Luis Conceição are you talking about the refund tokens? Pretty sure Reyfield was talking about the undo button at the store ingame, not the refunds from the League Client.
dddmemaybe its because of the rule that once you use that item or engage in any fight you cant re-sell them and for example homeguards once you get the buff you cant sell it back i dont know for sure if that aplies to auras aswell
Sentinalh They had to. It's tobacco use and that limits the game in other countries. In the Gragas skin - because SOMEONE is going to mention it - he is not actually consuming the alcohol or smoking the cigar. Graves is outright smoking it. We're not gonna give you a cigar because it will mess up the game in other countries. Suck it up.
Parianos euwest I love how Gragas can drink alcohol but Graves can't have his god-damned cigar. I also love how Tahm Kench can eat you alive but Graves can't have a fucking cigar.
Pantsu Kakumei I don't hate 3v3 now, I think it's interesting, but I really miss the old Twisted Treeline. Sometimes I just want to play a normal game with just three people. Now I can't without having to play an entirely different mode. It's kind of annoying...
GameT0P3R Yeah my internet happens to die, then after a week angry parent appears and says YOU YOUNG MAN COME TO EAT RIGHT NOW OR YOU WONT SEE YOUR COMPUTER EVER AGAIN, repeat 2 times I have to wait 40 minutes before I can play the fucking game.
+Aksu560 As much as it sucks for you, and I get them feels, it was to stop people from just making a smurf and playing that while their main account is banned. Literally what I did whenever it happened to me. My advice, play bots games until they are gone. They go quick and you literally find a game straight away.
Gold458 ikr i was once in a co op vs ai match (just to get my first win of the day before i went to bed) and people were bitching about me ks'ing and hacking xD
Who cares if it's bots or not, it deletes gaming expirience. So we is not option. And about "it's my kill hurp durp" who cares about that either, my kill is my kill xxx
I will never forget Feral flare with Madstone :p , sure I'm still plat 1, with over 700 Udyr ranked games, but those were the best times as him, would play all day
I actually liked the old map more ^^ Favorite change is definitly the smart ping system because its the only thing that was ever done for the community interaction
Anyone else notice something strange about howling abyss? 1. the side with the shopkeeper has lissandra imprinted on the ground 2. the area aroun this spot has alot of watcher-referencing architecture 3. the ghost shopkeeper supplies you so you can kill the watchers. "Death to the Watchers!" 4. the other shopkeeper says "You kill them, and ill keep diggin!" Howling abyss is about a treasure hunter unwittingly trying to free the Frozen Watchers The Ghost is trying to stop him
***** I call bullshit on that. Warwick, Fiddles and Gragas exist for a reason. (Yes, even good ol' fatman can jungle with mediocre masteries and no runes.
The new jungle items did NOT increase jungle diversity, since Riot also decreased the amount of pots you could get with your machete. They did, however alleviate the problem by later nerfing the jungle camps and buffing their rewards. Still, there are eras of artificial diversity such as the tank meta, and now, the devourer (Master Yi) meta. While I love jungle, I think it could definitely use a few tweaks.
TheThonanth He means diversity on terms of appreciate Smite and their effects on mosters. Smiting a champ is way useful and before waas treated as a waste of SM(because cant help on 1vs1,not because was a bad SM.)
Dark Helel I remember when it was trailblazer or nothing, lol, and people still don't use grey smite. I understand what you're saying though, smiting champs is pretty useful now.
TheThonanth yeah grey smite is kinda useless, its only good for counterjungling, but is also basically tells the enemy. "hey im counterjungling" ive neve
smashingy0u Me 2 i've been playing this game since beta and i can tell you i've only played on Aram/Murderbridge like 6 times throughout 5 years, also the dominion map only have seen it on videos and Twisted Treeline as well, i only play on Summoners Rift..
Ross Kliebenstein They keep making awesome champions with great concepts, And the lore around the League is vast enough to make some more gamemodes and maps. So I don't really understand why they wouldn't expand on it. But then again, I'm not a game developer. We can only hope I guess.
well if they keep churning out characters the character selection will need another ban or two lol, well look at heroes they have quite a few maps and each one is different and apparently balanced (i play both) they are all objective based so it shows it can be done
Ross Kliebenstein I don't know heroes, But I do know Smite. Well, We can only really hope for some more variety in maps. And yeah, We already need more than 6 bans xD.
Did everyone forget about Proving Grounds. It was the 1 lane Aram map that was used in customs before they removed it for Howling Abyss when they made Aram queue a thing.
One of my favorite little changes was the opportunity to refund things( even though it is limited)
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I think when the new HUD comes out it would easily fit into the top 10 changes in lol, as I think when people get used to using the HUD they will realise that it makes the gameplay experience much smoother for the player
Felix Arndt Teambuilder is great for Junglers such as myself...Takes me around 60 seconds from picking a champion to starting a game> I dont get why people don't want to play Jungle..its the best role in my opinion
I dont agree with the map thing. I loved the old map and when i see it in a video... the nostalgia... i guess u dont appreciate smth until u lose it and that goes beyond just the game
Love how I actually recommended most of these changes way back in 2k10-2k12 on the german forums and all riot did was deeming them impossible or unnecessary.
