it's okay I'm holding on to my 2080 ti for a while anyways...1st gpu I ever put a waterblock on (: cuz next time I upgrade my GPU I'll also be upgrading from my LG 27GL850
me playing games on 60hz and GTX 970: still somewhat wins some games and thinks I'm good at it *after watching the video: so it was luck (starts playing against bots)
imagine using intel celeron 1.5ghz cpu with integtrated gfx in it. imagine playing minecraft at 22fps with only 2 chunks rendered at a time. imagine takking the 2gbs of ram out of a broken school chromebook and wanting to add it to ur pc bc ur pc so trash but then realizing it doesnt even have an open pcie slot. imagine being named wyatt honeycutt. pls kill me B)
Thank you so much for the insight to competitive Gaming. There are very few people who understand this information I can't wait to provide a accredited source of information to my teammates and friends.
That’s so awesome, thank you for explaining latency types, this was really easy to understand, my 6 year old niece loved it 🥰 Time to go see for myself with my RTX 3080 Founders edition! Oh wait.
pssst, u dont need a 3080 if u care about latency. CPU & ram matter far more than a GPU unless your playing above 1080p low which in that case you could logically justify buying a 3080, but then you'd be on a 1440p + monitor with higher latency already. It's not nvidias fault that there's a literal shortage of silicone and only one factory is operating right now.
Nice video , please make.more videos with Tony their quite good and you learn fun stuff. Still enjoying my 1080 ti and will be changing when the 4000 series come up . The 3000 are a nice upgrade but I wait for more vram
Do you guys have a solution for NVIDIA latency ?? aka the delay (measured in months) between the new product announcement & the actual availability of the product to general public
Can confirm latency issues. Having a gaming laptop with i7 7th gen and GTX 1050 Ti while playing Apex Legends at 3-10Mbps with 60Hz screen is probably a great challenge. Now imagine getting better hardware and stable internet. That is where the real fun begins!
@@joelconolly5574 First off, don't go above 180 fps on apex. Their game engine is so dog shit and busted. Just 240hz and above. Don't play on high settings if u care about latency anyway.
I never really thought about system latency before the nvidia reflex trailer, and still didn’t believe it when I saw it but when I tried it I got a lot better headshot percentage.
1) Do not use Fortnite as a sample. 2) Do not undermine network latency as being a prevalent problem by completely disregarding the issue. 3) DO use samples of offline gameplay of amazing games(i.e. RDR2). 4) Finally and foremost, do not pretend anyone watching your video wasn't already going to buy your product. p.s. I kept checking my playback speed because it was clearly sped-up prior to original upload.
Very Cool! :D I understand that latency also negatively affects *Virtual Reality* video games, I hope that this technology can also help improve the VR decreasing the uncomfortable and dizzy sensations while increasing the immersion of the virtual worlds.
Nvidia pls make your AI work with several common hardware setups to find the best scenario i.e. low latency in the most common games. When I first started playing fortnite. Frame rate in replaymode was 5 Ms, at some time it was even less. In the last months it went up and up until it reached 12 Ms . Now with a just fresh reinstall after some non related issues, the frame rate is 8 to 11 Ms.
Option's not showing up in Overwatch or Nvidia control panel. Reinstalled both driver and game, nothing. Was working in PTR the other day. Anyone got a fix? Can't find anything yet.
That's not how that works. There's a literal shortage in the chips that make up CPU's and GPUS. Only one factory is operating right now. Do some research
Agreed, but input latency isn't that simple. There's other things that are consider "input lag" but wouldn't exactly be shown on paper. A lot of stuff can be down on a Operating System to reduce the latency and handle the inputs a lot better.
the main issue for peekers advantage is lag compensation for network code. in their little demo, they were showing two systems, same network latency, but one with their nvidia reflex enabled to reduce latency, and the other with disabled. they are CREATING an issue, then solving it by saying "buy our gpu" to get more sales. in reality the biggest "fuck you" to us gamers are the games, aka all of them, which utilize a lag compensation system, so low ping players don't shit on high ping players.... quake 3 arena days were mint, 5 ping would shit on an entire server due to lowest latency. i remember having dial up and getting shit on because i had 50 ping. got comcast in the new house and bam, 5 ping, shit on everyone else.... i miss the days of ping advantage. and whats funny is, the whole point of lag compensation was to help have MORE gamers together to make servers more populated. except now there is easily 10x+ more gamers in the world playing pc gaming, so you don't NEED lag compensation to help fill servers. you can literally have east/middleus/west servers, and everyone would have a good time. but no, they use lag comp and put my east coast ass on a west coast server and the only time I can win is if i abuse peekers advantage.....
