Well, when Corey Feldman went on Barbara Walters show in 2011 or so, and told of his assaults, all Walters had to say was "youre putting a black mark on an entire industry." All these Hollywood fcks are sick!
WOW. I think I'm going to make a tiktok about this honestly. I knew of victor salva being a predator but not the extent or that coppala was involved. It's all disgusting and sad how it was swept away.
@Jonathan Williams Lets separate the art from the person. Lots of questionable people are great artist. No way you can sit through Apocalypse Now and not say it isn't a masterpiece.
This is a quote from Coppola himself: “Only in retrospect did things really add up. You have to remember, while this was a tragedy, that the difference in age between Victor and the boy was very small -- Victor was practically a child himself.” (Actually, Salva was 29 to the boy’s 12.)” Pretty obvious that Coppola doesn’t think forcing a child to give you oral sex is a problem and he’s even (mistakenly) tried to downplay the ages of Salva and the boy to make it more acceptable. These fucking people…..
Never trust someone who wants to spend more time with your child than you do. Also, people thinking you're weird for suspecting someone, even if they haven't done anything (that anyone knows of) or hurting an adult's feelings or making them feel uncomfortable is not more important than your kid's safety. If something feels off, trust that feeling. Also, Salva isn't the only monster in this story; everyone who stood by him and supported him and ignored his conviction for SA-ing a child, are also complete pieces of human sewage. Completely hate Francis Ford Coppola now. Disgusting. Good on Nathan for being brave enough to tell his story! And thank you, dreading, for making a video on this horrific story, one that I was completely unaware of.
it's truly a terrible tragic reality that most perpetrators of SA against children are known to the victim and tend to be a family member or close family friend. You're absolutely right, regardless of how nice someone seems, it's a big red flag if they want to spend that kind of alone time with your child like that.
Only my parents have my children, sorry but I may be overprotective but I would rather that than my children be abused by someone. I do not trust anyone and I will continue to be the same!
In retrospect, this all plays out in the Jeepers films. There’s a dark, frightening man, a “creep”, who essentially hunts down attractive young men. He even gets an erotic thrill from sniffing them, before taking them away to have his way with them. There are all these homo-erotic shots of young male bodies. Of course, I didn’t really notice when I first watched, and didn’t know about the abuse until more than 10 years after watching the movies. What really shocks me is Copolla, who I used to hero worship. Salva’s “mistakes” were made when he was in his 30’s and the victims were minors. Creeper indeed.
Roger Ebert noted that Jeepers Creepers 2 was oddly homoerotic, pointing out a particular scene in which a group of four or five teenage boys stand side by side in a row while one of them pees. The in-universe explanation was that the peeing boy was scared to be alone with a monster on the loose, but Ebert noted the composition was unnatural.
@@karaoconnoraliasraidra That’s interesting! Notice the adults all get ‘whisked away’, literally and then the Creeper is only interested in the males, sniffing, penetrating and then taking them away or consuming them. The worst part is the first 2 are actually decent horror films. It’s amazing what you don’t notice when you are young and naïve.
@@randchuck2492 I don’t think so. It’s all quite obvious, in retrospect. I didn’t even know Americans call pervs ‘creepers’. I just lost my naivety, did some film studies and learned some critical thinking is all.
I really hope Nathan is doing okay I truly feel sorry for him what that monster did to him not only ruined his childhood but also his career in the industry
Nate didn't help himself, by spending so much energy whinging over the fact that his wee-wee got diddled a couple of times when he was 9, and so little on mastering his craft as an actor. This is no less absurd than Congolese women, who endlessly bemoan the fact that they ended up in the middle of a gang bang put on by the local militia. all because said gang bang wasn't 100% consensual. If these broads had any idea just how much effort us Westerners put into making ourselves candidates for getting laid, they'd be grateful for the service that those militias are providing to run of the mill women like themselves, free of charge
No, it ruined his life. Nathan is my cousin and is a hard drug addict and has been since he was a teenager. He also sexually abused my sister and others in my family, as he was the oldest of all the children, the behavior he learned from Victor trickled down. Our moms are to blame as well, as they did a terrible job protecting us and constantly allowed dangerous people into our lives and had little interest in what was really going on in our lives. Because of what happened to Nathan, I was sexually abused from as early as I could form memories, so I'm thinking since I was 1 years old, because I have memories of sexual abuse at the age of 2. My family thinks of Nathan as the only one who was wronged, but they ignore the fact that it got to all of us.
@@piemuggs Give Nate credit where it's due: He provided your sis with a live-fire tutorial in the erotic, something that's tough to come by, in this stifled and prudish culture we inhabit. She was almost certainly rocked the world of the many boys in junior high she pulled into bed, thanks to all the techniques Nate had taught her
I was 30 years old when my abuser went to his knees and apologised! It was at a family gathering and he was drunk! It gave me great pleasure to loudly say, “Based on the fact that you threatened me if I told an adult, It must be hard to look in the eyes of an adult who knows exactly what you are!” And THAT is what these creeps forget …. at some point they will have to face their adult victims! Although it didn’t make any difference in this instance! According to recent revelations, the whole film industry is full of paedophiles! May Salva and his supporters rot in hell!
I'm very sorry for what you went through. I wish they would put them to death already. There is no rehabilitation once they ruin someone's life in that way. In my opinion, they don't deserve a second chance for something that drastic.
I wish I could do the same. I can’t even go to Thanksgiving and other family gatherings anymore because my abuser has started showing up to them and it makes me so uncomfortable having him smile in my face and try talking to me like nothing ever happened.. He has a wife and kids now and it would create so many problems if I were to bring things into light. I woke up to it happening while sleeping, so after so many years of telling myself it was a nightmare I’ve started to believe maybe it just was.. but idk it felt so real and it instantly gives me shudders every time it comes to mind. I guess I’ll have to take this one to the grave unfortunately..
I don't understand how sentences can be reduced for sex crimes, let alone sex crimes against MINORS. Sexual predators should not get released early for "good behavior" and there should be a minimum sentence of 10 years for any crime involving a minor. not only did he have cp in his possession he also created it, how can someone that vile only serve 15 months of an already reduced sentence?! disgusting.
Sit though a couple of court cases in a day. You will see all attorneys and layers and all the judicial staff know each other. It's all about who you know and those players making deals with each other. Every now and then you get a good apple. But money buys you the best story telling spinner and liars
The idea of "good behaviour" in prison following sex crimes against women and children feels particularly unfounded. Easy to be "good" when your victims of choice aren't available to you :(
Nathan Winters is a badass for outing Victor Salva in spite of the risks. Any other person that looks down on him for being a victim is a monster. Especially other men.
I think a lot of people don't understand what you pointed out about the parents being groomed as well. Too often we all scream "How could the parents be so blind? How could they let this happen?" as what the predator is doing to the parents is barely ever discussed. Who is going to think someone would spend literal *years* to work up to something like that and just to get to your child? I imagine even if you did have suspicions the others adults around you would think you had lost your mind and were overly paranoid. They have their camouflage so perfectly in place that a parent would probably start think they are crazy themselves. I needed to hear this perspective. It has helped me understand so much as to how and why this can happen right under their noses.
Honestly I can only blame parents who know and do nothing and parents who know about someone’s crimes against children and STILL let their kids around them.
I think these parents are just deeply in denial and care more about “social niceties” than the safety of their children. Why wait for your your child to say “yes the relationship is inappropriate”. They are a child and may not even understand what inappropriate is? Having her banned from set should have been a sign enough. If I had suspicions, and noticed any change in my child’s behavior - I’m separating them 🤷🏻♀️ I hope more people realize that it’s hard for people to realize they are “victims” while the abuse is active 😔 they are likely still in shock / dissociation / disbelief.
Yeah, as I sit here babysitting my friend’s two kids, I think I’m doing much the same as that creep did…everything but the abuse. My friend trusts me with her kids and I am trustworthy…but if I was a creep, how would she know? We know and trust each other, my kid has had sleepovers at her house, her kids have stayed over at my house…and if one of us was a creep, how would we have seen or known or realized? What would be different?
@@Andreamom001 exactly. And if the parents were abused as kids themselves, they often dismiss any gut feelings or suspicions they might have as being in their heads. Like, they're just being paranoid because they were abused and are fckd in the head. And predators can be incredibly good at manipulation and gaslighting.
his mom did as much as any parent could be expected to, and his response was the response he was trained to give, and that's kinda the problem with the way we raise our kids today. we really messed up when we decided that we needed to focus on the nuclear family so hard, more hands makes lighter work, and more eyes on a kid makes abuse harder.
I still can't believe that the family had to pay $100,000 because they went to the police about their son being sexually abused. Just goes to show you, our whole society revolves around money, and the well-being of people, even young children, isn't deemed nearly as important as stacks of money. We live in a sick, sick culture.
That is what happens when a society abandons morality and belief in a higher power, the material is what matters when that happens and whats more material than money? It is true in the past that people were motivated by money but it was less so.
Woody Allen molested his daughter and groomed his stepdaughter Roman Polanski was convicted of raping a 14 year old R Kelly filmed himself raping a middle schooler Hollywood knows and doesn't care.
I'm less sorry for the parents than Nathan. I mean, they had 2 children so "they had their hands full"? I know we are all more cynical now but how many parents drop the ball because they want a free babysitter or are dazzled by celebrity. Thankfully they did take action but their child had already been abused by the time they started to take note.
@@fiona-lyons the hand full comment in the video seemed to be quoting Salva, not the parents. The parents were groomed too, Nathan discusses that explicitly in the interview
@@fiona-lyons It is despicably inconsiderate to blaming his parents for not being able to prevent something from happening. In fact, the mom was trying to affect behavior on set such that she was removed. She kept trying, and kept trying until they got Salva convicted. Do you think that this was his first victim? I don't. But I can see that this was the first time parents took action on actionable facts. I'm sad for your perspective, and my heart goes out to Nathan AND his parents.
I simply could not believe that I'd never heard of this, and called my mom after I finished the video. She knew of Salva and his films, but likewise hadn't heard of this, or Coppola's involvement. This is such an important story to tell and ensure that these injustices aren't forgotten. Another fantastic video, huge props to you for taking the monetisation hit to share this information.
Totally I had known Salva was the director for Jeepers Creepers but I didn't know he had also done Powder I remember hearing that the Jeepers Creepers guy was actually creepy so I stopped watching the films But now hearing that Coppola was and is close to him even after the truth came out sickens me to no end It like it's one thing to boycott a relatively small director who has at least a few known movies But there are classes dedicated to studying Coppola’s films and how he directs You can actually lose friends if you say you didn't care for the Godfather films Other than just trying to get people to listen and understand that while hopefully, Coppola hasn't done the same as Salva he has shown complicity to the crimes Salva has committed by remaining friends with him Omg just got to the part where Coppola blamed the kid over the full-grown man? And threatened to sue Nathan’s family
@@HealthyObbsession Not "threatened to sue." He actually sued them for breach of contract and they had to pay him (or their professional insurance company had to pay him) 100,000$. FFC is a true, despicable douchebag.
Funny, because I'm sure other moron's who worked with this pedophile will also say "I simply can not believe that I've never heard of this"....Right....
That's the Hollywood stuff, keep stuff quite but now all stuff that happened anywhere can be pulled up and put out here for us to see. Thanks for these platforms.
What always stunned me was how his film _Powder_ was basically a vehicle for him to complain about being rejected by society...for *abusing children.* Seriously, when you read the synopsis it's disturbing how blatant it is. Shows he isn't even slightly sorry for the evil he's done and the pain he's caused.
Shockingly (to me) I'd had no idea about the associations w/that movie...all I knew was that something about it gave me the creeps when I saw just a clip of it just before I was pregnant w/my son...tho I DID know it was Disney & I already knew not to trust them. Bloody hell, your name is bang-on...thinking of changing mine to either Hell-In-A-Handbasket or People-SUCK-Animals-R-Better (w/props to my Granny on BOTH). .....Never surprised when an animal injures me (saw it coming - my bad), but people keep rocking me to my core. ....animals just do what they do, people are fkng EVIL...even a rabid dog doesn't GROOM its victims.
yea he clearly believes he’s the true victim in all of this and clearly doesn’t care about the children he abused not once has he apologized instead it’s just like a “i made a mistake… move on” type of situation
@@deadpoolguy283 Yeah they're an evil company....a children's network that sues preschools for licencing fee because the teachers drew their characters for the kids.
So glad to see this case brought to an audience outside of the horror community. The story was hidden in plain sight for far too long and this predator was allowed to flourish, and continues to work in an industry that ignored his well known proclivity for abuse. This is an important video.
Yikes. Salva clearly has no remorse and makes himself the victim, and Coppola's treatment of the actual victim is also reprehensible. I haven't been a fan of Coppola as a human being for a while; for a while; in the early 1980s, he dangled the promise of a role in one of his movies to adult film actress Shauna Grant, who wanted to break into mainstream acting. She was his guest at some adult industry events and parties, but he strung her along and never cast her -- a possible factor in her self-un-aliving.
That’s horrendous because because it made her feel like, she wasn’t good enough for mainstream and I wouldn’t be surprised if he took s.. advantage of her, promising her the part
Francis Ford Coppola was such a monster. I hope people spread this story everywhere. There is no way someone like that should get away with doing so much more harm to a victim and giving so much cover to a proven perpetrator.