In my case I got hacked and my account got banned forever, when I then contact LoL support it took them 3 weeks to answer my ticket, and all I'm told is "Since you are the original creator you are responsible for all of your accounts actions", which is like saying it's your fault that someone broke into your house, because you have something worth stealing. I know many others
TheDanishToilet I lost my account once but got it back from the support and they even refunded all the RP gifts the thief had done (Even tho that made my refund count 0) so it's worked fine for me
I won't argue that the ARAM queue and map is the best addition to league lol. As a mega-casual, this mode is epic and hilarious to play with friends. We just hope to get someone like Singed, Ezreal, or Xin Zhao, and spam their really funny and repetitive joke/taunt. Before this, the community tried to invent the game by just making everyone go mid on Summoner's Rift in a custom game (that's why it's called All Random All Mid) and making the rules that no one can recall or go outside of the lane, and making a map for this specific mode made it much easier to enforce the rules and made it easier to play in general, with increased mana regen, health packs, lots of gold generation, and more experience generation. In terms of regular gameplay, though, I think the addition of new pings and the many changes to vision (Sightstone, Trinkets, max of 3 wards, Vision Ward remake, removal of Oracles) really changed the game, as well as the support items. Before these vision changes, people had to always ward themselves, especially the support, and vision was so easily dominated and controlled when the enemy has Oracles and invisible Vision Wards to completely shut down your vision without a whole lot of counterplay. Now, Oracles are removed, so no one can roam around to clear wards literally everywhere they walk and Vision Wards aren't so overpowered because they're visible, Sightstone is in the game, warding is emphasized as a team effort, and it's much easier to get vision, so that warding isn't completely the support's responsibility, it's not that hard for the team to light up the map when you upgrade Trinkets, and clearing wards and controlling vision is more strategic with having to think more about Vision Ward placement and usage of your Sweeping Lens.
Now I love ARAM as much as the next guy, but I don't think it deserved number one. I think Smart Pings do, because before them, you had to type out what you wanted and where, and by the time you sent it, you were dead.
I remember aram and lissandra was just being released. I've never been so hyped about Lol since then other than urf. I instantly bought liss and totally love her.
This isn't really a change as such, but I like that Riot now post champ and skin sales much more earlier in advance. It allows for more time to ponder what skins to get and obtain the necessary IP for champions needed.
I've only been playing this game since the start of season 5, so im not quite seasoned yet. Out of what I have experienced in the game so far, one of my favorite changes was the introduction of Cinderhulk.
Dunno if these jungle changes are really a good thing. In earlier seasons, jungle wasn't something official, it was something players came up with, and managed to make viable. Now it's just "hey, you wanna jungle ? You do it that way, now take this lollipop and shut up". Also, maybe it's because I'm getting tired of the game, but I feel like every patch advantages the same champions over and over again. It doesn't help that these champions are basically the most annoying ones, like Nidalee, with Luden's Echo which allows her spear to once again OS you without taking any risk. However, Teambuilder, the new Rift, the official ARAM map (before they put the snowball summoner spell) and the spectator mode are really great changes. I remember when ARAM was in custom games, you were happy to get a champ you liked, and some jackass left the queue because they didn't get theirs. And then they come back in your room saying "urr durr I had a bug".
#6 made top lane a hellish place for a little while. Skirmisher's Blade with smite/tp was unbeatable if used by a competent player and was a direct contributor to the shrinking of the pool of meta top lane champions, pretty much removing mages and assassin/AD bruisers from top lane.
One thing I would like to point here, and yeah I know it's an old video. But the items shown are quite... different then they were in League back then. 1 nitpick here, Philosophers Stone! Not pebble! Those passives never belonged to those items, they were reworked into the items with those passives, and the 'Soul Tithe' passive never existed. Not to mention that 1, Pebble was never an item, Philosophers Stone was. Shurelya's was an item. Kage's Pick, not an item. Kage's Lucky Pick, an item. Shard of True Ice? Also an item. Executioner's Emblem and it's entire line never actually existed. They were an entirely different name, and the picture used for the first item was Emblem of Valor, which only gave health and health regen to all nearby allies. These items while the reworked items had similar passives, sometimes the exact same after the rework, came out back in 2013, with this video on 2015. I'm actually curious as to why Jeremy dug super deep to find these 'ideas' for items which I couldn't even get any research on today, just practically an ancient article talking about Executioner's Emblem... and about it's reveal, not the release. Why not go with the items that actually -came- out. Just pointing it out for those newer League players looking back at Jeremy's videos so you guys don't actually see false information. Everything else was pretty solid though.
The Smart pings were the most important to me. Then Jungle / Support itemization. Then the new map. That said, as the ranked ques are down and I'm running out of things to do while I wait for them to come back up... I'm gonna go play some ARAM : D
Personally i hated the vision changes. One of my strongest points when i used to play support was ward coverage, and I felt like Riot took that away to some degree when they implemented the 3 wards per champ rule. There were a lot of games we would win purely on vision coverage alone, and now its become a lot harder in soloq to do so simply because too many people still dont understand the importance of warding.
One for All was a mockup "apology" or coverup by Rito Game after they got rid of a DLL edit that they said they were 100% OK with and would keep. This DLL edit let people pick whatever champion they wanted - even if another person on their team picked the champ. It was pretty glitchy, but it was uproarious and having it disappear after just a week of a replacement pissed me off.
I definitely think Smart Pings should be way higher on that list. I remember having to type Mia and Re in chat all the time. Now it's tons easier. Also I'm a slowish typer so the communication of the danger pings and that were amazing!!!
Sightstone is cool, ward limit sucked lol. I used to be a ward KING. Enemies couldn't hide and I could carry the game that way. I understand the balance reasons behind it, but in SoloQ that kinda sucked. Having Sighstone, 5 Greens, 2-3 Pinks was pretty dope.
tbh Poacher's Knife is not so good like it used to be, when the enemy team see that you bought this item they start to ward their jungle and results in a feeding.
You forgot item sets for specific champs and specific maps. Overall great vid and if it's not to much to ask do one for Top 10 worst changes to League if possible. There's one bad thing League has done.
yeah I'd say poachers knife has greatly improved the jungle.... Only so much so that every meta completely revolves around the latest jungle item change.
Don't agree with #1, yeah it's a cool map but it didn't have the impact the other changes had in the game which are, in my opinion, far more important.
You forgot about the quality of champion design. There is a long way from nunu/annie/old ashe to rek'sai, azir or bard. Champs created now are so much more interessing.
Okay okay okay okay okay I'm sorry but............................did Riot's Team Builder teaser actually feature *Top lane* Fighter Lee Sin, *Jungle* Tank Leona, and *MIDDLE LANE MAGE TEEMO?* Rito. Pls.