@@goblinphreak2132 Your reaction time is the biggest bottleneck. 2nd is input latency, and then network lag. If your ping is stable then it's not a huge deal, if it has high jitter and packet loss then it's a huge issue. I prefer to focus on my motor skills > network latency. I don't play videos games at the moment simply because my internet is so awful that it's actually pointless. I'm waiting until i get my 360hz and the atompalm mouse comes out and i move into my new house. I can't stand dying to fucking bots when i'm easily better.
I'm going to have to start reviewing cards again if I'm going to get new ones I guess. That is real latency. 360hz is marketing. The main problem now is not being able to host your own servers for games, and having to do crossplay in Warzone that adds so much latency that we are back to late 90s early 2000 ping.
at this point im pretty much convinced its the bottlenecks that mess with people, which would mean that as low latency as possible isnt always the best for everyone no matter the gear? In which case a clear overview over when you are cpu/gpu bound/bottlenecked and how to adapt settings, would work better for people?
Lower input lag is actually better for everyone in terms of motor skills. This is a literal fact and i can anecdotally tell you this is also true for me personally. Then again i'm not an average person by any means.
I did it for 3 grand when the 2080ti came out, so you can do it today for less than 2.5k, have better specs & buy yourself a 2020 monitor as well for 3k.
wow you literally didn't understand a word that came out of that guys mouth. No monitor on the market will have a 1ms pixel response time covering every color transition. Input lag isn't pixel response time. Pixel response time "1ms" is how long it takes for a pixel on your screen to switch to another color. Input lag would be scanout frequency (hz/refresh rate) and display processing (extra lag to make the picture (frame) look better. 15ms is not the lowest possible input lag on a computer.
Great topic, but I'm still yet to see anyone explain it clear enough for the average gamer. People just don't understand, and I don't think this is going to get through to them.
Professional Gamers: I have godly aim Nvidia: No, your aim is actually harmed by the 1-4 ms latency between your mouse click and when it actually happens on your monitor.
I have 144hz and in some games i have 60fps but i tried to switch to 60hz but experience was terrible even with 60fps. differance felt like worth and having 40fps. Maus delay was terrible
perdon pero por hablar asi pero ahora tiene mas errores geforce now y ni fortnite anda bien y tengo una bueno pc me compre geforce now y ahora me estoy arepintiendo
what is system latency?
when your card arrives next year.
Exactly right! You release your card in September, and it becomes available in January the following year (if we're lucky). So 4 months of latency?
eh.. actually network latency. their fkn shipping network is taking too gdamn long
sick burn
@@shaneyt91 if you're lucky the supply won't arrive so u get back your money and don't shove it up nvidias arse u morons
Nvidia manufacturing and distribution latency. Helps sustain the highest prices possible. Gotta keep demand high as long as possible!
what is system latency?
when you release videos of your new gpu but 90% of the buyers cant have it lol
90%? how about 99%?
What do you want?
“Faster Hardware”-Sold Out
Itsnt sold out. For beeing sold out it need to be released 1st
SUP' 💀💀💀
it's okay I'm holding on to my 2080 ti for a while anyways...1st gpu I ever put a waterblock on (:
cuz next time I upgrade my GPU I'll also be upgrading from my LG 27GL850
Guys I think we needed Nvidia reflex to be able to buy the 3080 and 3090...
3 Weeks later and the 3080 is still out of stock Nvidia...
You are implying it was every truly *IN* stock... but I get your point. :D
@@lottexy and if you want the 4080 he had to wait until the 5080 is released and so on and so on...
Truly ...It feels bad ..I have money ...But can't get it ...No scope
Not sure if I should just wait till the 3080 super versions come out . But out of stock here as well , money to burn and nothing to buy.
