before after market service parts are available. 😉
I’m the schmuck who payed $416 at the same dealership as Matt ($28 of that tax, $281 in labor!!). I now am feeling totally ripped off. I’m no mechanic at all but do my own oil change and valve adjustments etc on my TW200. But I thought for this my first brand new hi tech bike, I’ll let the dealership do all the inspections… (they may do?) software etc… I do not accredit this to Triumph, I totally think its the dealer. Im trying to also get a warranty piece of work done they want me to pay for but that is another story. I’m with Matt, I have absolutely loved the bike, it’s got pick up! But.. just be aware, I feel it’s the new model blues, some will be fine and some will have issues, add that with parts not available from India and cheaper quality parts on it. I love that it was cheap for what it is.. but my credit card is starting to rack up at the dealer making it not cheap. Jury still out :)
Well ... Triumph is not a cheap brand for sure.
And I would not feel ripped off if you really felt helped and serviced at the dealership. The people there have also to live from something ...
But if you don't feel good afterwards and you maybe have another dealer to go to ... give it a try. Good work can cost a dollar more, but it has to be good work in the first place.
Unfortunately, this is the ONLY Triumph dealership in the state.
Street T 765. Spanner (service) light on, 12k, did the service myself all original Triumph parts, took it to dealer and they won’t turn it off unless they’ve done the service themselves 😮 This is despite having bought all the (expensive) parts and tools for the service from them. I just ignore the spanner now😂 My Yam Tracer mt09, I can reset light myself.
I agree, great bike. I just changed the front sprocket from the 14 tooth to a 15 tooth as most TH-camrs recommend. I did the work myself, found the correct sprocket on Amazon (get the one with the rubber strip around the circumference front and back of the sprocket). It shipped from the Netherlands but got here in a surprisingly short time. Ridge Roamer and Bankrupt Pensioner YT channels have good videos on this. Haven't had time to test performance on the highway but it extends 1st and 2nd gears on my dirt road. Reported to drop the RPMs about 300 to 500.
NICE!!! Thanks for the insight!
I never let anyone work on my bikes, including my new 400X. Did the oil change myself. Bought two filters and oil -about $45. One thing I haven’t much comment on is the amazing engine breaking it has.
Yeah, all I had them do was turn the light off. I prefer working on my own bikes as well.
went to get one of these for my wife ... we left with a scrambler 900 😂
Triumph makes quality stuff , I've had 2 1050 triples that ran flawlessly
There you go! 😂
Thinking strongly about getting one of these. As long as the dealer in New Orleans doesnt try and tack on a $1000 like most dealers around here do. I think Im in.
I've had a great time with mine! I was $1,700 in fees on mine.
Hi from London. I don’t own one of these (yet), but it’s top of my short list, maybe look for a nice bargain used one in the winter.
For some nice accessories, have a look at the K-Speed site, they are in Thailand. I don’t know how much the postage to USA is, or how long the wait… but they do a tail tidy for about $50 and a couple of different cool looking straight through exhausts for less than $400 !
Happy Trails!
Awesome!! Thank you Jon, I really appreciate it!
BMW LED turn signals make yours sound like a bargain! 💰💰💰💰💰
I’m loving this bike, I’ve been riding the street one around the last week, the Scrambler is where it’s at!😎👍👍
I know I shouldn't complain, but that just seems stupid to me. If mine is cheap, the dealers are screwing us all!
I love all your videos and basically I did buy my 2023 TW 200 because of your recommendations. I love the TW but wish it had a little more power to keep up with traffic. So I am stoked about what you have to say about the Scrambler 400 X. Now my legs are kind on the shorter side. How do you handle the higher bike in comparison to the TW? I am looking forward on additional videos. Keep up the good work.
Awesome!! I hope you like the TW, I love mine! So, the Scrambler I am a bit high-centered, but it isn't bad on the road. Trails I might not be as confident.
Great Vid. Matt. Keep up the great content. A++
Thanks Clark!
That first service is crazy. In the uk, or at least my dealer, they dont charge for the labour of the first service. Only for the parts/oil.
That would be awesome if they did that here!
@MOBStreet83 just had it today. It cost £79 ($102)
Holy moly! 400 us dollars for the 1st service? Insane lol! Here in India its just 2000 INR or 24 dollars for the 1st service which includes oil change, washing the bike along with chain cleaning and lubing.
Yep, it was kinda crazy.
Nice video Matt.
Watching from Spain 👍
I am glad you like it. Thanks for watching!