@@cheeriosforhonkies8867 Only as an extra on one of the Godfather movies. He later changed his name so that he could make his own career without the Coppola name
Marcia Lucas who was the ex-wife of George Lucas and fellow friend and editor to many of the New Hollywood (Scorsese, Spielberg, De Palma, etc.) said while editing one of Coppola's movies saw him openly cheating on his wife with no regards to what his wife thought
@@porkchopproductions0314 I mean, that’s literally a dime of a dozen in Hollywood. FFC is a symptom of a greater sickness in Hollywood-it’s a ring of scum protecting each other because *everyone* would likely collapse if justice were mete in full.
Victor Salva’s “official” backstory is like a cliché storm of manufactured victimhood angst. Probably just one long excuse to avoid accountability for his own disgusting actions. Francis Ford Coppola should be ashamed of himself.
Nah... Coppola's skillful maneuvering of the legal system ultimately blessed us with a masterful flick like Jeepers Creepers I. Our culture wouldn't have been so enriched, had we instead acted like a bunch of pussies, by boo hoping over an 8th rate Maculay Culkin wannabe's wee wee being diddled a few times. Let's not pretend that he, like most kids in America, wasn't going to be engaging in acts far more demented anyway, when he entered junior high a few years later
Those clichés are real for a reason there are many bad fathers and step fathers. My mother was a pole stroller with a fetish for criminals and constantly gas lit me and my siblings about them. That being said I could never harm a minor for any reason backstory is not an excuse to become a monster. I'm just trying to say that he very well could have been abused it's not an excuse
I hope the parts about Coppola become more well-known by the general public. Abusers AND their accomplices need to be held accountable, especially when they're so revered and lauded as Coppola is.
The way Hollywood is, makes me wonder if Coppola is child groomer as well if he’s willing to back this creep. A normal person would of dropped him a moved on.
Hollywood is literally run by pedophiles, it’s not a surprise Coppola did all of this for him. People are unwilling to face the reality of how much ritual child sex abuse happens among the powerful and elite in societies globally.
I was vaguely aware of Victor because of Dead Meat and James’ strong stance on not covering the Jeepers Creepers movies. Actually insane how this man was continuously given the opportunity to abuse children. Disgusting.
@@VasManHorrorLivesMatter Welp time to avoid another movie of his. Sad too. I love Keanu Reeves and Winona Ryder. Though only Dracula I’ve seen Dead Meat do was the Dracula with Bela Lugosi.
It's ok tbf, the design of the monster is what sells it imo, the movie in itself is pretty generic and forgettable. The 2nd one is dumber but works also better, it fully embraces the B movie side of it and puts stupid teens in it to get more action than the first one, but overall a freaking pedo has made those, I can't watch them without thinking of that and these movies should never have existed in the first place, this guy had to rot in prison and never be in the film industry ever again, this industry is disgusting 🤮
@@gabrielelatorre22 I primi 2 sono divertenti ma non'è che siano il massimo del horror, il mostro e le scene splatter sono fatto bene, il terzo pero è una schifezza senza nome e Reborn non ne parliamo neanche. Pero mi sembra strano che Coppola ha preso la difesa di quello la, è proprio un regista qualunque.
I did hair on a movie called "Rosewood Lane" that Victor directed in 2011. If I'd known about this at the time, I would never have worked on it. He was a nice guy and I enjoyed working with him, which just goes to show how easy it is for predators to walk among us.
I've always been fascinating by that. If I read you correctly, you are saying that as someone who was around him at the time, he did not give off any 'creeper' vibe (no pun intended,) or exhibit any kind of questionable behavior? Not even bad jokes? Weird stories? Anything? I only ask because I suspect that this is the case, where pedos know who to act appropriately around, in case they ever need a character witness, or something like that. They know how to also groom bystanders to believe the best in them?
@@superhotnutjob yes, exactly this. When I look back on it, I guess I can see certain things, insecurities and such, and he had talked about an incident that he considered a mistake, but I never thought in a million years that that "mistake" he talked about so casually was being a pedophile (and getting caught). We cracked jokes with each other. We talked about our traumatic childhoods with each other. We bonded over being the fat kid growing up. He's very good at bonding with people and coming off as non-threatening. When I worked with Mark on Glee, he gave me a bad vibe. Victor didn't.
@@twocuteweirdos Hey you know that's kinda funny how you bring that up because I was actually watching Rosewood Lane not too long ago and thought it was pretty decent to be honest. I know there was a few well known actors such as Bill Fagerbakke and Lin Shaye in it but I actually have a question for you if you don't mind. While you were working on the movie behind the scenes with the filmcrew or whatever you did exactly, on the set did you happen to meet the actor Ray Wise who was in that film because if so you are lucky. I'm a big Ray Wise fan and that's the reason why I was watching Rosewood Lane in the first place because I like to watch films with him in it. He's my favorite
It's sick how the parents were sued and had to pay. It is horrendously sick that they can put a clause in a contract, "if a child is molested they can't call the police." They should be arrested for that alone. They're basically saying it's happening and is going to happen. WTH!
I'm not defending FFC or Sylva in any way, but you have to know that wasn't the clause, right? They don't word it illegally. They'll put a clause that says "if your kid misses more than an hour of required time, we can sue you." Then they say that the time that the kid and the family took to do whatever they needed to do to report and stop the crime from happening is time away from required time, and they can sue. For example, if the clause is "can;t refuse required rehearsal time," and the kid refused to rehearse, because rehearsing meant being alone in a trailer with their abuser, they would still be seen as a breach of contract. Again, I'm not defending these practices. I'm just pointing out that a lot of people go through micro-grooming behaviors when they are in the periphery of an abuser. We are all often guilty of missing some "orange flags" when we are around someone who abuses people. So... one last time... not defending, just saying we all have a hand in exposing abusers. That's all...
"You have to remember, while this was a tragedy, that the difference in age between Victor and the boy was very small -- Victor was practically a child himself.” Francis Ford Coppola
Nathan is the hero here, with the guts to stand up and expose at his own expense a true monster like SALVA. Shows just how demented some folks in Hollywood are when it comes to dealing with PAEDOS.
Nathan doesn't hate Victor. He does not hold a grudge against him. He said "I'm not speaking out to stop Victor from working or making movies, I'm here to stop him from having access to children, I don't care if people enjoy his movies that's up to them"
@@sonofagreatsouthernland because no one knows about how Nathan feels about Victor now. People are asking things like Does he Forgive him? I'm just saying this in case some people don't know
I don't know if you take requests but if you're taking a crack at the dark side of filmmakers or the business, the incident regarding John Landis and the Twilight Zone Movie is still so tragic that its considered a taboo to talk about it in the industry to this day. What's worse is that Landis, despite being as culpable as possible for three needless deaths (two of them children) and many more maimed, is still a free man.
I remember hearing about Victor Salva and his chumship with Coppola. I was surprised at Coppola. But later, when Sofia started making movies, particularly her most recent film about a father romancong his daughter, she said: _"The film at its heart is a romance - but an unexpected one - it's between father and daughter. That man who takes you to a restaurant and treats you in a certain way is a precursor to what you look for in a partner."_ I saw the movie and thought that maybe she was "daddy's little girl", too.
I did not know this story before. Jesus. Thank you for calling it the recorded sexual abuse of children instead of child porn. I used to work in San Francisco and both Nicholas Cage and his dad, August Coppola were my customers. Nic was a fabulous, kind, funny man (I got to go to his house once and it was sooo cool) but his dad was one of the most dislikable people I have ever met. I guess the brothers Francis and August were birds of a feather. Yikes.
Thank you, thank you for making this video! As a survivor of CSA, it's critical that we keep these criminals in the public eye. My belief is that they CANNOT be rehabilitated and need life sentences, without the possibility of parole. I'VE paid for my perpetrators' crimes my ENTIRE LIFE, why shouldn't they. Therapy helps, but there is no true healing from this type of evil.
I'm sorry that happened to you, but that is a bad idea. I've heard lawyers say that life sentences encourage homicide. This is a complex issue that that can't be solved by something as simple as increasing levels of punishment. Most of these crimes are committed by close family members, and it would only serve to deter victims coming forward due to not wanting to send their fathers to prison for life or worse.
Unfortunately they are a protected group. I'm pretty sure they actually belong to a old "religion" that went underground long ago. A secret society, etc. They seem to occupy top positions in government and authority... They "run" our governments/systems etc. We need to become "fearless vampire killers" so to speak. (yes, that's a bit dramatic lol, but you know what I mean)
Agree, they should also have to lose the "tool" they use to SA children. If they did that, i guarantee less men will do that to children, same goes for women that do that to kids. It sounds harsh but in ancient Greece they did that and most men avoided doing that because of fear they would lose their parts. Sadly i had a friend that did a terrible thing to his step-sister and i have nothing to do with him. Especially now that i have a small child. He was my best friend and never thought he could ever do that. He's in there for 15 years but could be out earlier with good behavior. And because he was an adult that committed the crime, he will have to register when he gets out. Even though he was mine and my fiancé's best friend, i hope nothing but the worse for him. I also think they shouldn't be in protective custody, they should be in general population so it's easy for them to be brutally punished by those that hate those actions.
The entire Francis Ford Coppola involvement has really been kept quite under the radar. I can't believe this is the first time I've heard about this despite having come back to revisit this case a handful of times over the years.
Can we talk about how heartbreaking it is for Nathan?! Not only was he assaulted by this man but on top of that he was ROBBED of his dream to be an actor. Imagine losing your job to the person who molested you… as an innocent boy.. 🤦♂️
The sfx shop I work for was approached for work for the newest jeepers creepers movie. I told my boss I'd have absolutely no part of it and he said he agreed and turned them down, thankfully.
I remember when the allegations came out! My family was literally about to leave to go see Powder but as I was getting ready my mom came in my room and said “we’re not going, we’re not seeing it” and she refused to go. She explained why and I don’t know how she found out so suddenly since internet was still very new and she never used it so she must have heard about his protest somehow and believed him. So his voice was heard!
@@SuperWolsey Yes he did and I gotta say after knowing what he’s done and then rewatching it there are SO many very uncomfortable shots and moments in the movie! Same with Jeepers Creepers 2, the boys are practically shirtless for no reason throughout most of the movie and they hold onto those shots for way too long like there’s a scene where at least 5 of the teenager boys are on top of the bus sun tanning and they hold onto that shot for a while, I use to think it was just to give us girls some eye candy like they do for guys but now it’s just uncomfortable and I see it differently now. I love both those 2 Jeepers Creepers films and now they are so hard to watch.
people keep saying "allegations" and "accusations" but at that point it was neither of those things, the guy was an ex con pedo and had already been convicted by the time he made that movie.
He isn't standing up to anyone he is doing it for profit...it's his job...I can not stand people like you who throw the hero card around....people who work the front lines (police officers,fire fighters,emt etc) are heros for instinct but a TH-cam creator getting a check is NOT ONE.
I came from a very abusive household . Going to the movies has also been my escape and still is. If you are young and are being abused by your parent tell someone . I never spoke to anyone about what I was going through growing up. It deeply effected me. Mostly in lowering my self esteem and ability to focus on goals to better myself. Don’t protect your parents . Protect yourself. You are worth it.
Oh my God. 😢😢😢 I'm so very sorry hun. 🙏🏽 I hope you have sought help for your peace of mind & self worth. This truly breaks my heart.💔 I absolutely hate anyone that harms children & wish them nothing good in their lives!! As one in the field of education for 28 years, I'm sorry that it wasn't noticed by the teacher. Thank you for the important advice & for sharing your very personal story. Please take care of yourself. 🙏🏽❤️
Convicted child r_pist Polanski also did the same. In his movie Chinatown, he made the ped0 character get away with this crimes. These people are sick in the head for carrying out their twisted fantasies in their own movies.
I think there were a few lawsuits that came out of the original Jeeper’s Creepers set… Nathan was far and away from his only victim, but he seems to be the only one willing to speak about it. How brave of Nathan to continue to fight against both of these creeps. 🖤
It makes me sick that I thought Salva was such a talented horror writer/director when he was really getting turned on by directing the half dressed boys in clownhouse. Salva did an amazing job covering this up, I’ve been reading, watching tru crime for over 30 years and I’ve never heard of this. He’s a sick bastard.
This is why i hate it when i hear “but she withdrew her accusations” Yeah no shit, when millions and millions of dollars are on the table people tend to coerce victims to “let it go”
Honestly, this case bothers me the most of any film industry sex abuse scandal. At least with most of the others, you can kind of understand how they got away with messed up stuff for years due to being famous etc. but this is a guy who was pretty much an unknown at the time of his crimes and spend the bulk of his career getting projects funded after everyone already knew he was a sexual abuser.
3 years?! He got 3 years after everything being documented and to add salt to the wound he only served 15 months?! I never understand how the justice system low balls these cases when there’s proof that they groom children but having weed can sentence you to life! Shame on the adults blaming a literal child for not knowing they were being groomed. I know they wouldn’t have said that if they were put in that horrible situation!
yeah because he went to a treatment facility? the only "treatment facilities" that are effective for degenerates like this are of the Auschwitz variety
@@slamfreepoetry1845 You almost had a good point if you didnt make it all bs by starting about the freemasons. And why its called criminal justice? Well, its getting justice against criminals, is that so hard to understand?