@@mercyfaten01 Honestly I dont see them coming in stock for at least another year.
me playing games on 60hz and GTX 970: still somewhat wins some games and thinks I'm good at it
*after watching the video: so it was luck (starts playing against bots)
imagine using intel celeron 1.5ghz cpu with integtrated gfx in it. imagine playing minecraft at 22fps with only 2 chunks rendered at a time. imagine takking the 2gbs of ram out of a broken school chromebook and wanting to add it to ur pc bc ur pc so trash but then realizing it doesnt even have an open pcie slot. imagine being named wyatt honeycutt. pls kill me B)
What is "Launch Fail?"
Nvidia has left the chat.
2030: What is Brain Latency.
Thank you so much for the insight to competitive Gaming.
There are very few people who understand this information I can't wait to provide a accredited source of information to my teammates and friends.
"What is latency?"
me: *All I know is it will empty my wallet, dear NVIDIA*
Lol XD
@@seath-_-4076 LOL XD LMAO XDXDDDD HAHA
Your parents haven't bought you a wallet yet, you have nothing to worry about.
@@BewaniOgurec keep Liking your own comment, I love these kind of people lmao, What I said was a reference to their over priced shits that's it.
*Salary Latency*
That’s so awesome, thank you for explaining latency types, this was really easy to understand, my 6 year old niece loved it 🥰
Time to go see for myself with my RTX 3080 Founders edition! Oh wait.
pssst, u dont need a 3080 if u care about latency. CPU & ram matter far more than a GPU unless your playing above 1080p low which in that case you could logically justify buying a 3080, but then you'd be on a 1440p + monitor with higher latency already. It's not nvidias fault that there's a literal shortage of silicone and only one factory is operating right now.
@@zazabean23 2k monitor
Nice video , please make.more videos with Tony their quite good and you learn fun stuff. Still enjoying my 1080 ti and will be changing when the 4000 series come up . The 3000 are a nice upgrade but I wait for more vram
Really good job making it understandable for everyone
Damn missed first comment like i missed buying a card.
Remember this guy in computer chronicals? Where they were doing a segment on gaming pcs?
Man, he's come far
Very Informative,
Thank You
True gamer adapts and conquer system latency..
Great video thank you .. finally a real explanation
This is Awesome!!! Great job guys!!! All of this technology in the world of gaming is amazing!!!
Nice explination. Great job guys
Thanks for the explanation on the system latency and the nvidia reflex SDK hope it comes to more competitive games in the near future :D
Makes sense how I’ve been losing gunfights on cod
Yup
At least it's not as bad qs aim assist
Always better to have an engineer describe it than some hack who only thinks they understand it
2020: 15ms
Meanwhile 2023: looking for video 7ms to 1ms
Gpu escale or Display?
Which one is the best?
Do you guys have a solution for NVIDIA latency ?? aka the delay (measured in months) between the new product announcement & the actual availability of the product to general public
Very informative, I have to say I understand how my gpu functions now, thank you nvidia
Latency matters because we are here after loosing a call duty game
Can confirm latency issues.
Having a gaming laptop with i7 7th gen and GTX 1050 Ti while playing Apex Legends at 3-10Mbps with 60Hz screen is probably a great challenge. Now imagine getting better hardware and stable internet. That is where the real fun begins!
dont buy a 144hz , only go for 240hz and above.
@@zazabean23 why? Apex can barely reach that in high settings. Best is about 165 Hz at this point.
@@joelconolly5574 First off, don't go above 180 fps on apex. Their game engine is so dog shit and busted. Just 240hz and above. Don't play on high settings if u care about latency anyway.
I never really thought about system latency before the nvidia reflex trailer, and still didn’t believe it when I saw it but when I tried it I got a lot better headshot percentage.
1) Do not use Fortnite as a sample.
2) Do not undermine network latency as being a prevalent problem by completely disregarding the issue.
3) DO use samples of offline gameplay of amazing games(i.e. RDR2).
4) Finally and foremost, do not pretend anyone watching your video wasn't already going to buy your product.
p.s. I kept checking my playback speed because it was clearly sped-up prior to original upload.
what are you talking about. No one undermined network latency, you can't do much about it dude. They're focusing on what they can improve hur dur.
tq nvidia now i muchly understand the latency i just checked this video after i know about hardware accelerated gpu scheduling
Understanding Explanation......
Your linked guide in the description goes to a dead page!
That little nugget of gold about exclusive fullscreen - for games that are optimized.
