Looks like a whole lot of fun to me. Can't really beat the price. Fairly easy to build. Easy to transport. Safe to capsize. Can have crew. Checks all my boxes. Thanks for this build series of videos!
Question , in an earlier video on rigging you used the term spectra loops. Is this a brand name in your area ? I am guessing it is some sort of dyneema that you spliced in yourself. Thanks an interesting change from the first build.
Hi Joseph, I think Dyneema and Spectra are both trademarks for pretty much the same material, some variation of UHMWPE, Ultra High Molecular Weight Polyethylene. And yes I spliced it in place around the tack reef cringles.
Teo, I took Mother Goose out yesterday, 11 knots with 20 gust, and that thing flies, never thought it would like that! It responds really quick, but I really need to learn how to reef the sail, because I like it nice and (kinda) slow😬😬😬😬
Hi Inês! That is awesome! I'm really happy that you are enjoying your Goose that much! Reefing is very quick and easy and can be done afloat in about one minute. Have a look at this video first! th-cam.com/video/-euDKefeNTo/w-d-xo.html 😉
@@TheBoatRambler Build a new mast and make or buy a sail of about 10 sq meters. OR, add a jib and move the mast aft to suit the center of sail area. Looks like a great little boat !
Mate, I would love to see one of these loaded up with a family of four, two adults and two kids. would be interested to see how she handles and stability?
Thanks for taking us with you on your solo sail. I especially like hearing your comments from the boat, and your reactions as you hit a plane. You mentioned wanting a little larger sail. What size is your sail? It was custom, right?
So does it lack rudder authority at lower speeds? You said you need to keep speed up but did not explain your demo with the rudder. Are you thinking the rudder needs to be larger?
Hi Liam, the rudder works really well at any speed. The reason to try to keep the speed up is so that she lifts the bow and goes over the chop without pounding too much.
Hi, I have no idea, I have never sailed her in low winds. But I would say you need a much bigger sail for such low winds. And depending on what you want the boat for, you could pick a boat with less wetted surface.
Boa noite, aqui é do Brasil. Sou entuziasta do seu trabalho conheço todos os seus video. Tenho um pergunta. Relacionada ao oz goose que você construiu. Qual a altura do mastro e qual o diametro da base do mastro.Daqui agradeço estas informações. The Boat Rambler esta muito bom.
Interesting and skilful sailing technique. So how much are you pointing at speed? I used to race my finn against lasers in all comers races by pointing far into the wind in 15knots albeit slowly. They were obviously faster but i traveled less distance. And into the wind. I also sail Stevenson weekenders which are also fast on a reach but struggle to point. Your boat is very impressive. Looks alot of fun. Thanks for the great videos.
I can't say how much I'm pointing, it's very hard to guess due to the apparent wind. The main thing is, if I slow down the boat pounds quite a bit so keeping the speed is almost mandatory.
Been following this project since your selection videos, are you sailing in a lake? or is that sea? i'm also interested with goose but worrying about constant waves that we have in Aegean sea
Hi, thanks for watching. I sail the Tagus river and estuary. I think it might be trickier to sail than out on the sea. The chop here gets really nasty with a short period which is very hard on any small boat.
Pergunta indiscreta - qto é que tu pesas? Essa curiosidade pq tenho 110 quilinhos e um metro e 82 de altura, tou pensando como é q seria o performance deste Skiff com o meu peso?
The flat bow is the one thing that would concern me, wonder if you could add a bit of a vee shape into the build... Still looks like a really nice wee boat and loads of fun!
I think the flat bow is only a problem for our eyes. When sailing the bow never touches the water so it's irrelevant if it's square or not. I guess the bottom could have a bit of a "v" but that would make it harder to build.
Your main sheet doesn't allow you to pull up hard on the wind with that set up. I prefer to have the transom block fixed at the middle. If you were hard on the wind it would really start to thump. The problem with this hull design is that there are no compound curves so it's never going to be as stiff. Back in the late seventies a National 12 design called Punkerella was made from tortured ply. It was a stroke of genius and produced a new generation of stiff light hulls. Ply gets much stronger when you twist and bend it. You no longer need buoyancy tanks to stiffen up the hull. With an extra chine and more beam the goat island skiff would be more stable and more powerful up wind. A flared hull also gives better secondary stability when heeled. One other thing. You have Lee helm. Move your mast back a bit if you can.