Its weird but I hope they add a official hide and seek game mode, just like in ARAM it would stop some of the trolls and make it easier to queue up for it.
Completely disagree on the jungle items one. Spirit Stone made almost every champion in the game able to jungle, and you could literally pick Brand or Morgana jungle and win ranked games, even at plat elo. It was much better, and the whole concept of "choosing your playstyle through your items" just doesn't work. You back so early to get the first item you won't even know what's going to be optimal most of the time, and that's the reason why Poacher's Knife is non existent. The enchants are a joke of an item, due to the ideal playstyle of a jungler being what it is Warrior is clearly the most natural and best enchant among the four, however to force this "diversity" shit Riot has to put so much more power on items such as Cinderhulk, Runeglaive and Devourer - those have all been played in lanes with Smite (devourer not much, but I've seen lane vaynes and udyrs with smite) because of this very unbalancement that is needed to even make some champions viable. Remember when Riot made all the jungle items balanced? Elder Lizard was clearly the strongest one because it fits what a jungler should do. AD fighter/bruiser is naturally the most adept style for a role that is constantly fighting monsters and autoattacking stuff all the time. Instead of operating on the nature of the jungle, to promote diversity they're trying to push out items that balance other playstyles with the natural one, but they have to be so strong in order to balance them that they are naturally good enough on laners, especially with Challenging Smite being as good as an Ignite in most cases. Riot just has the wrong approach for the jungle items. If they seek diversity they should change the mechanics of the jungle so that Mages can actually clear it without running out of mana and hp after two camps, or so that farm junglers still have the choice to be good at ganking if the situation calls for it. Playing around with overpowered items won't do much.
***** Ypu have a point about that smite lanes thing, but allowing mages to jungle without running out of mana and hp after 2 camps, it's just not gonna happen. Should they change bot lane too so tanks can lane withotu running out of hp? Well, it's how the lanes work. Most mages aren't junglers, some junglers aren't that capable of laning and some laners only work well in a certain lane.
Nick Lersberghe I know, that's kinda my point as well. If you go for diversity you have to change how the jungle works, if you don't go for diversity then keep the jungle as it is - only some champions can jungle, just like only some champions can play botlane. I'm arguing that items such as Runeglaive are useless because of this, and make stuff like mid Ez overpowered while not really making AP junglers any more viable.
***** I think the jungle item changes had the right intentions and were a step in a good direction; they just had poor execution (extremely poor with the poachers knife). As for jungle champion diversity, I would have to write a 20 page essay to convey all of the intricacies of the issue. If you want a good summary of why most ap champions don't work in the jungle I believe stonewall has a good video on the subject.
***** I partially disagree with what you're saying, because, in the way I see it, Junglers and Bruiser aren't really the same. Junglers, from my point of view, are champions that usually are either good objective controllers (Nunu, Jungle Cho'Gath, could add more but I'm lazy), champions with good engaging tools and good early-midagame ganks, usually being tanky champions, like Amumu, J4 or Sejuani and farm-heavy junglers that usually don't put much pressure in the game but become huge threats in later parts of the game (ex:Shyvana, Yi, Warwick, etc.) How does that relate to your comment? It relates in the fact that you seem to think only Lee Sin, Rek'Sai and Jarvan can jungle. You do not take account of all the tank-junglers, like Rammus, Amumu, Sejuani or Gragas. Where, I ask you, where would warrior fit in a build of any of those champions? I do agree that we won't really see any mage jungler in the current jungle (except for Fiddlesticks, but he's something else...), and that it would need a complete overhaul to allow them, but you're just acting like the only thing that works without being broken is the warrior smite, and I disagree. After the nerf, Cinderhulk isn't really all that over-powered, and still is the item for a tank jungler. You cannot think that the current jungle is a place for bruisers only, as, EVEN befor the op-Cinderhulk came out, the game had a tanky jungler who wouldn't build warrior as its highest win-rate champion. Really, tanks are as natural to the jungle as AD bruisers. Also, isn't the Challenging Smite a bruiser item? That's the reason there it are top laners who use it: an item so good for a bruiser like Shyvana, for example, with the boon of extra effects like the sunfire cape aura and a bit more of tankyness? That's just what Shyvana and Fizz wants, and there's an iten that give those. Were they strong earlygame gankers, they would be used not only as toplaners, but also as junglers in the professional scenerio. And let's be honest here, a large part of us just try to copy what's in the LCS.
Henrique Pacheco I get your point, and all I'm really saying is Riot should think more carefully before releasing all of these jungle items. They just seem to release things that look good without actually thinking about their impact on the meta. How the heck did that Devourer make it to live with Kayle being so strong with it? Why was challenging smite balanced that way if their intent was to push splitpush/invade junglers (those are the only realistic cases where junglers actually get to 1v1) I'm not saying I know the answer to all the issues of jungle balance, all I'm saying is Riot is doing a terrible job in S5 compared to what they did in S4.
The new jungle items are probably one of the worst because riot can't fucking figure out what to do with them. We've had complete overhauls to 3/4 of the items and we're only halfway through the season. Every time they change them they're broken so they force a completely new meta. So broken that solo laners take them because it's that much of an advantage.
Owened Certain* solo laners. Have you ever seen a smite top lane Maokai? A smite top lane Gnar? A smite middle lane Zed? A smite middle lane Ahri? Just because Shyvana and Fizz top are using Cinderhulk and middle lane Ezreal is using Runeglaive, it doesn't means the items are broken. They do usually create a new meta when reworked, but that's because you're changing 1/4 of the jungle items, and maybe making one worthier than other. Cinderhulk made it so that tanks were stronger in the jungle, but it wasn't an item so broken. Really, all it did was give a bit too much damage along the defense it was supposed to give to make it strong. Now that it doesn't deal huge DoT, some junglers have gone back to the Warrior enchantment, which is especially great to put more pressure early on with the large amout of damage the item brings. We now also have Sated Devourer, which allows attack-speed junglers to shine, but it isn't the only viable thing. And runeglaive, well, we didn't see AP junglers and we still don't see them! And fer champions use it anyways.