It goes state to state, district to district. Some places you'll serve a few years for serious s*x crimes, others you'll be lucky to not leave in a box.
You are so respectful to the victims(direct witnesses and the loved ones), and ethical with your reporting and portrayal of the abusers/killers. I really appreciate it as a victim who has been subjected to true crime arm chair detective/pop psychologists revictimizing us. You are a true diamond in the rough.
Couldn't agree with you more. I hate the videos that give this terrible content "the Hollywood treatment." The thing I live most about this channel is that it doesn't need a spooky soundtrack, or fucking graphics of the abusers eyes peering around threateningly, like I saw in another video a few weeks back. This is truly shaping up to be the new JCS! And I couldn't be more excited for the quality content to come!
There's a commentary track with Salva and the cast on jeepers creepers 2 and he has the kid actor that dies in the opening scene with them throughout the commentary, it's really weird and makes you wonder what would've happened if they were alone.
They do that a lot. I remember seeing a video that had a tour of one of the tv networks studios. There was a guy that owned or ran it, and he had a very young Asian boy with him. This dude was an old creepy white guy. That footage haunts the hell out of me.
Thank you everyone for your continued support and open disgust and dialogue on the trauma that my family and I all were forced to endure. Throughout Victors career my family and I have fought to keep the truth in circulation with the sole intent being the continued protection of every child and prevention CSA as it is rampant in our society and so true in my case glossed over and made to seem as something trivial and less severe as it truly was. Not only was FFC Salvas biggest supporter but a public liar as well. Like so many others in the industry. They have continuously coddled Victor and made bs excuse after bs excuse for his sickness and the abuse I suffered for nearly six years of my young life. The ex CEO for Disney Michael Isner I believe it was publicly lied and went on to say that the abuse consisted of a one time inappropriate touching incident between an adult and a consenting minor. Which paints a much different picture in the minds of the less informed. He intentionally lied and made it seem as though this was between a young adult and someone very near the legal age. When in fact at the time of his arrest Salva was 29 and I was a math away from my 12th birthday. FFC then went on to in a public statement claiming that Victor was practically a child himself when the abuse took place. Fact and truth: I was 6 when Victor was 23 and began abusing me on a regular. He was charged with 11 counts of child molestation including oral copulation with a child under 14 and filming oral copulation with a child under 14. However, thanks to FFC and Hollywood money(as well as a good deal of misinformation and straight up lying to my parents by MY attorney Stan Casper)Salava was given a plea bargain dropping 7 of the most severe charges and convicted on only the 4 lesser charges. Which granted him a laughable sentence of 3 years for a crime that took him 6 years to commit. Of which he served a mere 15 months in a rehabilitation treatment facility in Napa Valley California. Truth and fact is Victor never spent a single moment in a real prison and truth fact had a movie deal waiting for him upon his release from the cushy treatment facility. Fact and truth FFC told me to my 12 year old face that I would never work in the industry again and I never did. Thank you sincerely on behalf of myself and all those closest to me. Keep the truth alive and spread the truth like a wildfire. Please remember that education is prevention. The more you can learn about CSA and what to look for in predators as well as tell tail signs in victims the better your chances are at stopping it. If interested in more information you can expect more from me in the very near future including a documentary, a non-profit called “we r their voice” as well as a speaking tour to help educate and prevent CSA titled “Taking Action, Breaking Silence” or T.A.B.S. For short. It is time for us to evict this common attitude our culture has adopted that “it’s not my child, it’s not my problem.” Because that couldn’t be further from the truth. As adults we all, everyone of us have an obligation and responsibility to protect every child be it our own or not. That is where our future lays. In our children and what kind of message are we giving to them if we won’t fight to keep them all safe?
Hi Nathan I am also a victim of severe abuse growing up. I can understand what you went through because of the dysfunctional people who have abused me. Regards Peter
My heart breaks for the childhood you lost. Idk you but I’m proud of you for continuing to advocate for yourself and all other children that have had to endure this horrific experience and suffering. I wish for you and your family all the best life has to offer and health, happiness and peace 🕊️
@@BabyBoy_Milo Especially since he has to RELIVE that nightmare by coming forward. I saw him on the Leeza show in the 90's and he held himself pretty well and seemed so brave
The famous horse-head scene in The Godfather (directed by Coppola) is also in the book, but the movie cut out the detail that Woltz, the director, is a child molester. Hmm.
Coppola is such a staple in film, and until today I had respected him based on what I learned in my film classes. Enablers of predators like this deserve equally harsh punishments (and not the slap on the wrist that resulted in this case). They both needed to be locked away from the public. Throw away the key. Absolutely disgusting.
At this stage I just assume that everyone in those big conglomerates within entertainment industry, like Hollywood or BBC, is sick. They'd all happily cover for each other and sell the fantasy of glamour, art and finesse, when in reality, it's all built on greediness, hunger for power and willingness to abuse vulnerable persons just to feel better about themselves. People sell their own dignity, or even worse, dignity of their children, just to become famous and wealthy - there's nothing more pathetic.
For all we know he's actually a pred himself, again we're talking Hollywood here, I've come to assume most of these mfers are all sick I'm the head, and I wouldn't be surprised if Coppola's name appeared on a certain passed individuals flight logs..
Makes you wonder how normalized it was (and still is), that so many big names in the industry dismiss these crimes as not that big a deal. The Harvey Weinstein situation made it very clear that pretty much everyone working in the industry knew what a disgusting pig he was. I just don't want to think about what was going on during the 70's, 80's Even today, who knows what fresh hell is happening with all the influencer kids and teens...
I’m 51 and I was molested at 3 and again at 12-17. This absolutely sickens me. I would say that Hollywood should be ashamed, but they are not. As we have seen time and time again there are little to no consequences for these type of crimes. I smile just a little that he got his a** beat in prison. This is not how you protect children by letting a predator just roam free.
Hollywood has covered for child predators for years. Everyone in Hollywood knew Michael Jackson was sleeping with little boys but nobody ever spoke out against it and some people have been criticized for daring to speak out against the “King of Pop”.
#metoo I am so sorry, I hope you have found your peace. It is stories like this that remind me why some of us did not tell, who would believe us, who would really care. I just remember loosing all trust in humanity on that night. The scars last forever.
@@blackdogfive Thank you so much. I’m in therapy. Not let me shock you. I don’t have a relationship with the woman that gave birth to me.( she is not a mother)!!! She is still married to the man that did those things to me to this day! She has said IF he did things to me it’s because I was flirting with him. Are you f****** serious🤦🏾♀️ And he has since said that he did something inappropriate to me one time🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️ Am I correct about you being shocked!
I seriously do not understand how these people get away with these disgusting, unthinkable acts. And not only get away with doing it, BUT THEN CAN ACTUALLY TURN IT AROUND ON THE VICTIMS. Our justice system is so ass backwards and it's getting worse as time goes on. It infuriates me on another level and even moreso that I can't do anything about it. Thank you for your hours and hours of hard work and research to make this information public and bringing light to these cases.
@@NinjaDildoShow it sounds very familiar. Not sure if I've seen/read anything on it but I've definitely seen the name before. Was it some type of social experiment having to do with children? Or am I mistaking it for something else?
@@NinjaDildoShow oh wait no I have not seen it but I just searched it here on TH-cam and I've seen the thumbnail for a video on it multiple times that's why it sounds so familiar. Watching it now
How many judges and politicians in office right now were alive when racism, hatred, and child abuse/molestation were openly accepted? This behavior was common until the 1980s.
This video made me SO ANGRY. Hearing his words said out loud enraged me UGH thank you for making this video. I will tell everyone I know how horrific Coppola is as well. He’s just as much of a monster.
Bordering on worse because an abuser can only ever abuse a limited number of victims. An accomplice/helpful by-stander can help as many abusers, as one abuser has victims. Yeesh... it's despicable to think about.
Coppola is so damn old that it doesn’t even matter at this point. I get what you mean, but it’s waaay too late to make any difference (as far as Francis Coppola goes…)
@@viciousdope66 His legacy can be ruined, and he can see it be ruined before he leaves this earth. People like him long for a good legacy/reputation once they’re gone, so it would be good for him to know that won’t happen so he has some semblance of consequences for aiding a child predator.
@@viciousdope66 I disagree, its never too late baby. His name should be tarnished forever and he should get as much heat as possible for it now while he still has access to oxygen.
I love that your channel sparks so much conversation amongst people with the same interests. The comments are usually worth the conversation about protecting yourself and your loved ones. Thank you for your videos
jeepers creepers was once my favorite horror movie; i had learned about the director not that long ago, but i had no idea he has continued to get work despite his crimes. this case is what really challenged my own morals regarding “separating the art vs the artist” because of how much i loved the movies and the creeper character. to this day the only way i’ll watch the movies are on thrifted dvds, as much as i love the work, the man behind it is deplorable in the most literal sense. there can be ethical ways to consume content from bad people, but i think its important to continue to talk about what salvo has done. thank you for always talking about the things people often forget about, or have never even heard about.
Rewatched jeepers creepers 2 recently and nearly every teenage boy has their shirt off at some point there’s even a shot where all the boys are laying topless on top of a bus it’s really disturbing rewatching it now knowing what type of person the director is was he really interested in making the film or was he just using it as an excuse to fulfil some vile fantasy
If you notice in both JC 1 & 2, Jeepers seems to like “eating” boys/men far more than females. And in part 1, Jeepers enjoys sniffing Darry’s underwear, in which the waitress said he “sure was liking it”, or in part 2 when his eyes roll back in his head before he licks the window after choosing most of the guys/males on the bus.
This is really an infuriating case. He calls it a "mistake". A mistake is to put salt instead of sugar in your coffee and not to plan on s#xually abusing children.
watch this narcissist smirking when the microphone is in front of him, yet when the microphone is removed he stops smirking & holds his breath, it shows how narcissists feed off attention, completely oblivious to how they come across or are perceived
As a horror fan especially of Jeepers Creepers I wondered why there wasn't a Dead Meat killcount. James Janisse made me abit aware of this weirdo but you really broke it down to make me understand how much a monster this guy is. I never heard of the Clown house movie, but hearing these details makes me never want to. Thanks for the information.
Yeah, Victor Salva is very much rejected by the horror community. Everyone I know in the UK community knows what he has done and despises him, rags on his lack of skill and he's banned from every film festival and most cinemas.
That’s simply not true, the contract probably stated something to the effect of not contacting police for any incidents on set without first consulting the production company.
@@tom2tones223 exactly. They tucked it into some other clause. I'm sure those contracts are so long. Nathan's family lawyer just said "it's good to sign." IF they even had one..
I was never big on Jeepers Creepers, then I heard about Salvas actions and I really didn't care to watch it. Honestly, the fact that he served such a short amount of time and is still able to work is sad and disgusting. I saw an interview on the guy he molested as a kid. Hope he recovers.
Coppola probably had his involvement barried down deep. if u watch the mini series the offer it shows u how ruthless the movie industry is just like the mafia the movie industry base slot of it's movies from. from hearing what Coppola did he was just as ruthless as the criminals in his movies. using his money to hide his despicable actions and ruining Nathan winters or God knows how many other lives just to protect the industry. as my father says to me never meet ur heros because they turn out to be a villain
Woah. It's hard to think of Nathan having to go to Coppola's house for 8 hrs a day after Coppola sued his family.... Did Nathan have a guardian with him at this time or was he by himself? That is just pure mental torture for a victim, omg my heart is so heavy right now. Thank you for this Dreading, I had no idea about Coppola's connection.
@KennyKissKiss Coppola has his own recording studio at home, plenty of richer directors did at the time. Nowadays the tech is so inexpensive relatively speaking that anyone can have one
My mother accompanyed me every day I had to be at Coppola's house. Heres a little food for thought. While at Coppola's house after dubbing was finished for the day. Coppola's then teenaged daughter Sofia was celebrating her 16th birthday. She had 2 friends over, several brand new cars parked on the front lawn to choose from as her and her 2 friends played croquet and drinking st. Paulie's girls out of green bottles they noticed me watching and came to talk to me. They were extremely flirty with my 12 year old self and asked me to convince my mother to allow me to stay the night there and celebrate her birthday as a guest. I begged my mom for over an hour but she refused to let me stay. At the time I was really pissed off at her but as an adult in hind sight I understand completely and am very grateful. It begs the question what did Sofia have in mind asking a 12 year old boy at 16 to stay the night?
@KennyKissKissthis is Coppola we're talking about my friend. He has a studio and full sized theater built at his mansion in Napa Valley California. All the dubbing was done at his house in his studio.
If that was true about Francis Ford Coppola knowing what happened and blaming the boy for reporting it! He lost all respect in my eyes! It's disgusting if you still support someone who is capable of harming a child!!