I was torn between this and the Suzuki V Strom 250sx, I eventually got the V Strom, first service at 1000kms was free (oil and filter change) I bought a service kit for it for the next service at Suzuki, I paid $50 😂 for a 250 this thing kicks real good, it almost drags my 08' Klr650, after seeing your video I'm glad I skipped the Triumph
Well, I thought for sure this was gonna be a different animal. It is, but kind of a dressed up street bike.
Really good video, subscribed.
Thanks Charlie! I really appreciate it and I hope you enjoy the channel.
Hey Matt , did some research and rally raid makes a shock that can 20-to-50 mm
Awesome! Thanks!
Dude, my new RE Shotgun 300 mile break-in service was $800!!!!!! That's what Young Power Sports, where i bought it, charges for it. That's mostly labor costs for doing valve work. Friggin' ridiculous. They do the same thing every 3k miles. Doing it myself next time.
Love RE bikes. But valve clearance check every 5.000 km. Are they kidding? Check service intervals of that bike outside the US because you might be suprised. Some works are simply a tax that you pay to maintain the warranty.
My Bonnevilles have 20k valve checks.
Yearly/ 10k service is that same $400, but it's mostly an oil change and checking all the screws.
Holy moly! You guys pay 400-800 for a service, I literally pay 45-50 usd for servicing my motorcycle, and not to forget the first 3-4 services are FOC + consumables(oil and filter) in India
I'm close to 600 miles on my 400x and also think the $416 service cost is a rip-off. I love the bike, but I'm used to inexpensive self-service maintenance costs for Hondas and Yamahas.
@@logicalindian_777 Cost of living in India is different than in Europe or the US so it is the average income. Having said this, 800€ for a break in service is outrageous even for USA standards.
Evotech has a quality tail tidy kit.
It protects the wires from rocks and sun. So far, it's the only one I've found that protects anything.
Thank you!
I installed the Evotech tail tidy on my 400x. It's just ok. I don't like how exposed to the elements it leaves all the wiring. It's strange, because Evotech's tail tidy for my Tiger Sport 600 is excellent, plug-and-play, and completely encloses the wiring. Looks like Brogue Motorcycles has a tail tidy that might be better quality, but it's hard to see from just the photos. I'll probably be ordering that one if my turn signals start failing. Shame, because I immediately purchased from Evotech because it was such a great experience on my 600, so I was surprised the 400 tail tidy wasn't up to the same quality level.
Tidy tail kit from Thailand. I saw it on another creators channel. It’s sitting in my garage waiting to be put on
I'll check it out. Thank You!
Hoping the aftermarket picks up soon for these bikes and maybe with the 2025s they'll fix some of the issues I keep hearing about (randomly shutting off, etc). Still have my eyes on picking one of these up just to have a small bike to ride fast for fun and do some light offroading but some of the posts/videos of issues have had me hesitant and hearing rumors of an updated DRZ400 from Suzuki and stuff so I might just wait till EICMA and all these announcements are done to solidify my choice.
You and me both! Yeah, I have heard the DRZ might get EFI for 2025
OMG, this bike is so much fun! I sold all my other bikes after buying the 400x. It has become my absolute favorite bike (I would probably pay double the price if I had to). Just fyi, it starts to get even better and smoother around 450 miles.
I bought this bike this spring, my Triumph dealer was supposed to see that I got $250 worth of gear which never happened. I am doing all my service work myself. Ì don't care how many service lights are on from now on.
Yeah, I am gonna be doing all my own as well.
Yeah, it's just a teeny weeny wrench icon, so not too distracting. They could have made it a bright orange flashing light (thank goodness they didn't).
JB Weld that light together and it'll be better than new.
Great idea!
The bike is sick, but kind of a buzz kill that you need proprietary software or a dealer to turn off indicators on the dash.
That makes me appreciate the TW's simplicity that much more.
Yep, the TW is way more simple.
$400.00 for a 600 mile service is ridiculous. Parts for the Triumph are too expensive. Back in 1978 I bought a Triumph TR-7 and it was fun to drive but the workmanship of the build was questionable. Saying that, I wished I still had that car.
Yeah, I thought it was too! The craftsmanship so far has been up to par on this one!
One question and one point... What is included in the 1st service that is would cost $416?! Basically an oil ad filter change, a quick tug of the chain, a once over to make sure nothing is falling off... No thanks. I trust myself MUCH more than any dealer tech.