I agree with you greatly on this. I am surprised not to see the undo button here, however these are still a great 10. I feel some of these are more 'additions' to the game, however it doesn't matter. lol Great video :)
Now what I don't get is why the fuck would they design a new ARAM map (Butcher's Bride) that looks so amazing only to take away so people can't experience it more... Why not have the game mode switch back and forth every game or give the players the option to vote? It's a waste...
i still dont get why they took off team builder.... now you get to pick two lanes and sometimes people ask for a switch because they didnt want their second lane.... team builder gave you your champion and build.... it wouldve been nice if there was bans but now its just dumb
If i remember correctly we used to play ARAM through a custom game on proving grounds not SR, also i hope the order these are in is not actually the ranking because if so than there ware better things that could have taken nr 1 spot.
I thought the old Summoners Rift was waaay better than the new one. There should be an option in custom games to play old reworked champs and the old SR
The idea of team builder is awesome but in reality its different. Instead of looking for certain team comps people just ensure their lanes. Also you have 0 chance of trying something new or off meta for example double jungle.
Unless you grind out dozens of games for each champ in each role the mmr in team builder is god aweful. I can barely maintain a 40% win rate in team builder but any other game mode is 55%+
I really hate the snowballs in ARAM... I know they help a lotof champions engage and I once got a pentakill thanks to it but i really hate them in general
HOW IS THE RESELL BUTTON NOT NUMBER 1. The amount of gold and rage that has saved people is without question best addition to league of legends.
Reyfield People still rage about not having more resells XD
Luis Conceição are you talking about the refund tokens? Pretty sure Reyfield was talking about the undo button at the store ingame, not the refunds from the League Client.
OH mb
Reyfield The buy-back button still breaks often when purchasing something just before respawning.
Rito pls.
dddmemaybe its because of the rule that once you use that item or engage in any fight you cant re-sell them and for example homeguards once you get the buff you cant sell it back i dont know for sure if that aplies to auras aswell
i was happy when they disabled zed and riven at the same time C:
This comment literally made my day XD
Марат Волков #freebans
Марат Волков Just take my like, kind sir. YOu just earned it.
Марат Волков you...just said what most people wanted...just have your like
Марат Волков when did that happen?
But Howling Abyss wasn't the first aram map, Proving Grounds existed a slight amount of time before, but I think it was primarily used as a 1v1 map.
Best change of all time: Removing Graves' Cigar
Sentinalh If we're at this logic getting rid of Mord's Codpiece is number 1. It's a legitimate Piece of armor used in battle to protect your bits.
hypergenn Summoners Rift got a visual update but Graves can't have a goddamn sigar? RITO pls
Sentinalh They had to. It's tobacco use and that limits the game in other countries. In the Gragas skin - because SOMEONE is going to mention it - he is not actually consuming the alcohol or smoking the cigar. Graves is outright smoking it. We're not gonna give you a cigar because it will mess up the game in other countries. Suck it up.
Sean Meert its like dominion can be in the game but graves cant have a cigar
ZappTVHD Yeah and Teemo can exist but Graves can't have a cigar !
My favourite change was where I stopped playing
Ashley Newman 10/10 would recommend
Ashley Newman And taking on the LIFE GAME ? ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ #FeelsBadMan
Ashley Newman Where did you stop play?
Give me ur acc Kappa
Ashley Newman how did you get to this video then? xD
The game is getting better but graves can't have a goddamn cigar !!!
Parianos euwest I love how Gragas can drink alcohol but Graves can't have his god-damned cigar.
I also love how Tahm Kench can eat you alive but Graves can't have a fucking cigar.
Henrique Pacheco So i can refrence magikarpusedfly but graves cant have a goddam cigar?
Fantabulicious I love how Alistar can knock up Annie but Graves can't have a cigar.
Parianos euwest I love how i'm missing the point, yet graves can't have his cigar.
Mubu5Reborn I love how Gragas Esquire can smoke his cigarrette but Graves can't have a damn cigar.
Top 1 worst change in LoL. The ''new'' Twisted Treeline, I used to love 3v3 so much, now it's dumb.
Pantsu Kakumei I don't hate 3v3 now, I think it's interesting, but I really miss the old Twisted Treeline. Sometimes I just want to play a normal game with just three people. Now I can't without having to play an entirely different mode. It's kind of annoying...
Pantsu Kakumei the worst change is the 20 min que priority bullshit. Literately the reason why i quit league.
GameT0P3R Yeah my internet happens to die, then after a week angry parent appears and says YOU YOUNG MAN COME TO EAT RIGHT NOW OR YOU WONT SEE YOUR COMPUTER EVER AGAIN, repeat 2 times I have to wait 40 minutes before I can play the fucking game.
Pantsu Kakumei no the worst change is grave cant have a cigar
+Aksu560 As much as it sucks for you, and I get them feels, it was to stop people from just making a smurf and playing that while their main account is banned. Literally what I did whenever it happened to me. My advice, play bots games until they are gone. They go quick and you literally find a game straight away.
Unfortunately there are actually people who take aram extremely serious. I even met people wh take Co-op Vs. AI serious too. Good video though Jeremy
Gold458 ikr i was once in a co op vs ai match (just to get my first win of the day before i went to bed) and people were bitching about me ks'ing and hacking xD
iTviX123 Look at the end game lobby. The people are (most of the time) either under level 30/new or immature xD
iTviX123 I would reprot for ks, don't fuck up with that, that ruins whole expirience if you ask me.