I have a list of actors I no longer watch. Tom Hanks is one. Anytime I find out people were involved in this machine, so to say, I boycott them. There are great movies I will not watch. Steven Speilberg is a hard one....what he did to the little girl, Heather O'Rourke. That's a little known story in Poltergeist that she didn't die from a rare disease. She died of painful Sepsis. Internally. From some horrible sexual deviance. As a grown woman that nearly died of Sepsis, I can't imagine how Heather must have felt. She was left with that man constantly!! 🥺 what they say about the red shoes, idk. It's completely possible, ANYTHING is. They claim the song Davie Bowie sings "Let's Dance" refers to SS. "Put on your red shoes and dance the blues." That's all speculation. I don't watch SS movies. I'm interested in Jeepers Creeper 2, to see what Salva did do, but I can't sit through the whole thing. Salvas "helping" kids is young offenders is a disgusting thing. Nathan advocating is an amazing thing. 💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜
@@jackhamilton9604 Some people believe Tom got involved with Jeffery Epstein's dirty backyard because he was in the flight logs. And some time later, he was staying in Greece where the age of consent is younger And I guess it's also believed that Steven Spielberg sodomized Heather O'Rourke during the filming of Poltergeist (first I've ever heard of this!) I suppose both could be true and I just don't want to believe them. But I don't see any damning evidence
Glad this is being brought up again. I feel alot of people try to hide the directors history when discussing the film or at least make sure to not mention the topic at all when talking about. It's always good to have more awareness about this stuff.
I had heard about the charges against him but never knew about the gross injustice done to the victim. This is extremely upsetting, especially when it comes to Coppola. The fact the he saw nothing wrong with what Salva did, and continued to defend and work with him, just proves that the corruption and perversion in Hollywood runs rampant.
“making a slasher film is one of the easiest things to do” tell me you don’t know anything about filmmaking without telling me you know nothing about filmmaking
@@Wufffles do you know how much work goes into making those kills look and feel real? or look like they aren’t fake? ppl put in time to make the blood, make prosthetics….
I like the first 2 Jeepers Creepers films. It just sucks that it came from this guy's mind. Of course, he took some inspiration from the Unsolved Mysteries episode as well as IT. The guy said that he is not a fan of gore. He prefers things that get under your skin...yeah, I'm sure you do. Creep.
Yeah, it's nigh impossible to watch any Roman Polanski films, Johnny Depp films, Kevin Spacey films, Mel Gibson films, Bryan Singer films, Harvey Weinstein films, Joss Wheden films, and now Coppola films. When will the list stop?
I DID NOT KNOW THIS! These people make it so hard to enjoy ANYTHING! It seems like this industry is full of abusers. I can't listen to certain music, watch certain films, etc b/c of these people. They keep coming up again and again. They are so unbelievably disturbing. I cannot believe the shear level of protection these people gain. Aren't we supposed to protect the powerless? OMG! Thank you, dreading, for making this film and sharing this information. You are doing a fantastic job. I appreciate this.
I do have one suggestion...why don't we do our own stories? Why don't people produce their own films and stories with people who are morally correct and not tied to the hypocrisy of Hollywood and the depravity
it's disgusting, how Salva not only saw himself as the victim but how many people back him, as well as allowed him to continue to have access to minors.
So much admiration and warm wishes for Nathan - have heard about his story but hadn't heard it from him himself; that he has been putting himself out there for the sake of other potential survivors knowing that this man is still alive, well and working with allies requires such a grounded understanding of process, justice and spirit. May he continue to have the support he needs in the face of evils in Hollywood.
There's no way in hell Disney didn't know he went to prison, unless the person hiring didn't do their job. I think the entertainment industry knows who are terrible people and look past it because there's too many of them and it'd be harder to find someone that wasn't terrible. I mean, look at the movie Amsterdam coming out soon. The director David O. Russell admitted to SA-ing his niece, plus he's a terrible person to work with in general (Clooney almost beat the crap out of him on set because he abused an extra on set in front of everyone) and BIG names are STILL working with him to make that movie (including Taylor Swift, Anya Taylor-Joy, Margot Robbie, Christian Bale, Chris Rock, etc). Why hold others to a "high" (the bare minimum, really) standard if you yourself are doing shady things too? I'm very suspicious of his pal Francis for pushing that hard to cover Victor's ass....
It’s a sad fact that these big corporations turn a blind eye, look at Nickelodeon! There’s no accountability and in my book anybody especially people in positions of trust that turns a blind eye and let’s abuse continue is as guilty as the pieces of sh#t that abuse !
Like the actor that did the voice for the mirror on the disney channel show Suite life of Zach and Cody, was a convicted pedophile when they hired him. Disney only hires creeps
Quite true. Disney is so full of shit, and any insurance company that would insure the production is not worth its weight if they don't require comprehensive background checks for major staffed positions. Total bullshit that they didn't know.
Disney is that company who puts out good entertainment but as a company are money hungry idiots who’ll do anything for money even if it means unethical shit.
thank you for covering this now we finally have an accessible source of info about this case because its such a messed up rabbithole that not many ppl know the full story about
I had no idea how far this went. I had heard about him a little bit after the jeepers creepers movie came out years ago when i was a teen, but I just heard he was a bad guy, and no one ever specified why. Now I know, thanks to this video.
Thank you for bringing to light cases like this. I didn't know this repulsive POS, and thank goodness I never supported any of his work. Coppola is just as disgusting for making sure POS goes free and putting pressure on the victim's family. More people should know about this case.
@@TheNoSuchThingPodcast exactly what they said he did in their comment. Sued the family of the victim and helped him get film deals all while knowing he's a pedophile
I did hear about this not long after learning about the Jeepers Creepers films. I discovered them through watching a (now late) favorite TH-cam channel of mine watching and reviewing the first two, and then refusing to review the third one, or anything made by Victor. This is both because he just hated both films, and also because he discovered and was appalled with Victor's disgusting actions, and that "he would not watch any more of his films out of sheer principle". Very good move on his end in my eyes.
I just watched Clownhouse on TH-cam and after watching on it I read an article about the director and the actor he assaulted. I couldn't believe I had never heard of it before. An hour later you post this in depth video with all the details. Thank you!
That pedophile ring of wealthy rich people extends into a lot of countries, specially in third world countries were their is little to no regulation on the matter and the authorities and justice system is impotent when a bribe is presented up front. We appreciate the hard work you put in investigating all of these subjects and profiles, we love your channel. Cheers from Guatemala!
Thank you for shedding light on these monsters who are still among young actors in Hollywood. Nathan is such a brave person. I was a victim of SA by someone in my family. I didn't have the courage to disclose it until my abuser was dead, when I was 23. I wish I had told when it happened (age 11), then possibly my younger sister (who was 6 then) wouldn't have been abused also. I denied us both justice forever by keeping quiet. Keep being strong and using your voice!
This is one of my favourite channels of all time. I've never been so consistent in watching videos quickly or multiple times. I just adore the quality of content. I've never subscribed to a patreon before, but I will be for this one. Thank you Dreading
The way you narrate and script these videos is better than all veteran youtubers and easily on par with production houses! Especially all the empathy you show to the victims is admirable to say the least... Been on TH-cam for a decade and more now and this is one of the only channels I actually anticipate to upload. Keep up the amazing work man!
The fact that a molester can become a millionaire while his victim is black listed speaks volumes about the film industry.
There's just no money in molested children, unless you happen to be part of that Hollywood economy.
Oi vey
Sadly I'm not surprised about this Hollywood doesn't care about the victims
Well, when Corey Feldman went on Barbara Walters show in 2011 or so, and told of his assaults, all Walters had to say was "youre putting a black mark on an entire industry."
All these Hollywood fcks are sick!
@@HereIsWisdom1318 yes they are sick
Abusing children isn't a mistake! It's a choice! Totally disgraceful that he's still able to have a career & Nathan got blacklisted.
Exactly!!!! 😠😠😠
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@@LasArmas_ 👍🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽
@@saltingtheleather someone has a choice to find them too
you had me in the first half ngl
I'd never heard this before. Coppola sued the family of a child sex abuse victim. That's unreal.
Yeah that's disgusting what he did he definitely doesn't have any shame for what he's done
It's weird they didn't file a counterclaim for emotional damage/suffering or unsafe working conditions.
WOW. I think I'm going to make a tiktok about this honestly. I knew of victor salva being a predator but not the extent or that coppala was involved. It's all disgusting and sad how it was swept away.
@@melanieshaw691 yeah you are so right 💯
@Jonathan Williams Lets separate the art from the person. Lots of questionable people are great artist. No way you can sit through Apocalypse Now and not say it isn't a masterpiece.
I knew Salva was a monster, but knowing Coppola bailed him out is eye-opening. Can't look at Coppola's career in quite the same way either.
I'm appalled and sickened knowing what he did
@@angelaholmes8888 he was my favourite director, i feel sick watching his movies now. I can't believe how awful he is
@@paulallen2919 yeah I was shocked learning this about him
@@angelaholmes8888 chill
@@paulallen2919 calm down bud I bet you love Bryan singer movies stfu
The fact he even kinda looks like John Wayne Gacy, and made a movie about murderous clowns targeting little boys is so creepy to me
I was thinking the same thing
I’m not sure when the clown movie of his came out but it seems like he was inspired by Gacy
🤡☠️ No wonder kids are afraid of clowns and the ice cream man!
I wouldn’t be surprised if it turned out this dude has killed someone tbh
@@YoungYahtz94 ikr
This is a quote from Coppola himself:
“Only in retrospect did things really add up. You have to remember, while this was a tragedy, that the difference in age between Victor and the boy was very small -- Victor was practically a child himself.” (Actually, Salva was 29 to the boy’s 12.)”
Pretty obvious that Coppola doesn’t think forcing a child to give you oral sex is a problem and he’s even (mistakenly) tried to downplay the ages of Salva and the boy to make it more acceptable.
These fucking people…..
Beyond fucking disgusting!! They definitely cover for their own!!
From the sounds of things that's Hollywood and the film industry all over. Beyond disgusting!
@@k1dn1ce76 I believe so. And it seems like many know what's going on and only speak out when the s**t hits the fan.
He’s a loyal friend…in a bad way…a very bad way…
Never trust someone who wants to spend more time with your child than you do. Also, people thinking you're weird for suspecting someone, even if they haven't done anything (that anyone knows of) or hurting an adult's feelings or making them feel uncomfortable is not more important than your kid's safety. If something feels off, trust that feeling.
Also, Salva isn't the only monster in this story; everyone who stood by him and supported him and ignored his conviction for SA-ing a child, are also complete pieces of human sewage. Completely hate Francis Ford Coppola now. Disgusting.
Good on Nathan for being brave enough to tell his story! And thank you, dreading, for making a video on this horrific story, one that I was completely unaware of.
EXACTLY!! I feel sick that I’ve watched his movies
it's truly a terrible tragic reality that most perpetrators of SA against children are known to the victim and tend to be a family member or close family friend. You're absolutely right, regardless of how nice someone seems, it's a big red flag if they want to spend that kind of alone time with your child like that.
Exactly! Also the people who tried to defend Victor are sus af and should actually be investigated as well 🧐
@@naylani7790 agreed
Only my parents have my children, sorry but I may be overprotective but I would rather that than my children be abused by someone. I do not trust anyone and I will continue to be the same!
In retrospect, this all plays out in the Jeepers films. There’s a dark, frightening man, a “creep”, who essentially hunts down attractive young men. He even gets an erotic thrill from sniffing them, before taking them away to have his way with them. There are all these homo-erotic shots of young male bodies. Of course, I didn’t really notice when I first watched, and didn’t know about the abuse until more than 10 years after watching the movies. What really shocks me is Copolla, who I used to hero worship. Salva’s “mistakes” were made when he was in his 30’s and the victims were minors. Creeper indeed.
Roger Ebert noted that Jeepers Creepers 2 was oddly homoerotic, pointing out a particular scene in which a group of four or five teenage boys stand side by side in a row while one of them pees. The in-universe explanation was that the peeing boy was scared to be alone with a monster on the loose, but Ebert noted the composition was unnatural.
@@karaoconnoraliasraidra That’s interesting! Notice the adults all get ‘whisked away’, literally and then the Creeper is only interested in the males, sniffing, penetrating and then taking them away or consuming them. The worst part is the first 2 are actually decent horror films. It’s amazing what you don’t notice when you are young and naïve.
You're reading too much into it
@@randchuck2492 I don’t think so. It’s all quite obvious, in retrospect. I didn’t even know Americans call pervs ‘creepers’. I just lost my naivety, did some film studies and learned some critical thinking is all.
Sounds like Pedophile Joe Biden- sniffing kids
I really hope Nathan is doing okay I truly feel sorry for him what that monster did to him not only ruined his childhood but also his career in the industry
Nate didn't help himself, by spending so much energy whinging over the fact that his wee-wee got diddled a couple of times when he was 9, and so little on mastering his craft as an actor. This is no less absurd than Congolese women, who endlessly bemoan the fact that they ended up in the middle of a gang bang put on by the local militia. all because said gang bang wasn't 100% consensual. If these broads had any idea just how much effort us Westerners put into making ourselves candidates for getting laid, they'd be grateful for the service that those militias are providing to run of the mill women like themselves, free of charge
No, it ruined his life. Nathan is my cousin and is a hard drug addict and has been since he was a teenager. He also sexually abused my sister and others in my family, as he was the oldest of all the children, the behavior he learned from Victor trickled down. Our moms are to blame as well, as they did a terrible job protecting us and constantly allowed dangerous people into our lives and had little interest in what was really going on in our lives. Because of what happened to Nathan, I was sexually abused from as early as I could form memories, so I'm thinking since I was 1 years old, because I have memories of sexual abuse at the age of 2. My family thinks of Nathan as the only one who was wronged, but they ignore the fact that it got to all of us.