Hi Josch, When I chose the Goose I took in consideration every skiff I know and analyzed all pros and cons. Unfortunately the boat you describe does NOT exist yet! And I needed to build a boat yesterday! There’s no point thinking of could should would. It takes a long time to develop a boat and bring it to building stages. And you don’t even know if it will work! The Goose is still one of the most fun skiffs I have ever sailed and the options that it gives me are unmatched by any other skiff known to me. Even when hard on the wind it will never be more than 45 degrees to the chop, and if speed is up it will go really well. More chines and tortured ply would make for a harder and more time consuming build. The side tanks are an awesome feature. They make the boat unsinkable, they make it easy to self rescue and I can store stuff in them when cruising, I like them and I actually made some on my GIS! The sheeting arrangement is the same as on my GIS, on a Laser and many racing dinghies. As for the lee helm yes you are correct I noticed it when soloing. It varies a bit with crew number and position… but I will try bringing the sail 2” further back. There is no adjustment on the mast. Cheers, Teo
@@TheBoatRambler If you have a few clamps to pull the prow together, a bulkhead bow tank to torture and form the plys too, you only need a transom to form the hull using stitch and glue. It's as easy as folding a napkin. A simple plywood jig would hold everything in alignment front and back. Take a piece of paper, fold a centre line down the middle. Then take the top and pinch the sides together. That's your bow. Let the back fall out flat and that's your transom. EASY. In fact the boat I mentioned was designed using a napkin to demonstrate the hull shape ! Why don't contemporary boat designer's use this simple trick ? Bloody mindedness. I have never liked the Laser style centre main sheet system. It tends to get caught up on the transom or rudder. I prefer water proof bags and plastic eskis for storage. Dinghy cruising is a growing interest. It just needs a naval architect to pull his finger out and give us a design that exploits laser cutting accuracy to make building accurately and quickly foolproof. The Wayfarer is a classic design that could be reinvented for lightness. I will never forget the first time I sailed a Topper upwind in a choppy blow. Eurgh. The GP14 and Heron are good designs. Many people have adapted them to overnight cruising. In the old days they had buoyancy bags. Very light. Worked perfectly well in a capsize.
Something happened and TH-cam let me comment comment? HAd to turn my phone off, turn it back on. . Working on boats is a big turn off for me. Because I'm always having to work on somebody's boat. However I do think you did an excellent job. I'm not a big fan of wood. But I do believe you're on to something in that build. I wonder if it was longer with a layateen sail ... Unbelievably good job though. If you make a dinghy like that out of fiberglass you can go into production. But therefore how ever I absolutely know my luck..?:-) a damn daggerboard is flirting with disaster. I run brown or black murky water. In what may be miles and miles of Open water that will go from 13 ft too 2 ft. Not to mention gas pipelines, running everywhere under the water . They don't move, stop you dead in your tracks. Pull my boat out to do a bottom job. Had two big dents in my cast iron fin keel. a 6-inch pipeline groove dent. and a 3-inch groove dent . So sailing around here in New Orleans. the big mud puddle! Can be extremely exciting. as long as I don't spill my beer I'm all right.So glad to see you sell at it again and doing it. Good luck out there your friend.The Nolan.