Alexa Radovanovic so what, its bots? also i didnt actually ks, its just those people who are like "i shot him first so its my kill hurp durp"
Who cares if it's bots or not, it deletes gaming expirience. So we is not option. And about "it's my kill hurp durp" who cares about that either, my kill is my kill xxx
Season 4 was the best, played since s1 and never had as much fun as early/mid season 4 :)
I will never forget Feral flare with Madstone :p , sure I'm still plat 1, with over 700 Udyr ranked games, but those were the best times as him, would play all day
Urf i think season 4 was the most pain in the ass i enjoyed season 2 the most :D
Sven schäfer true season 2 was the best
l'omaar bhs shen malphite op best times
Master0fLight feralflare was the best
For me the best change was the undo item purchase function. I'd also throw boot enchantments in there too! Loved that update
I actually liked the old map more ^^ Favorite change is definitly the smart ping system because its the only thing that was ever done for the community interaction
I really like the Butcher's Bridge map
Irk it looks so good
*ikr
rob idink it sucks
rob idink Its ugly
Anyone else notice something strange about howling abyss?
1. the side with the shopkeeper has lissandra imprinted on the ground
2. the area aroun this spot has alot of watcher-referencing architecture
3. the ghost shopkeeper supplies you so you can kill the watchers. "Death to the Watchers!"
4. the other shopkeeper says "You kill them, and ill keep diggin!"
Howling abyss is about a treasure hunter unwittingly trying to free the Frozen Watchers
The Ghost is trying to stop him
Bard should be in this list...
Purge Pepe good joke
Thank you friend!
Purge Pepe no3 is bullshit the old map was much better fuck this new shit
Quinn too
Der Markus quinn op
I always use teambuilder
Liam Donker "I dont always use blind pick, but when I do I regret not taking Teambuilder"
Liam Donker Y DID THEY MAKE TEAMBUILDER LVL 25 AND UP?!?! LVL 21 PLAYER (me) SO SAD!
Max The Magic Ice Cream Badger because no one has the runes or masteries to survive the jg until lvl 25
***** I call bullshit on that. Warwick, Fiddles and Gragas exist for a reason. (Yes, even good ol' fatman can jungle with mediocre masteries and no runes.
Henrique Pacheco thats onl;y 3 champs though and you cant clear it normally
The new jungle items did NOT increase jungle diversity, since Riot also decreased the amount of pots you could get with your machete. They did, however alleviate the problem by later nerfing the jungle camps and buffing their rewards. Still, there are eras of artificial diversity such as the tank meta, and now, the devourer (Master Yi) meta. While I love jungle, I think it could definitely use a few tweaks.
TheThonanth Look up a channel called StoneWall008 he actually came up with a way to make it more diverse
TheThonanth He means diversity on terms of appreciate Smite and their effects on mosters.
Smiting a champ is way useful and before waas treated as a waste of SM(because cant help on 1vs1,not because was a bad SM.)
Dark Helel I remember when it was trailblazer or nothing, lol, and people still don't use grey smite. I understand what you're saying though, smiting champs is pretty useful now.
TheThonanth yeah grey smite is kinda useless, its only good for counterjungling, but is also basically tells the enemy. "hey im counterjungling" ive neve
Quinn .Schoenfeld Great for trolling with friends ^w^, not much else.
Am i the only one who doesn't give a shit about the aram map?
Yes now get out of here
smashingy0u Me 2 i've been playing this game since beta and i can tell you i've only played on Aram/Murderbridge like 6 times throughout 5 years, also the dominion map only have seen it on videos and Twisted Treeline as well, i only play on Summoners Rift..
Not the only I, but your opinion is only shared by so many, I've played aram a fuck ton, you obviously don't have any friends to play with.
ARAM is usually extremely unbalanced
my favorite change would be that the chat in champion select appears at the same time for everyone
God, I love ARAM
they still need more maps, it is weird to always play on the same map all the time
Absolutely, I've never liked how it's only Summoner's Rift.
i get they claim its cause of balance, but they need to do something to keep the game fresh besides new champs
Ross Kliebenstein They keep making awesome champions with great concepts, And the lore around the League is vast enough to make some more gamemodes and maps. So I don't really understand why they wouldn't expand on it. But then again, I'm not a game developer. We can only hope I guess.
well if they keep churning out characters the character selection will need another ban or two lol, well look at heroes they have quite a few maps and each one is different and apparently balanced (i play both) they are all objective based so it shows it can be done
Ross Kliebenstein I don't know heroes, But I do know Smite. Well, We can only really hope for some more variety in maps. And yeah, We already need more than 6 bans xD.
Did everyone forget about Proving Grounds. It was the 1 lane Aram map that was used in customs before they removed it for Howling Abyss when they made Aram queue a thing.
"Back in my day we had to play ARAM on Summoner's Rift"... man, I feel old now. I remember that too.
Love this series. Thanks for all the work you put in :) #BTA5
One of my favorite little changes was the opportunity to refund things( even though it is limited)
I think when the new HUD comes out it would easily fit into the top 10 changes in lol, as I think when people get used to using the HUD they will realise that it makes the gameplay experience much smoother for the player
Teambuilder: waiting ages for jungle and support...
True
Felix Arndt Teambuilder is great for Junglers such as myself...Takes me around 60 seconds from picking a champion to starting a game> I dont get why people don't want to play Jungle..its the best role in my opinion
Felix Arndt play jungle or support xD
TheDeathJesters It is indeed. I main jungle, too.
Idk why but for me hardest role to get in team builder is adc
I dont agree with the map thing. I loved the old map and when i see it in a video... the nostalgia... i guess u dont appreciate smth until u lose it and that goes beyond just the game
Georgaras T it's because the old map was very hard to concentrate looking at
Georgaras T K, you can join the other 1% that thinks that in the corner over there
Legitness k m8
Legitness definently what i had in my head not like i just had a random thought and felt like commenting it on a video about the topic, right?
Love how I actually recommended most of these changes way back in 2k10-2k12 on the german forums and all riot did was deeming them impossible or unnecessary.
The best change was when they nerfed kata
Igor Ivanovic its easy to play against kata... just cc her and boom , she is dead
She still literally 1shots everything... I am also not sure if they released the ultra nerf... They might.
Kimbo Slice If they really wanted to nerf her./... just give her fcking mana ... why talon has mana and not katarina?