@@piemuggs Give Nate credit where it's due: He provided your sis with a live-fire tutorial in the erotic, something that's tough to come by, in this stifled and prudish culture we inhabit. She was almost certainly rocked the world of the many boys in junior high she pulled into bed, thanks to all the techniques Nate had taught her
@@piemuggsMa perché tu lo conosci ?😂
Wait ruin meaning he could not make any more movies like they would not hire him or bc it made him quit acting
I was 30 years old when my abuser went to his knees and apologised! It was at a family gathering and he was drunk!
It gave me great pleasure to loudly say, “Based on the fact that you threatened me if I told an adult, It must be hard to look in the eyes of an adult who knows exactly what you are!”
And THAT is what these creeps forget …. at some point they will have to face their adult victims!
Although it didn’t make any difference in this instance! According to recent revelations, the whole film industry is full of paedophiles!
May Salva and his supporters rot in hell!
I'm very sorry for what you went through. I wish they would put them to death already. There is no rehabilitation once they ruin someone's life in that way. In my opinion, they don't deserve a second chance for something that drastic.
May them rot in hell!
Wow your your own worst fear
@@OMundoParaIniciantes dosnt exist
I wish I could do the same. I can’t even go to Thanksgiving and other family gatherings anymore because my abuser has started showing up to them and it makes me so uncomfortable having him smile in my face and try talking to me like nothing ever happened.. He has a wife and kids now and it would create so many problems if I were to bring things into light. I woke up to it happening while sleeping, so after so many years of telling myself it was a nightmare I’ve started to believe maybe it just was.. but idk it felt so real and it instantly gives me shudders every time it comes to mind. I guess I’ll have to take this one to the grave unfortunately..
I don't understand how sentences can be reduced for sex crimes, let alone sex crimes against MINORS. Sexual predators should not get released early for "good behavior" and there should be a minimum sentence of 10 years for any crime involving a minor. not only did he have cp in his possession he also created it, how can someone that vile only serve 15 months of an already reduced sentence?! disgusting.
Money and power.
Sit though a couple of court cases in a day. You will see all attorneys and layers and all the judicial staff know each other. It's all about who you know and those players making deals with each other. Every now and then you get a good apple. But money buys you the best story telling spinner and liars
Justice is whatever you have the $ to pay for.
Should just tourture then kill them
The idea of "good behaviour" in prison following sex crimes against women and children feels particularly unfounded. Easy to be "good" when your victims of choice aren't available to you :(
Nathan Winters is a badass for outing Victor Salva in spite of the risks. Any other person that looks down on him for being a victim is a monster. Especially other men.
I think a lot of people don't understand what you pointed out about the parents being groomed as well. Too often we all scream "How could the parents be so blind? How could they let this happen?" as what the predator is doing to the parents is barely ever discussed.
Who is going to think someone would spend literal *years* to work up to something like that and just to get to your child? I imagine even if you did have suspicions the others adults around you would think you had lost your mind and were overly paranoid. They have their camouflage so perfectly in place that a parent would probably start think they are crazy themselves.
I needed to hear this perspective. It has helped me understand so much as to how and why this can happen right under their noses.
Honestly I can only blame parents who know and do nothing and parents who know about someone’s crimes against children and STILL let their kids around them.
I think these parents are just deeply in denial and care more about “social niceties” than the safety of their children.
Why wait for your your child to say “yes the relationship is inappropriate”. They are a child and may not even understand what inappropriate is?
Having her banned from set should have been a sign enough. If I had suspicions, and noticed any change in my child’s behavior - I’m separating them 🤷🏻♀️
I hope more people realize that it’s hard for people to realize they are “victims” while the abuse is active 😔 they are likely still in shock / dissociation / disbelief.
Yeah, as I sit here babysitting my friend’s two kids, I think I’m doing much the same as that creep did…everything but the abuse. My friend trusts me with her kids and I am trustworthy…but if I was a creep, how would she know? We know and trust each other, my kid has had sleepovers at her house, her kids have stayed over at my house…and if one of us was a creep, how would we have seen or known or realized? What would be different?
@@Andreamom001 exactly. And if the parents were abused as kids themselves, they often dismiss any gut feelings or suspicions they might have as being in their heads. Like, they're just being paranoid because they were abused and are fckd in the head. And predators can be incredibly good at manipulation and gaslighting.
his mom did as much as any parent could be expected to, and his response was the response he was trained to give, and that's kinda the problem with the way we raise our kids today. we really messed up when we decided that we needed to focus on the nuclear family so hard, more hands makes lighter work, and more eyes on a kid makes abuse harder.
I still can't believe that the family had to pay $100,000 because they went to the police about their son being sexually abused. Just goes to show you, our whole society revolves around money, and the well-being of people, even young children, isn't deemed nearly as important as stacks of money. We live in a sick, sick culture.
That was what I was thinking also. At first I thought I heard it wrong. 100,000 penalty for telling the police a FELONY was committed against you.
Capitalism everything has a price.
Ngl, if I got sued for reporting a pedo to the police, I’d beat the hell out of the person suing me.
Might as well if my life is destroyed anyway.
That is what happens when a society abandons morality and belief in a higher power, the material is what matters when that happens and whats more material than money? It is true in the past that people were motivated by money but it was less so.
Thos evil country was built off greed, and evilness.
We need to spread this in social media so Coppola is held accountable.
You are so right people do need to know
Woody Allen molested his daughter and groomed his stepdaughter
Roman Polanski was convicted of raping a 14 year old
R Kelly filmed himself raping a middle schooler
Hollywood knows and doesn't care.
God already cancelled Coppola so I think we're fine.
good luck with that😂 not happening
@@razzprince2877not really. He has a new movie coming out at Cannes.
If Nathan sees this, I just want him to know I am so sorry to both him and his parents for what they went through and how poorly justice was served.
I'm less sorry for the parents than Nathan. I mean, they had 2 children so "they had their hands full"? I know we are all more cynical now but how many parents drop the ball because they want a free babysitter or are dazzled by celebrity. Thankfully they did take action but their child had already been abused by the time they started to take note.
I feel sorry for Nathan- but definitely not the parents. They had every red flag and warning available.
@@truthseeker6370 I'm not sure we watched the same video.
@@fiona-lyons the hand full comment in the video seemed to be quoting Salva, not the parents. The parents were groomed too, Nathan discusses that explicitly in the interview
@@fiona-lyons It is despicably inconsiderate to blaming his parents for not being able to prevent something from happening. In fact, the mom was trying to affect behavior on set such that she was removed. She kept trying, and kept trying until they got Salva convicted. Do you think that this was his first victim? I don't. But I can see that this was the first time parents took action on actionable facts. I'm sad for your perspective, and my heart goes out to Nathan AND his parents.
I simply could not believe that I'd never heard of this, and called my mom after I finished the video. She knew of Salva and his films, but likewise hadn't heard of this, or Coppola's involvement. This is such an important story to tell and ensure that these injustices aren't forgotten. Another fantastic video, huge props to you for taking the monetisation hit to share this information.
Totally I had known Salva was the director for Jeepers Creepers but I didn't know he had also done Powder
I remember hearing that the Jeepers Creepers guy was actually creepy so I stopped watching the films
But now hearing that Coppola was and is close to him even after the truth came out sickens me to no end
It like it's one thing to boycott a relatively small director who has at least a few known movies
But there are classes dedicated to studying Coppola’s films and how he directs
You can actually lose friends if you say you didn't care for the Godfather films
Other than just trying to get people to listen and understand that while hopefully, Coppola hasn't done the same as Salva he has shown complicity to the crimes Salva has committed by remaining friends with him
Omg just got to the part where Coppola blamed the kid over the full-grown man? And threatened to sue Nathan’s family
@@HealthyObbsession Not "threatened to sue." He actually sued them for breach of contract and they had to pay him (or their professional insurance company had to pay him) 100,000$. FFC is a true, despicable douchebag.
Funny, because I'm sure other moron's who worked with this pedophile will also say "I simply can not believe that I've never heard of this"....Right....
That's the Hollywood stuff, keep stuff quite but now all stuff that happened anywhere can be pulled up and put out here for us to see. Thanks for these platforms.
I knew he was a rapist, but I never knew the details of the story. I feel nauseous.
So bizarre to me how Coppola spoke in such grandiose fashion about Salva's value to the industry before Salva had really even created anything.
What always stunned me was how his film _Powder_ was basically a vehicle for him to complain about being rejected by society...for *abusing children.* Seriously, when you read the synopsis it's disturbing how blatant it is. Shows he isn't even slightly sorry for the evil he's done and the pain he's caused.
Woh, anyone have more info on this?
Shockingly (to me) I'd had no idea about the associations w/that movie...all I knew was that something about it gave me the creeps when I saw just a clip of it just before I was pregnant w/my son...tho I DID know it was Disney & I already knew not to trust them. Bloody hell, your name is bang-on...thinking of changing mine to either Hell-In-A-Handbasket or People-SUCK-Animals-R-Better (w/props to my Granny on BOTH). .....Never surprised when an animal injures me (saw it coming - my bad), but people keep rocking me to my core.
....animals just do what they do, people are fkng EVIL...even a rabid dog doesn't GROOM its victims.
yea he clearly believes he’s the true victim in all of this and clearly doesn’t care about the children he abused not once has he apologized instead it’s just like a “i made a mistake… move on” type of situation
And who relesed Powder? Disnee. The same people who defend James Gunn and create trash like Wokeyear
@@deadpoolguy283 Yeah they're an evil company....a children's network that sues preschools for licencing fee because the teachers drew their characters for the kids.
So glad to see this case brought to an audience outside of the horror community. The story was hidden in plain sight for far too long and this predator was allowed to flourish, and continues to work in an industry that ignored his well known proclivity for abuse. This is an important video.
I hope they arrest Victor Salva again. This justice system is broken
Yeah, can't believe how many were unaware of his sick past
Well hollyweird is full of these creeps so why would he not be able to flourish along with his fellow pedos
Hollywood is full of well know abusers, be it s3xual or otherwise. Predators thrive in Hollywood.
Not to mention he's able to use his story telling skills to make his backstory sympathetic and "inspirational" to help hide his misdeeds
Yikes. Salva clearly has no remorse and makes himself the victim, and Coppola's treatment of the actual victim is also reprehensible. I haven't been a fan of Coppola as a human being for a while; for a while; in the early 1980s, he dangled the promise of a role in one of his movies to adult film actress Shauna Grant, who wanted to break into mainstream acting. She was his guest at some adult industry events and parties, but he strung her along and never cast her -- a possible factor in her self-un-aliving.
That’s horrendous because because it made her feel like, she wasn’t good enough for mainstream and I wouldn’t be surprised if he took s.. advantage of her, promising her the part
Francis Ford Coppola was such a monster. I hope people spread this story everywhere. There is no way someone like that should get away with doing so much more harm to a victim and giving so much cover to a proven perpetrator.
I can never forgive coppola.
Isn’t he Nicholas Cage’s uncle and the reason he got started in film ?
@@cheeriosforhonkies8867 Only as an extra on one of the Godfather movies. He later changed his name so that he could make his own career without the Coppola name
Marcia Lucas who was the ex-wife of George Lucas and fellow friend and editor to many of the New Hollywood (Scorsese, Spielberg, De Palma, etc.) said while editing one of Coppola's movies saw him openly cheating on his wife with no regards to what his wife thought
@@porkchopproductions0314 I mean, that’s literally a dime of a dozen in Hollywood. FFC is a symptom of a greater sickness in Hollywood-it’s a ring of scum protecting each other because *everyone* would likely collapse if justice were mete in full.
Victor Salva’s “official” backstory is like a cliché storm of manufactured victimhood angst. Probably just one long excuse to avoid accountability for his own disgusting actions. Francis Ford Coppola should be ashamed of himself.
Nah... Coppola's skillful maneuvering of the legal system ultimately blessed us with a masterful flick like Jeepers Creepers I. Our culture wouldn't have been so enriched, had we instead acted like a bunch of pussies, by boo hoping over an 8th rate Maculay Culkin wannabe's wee wee being diddled a few times. Let's not pretend that he, like most kids in America, wasn't going to be engaging in acts far more demented anyway, when he entered junior high a few years later
@@MechaJutaroAre you Salva’s burner account? Disgusting asshole.
Those clichés are real for a reason there are many bad fathers and step fathers. My mother was a pole stroller with a fetish for criminals and constantly gas lit me and my siblings about them. That being said I could never harm a minor for any reason backstory is not an excuse to become a monster. I'm just trying to say that he very well could have been abused it's not an excuse
What's so gross is that there's pictures of him looking like John Wayne Gacey and he made a movie about serial killing clowns. Wtf!
I hope the parts about Coppola become more well-known by the general public. Abusers AND their accomplices need to be held accountable, especially when they're so revered and lauded as Coppola is.
I just assume everyone in Hollywood is a pedo
The way Hollywood is, makes me wonder if Coppola is child groomer as well if he’s willing to back this creep. A normal person would of dropped him a moved on.
Sad because he’s one of the greatest ever.
100% fuk Coppola
Hollywood is literally run by pedophiles, it’s not a surprise Coppola did all of this for him. People are unwilling to face the reality of how much ritual child sex abuse happens among the powerful and elite in societies globally.
I was vaguely aware of Victor because of Dead Meat and James’ strong stance on not covering the Jeepers Creepers movies. Actually insane how this man was continuously given the opportunity to abuse children. Disgusting.
That and Polanski movies. More than likely not until both are dead.