In 2018 240hz had no ghosting
In 2023 240hz had more ghosting than 540hz 😂
Its not 100% something you fell but something that helps with response from clicks and also what you see
So this to help us also understand what reflex does
i just wanted to learn how to make windows 10 stop being slow
good luck on that lol
Lol you wont find that here they just want to sell their stuff and these videos are made accordingly
remove bloatware and check to see how bottlenecked your RAM/ CPU is
wow thanks for this video but no answers how to fix any of these things at all !!!!!!
You can release a video at 6am PST but not new stock for the 3080 :clownemoji:
error 404: logic not found
The Channel Name Should Be 'Nvidia Geforce Free School'.
People with the best latency will have the biggest advantage in competitive fps games
Thanks guys 👍
I have 1660 Ti, i5-9400F and 16GB ram (pre build pc) which nvidia reflex option is better? (in warzone)
I play on low settings (Texture normal and AA off)
use the reflex + boost.
Thanks if u can provide us with more documentation about the topic and the Ampere architecture
Thx for explaining
Very Cool! :D
I understand that latency also negatively affects *Virtual Reality* video games, I hope that this technology can also help improve the VR decreasing the uncomfortable and dizzy sensations while increasing the immersion of the virtual worlds.
Thank you very much Nvidia devs!!!!!!!!
What is latency?
Nvidia: When you shoot on a game and your PC crashes due to faulty PCB units on your RTX series 30XX graphics card.
Teammate's monitor latency and refresh rate: 0.1, 360hz.
Teammate's brain response time: 10 seconds and still blames me
Nvidia pls make your AI work with several common hardware setups to find the best scenario i.e. low latency in the most common games.
When I first started playing fortnite. Frame rate in replaymode was 5 Ms, at some time it was even less. In the last months it went up and up until it reached 12 Ms . Now with a just fresh reinstall after some non related issues, the frame rate is 8 to 11 Ms.
TFW all this doesn't matter when a server is 64 tick.
thanks for the knowledge...
Neat and informative, noice
Good to know, now I can yell at the proper reasons when I am losing.
The human mind can learn and adapt to it, working around latency, or lag
@@pixels_per_inch Working around it is what limits you, not caring about working around it would open many more possibilities.
Option's not showing up in Overwatch or Nvidia control panel. Reinstalled both driver and game, nothing. Was working in PTR the other day. Anyone got a fix? Can't find anything yet.
Does hdmi extender cause lag?
that's good to know.
never mind system latency...focus on product supply first!
That's not how that works. There's a literal shortage in the chips that make up CPU's and GPUS. Only one factory is operating right now. Do some research
Okay but why isn’t DLSS 2.0 on modern warfare
Thanks a lot finally I understand why it's hard to play fps game online
me with 30fps gameplay , see this video just "😀"
Really wish we had a properly designed OLED gaming monitor for that instant response from OLED along with nVidia's latency optimization.
Agreed, but input latency isn't that simple. There's other things that are consider "input lag" but wouldn't exactly be shown on paper. A lot of stuff can be down on a Operating System to reduce the latency and handle the inputs a lot better.
literally not possible
@@NobleVI_343 It is possible though. It already exists.
@@zazabean23 got a link?
Mine shows render present ltency 8.3
Is this good or bad?
Sold out
FYI If you have a good CPU you should use it to handle your connections, it's way faster then your NIC.
Great info!!! Keep it up NVIDIA. Thanks for informing us so we know what to look for.
People think that all of nvidia workers do only one thing at a time wtf
NICE. Can't wait to try out Nvidia Reflex on my new "RTX 3080 Founders Editi-.. Oh wait!
How to test pc latency
Benchmarks
So that's why I keep dying all the time lol
Nah, but you'd be a lot better with lower input lag.
Imagine this happening in milli seconds 😲
System latency is what Nvidia has since they can’t fkin drop any new cards @ 9am EST, but can always drop a video about a card no one can get
What if you shut up
wow nots sure if mine is correct but ingame latency say i get around 5ms-7ms playing valorant
5ms is reaching, but a 8-12ms is possible with high end gear and a tweaked operating system and peripherals.