Suzan Tadros Tell me a reason why, before you cry like a little bronze piece of shit ,
1. i am not bronze but let me tell you a simple thing: kat with mana = useless champ
A nice change would be better customer support.
TheDanishToilet i think its pretty good
What is your problem with it?
In my case I got hacked and my account got banned forever, when I then contact LoL support it took them 3 weeks to answer my ticket, and all I'm told is "Since you are the original creator you are responsible for all of your accounts actions", which is like saying it's your fault that someone broke into your house, because you have something worth stealing.
I know many others
Have been through even worse support. And to top it off when I asked the supporter if i could talk with his superior he threw my ticket back in queue.
TheDanishToilet I lost my account once but got it back from the support and they even refunded all the RP gifts the thief had done (Even tho that made my refund count 0) so it's worked fine for me
No Life Steal rework? Figured that would be on here because it sounds like it was absolutely nuts back in the day.
I won't argue that the ARAM queue and map is the best addition to league lol. As a mega-casual, this mode is epic and hilarious to play with friends. We just hope to get someone like Singed, Ezreal, or Xin Zhao, and spam their really funny and repetitive joke/taunt. Before this, the community tried to invent the game by just making everyone go mid on Summoner's Rift in a custom game (that's why it's called All Random All Mid) and making the rules that no one can recall or go outside of the lane, and making a map for this specific mode made it much easier to enforce the rules and made it easier to play in general, with increased mana regen, health packs, lots of gold generation, and more experience generation.
In terms of regular gameplay, though, I think the addition of new pings and the many changes to vision (Sightstone, Trinkets, max of 3 wards, Vision Ward remake, removal of Oracles) really changed the game, as well as the support items. Before these vision changes, people had to always ward themselves, especially the support, and vision was so easily dominated and controlled when the enemy has Oracles and invisible Vision Wards to completely shut down your vision without a whole lot of counterplay. Now, Oracles are removed, so no one can roam around to clear wards literally everywhere they walk and Vision Wards aren't so overpowered because they're visible, Sightstone is in the game, warding is emphasized as a team effort, and it's much easier to get vision, so that warding isn't completely the support's responsibility, it's not that hard for the team to light up the map when you upgrade Trinkets, and clearing wards and controlling vision is more strategic with having to think more about Vision Ward placement and usage of your Sweeping Lens.
Now I love ARAM as much as the next guy, but I don't think it deserved number one. I think Smart Pings do, because before them, you had to type out what you wanted and where, and by the time you sent it, you were dead.
I'd say the introduction of a Ranked Queue was a quite nice change aswell : )
I remember aram and lissandra was just being released. I've never been so hyped about Lol since then other than urf. I instantly bought liss and totally love her.
rest in piece my friend, team builder. over 700+ games played
1:12 I use them quite often. The frustrating part of this is the simple way to see how many pings there are in my games.
My pings = All pings
This isn't really a change as such, but I like that Riot now post champ and skin sales much more earlier in advance. It allows for more time to ponder what skins to get and obtain the necessary IP for champions needed.
I've only been playing this game since the start of season 5, so im not quite seasoned yet. Out of what I have experienced in the game so far, one of my favorite changes was the introduction of Cinderhulk.
Dunno if these jungle changes are really a good thing. In earlier seasons, jungle wasn't something official, it was something players came up with, and managed to make viable. Now it's just "hey, you wanna jungle ? You do it that way, now take this lollipop and shut up".
Also, maybe it's because I'm getting tired of the game, but I feel like every patch advantages the same champions over and over again. It doesn't help that these champions are basically the most annoying ones, like Nidalee, with Luden's Echo which allows her spear to once again OS you without taking any risk.
However, Teambuilder, the new Rift, the official ARAM map (before they put the snowball summoner spell) and the spectator mode are really great changes. I remember when ARAM was in custom games, you were happy to get a champ you liked, and some jackass left the queue because they didn't get theirs. And then they come back in your room saying "urr durr I had a bug".
Not to mention that the new summoners rift was actually made by an independent group of people and riot never even mentioned them
#6 made top lane a hellish place for a little while. Skirmisher's Blade with smite/tp was unbeatable if used by a competent player and was a direct contributor to the shrinking of the pool of meta top lane champions, pretty much removing mages and assassin/AD bruisers from top lane.
One thing I would like to point here, and yeah I know it's an old video. But the items shown are quite... different then they were in League back then. 1 nitpick here, Philosophers Stone! Not pebble! Those passives never belonged to those items, they were reworked into the items with those passives, and the 'Soul Tithe' passive never existed. Not to mention that 1, Pebble was never an item, Philosophers Stone was. Shurelya's was an item. Kage's Pick, not an item. Kage's Lucky Pick, an item. Shard of True Ice? Also an item. Executioner's Emblem and it's entire line never actually existed. They were an entirely different name, and the picture used for the first item was Emblem of Valor, which only gave health and health regen to all nearby allies. These items while the reworked items had similar passives, sometimes the exact same after the rework, came out back in 2013, with this video on 2015. I'm actually curious as to why Jeremy dug super deep to find these 'ideas' for items which I couldn't even get any research on today, just practically an ancient article talking about Executioner's Emblem... and about it's reveal, not the release. Why not go with the items that actually -came- out. Just pointing it out for those newer League players looking back at Jeremy's videos so you guys don't actually see false information. Everything else was pretty solid though.
SS AND SUPPORT ITEMS OMG LOL.
I remember season 2. Fairy Charm + Wards -> HoG -> Boots -> MAYBE Philo -> wards for the rest of the game.
What about the removed dodge?
"Imagine if I had a real weapon." - Django Unchained 1912
The Smart pings were the most important to me.
Then Jungle / Support itemization.
Then the new map.
That said, as the ranked ques are down and I'm running out of things to do while I wait for them to come back up... I'm gonna go play some ARAM : D
I like team builder but when I used it i find myself waiting half an hour before playing a single game
If Jeremy made a new video about this, the removal of Dominion would be #1. Dominion was just about as empty as my DMs
Personally i hated the vision changes. One of my strongest points when i used to play support was ward coverage, and I felt like Riot took that away to some degree when they implemented the 3 wards per champ rule. There were a lot of games we would win purely on vision coverage alone, and now its become a lot harder in soloq to do so simply because too many people still dont understand the importance of warding.