I wonder how James feels about coppola?
@@htruman not too sure Coppola’s ever done a horror movie. Dead Meat is pretty much exclusively horror.
@@starrsmith3810 Coppola directed Dracula.
@@VasManHorrorLivesMatter
Welp time to avoid another movie of his. Sad too. I love Keanu Reeves and Winona Ryder. Though only Dracula I’ve seen Dead Meat do was the Dracula with Bela Lugosi.
Jeepers Creepers is such a good movie but holy fuck the director is an irredeemable monster...
He’s worse than a murderer too
One of the best horror movies of all time imo. Out of all the people who could be irredeemable pedos, it had to be this guy.
It's ok tbf, the design of the monster is what sells it imo, the movie in itself is pretty generic and forgettable.
The 2nd one is dumber but works also better, it fully embraces the B movie side of it and puts stupid teens in it to get more action than the first one, but overall a freaking pedo has made those, I can't watch them without thinking of that and these movies should never have existed in the first place, this guy had to rot in prison and never be in the film industry ever again, this industry is disgusting 🤮
@@MrJojoringoNo, sono bei film, ora non diciamo cazzate
@@gabrielelatorre22 I primi 2 sono divertenti ma non'è che siano il massimo del horror, il mostro e le scene splatter sono fatto bene, il terzo pero è una schifezza senza nome e Reborn non ne parliamo neanche. Pero mi sembra strano che Coppola ha preso la difesa di quello la, è proprio un regista qualunque.
I did hair on a movie called "Rosewood Lane" that Victor directed in 2011. If I'd known about this at the time, I would never have worked on it. He was a nice guy and I enjoyed working with him, which just goes to show how easy it is for predators to walk among us.
I've always been fascinating by that. If I read you correctly, you are saying that as someone who was around him at the time, he did not give off any 'creeper' vibe (no pun intended,) or exhibit any kind of questionable behavior? Not even bad jokes? Weird stories? Anything?
I only ask because I suspect that this is the case, where pedos know who to act appropriately around, in case they ever need a character witness, or something like that. They know how to also groom bystanders to believe the best in them?
@@superhotnutjob yes, exactly this. When I look back on it, I guess I can see certain things, insecurities and such, and he had talked about an incident that he considered a mistake, but I never thought in a million years that that "mistake" he talked about so casually was being a pedophile (and getting caught). We cracked jokes with each other. We talked about our traumatic childhoods with each other. We bonded over being the fat kid growing up. He's very good at bonding with people and coming off as non-threatening. When I worked with Mark on Glee, he gave me a bad vibe. Victor didn't.
@@twocuteweirdos Wow. Thank you so much for your response.
@@twocuteweirdos Read "worked" and "on gLee" and marked out. Offtopic, but really rad.
@@twocuteweirdos Hey you know that's kinda funny how you bring that up because I was actually watching Rosewood Lane not too long ago and thought it was pretty decent to be honest. I know there was a few well known actors such as Bill Fagerbakke and Lin Shaye in it but I actually have a question for you if you don't mind. While you were working on the movie behind the scenes with the filmcrew or whatever you did exactly, on the set did you happen to meet the actor Ray Wise who was in that film because if so you are lucky. I'm a big Ray Wise fan and that's the reason why I was watching Rosewood Lane in the first place because I like to watch films with him in it. He's my favorite
It's sick how the parents were sued and had to pay. It is horrendously sick that they can put a clause in a contract, "if a child is molested they can't call the police." They should be arrested for that alone. They're basically saying it's happening and is going to happen. WTH!
Non disclosure agreements don't cover criminal acts. It's disgusting that the judge would rule that way.
I'm not defending FFC or Sylva in any way, but you have to know that wasn't the clause, right? They don't word it illegally.
They'll put a clause that says "if your kid misses more than an hour of required time, we can sue you." Then they say that the time that the kid and the family took to do whatever they needed to do to report and stop the crime from happening is time away from required time, and they can sue. For example, if the clause is "can;t refuse required rehearsal time," and the kid refused to rehearse, because rehearsing meant being alone in a trailer with their abuser, they would still be seen as a breach of contract.
Again, I'm not defending these practices. I'm just pointing out that a lot of people go through micro-grooming behaviors when they are in the periphery of an abuser. We are all often guilty of missing some "orange flags" when we are around someone who abuses people. So... one last time... not defending, just saying we all have a hand in exposing abusers. That's all...
@@superhotnutjob the judge fucked up for ruling to protect a rapist. The judge needs to go
@@chemistryofquestionablequa6252 It wasn't a NDA, it was a breach of contract suit.
@@superhotnutjob Which makes it even worse when that 'breach' involves covering up the ruination of a child.
"You have to remember, while this was a tragedy, that the difference in age between Victor and the boy was very small -- Victor was practically a child himself.”
Francis Ford Coppola
These people are sick.
Further proof that Coppola is a brain-dead pedophile defending idiot.
What does that have to do with anything???????
@@mustbetuesday3982 Coppola’s thoughts on the case
@@mustbetuesday3982Are you stupid?
Nathan is the hero here, with the guts to stand up and expose at his own expense a true monster like SALVA. Shows just how demented some folks in Hollywood are when it comes to dealing with PAEDOS.
Nathan doesn't hate Victor. He does not hold a grudge against him. He said "I'm not speaking out to stop Victor from working or making movies, I'm here to stop him from having access to children, I don't care if people enjoy his movies that's up to them"
@@josefengelhardt2767 what has that got to do with my comment?
@@sonofagreatsouthernland because no one knows about how Nathan feels about Victor now. People are asking things like Does he Forgive him? I'm just saying this in case some people don't know
I don't know if you take requests but if you're taking a crack at the dark side of filmmakers or the business, the incident regarding John Landis and the Twilight Zone Movie is still so tragic that its considered a taboo to talk about it in the industry to this day. What's worse is that Landis, despite being as culpable as possible for three needless deaths (two of them children) and many more maimed, is still a free man.
I’d love to see him cover this!
Fantastic recommendation, one I support wholeheartedly
I'm all for this one! Great suggestion, I've never heard of it.
There's a podcast called Behind The Bastards who covered this tragedy quite well too. Very informative and concerning.
I support that as well
I remember hearing about Victor Salva and his chumship with Coppola. I was surprised at Coppola. But later, when Sofia started making movies, particularly her most recent film about a father romancong his daughter, she said: _"The film at its heart is a romance - but an unexpected one - it's between father and daughter. That man who takes you to a restaurant and treats you in a certain way is a precursor to what you look for in a partner."_
I saw the movie and thought that maybe she was "daddy's little girl", too.
I did not know this story before. Jesus. Thank you for calling it the recorded sexual abuse of children instead of child porn. I used to work in San Francisco and both Nicholas Cage and his dad, August Coppola were my customers. Nic was a fabulous, kind, funny man (I got to go to his house once and it was sooo cool) but his dad was one of the most dislikable people I have ever met. I guess the brothers Francis and August were birds of a feather. Yikes.
Makes me wonder what Nic may have suffered growing up.
@@NinjaDildoShow I feel like people that go through trauma either turn into kind of shitty people or like uniquely kind and empathetic
Nic seems like a genuinely good and interesting person
@@BabyBoy_Milo 100% of humans endure trauma, just some more and some less
Even you.
All porn is sexual abuse.
Thank you, thank you for making this video! As a survivor of CSA, it's critical that we keep these criminals in the public eye. My belief is that they CANNOT be rehabilitated and need life sentences, without the possibility of parole. I'VE paid for my perpetrators' crimes my ENTIRE LIFE, why shouldn't they. Therapy helps, but there is no true healing from this type of evil.
I'm sorry that happened to you, but that is a bad idea. I've heard lawyers say that life sentences encourage homicide. This is a complex issue that that can't be solved by something as simple as increasing levels of punishment. Most of these crimes are committed by close family members, and it would only serve to deter victims coming forward due to not wanting to send their fathers to prison for life or worse.
Death penalty. Not less.
Unfortunately they are a protected group. I'm pretty sure they actually belong to a old "religion" that went underground long ago. A secret society, etc. They seem to occupy top positions in government and authority... They "run" our governments/systems etc. We need to become "fearless vampire killers" so to speak. (yes, that's a bit dramatic lol, but you know what I mean)
Agree, they should also have to lose the "tool" they use to SA children. If they did that, i guarantee less men will do that to children, same goes for women that do that to kids. It sounds harsh but in ancient Greece they did that and most men avoided doing that because of fear they would lose their parts. Sadly i had a friend that did a terrible thing to his step-sister and i have nothing to do with him. Especially now that i have a small child. He was my best friend and never thought he could ever do that. He's in there for 15 years but could be out earlier with good behavior. And because he was an adult that committed the crime, he will have to register when he gets out. Even though he was mine and my fiancé's best friend, i hope nothing but the worse for him. I also think they shouldn't be in protective custody, they should be in general population so it's easy for them to be brutally punished by those that hate those actions.
It's pretty Goddamned pathetic that you would waste what little money you have on something like this.
The entire Francis Ford Coppola involvement has really been kept quite under the radar. I can't believe this is the first time I've heard about this despite having come back to revisit this case a handful of times over the years.
Isaac Kappy outed some major players and he pretty much dubbed a wacko by the media. When the public knows what Hollywood is really like.
If Nathan ever sees this comment, I’m so, so sorry this disgusting man put you through so much abuse. None of this is your fault.
This is Nathan Forrest Winters. I've read your comment and greatly appreciate your words and sympathies.
Can we talk about how heartbreaking it is for Nathan?! Not only was he assaulted by this man but on top of that he was ROBBED of his dream to be an actor. Imagine losing your job to the person who molested you… as an innocent boy.. 🤦♂️
Yeah poor Nathan it's sickening what that monster did
The sfx shop I work for was approached for work for the newest jeepers creepers movie. I told my boss I'd have absolutely no part of it and he said he agreed and turned them down, thankfully.
I remember when the allegations came out! My family was literally about to leave to go see Powder but as I was getting ready my mom came in my room and said “we’re not going, we’re not seeing it” and she refused to go. She explained why and I don’t know how she found out so suddenly since internet was still very new and she never used it so she must have heard about his protest somehow and believed him. So his voice was heard!
It was in newspapers the victim was protesting the movie.
Good on her. I would've stayed home, too; maybe put on a family film, instead
He directed POWDER?!? My fecking grandmother used to have the VHS Tape!!
@@SuperWolsey Yes he did and I gotta say after knowing what he’s done and then rewatching it there are SO many very uncomfortable shots and moments in the movie! Same with Jeepers Creepers 2, the boys are practically shirtless for no reason throughout most of the movie and they hold onto those shots for way too long like there’s a scene where at least 5 of the teenager boys are on top of the bus sun tanning and they hold onto that shot for a while, I use to think it was just to give us girls some eye candy like they do for guys but now it’s just uncomfortable and I see it differently now. I love both those 2 Jeepers Creepers films and now they are so hard to watch.
people keep saying "allegations" and "accusations" but at that point it was neither of those things, the guy was an ex con pedo and had already been convicted by the time he made that movie.
Nathen…you’re a HERO for standing up to these creeps 👍🏻
He isn't standing up to anyone he is doing it for profit...it's his job...I can not stand people like you who throw the hero card around....people who work the front lines (police officers,fire fighters,emt etc) are heros for instinct but a TH-cam creator getting a check is NOT ONE.
@nucci cool story share it to someone that actually gives 5 fucks
Cops don’t even protect and serve.. especially in school shootings
@@BarbiexxxDoll They weren't talking about the TH-cam creator but about the victim who is telling his story in this video.
@@BarbiexxxDoll you can step off your soapbox any time
"oh I made a mistake, one mistake!" flys to thailand 23 times a year....
I came from a very abusive household . Going to the movies has also been my escape and still is. If you are young and are being abused by your parent tell someone . I never spoke to anyone about what I was going through growing up. It deeply effected me. Mostly in lowering my self esteem and ability to focus on goals to better myself. Don’t protect your parents . Protect yourself. You are worth it.
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I'm so sorry that happened to you I hope you are doing okay
Oh my God. 😢😢😢 I'm so very sorry hun. 🙏🏽 I hope you have sought help for your peace of mind & self worth. This truly breaks my heart.💔 I absolutely hate anyone that harms children & wish them nothing good in their lives!! As one in the field of education for 28 years, I'm sorry that it wasn't noticed by the teacher. Thank you for the important advice & for sharing your very personal story. Please take care of yourself. 🙏🏽❤️
@@angelaholmes8888nice!!!
i'm so sorry, i hope you eventually heal and have a good life, you deserve it , you are worth it..
now it makes sense why the ending for jeepers creepers was so eerie, it played out like the sicko wanted it to
The monster won and got its prize.
Convicted child r_pist Polanski also did the same. In his movie Chinatown, he made the ped0 character get away with this crimes. These people are sick in the head for carrying out their twisted fantasies in their own movies.
I think there were a few lawsuits that came out of the original Jeeper’s Creepers set… Nathan was far and away from his only victim, but he seems to be the only one willing to speak about it. How brave of Nathan to continue to fight against both of these creeps. 🖤
It makes me sick that I thought Salva was such a talented horror writer/director when he was really getting turned on by directing the half dressed boys in clownhouse. Salva did an amazing job covering this up, I’ve been reading, watching tru crime for over 30 years and I’ve never heard of this. He’s a sick bastard.