Great video but due to not explaining the time frame of the latency clips really makes the clips useless
the amount of times i died to peakers advantage
the main issue for peekers advantage is lag compensation for network code. in their little demo, they were showing two systems, same network latency, but one with their nvidia reflex enabled to reduce latency, and the other with disabled. they are CREATING an issue, then solving it by saying "buy our gpu" to get more sales. in reality the biggest "fuck you" to us gamers are the games, aka all of them, which utilize a lag compensation system, so low ping players don't shit on high ping players.... quake 3 arena days were mint, 5 ping would shit on an entire server due to lowest latency. i remember having dial up and getting shit on because i had 50 ping. got comcast in the new house and bam, 5 ping, shit on everyone else.... i miss the days of ping advantage. and whats funny is, the whole point of lag compensation was to help have MORE gamers together to make servers more populated. except now there is easily 10x+ more gamers in the world playing pc gaming, so you don't NEED lag compensation to help fill servers. you can literally have east/middleus/west servers, and everyone would have a good time. but no, they use lag comp and put my east coast ass on a west coast server and the only time I can win is if i abuse peekers advantage.....
@@goblinphreak2132 Your reaction time is the biggest bottleneck. 2nd is input latency, and then network lag. If your ping is stable then it's not a huge deal, if it has high jitter and packet loss then it's a huge issue. I prefer to focus on my motor skills > network latency. I don't play videos games at the moment simply because my internet is so awful that it's actually pointless. I'm waiting until i get my 360hz and the atompalm mouse comes out and i move into my new house. I can't stand dying to fucking bots when i'm easily better.
Love the part where bottleneck scenarios are explained, good stuff!
I'm going to have to start reviewing cards again if I'm going to get new ones I guess. That is real latency. 360hz is marketing. The main problem now is not being able to host your own servers for games, and having to do crossplay in Warzone that adds so much latency that we are back to late 90s early 2000 ping.
so basically competitive gaming is now Pay To Win (or Pay To Gain Advantage over someone).
Life is pay to win, you also live in the beast debt slavery system.
at this point im pretty much convinced its the bottlenecks that mess with people, which would mean that as low latency as possible isnt always the best for everyone no matter the gear? In which case a clear overview over when you are cpu/gpu bound/bottlenecked and how to adapt settings, would work better for people?
Lower input lag is actually better for everyone in terms of motor skills. This is a literal fact and i can anecdotally tell you this is also true for me personally. Then again i'm not an average person by any means.
Already knew that you guys have told it thousand times.
Latency? oh, right the blender trick got it.
This is going to change fps games in a very good way
Gee I need a minimum five thousand dollar computer to keep up.
I did it for 3 grand when the 2080ti came out, so you can do it today for less than 2.5k, have better specs & buy yourself a 2020 monitor as well for 3k.
Will we get any uploads today?
I need something to admire
#UltimatePlay
So it's just trying to remove latency between player and a PC?
No, it removes the lateny between the gpu or cpu, as I understood
15ms the lowest ? isnt the 360hz monitor a 1ms monitor? how can u get lower?
wow you literally didn't understand a word that came out of that guys mouth. No monitor on the market will have a 1ms pixel response time covering every color transition. Input lag isn't pixel response time. Pixel response time "1ms" is how long it takes for a pixel on your screen to switch to another color. Input lag would be scanout frequency (hz/refresh rate) and display processing (extra lag to make the picture (frame) look better. 15ms is not the lowest possible input lag on a computer.
I love NVIDIA 🥰
Great topic, but I'm still yet to see anyone explain it clear enough for the average gamer. People just don't understand, and I don't think this is going to get through to them.
Professional Gamers: I have godly aim
Nvidia: No, your aim is actually harmed by the 1-4 ms latency between your mouse click and when it actually happens on your monitor.
So if I buy rtx 3090 and 240hz monitor does it mean that 赞玛努 Zhāngmànyù will actually get shot when I shoot him?
Imao
no, it just means you will die with less latency and in high definition
What is system latency? having to buy a low end card while waiting for the 30 series
I have 144hz and in some games i have 60fps but i tried to switch to 60hz but experience was terrible even with 60fps.
differance felt like worth and having 40fps. Maus delay was terrible
This is why Nvidia is cutting edge cuz they focus on miniscule details
Hello, i have an question
What is more better GeForce RTX 3090 or Quadro RTX 8000?
If your ping 200 + then your hardware does not matter
So i need potato pc to have advantage on peaking?
My 144hz feels really smooth already
Oh boi.. here we go again!
that was surprisingly very informative.
perdon pero por hablar asi pero ahora tiene mas errores geforce now y ni fortnite anda bien y tengo una bueno pc me compre geforce now y ahora me estoy arepintiendo