Riot should wreck the Dominion map and transform it into an hide and seek gamemode
One for All was a mockup "apology" or coverup by Rito Game after they got rid of a DLL edit that they said they were 100% OK with and would keep. This DLL edit let people pick whatever champion they wanted - even if another person on their team picked the champ. It was pretty glitchy, but it was uproarious and having it disappear after just a week of a replacement pissed me off.
I definitely think Smart Pings should be way higher on that list. I remember having to type Mia and Re in chat all the time. Now it's tons easier. Also I'm a slowish typer so the communication of the danger pings and that were amazing!!!
I think the best change ever is that zed and riven have been temporary disabled.
Sightstone is cool, ward limit sucked lol. I used to be a ward KING. Enemies couldn't hide and I could carry the game that way. I understand the balance reasons behind it, but in SoloQ that kinda sucked. Having Sighstone, 5 Greens, 2-3 Pinks was pretty dope.
i miss the old map, the old league in general really
tbh Poacher's Knife is not so good like it used to be, when the enemy team see that you bought this item they start to ward their jungle and results in a feeding.
that's a tough one
but my favorite recent change is the new Liandry's Torment for sure
i want the old supporting back, back then you actually could get the role and the support mains were also real mains.
I started playing league at the beggining of S2 and i stopped playing at the ending of S3 .. and i came back because i saw the new map... im a pleb XD
as a janna main i have to say ardent censer was a pretty nice addition. it feels like it was made for me
when the season 3 supp was a thing, i played janna supp, bought all gold per items except for the static shiv part, drowning in money was the best
It's weird seeing some of this things that are no longer in the game
#1 Server Split
After having Server Issues for more than 1 week, we finally had split Servers
No 2 : Removing DFG
No 1: Removing Dominion
How about not being able to ignite minions anymore, that shit could make a battle hardened monk fish shed a tear
You forgot item sets for specific champs and specific maps. Overall great vid and if it's not to much to ask do one for Top 10 worst changes to League if possible. There's one bad thing League has done.
yeah I'd say poachers knife has greatly improved the jungle.... Only so much so that every meta completely revolves around the latest jungle item change.
Don't agree with #1, yeah it's a cool map but it didn't have the impact the other changes had in the game which are, in my opinion, far more important.
You forgot about the quality of champion design. There is a long way from nunu/annie/old ashe to rek'sai, azir or bard. Champs created now are so much more interessing.
Okay okay okay okay okay I'm sorry but............................did Riot's Team Builder teaser actually feature *Top lane* Fighter Lee Sin, *Jungle* Tank Leona, and *MIDDLE LANE MAGE TEEMO?*
Rito.
Pls.
+Jonah Peretz Explain it to me 'cause I'm fucking retarded and have no idea what's wrong with those.
Its weird but I hope they add a official hide and seek game mode, just like in ARAM it would stop some of the trolls and make it easier to queue up for it.
on 1:51 who was the guy with the blackhole i remember fighting it
Before I watch this THE NURF TO KASSADIN BETTER BE #1 !
Luka Baric nope
Luka Baric Pre-nerf Kassawin was op af, fking hated him...
Completely disagree on the jungle items one.
Spirit Stone made almost every champion in the game able to jungle, and you could literally pick Brand or Morgana jungle and win ranked games, even at plat elo. It was much better, and the whole concept of "choosing your playstyle through your items" just doesn't work. You back so early to get the first item you won't even know what's going to be optimal most of the time, and that's the reason why Poacher's Knife is non existent. The enchants are a joke of an item, due to the ideal playstyle of a jungler being what it is Warrior is clearly the most natural and best enchant among the four, however to force this "diversity" shit Riot has to put so much more power on items such as Cinderhulk, Runeglaive and Devourer - those have all been played in lanes with Smite (devourer not much, but I've seen lane vaynes and udyrs with smite) because of this very unbalancement that is needed to even make some champions viable.
Remember when Riot made all the jungle items balanced? Elder Lizard was clearly the strongest one because it fits what a jungler should do. AD fighter/bruiser is naturally the most adept style for a role that is constantly fighting monsters and autoattacking stuff all the time. Instead of operating on the nature of the jungle, to promote diversity they're trying to push out items that balance other playstyles with the natural one, but they have to be so strong in order to balance them that they are naturally good enough on laners, especially with Challenging Smite being as good as an Ignite in most cases.
Riot just has the wrong approach for the jungle items. If they seek diversity they should change the mechanics of the jungle so that Mages can actually clear it without running out of mana and hp after two camps, or so that farm junglers still have the choice to be good at ganking if the situation calls for it. Playing around with overpowered items won't do much.
***** Ypu have a point about that smite lanes thing, but allowing mages to jungle without running out of mana and hp after 2 camps, it's just not gonna happen. Should they change bot lane too so tanks can lane withotu running out of hp? Well, it's how the lanes work. Most mages aren't junglers, some junglers aren't that capable of laning and some laners only work well in a certain lane.
Nick Lersberghe I know, that's kinda my point as well. If you go for diversity you have to change how the jungle works, if you don't go for diversity then keep the jungle as it is - only some champions can jungle, just like only some champions can play botlane. I'm arguing that items such as Runeglaive are useless because of this, and make stuff like mid Ez overpowered while not really making AP junglers any more viable.
***** I think the jungle item changes had the right intentions and were a step in a good direction; they just had poor execution (extremely poor with the poachers knife). As for jungle champion diversity, I would have to write a 20 page essay to convey all of the intricacies of the issue. If you want a good summary of why most ap champions don't work in the jungle I believe stonewall has a good video on the subject.