Yes he's such a creep 🤢🤮
This is why i hate it when i hear “but she withdrew her accusations”
Yeah no shit, when millions and millions of dollars are on the table people tend to coerce victims to “let it go”
That implies that every woman who withdraws her accusation is facing financial blackmail……
Honestly, this case bothers me the most of any film industry sex abuse scandal. At least with most of the others, you can kind of understand how they got away with messed up stuff for years due to being famous etc. but this is a guy who was pretty much an unknown at the time of his crimes and spend the bulk of his career getting projects funded after everyone already knew he was a sexual abuser.
3 years?! He got 3 years after everything being documented and to add salt to the wound he only served 15 months?!
I never understand how the justice system low balls these cases when there’s proof that they groom children but having weed can sentence you to life!
Shame on the adults blaming a literal child for not knowing they were being groomed. I know they wouldn’t have said that if they were put in that horrible situation!
yeah because he went to a treatment facility?
the only "treatment facilities" that are effective for degenerates like this are of the Auschwitz variety
That the power of MONEY, CONNECTIONS, FREEMASONS, and CORRUPTION. ITS CALLED "CRIMINAL JUSTICE" for a reason.
@@slamfreepoetry1845 You almost had a good point if you didnt make it all bs by starting about the freemasons.
And why its called criminal justice? Well, its getting justice against criminals, is that so hard to understand?
The justice system is so unreliable and feels almost random at times. Murder? How about 10 years
It goes state to state, district to district. Some places you'll serve a few years for serious s*x crimes, others you'll be lucky to not leave in a box.
You are so respectful to the victims(direct witnesses and the loved ones), and ethical with your reporting and portrayal of the abusers/killers. I really appreciate it as a victim who has been subjected to true crime arm chair detective/pop psychologists revictimizing us. You are a true diamond in the rough.
Couldn't agree with you more. I hate the videos that give this terrible content "the Hollywood treatment." The thing I live most about this channel is that it doesn't need a spooky soundtrack, or fucking graphics of the abusers eyes peering around threateningly, like I saw in another video a few weeks back.
This is truly shaping up to be the new JCS! And I couldn't be more excited for the quality content to come!
I know you arent a real victim based strictly off of the fact you used the term “revictimized”… bozo.
and after listening to this today, I turned on the TV to see Jeepers Creepers playing 😡
It’s a real shame he didn’t spent the rest of his life in solitary confinement.
Solitary Confinement...in a Coffin!
He needed gen pop 😑
There's a commentary track with Salva and the cast on jeepers creepers 2 and he has the kid actor that dies in the opening scene with them throughout the commentary, it's really weird and makes you wonder what would've happened if they were alone.
They do that a lot. I remember seeing a video that had a tour of one of the tv networks studios. There was a guy that owned or ran it, and he had a very young Asian boy with him. This dude was an old creepy white guy.
That footage haunts the hell out of me.
Thank you everyone for your continued support and open disgust and dialogue on the trauma that my family and I all were forced to endure. Throughout Victors career my family and I have fought to keep the truth in circulation with the sole intent being the continued protection of every child and prevention CSA as it is rampant in our society and so true in my case glossed over and made to seem as something trivial and less severe as it truly was. Not only was FFC Salvas biggest supporter but a public liar as well. Like so many others in the industry. They have continuously coddled Victor and made bs excuse after bs excuse for his sickness and the abuse I suffered for nearly six years of my young life. The ex CEO for Disney Michael Isner I believe it was publicly lied and went on to say that the abuse consisted of a one time inappropriate touching incident between an adult and a consenting minor. Which paints a much different picture in the minds of the less informed. He intentionally lied and made it seem as though this was between a young adult and someone very near the legal age. When in fact at the time of his arrest Salva was 29 and I was a math away from my 12th birthday. FFC then went on to in a public statement claiming that Victor was practically a child himself when the abuse took place. Fact and truth: I was 6 when Victor was 23 and began abusing me on a regular. He was charged with 11 counts of child molestation including oral copulation with a child under 14 and filming oral copulation with a child under 14. However, thanks to FFC and Hollywood money(as well as a good deal of misinformation and straight up lying to my parents by MY attorney Stan Casper)Salava was given a plea bargain dropping 7 of the most severe charges and convicted on only the 4 lesser charges. Which granted him a laughable sentence of 3 years for a crime that took him 6 years to commit. Of which he served a mere 15 months in a rehabilitation treatment facility in Napa Valley California. Truth and fact is Victor never spent a single moment in a real prison and truth fact had a movie deal waiting for him upon his release from the cushy treatment facility. Fact and truth FFC told me to my 12 year old face that I would never work in the industry again and I never did. Thank you sincerely on behalf of myself and all those closest to me. Keep the truth alive and spread the truth like a wildfire. Please remember that education is prevention. The more you can learn about CSA and what to look for in predators as well as tell tail signs in victims the better your chances are at stopping it. If interested in more information you can expect more from me in the very near future including a documentary, a non-profit called “we r their voice” as well as a speaking tour to help educate and prevent CSA titled “Taking Action, Breaking Silence” or T.A.B.S. For short. It is time for us to evict this common attitude our culture has adopted that “it’s not my child, it’s not my problem.” Because that couldn’t be further from the truth. As adults we all, everyone of us have an obligation and responsibility to protect every child be it our own or not. That is where our future lays. In our children and what kind of message are we giving to them if we won’t fight to keep them all safe?
Hi Nathan I am also a victim of severe abuse growing up. I can understand what you went through because of the dysfunctional people who have abused me. Regards Peter
@JJOFT654-lc4ej But we are not allowed to say ANYTHING bad about homosexuals online. Then we get deleted. Where are the ethics?
My heart breaks for the childhood you lost. Idk you but I’m proud of you for continuing to advocate for yourself and all other children that have had to endure this horrific experience and suffering. I wish for you and your family all the best life has to offer and health, happiness and peace 🕊️
The actor for Clownhouse and (one of Salvas victims) did a fantastic interview/doc and is a very good person.
*Nathan Forrest Winters*
The courage he has to talk about something so traumatizing and horrific and embarrassing in front of the entire world is honestly pretty incredible
@@BabyBoy_Milo preach!
@@BabyBoy_Milo Especially since he has to RELIVE that nightmare by coming forward. I saw him on the Leeza show in the 90's and he held himself pretty well and seemed so brave
Do you know the link? Id like to watch the exact interview you’re talking about.
Salva: “I was beaten beyond recognition.”
Me: “LOLOL 😝”
The famous horse-head scene in The Godfather (directed by Coppola) is also in the book, but the movie cut out the detail that Woltz, the director, is a child molester.
Hmm.
Coppola is such a staple in film, and until today I had respected him based on what I learned in my film classes. Enablers of predators like this deserve equally harsh punishments (and not the slap on the wrist that resulted in this case). They both needed to be locked away from the public. Throw away the key. Absolutely disgusting.
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At this stage I just assume that everyone in those big conglomerates within entertainment industry, like Hollywood or BBC, is sick. They'd all happily cover for each other and sell the fantasy of glamour, art and finesse, when in reality, it's all built on greediness, hunger for power and willingness to abuse vulnerable persons just to feel better about themselves. People sell their own dignity, or even worse, dignity of their children, just to become famous and wealthy - there's nothing more pathetic.
For all we know he's actually a pred himself, again we're talking Hollywood here, I've come to assume most of these mfers are all sick I'm the head, and I wouldn't be surprised if Coppola's name appeared on a certain passed individuals flight logs..
Makes you wonder how normalized it was (and still is), that so many big names in the industry dismiss these crimes as not that big a deal. The Harvey Weinstein situation made it very clear that pretty much everyone working in the industry knew what a disgusting pig he was. I just don't want to think about what was going on during the 70's, 80's
Even today, who knows what fresh hell is happening with all the influencer kids and teens...
I never knew about Coppola's involvement what a scumbag both of them
I’m 51 and I was molested at 3 and again at 12-17. This absolutely sickens me. I would say that Hollywood should be ashamed, but they are not. As we have seen time and time again there are little to no consequences for these type of crimes. I smile just a little that he got his a** beat in prison. This is not how you protect children by letting a predator just roam free.
Hollywood has covered for child predators for years. Everyone in Hollywood knew Michael Jackson was sleeping with little boys but nobody ever spoke out against it and some people have been criticized for daring to speak out against the “King of Pop”.
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#metoo I am so sorry, I hope you have found your peace. It is stories like this that remind me why some of us did not tell, who would believe us, who would really care. I just remember loosing all trust in humanity on that night. The scars last forever.
I feel the same way about bullies
@@blackdogfive Thank you so much. I’m in therapy. Not let me shock you. I don’t have a relationship with the woman that gave birth to me.( she is not a mother)!!! She is still married to the man that did those things to me to this day! She has said IF he did things to me it’s because I was flirting with him. Are you f****** serious🤦🏾♀️ And he has since said that he did something inappropriate to me one time🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️ Am I correct about you being shocked!
Salva was a piece of shit, but damn he wouldn't have continued to have a career if it wasn't for Coppola.
I seriously do not understand how these people get away with these disgusting, unthinkable acts. And not only get away with doing it, BUT THEN CAN ACTUALLY TURN IT AROUND ON THE VICTIMS. Our justice system is so ass backwards and it's getting worse as time goes on. It infuriates me on another level and even moreso that I can't do anything about it. Thank you for your hours and hours of hard work and research to make this information public and bringing light to these cases.
Ever seen Stanley Milgram's *"Obedience Experiment?"* It's on here if you haven't.
@@NinjaDildoShow it sounds very familiar. Not sure if I've seen/read anything on it but I've definitely seen the name before. Was it some type of social experiment having to do with children? Or am I mistaking it for something else?
@@NinjaDildoShow oh wait no I have not seen it but I just searched it here on TH-cam and I've seen the thumbnail for a video on it multiple times that's why it sounds so familiar. Watching it now
How many judges and politicians in office right now were alive when racism, hatred, and child abuse/molestation were openly accepted? This behavior was common until the 1980s.
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This video made me SO ANGRY. Hearing his words said out loud enraged me UGH thank you for making this video. I will tell everyone I know how horrific Coppola is as well. He’s just as much of a monster.
Bordering on worse because an abuser can only ever abuse a limited number of victims. An accomplice/helpful by-stander can help as many abusers, as one abuser has victims. Yeesh... it's despicable to think about.
Coppola is so damn old that it doesn’t even matter at this point. I get what you mean, but it’s waaay too late to make any difference (as far as Francis Coppola goes…)
@@viciousdope66 His legacy can be ruined, and he can see it be ruined before he leaves this earth. People like him long for a good legacy/reputation once they’re gone, so it would be good for him to know that won’t happen so he has some semblance of consequences for aiding a child predator.
@@viciousdope66 I disagree, its never too late baby. His name should be tarnished forever and he should get as much heat as possible for it now while he still has access to oxygen.
I love that your channel sparks so much conversation amongst people with the same interests. The comments are usually worth the conversation about protecting yourself and your loved ones. Thank you for your videos
jeepers creepers was once my favorite horror movie; i had learned about the director not that long ago, but i had no idea he has continued to get work despite his crimes. this case is what really challenged my own morals regarding “separating the art vs the artist” because of how much i loved the movies and the creeper character. to this day the only way i’ll watch the movies are on thrifted dvds, as much as i love the work, the man behind it is deplorable in the most literal sense. there can be ethical ways to consume content from bad people, but i think its important to continue to talk about what salvo has done. thank you for always talking about the things people often forget about, or have never even heard about.
The fact that he got 3 years and did 15 months kills me. Our justice system is so f**ked
This is what happens when you give evil people power and privilege. Just imagine how many other sick directors are out there who do the same or worse.
If that would have been in egypt, he would have been shot
I was sad that the deadmeat channel wasn’t gonna cover Jeepers Creepers series but after watching this video I understand where James is coming from.
He probably will cover it once Victor dies
Rewatched jeepers creepers 2 recently and nearly every teenage boy has their shirt off at some point there’s even a shot where all the boys are laying topless on top of a bus it’s really disturbing rewatching it now knowing what type of person the director is was he really interested in making the film or was he just using it as an excuse to fulfil some vile fantasy
I was just saying the exact same thing to a friend earlier. It makes you look at the scenes like that in a whole new light.
The scene where they're taking a leak in a line... I'm rethinking several scenes atp
If you notice in both JC 1 & 2, Jeepers seems to like “eating” boys/men far more than females. And in part 1, Jeepers enjoys sniffing Darry’s underwear, in which the waitress said he “sure was liking it”, or in part 2 when his eyes roll back in his head before he licks the window after choosing most of the guys/males on the bus.
Oh, & I forgot the scene where Jeepers French kisses the decapitated “strip-o-gram” cop before eating his tongue.
I know. EVERY teen boy. I agree with you on everything you said.
This is really an infuriating case. He calls it a "mistake". A mistake is to put salt instead of sugar in your coffee and not to plan on s#xually abusing children.
watch this narcissist smirking when the microphone is in front of him, yet when the microphone is removed he stops smirking & holds his breath, it shows how narcissists feed off attention, completely oblivious to how they come across or are perceived
As a horror fan especially of Jeepers Creepers I wondered why there wasn't a Dead Meat killcount. James Janisse made me abit aware of this weirdo but you really broke it down to make me understand how much a monster this guy is. I never heard of the Clown house movie, but hearing these details makes me never want to. Thanks for the information.