And I hope someone comes up with the proper sequence to turn off the service light! I rode the Scrambler and the Speed 400s both multiple times at Barber this weekend and fairly well decided that this will be my next bike But, I do ALL of my own bike service work and haven't had a bike at a stealership in over 20 years, and even that was for warranty work! NO WAY in HELL I'm making an over 2 hour round trip, and PAYING for them to just turn off the service interval light. I have 16 bikes currently, of various makes, and none of them take more than a minute to turn off the service light once you know the sequence of buttons, key on/key off, etc. Your dealer charging you $31 for that just shows how little they appreciate their customers. 👎
I am not arguing with anything you said here Michael! 👍
Aside from a warped front rotor mines been solid. (Sitting at 900 miles)
Same...warped front rotor on mine too
That's what happened to my buddies bike as well!
Wow! Just watched Tdubkid and he says his 400 had a minor dump and due to a plastic piece being broke off it stranded him. Then he comments going to be expensive and he doesn’t know how long the bike will be down. Yikes!
Yep!
It looks like a sweet bike. That's really odd about the tail light.
Dude, the bike is a blast. You oughtta take it for a spin and see what you think!
Brogue Motorcycles got a nice tidy tail kit
Awesome, Thank You!
Hey Matt , I’m 5-7” have you found the seat height to be an issue? Went and sat on one the street 400 fits me like my TW but the scrambler seemed a bit tall , what are your thoughts. I’ve seen a few lowering kits….?
Hey John! Yeah, it is a bit of hinderance, but not too bad. I teeter a bit at a stop, but it's manageable. I am having a blast with it really.
My 1st service was covered under the warranty. Only paid for the oil change which I’ll do myself next time. Great videos and I look forward to more 400X content.
Well, that's cool! I wish mine was. There is more on the way.
How is this that first service not covered under warranty? Sounds like you got taken for a ride (no pun intended)
Yep, that's how it goes
Tdubs Kid had a video for tail cleanup.
Yep, I have seen that video. Thanks for the reminder, I appreciate it.
$425? WHAT? I have mine at right over 600 miles ......Isn't it just an oil change? (I love the bike, but I also love many Hondas and Kawasakis and some Yamahas too).
31.25 to turn off light
O ring 0.68
Oil filter 9.00
Motor oil at - $18.00 x 3 = 54.00 - Castrol POWER 1 SAE 10W-50
$101.xx with tax I assume
Yep! It was crazy
I have a better idea since it will cost you $32 bucks to turn the service light off from now on. Just disassemble the speedo and take the bulb out, or put a piece of black electrical tape over the service light. Problem solved.
Too bad it's a digital dash 😁 the tape will work though!
@@MOBStreet83 Hahaha
Labor is expensive. Oil changes are expensive.
Oil changes are easy.
Fix the light with jb weld. $10. Paste it up and rig it into position, let it sit 24 hours
👍😂
here in Brasil, the first and second service coste U$17,00 dolar with oil and all with tax.
Well, you are getting a way better deal than we are! 😂
That is a "stealership". They are a typical boutique I suppose. The price of progress?
I need to deal with them a bit more to really find out my opinion on them for sure.
Keep your eyes on eBay and Aliexpress. As these bikes are built in India and generally more affordable there, there should be a strong aftermarket coming out. My motorcycle, a KTM 390 Adventure, has been out for a while and the parts are plentiful and inexpensive.
Sweet!! Thanks for the insight, I really appreciate it!
Triumph scrambler 400 were produced in India with India quality control..same like Harley Davidson x400/500
I still prefer my Kawasaki super cruiser SOHC KZ200 year 1983 produced in Japan
Well, you aren't wrong.
I would get the 900 or 1200 if I could
Yeah, but the 1200 is 3x the price of the 400.......if I could, I would've bought the 1200x
@@MOBStreet83 yeah price is definitely a factor for me
Someday, I hope it won't be......but for now it is. 😂
I took the speed out for a test ride the bike stopped 4 times with out me touching the kill switch not good
Yeah, I have been hearing that with these.
🤟🖤🤟
joan jett and the black hearts
Thanks Atilla!
I'll just end up ignoring the service light when I start servicing mine outside the warranty period. Dealership want stupid money for a simple service, 2 litres of oil and filters, wont be long before after market service parts are available. 😉
Good call! 😀
Hi Matt
Hey Steve! 👋
Bring it to TW fest
Sorry Dave!
I'd find a new dealership.
Unfortunately, this is the only one in the state
Geeze, how many idiot lights are on that speedo⁉
um........there are a lot of them!
Gold forks are hideous.
Well, that's what they come with so I just gotta deal with it for now.
Nope, they're beautiful.
Brogue motorcycles makes a kit for that.
I'll check it out!