***** I partially disagree with what you're saying, because, in the way I see it, Junglers and Bruiser aren't really the same. Junglers, from my point of view, are champions that usually are either good objective controllers (Nunu, Jungle Cho'Gath, could add more but I'm lazy), champions with good engaging tools and good early-midagame ganks, usually being tanky champions, like Amumu, J4 or Sejuani and farm-heavy junglers that usually don't put much pressure in the game but become huge threats in later parts of the game (ex:Shyvana, Yi, Warwick, etc.)
How does that relate to your comment?
It relates in the fact that you seem to think only Lee Sin, Rek'Sai and Jarvan can jungle. You do not take account of all the tank-junglers, like Rammus, Amumu, Sejuani or Gragas. Where, I ask you, where would warrior fit in a build of any of those champions?
I do agree that we won't really see any mage jungler in the current jungle (except for Fiddlesticks, but he's something else...), and that it would need a complete overhaul to allow them, but you're just acting like the only thing that works without being broken is the warrior smite, and I disagree. After the nerf, Cinderhulk isn't really all that over-powered, and still is the item for a tank jungler. You cannot think that the current jungle is a place for bruisers only, as, EVEN befor the op-Cinderhulk came out, the game had a tanky jungler who wouldn't build warrior as its highest win-rate champion. Really, tanks are as natural to the jungle as AD bruisers.
Also, isn't the Challenging Smite a bruiser item? That's the reason there it are top laners who use it: an item so good for a bruiser like Shyvana, for example, with the boon of extra effects like the sunfire cape aura and a bit more of tankyness? That's just what Shyvana and Fizz wants, and there's an iten that give those. Were they strong earlygame gankers, they would be used not only as toplaners, but also as junglers in the professional scenerio. And let's be honest here, a large part of us just try to copy what's in the LCS.
Henrique Pacheco I get your point, and all I'm really saying is Riot should think more carefully before releasing all of these jungle items. They just seem to release things that look good without actually thinking about their impact on the meta. How the heck did that Devourer make it to live with Kayle being so strong with it? Why was challenging smite balanced that way if their intent was to push splitpush/invade junglers (those are the only realistic cases where junglers actually get to 1v1)
I'm not saying I know the answer to all the issues of jungle balance, all I'm saying is Riot is doing a terrible job in S5 compared to what they did in S4.
ARAM wasnt on summoners rift. It was on its own special map in custom games only.
One of the best changes is when they reworked Nidalee so her spear didn't do 3000 damage automatically to squishies.
The new jungle items are probably one of the worst because riot can't fucking figure out what to do with them. We've had complete overhauls to 3/4 of the items and we're only halfway through the season. Every time they change them they're broken so they force a completely new meta. So broken that solo laners take them because it's that much of an advantage.
Owened Certain* solo laners. Have you ever seen a smite top lane Maokai? A smite top lane Gnar? A smite middle lane Zed? A smite middle lane Ahri?
Just because Shyvana and Fizz top are using Cinderhulk and middle lane Ezreal is using Runeglaive, it doesn't means the items are broken. They do usually create a new meta when reworked, but that's because you're changing 1/4 of the jungle items, and maybe making one worthier than other. Cinderhulk made it so that tanks were stronger in the jungle, but it wasn't an item so broken. Really, all it did was give a bit too much damage along the defense it was supposed to give to make it strong. Now that it doesn't deal huge DoT, some junglers have gone back to the Warrior enchantment, which is especially great to put more pressure early on with the large amout of damage the item brings. We now also have Sated Devourer, which allows attack-speed junglers to shine, but it isn't the only viable thing. And runeglaive, well, we didn't see AP junglers and we still don't see them! And fer champions use it anyways.
I agree with you greatly on this. I am surprised not to see the undo button here, however these are still a great 10. I feel some of these are more 'additions' to the game, however it doesn't matter. lol
Great video :)
What is this ranked team builder you mentionened? Please you got me all exited
Jakob Algeblad Same as normal teambuilder but for ranked
Don't know if it comes under the jungle items but just the new jungle in general is way better. The buffs, the gromp, everything about it is better.
Maybe you could make a video about Dominion and why it´s not a popular game mode. =)
3:40 dat Nasus face doe.
Now what I don't get is why the fuck would they design a new ARAM map (Butcher's Bride) that looks so amazing only to take away so people can't experience it more... Why not have the game mode switch back and forth every game or give the players the option to vote? It's a waste...
Back in my day there was a map called The Proving Grounds. Pretty much ARAM map.
i still dont get why they took off team builder.... now you get to pick two lanes and sometimes people ask for a switch because they didnt want their second lane.... team builder gave you your champion and build.... it wouldve been nice if there was bans but now its just dumb
6 years ago, we are on s5, s1 came a year after lol had been available to the public
If i remember correctly we used to play ARAM through a custom game on proving grounds not SR, also i hope the order these are in is not actually the ranking because if so than there ware better things that could have taken nr 1 spot.
and now teambuilder is gone.. and I must say, I miss saying "Mage Toplane" or "Mordekaiser botlane marksmen" etc. :/
Yeah same
+Evilriku13 morde was a botlane for a while after his rework
I thought the old Summoners Rift was waaay better than the new one. There should be an option in custom games to play old reworked champs and the old SR
The idea of team builder is awesome but in reality its different. Instead of looking for certain team comps people just ensure their lanes. Also you have 0 chance of trying something new or off meta for example double jungle.
What about masteries pages? In season 1 you had only one(!!!) so you had to change your masteries EVERY SINGLE GAME!
2:14 when was kayles ult range that big ..... :0
did anyone else notice how riot is advertising on playing teemo mid?
Obviously the highest change ever in the history of LOL was the introduction of the ranked games
I think the worst change they've done was removing the tribunal. Best was Sighstone.
Unless you grind out dozens of games for each champ in each role the mmr in team builder is god aweful. I can barely maintain a 40% win rate in team builder but any other game mode is 55%+
I really hate the snowballs in ARAM... I know they help a lotof champions engage and I once got a pentakill thanks to it but i really hate them in general
The introduction of season III. What a great season
What about the removal of Dfg? that basically fixed midlane singlehandedly