Yeah I feel the same way
Yeah, Victor Salva is very much rejected by the horror community. Everyone I know in the UK community knows what he has done and despises him, rags on his lack of skill and he's banned from every film festival and most cinemas.
Dead By Daylight refuses to have the Creeper unless Salva loses the rights to the character or dies
Yeah James pretty much refuses to do a kill count until at least Salva is dead…..if ever.
@@rubymeaddle So, let's get to work!
how on earth can you have a legally binding contract that minors can’t go to the police about abuse
That’s simply not true, the contract probably stated something to the effect of not contacting police for any incidents on set without first consulting the production company.
@@tom2tones223 exactly. They tucked it into some other clause. I'm sure those contracts are so long. Nathan's family lawyer just said "it's good to sign." IF they even had one..
"Buying a ticket, getting a small popcorn..."
You see that man? He ain't never had a small popcorn.
I was never big on Jeepers Creepers, then I heard about Salvas actions and I really didn't care to watch it. Honestly, the fact that he served such a short amount of time and is still able to work is sad and disgusting. I saw an interview on the guy he molested as a kid. Hope he recovers.
Can’t believe the story about Coppola isn’t more well known. That’s extremely messed up.
Coppola probably had his involvement barried down deep. if u watch the mini series the offer it shows u how ruthless the movie industry is just like the mafia the movie industry base slot of it's movies from. from hearing what Coppola did he was just as ruthless as the criminals in his movies. using his money to hide his despicable actions and ruining Nathan winters or God knows how many other lives just to protect the industry. as my father says to me never meet ur heros because they turn out to be a villain
Yeah me too this is the first time I heard about this
Thank god somebody said something. And Francis ford Coppola helped him get famous. They’re both horrible.
Woah. It's hard to think of Nathan having to go to Coppola's house for 8 hrs a day after Coppola sued his family.... Did Nathan have a guardian with him at this time or was he by himself? That is just pure mental torture for a victim, omg my heart is so heavy right now. Thank you for this Dreading, I had no idea about Coppola's connection.
@Heartattack 77 most have home studio's..
@KennyKissKiss Coppola has his own recording studio at home, plenty of richer directors did at the time. Nowadays the tech is so inexpensive relatively speaking that anyone can have one
My mother accompanyed me every day I had to be at Coppola's house. Heres a little food for thought. While at Coppola's house after dubbing was finished for the day. Coppola's then teenaged daughter Sofia was celebrating her 16th birthday. She had 2 friends over, several brand new cars parked on the front lawn to choose from as her and her 2 friends played croquet and drinking st. Paulie's girls out of green bottles they noticed me watching and came to talk to me. They were extremely flirty with my 12 year old self and asked me to convince my mother to allow me to stay the night there and celebrate her birthday as a guest. I begged my mom for over an hour but she refused to let me stay. At the time I was really pissed off at her but as an adult in hind sight I understand completely and am very grateful. It begs the question what did Sofia have in mind asking a 12 year old boy at 16 to stay the night?
@KennyKissKissthis is Coppola we're talking about my friend. He has a studio and full sized theater built at his mansion in Napa Valley California. All the dubbing was done at his house in his studio.
If that was true about Francis Ford Coppola knowing what happened and blaming the boy for reporting it! He lost all respect in my eyes! It's disgusting if you still support someone who is capable of harming a child!!
I'm shocked to learn this about Francis involvement in this I have lost my respect for him
I have a list of actors I no longer watch. Tom Hanks is one. Anytime I find out people were involved in this machine, so to say, I boycott them. There are great movies I will not watch. Steven Speilberg is a hard one....what he did to the little girl, Heather O'Rourke. That's a little known story in Poltergeist that she didn't die from a rare disease. She died of painful Sepsis. Internally. From some horrible sexual deviance.
As a grown woman that nearly died of Sepsis, I can't imagine how Heather must have felt. She was left with that man constantly!! 🥺 what they say about the red shoes, idk. It's completely possible, ANYTHING is.
They claim the song Davie Bowie sings "Let's Dance" refers to SS. "Put on your red shoes and dance the blues."
That's all speculation. I don't watch SS movies. I'm interested in Jeepers Creeper 2, to see what Salva did do, but I can't sit through the whole thing.
Salvas "helping" kids is young offenders is a disgusting thing.
Nathan advocating is an amazing thing. 💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜
@@rebeccabejenaru what has Tom Hanks done?
@@rebeccabejenaru its nice to see I'm not alone and I literally haven't shut up about Heather since I learned 10 years ago..(I'm 32)
@@jackhamilton9604 Some people believe Tom got involved with Jeffery Epstein's dirty backyard because he was in the flight logs. And some time later, he was staying in Greece where the age of consent is younger
And I guess it's also believed that Steven Spielberg sodomized Heather O'Rourke during the filming of Poltergeist (first I've ever heard of this!)
I suppose both could be true and I just don't want to believe them. But I don't see any damning evidence
The fact that you guys are still here creating amazing content for us despite always being demonetized is just unbelievable. This channel is the BEST.
Glad this is being brought up again. I feel alot of people try to hide the directors history when discussing the film or at least make sure to not mention the topic at all when talking about. It's always good to have more awareness about this stuff.
I had heard about the charges against him but never knew about the gross injustice done to the victim. This is extremely upsetting, especially when it comes to Coppola. The fact the he saw nothing wrong with what Salva did, and continued to defend and work with him, just proves that the corruption and perversion in Hollywood runs rampant.
“making a slasher film is one of the easiest things to do” tell me you don’t know anything about filmmaking without telling me you know nothing about filmmaking
Yeah no movie is easy to make, slashers are the easiest but it’s by no means a small feat
@@Wufffles do you know how much work goes into making those kills look and feel real? or look like they aren’t fake? ppl put in time to make the blood, make prosthetics….
@@Wufffles easiest thing to make is, like, a romcom or a michael bay movie
@@bojo07Romcom definitely the easiest my bad
Making a slasher film is easy. Making a good slasher film isn’t easy.
I like the first 2 Jeepers Creepers films. It just sucks that it came from this guy's mind. Of course, he took some inspiration from the Unsolved Mysteries episode as well as IT. The guy said that he is not a fan of gore. He prefers things that get under your skin...yeah, I'm sure you do. Creep.
He confuses his opinion on horror of anything for that matter to be worth anything. It’s worth lesser then him as a person already is.
Which unsolved mysteries episode are you talking about? I’m watching the show right now. I’m curious.
Yeah, it's nigh impossible to watch any Roman Polanski films, Johnny Depp films, Kevin Spacey films, Mel Gibson films, Bryan Singer films, Harvey Weinstein films, Joss Wheden films, and now Coppola films. When will the list stop?
@@snozberry87 The episode is about Dennis DePue.
@@princeofcupspoc9073 why Depp?
I DID NOT KNOW THIS! These people make it so hard to enjoy ANYTHING! It seems like this industry is full of abusers. I can't listen to certain music, watch certain films, etc b/c of these people. They keep coming up again and again. They are so unbelievably disturbing. I cannot believe the shear level of protection these people gain. Aren't we supposed to protect the powerless? OMG! Thank you, dreading, for making this film and sharing this information. You are doing a fantastic job. I appreciate this.
Steven Speilberg is just as nasty..
I do have one suggestion...why don't we do our own stories? Why don't people produce their own films and stories with people who are morally correct and not tied to the hypocrisy of Hollywood and the depravity
Just watching Salva’s creepy smiling all throughout the video makes this whole story that more scary than it already is!
He is obviously mentally stunted. His smiles and behavior is very childlike.
it's disgusting, how Salva not only saw himself as the victim but how many people back him, as well as allowed him to continue to have access to minors.
So much admiration and warm wishes for Nathan - have heard about his story but hadn't heard it from him himself; that he has been putting himself out there for the sake of other potential survivors knowing that this man is still alive, well and working with allies requires such a grounded understanding of process, justice and spirit. May he continue to have the support he needs in the face of evils in Hollywood.
this guy gets away but Bryan Singer didn't - they should all be held accountable 😞
There's no way in hell Disney didn't know he went to prison, unless the person hiring didn't do their job. I think the entertainment industry knows who are terrible people and look past it because there's too many of them and it'd be harder to find someone that wasn't terrible. I mean, look at the movie Amsterdam coming out soon. The director David O. Russell admitted to SA-ing his niece, plus he's a terrible person to work with in general (Clooney almost beat the crap out of him on set because he abused an extra on set in front of everyone) and BIG names are STILL working with him to make that movie (including Taylor Swift, Anya Taylor-Joy, Margot Robbie, Christian Bale, Chris Rock, etc).
Why hold others to a "high" (the bare minimum, really) standard if you yourself are doing shady things too? I'm very suspicious of his pal Francis for pushing that hard to cover Victor's ass....
It’s a sad fact that these big corporations turn a blind eye, look at Nickelodeon! There’s no accountability and in my book anybody especially people in positions of trust that turns a blind eye and let’s abuse continue is as guilty as the pieces of sh#t that abuse !
Like the actor that did the voice for the mirror on the disney channel show Suite life of Zach and Cody, was a convicted pedophile when they hired him. Disney only hires creeps
Quite true. Disney is so full of shit, and any insurance company that would insure the production is not worth its weight if they don't require comprehensive background checks for major staffed positions. Total bullshit that they didn't know.
Disney is that company who puts out good entertainment but as a company are money hungry idiots who’ll do anything for money even if it means unethical shit.
Disney/Club 33 is intertwined in Freemasonry/Illuminati, Satanism, & much more.
thank you for covering this now we finally have an accessible source of info about this case because its such a messed up rabbithole that not many ppl know the full story about
It really is a rabbit hole. It can go deeper though.
I had no idea how far this went. I had heard about him a little bit after the jeepers creepers movie came out years ago when i was a teen, but I just heard he was a bad guy, and no one ever specified why. Now I know, thanks to this video.
The biggest shame is people support him with their wallets.
The controversy around "Powder" was a huge deal at the time. For what it's worth, it kept my family from ever watching that movie.
I didn't know....that's too bad. I thought it was safe. I guess not!
Thank you for bringing to light cases like this. I didn't know this repulsive POS, and thank goodness I never supported any of his work. Coppola is just as disgusting for making sure POS goes free and putting pressure on the victim's family. More people should know about this case.
What did Coppola do? Edit: nvm I got to that part in the video
@@TheNoSuchThingPodcast exactly what they said he did in their comment. Sued the family of the victim and helped him get film deals all while knowing he's a pedophile
Right. I bought Jeepers Creepers dvd when it came out. Had I known this I wouldn't have.
@@TheNoSuchThingPodcast for helping victor salva sentencing and sued the child actor families.
@@papahades2982 yeah I hadn’t gotten to that part yet. Always loved him. Not now. Disgusting
I did hear about this not long after learning about the Jeepers Creepers films. I discovered them through watching a (now late) favorite TH-cam channel of mine watching and reviewing the first two, and then refusing to review the third one, or anything made by Victor. This is both because he just hated both films, and also because he discovered and was appalled with Victor's disgusting actions, and that "he would not watch any more of his films out of sheer principle".
Very good move on his end in my eyes.
RIP Emer.
I just watched Clownhouse on TH-cam and after watching on it I read an article about the director and the actor he assaulted. I couldn't believe I had never heard of it before. An hour later you post this in depth video with all the details. Thank you!
That's some synchronicity for you!!
That pedophile ring of wealthy rich people extends into a lot of countries, specially in third world countries were their is little to no regulation on the matter and the authorities and justice system is impotent when a bribe is presented up front. We appreciate the hard work you put in investigating all of these subjects and profiles, we love your channel. Cheers from Guatemala!
It's bad , bohemian grove shit
@@josefmengele181LMFAO follow your leader Quitler's example into the dirt you filth 😂😂 do it soon, nobody is going to miss you 😢😂😂
@@josefmengele181even your family can't stand to be around you, your mother's ashamed of what a weak little boy she raised 😂 you should end it 😂
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Thank you for shedding light on these monsters who are still among young actors in Hollywood. Nathan is such a brave person. I was a victim of SA by someone in my family. I didn't have the courage to disclose it until my abuser was dead, when I was 23. I wish I had told when it happened (age 11), then possibly my younger sister (who was 6 then) wouldn't have been abused also. I denied us both justice forever by keeping quiet.
Keep being strong and using your voice!
I'm so sorry that happened to you and your sister
This is one of my favourite channels of all time. I've never been so consistent in watching videos quickly or multiple times. I just adore the quality of content. I've never subscribed to a patreon before, but I will be for this one. Thank you Dreading
Wow another empty desperate starved for approval and attention sheep.
Ditto
Agreed!
Dreading takes the dread out of the day ❤️
Bruh same I search the name “dreading” every day to see if there’s a new video
Without your story, I would never have known this about this adult man. Thank you for showing how he is able to form “ Family Friendships.”
Thank you for sharing this story. Wish more people knew about these predators among us.
That’s why I advocate for men who are over 40 date people their own age instead of people young enough to be their children.
The way you narrate and script these videos is better than all veteran youtubers and easily on par with production houses! Especially all the empathy you show to the victims is admirable to say the least... Been on TH-cam for a decade and more now and this is one of the only channels I actually anticipate to upload. Keep up the amazing work man!