Hi buddy, there is a reason I don't take a job as a skipper or fixing boats...once you mix business with pleasure the romance fades quickly! If I can avoid it I will, if not...well, embrace the suck! 😅 These dinghies can sail well with 2ft daggerboards but if you want to play safe you could build a swing keel . You will still be fixing dents but your beer would be safe! I really want to go back to NOLA some day. Cheers, Teo
LOL ! ..... Goose is a Good Name ... It's Ugly ! ... it's Dangerous ! ... It's quick to Bite you ! ... It's will take your head off ! ... It's Difficult to control ! ... It's Unpredictable ! ... It's hard on the Ass ! ..... That boat was a bad Idea ! ..... With no Bow and a Flat bottom ... You have nothing to help the boat Hold the Water ! ... Except a Skinny keel and rudder ... So , the Hand Controls , Snap Dangerously and are Unforgiving ! ....... Now it's Back to the Drawing Board , Einstein , to somehow FIX IT !! Cheers ! :-D
I take it you are not a fan of the Maxi 650 scow bow by IDB Marine. Hits speeds in excess of 24 knots. Transatlantic racer. Wide beam to length ratio. No pointy bow.
Looks like a whole lot of fun to me. Can't really beat the price. Fairly easy to build. Easy to transport. Safe to capsize. Can have crew. Checks all my boxes. Thanks for this build series of videos!
Thanks for watching!
So fast! I am learning to ignore the box shape - it’s a fabulous boat design.
It really is! 😁
The goose looks like a blast. I have a puddle duck (the 8' predecessor to the goose) and it seems to sail similarly, just slower. Enjoy!
I bought plans a few years ago. I need to build this thing! Looks awesome.
Looks like a great result from your careful process -- now you get to enjoy the fun part! 😁
Very happy with the outcome! 😁
Sou do Brazil, vou comprar o projeto e construir em breve!
Parabens por tomares essa decisão! O Oz Goose é provavelmente o barco mais versátil que conheço!
She does look like fun!
Abs flying! Great result 👍⛵️
Thanks 👍
What a fantastic feeling of freedom it must be...
Nice sail Teo.
Boat performs great.
Thanks Mike
That ride looks really stable. The ugly duckling it might be, but it sails like a champ.
Now that looks like fun, exciting to watch.
Thanks for watching George!
you look more comfortable with the main sheet block than the previous video
It's much easier to hold and control than straight from the boom.
Impressionante que este barco orce tão bem. Imaginava que sua performance seria melhor com ventos de través ou popa. Um Abraço!
Abraço
great
Hi if the boat slams a bit you can sit more to the rear as advised by Mr Storer keep well
Hi Louis,
I move back and forwards depending on point of sail, chop height and speed. But I'm still learning 😁
Question , in an earlier video on rigging you used the term spectra loops. Is this a brand name in your area ? I am guessing it is some sort of dyneema that you spliced in yourself. Thanks an interesting change from the first build.
Hi Joseph, I think Dyneema and Spectra are both trademarks for pretty much the same material, some variation of UHMWPE, Ultra High Molecular Weight Polyethylene. And yes I spliced it in place around the tack reef cringles.
Teo, I took Mother Goose out yesterday, 11 knots with 20 gust, and that thing flies, never thought it would like that! It responds really quick, but I really need to learn how to reef the sail, because I like it nice and (kinda) slow😬😬😬😬
Hi Inês!
That is awesome! I'm really happy that you are enjoying your Goose that much!
Reefing is very quick and easy and can be done afloat in about one minute.
Have a look at this video first! th-cam.com/video/-euDKefeNTo/w-d-xo.html 😉
Have you thought about trying your GIS sail on the Goose? I checked and it is a little more than 1 meter square larger.
Hi Paul,
the mast wont fit on the Goose and the sail is too big for the Goose's mast!
@@TheBoatRambler Build a new mast and make or buy a sail of about 10 sq meters. OR, add a jib and move the mast aft to suit the center of sail area. Looks like a great little boat !
Mate, I would love to see one of these loaded up with a family of four, two adults and two kids. would be interested to see how she handles and stability?
There will be a day during summer when that might happen for sure! 😉
Thanks for taking us with you on your solo sail. I especially like hearing your comments from the boat, and your reactions as you hit a plane. You mentioned wanting a little larger sail. What size is your sail? It was custom, right?
Hi Jerry,
My sail is a standard OZ Goose sail by Really Simple Sails and it's 8 sqm.
So does it lack rudder authority at lower speeds? You said you need to keep speed up but did not explain your demo with the rudder. Are you thinking the rudder needs to be larger?
Hi Liam,
the rudder works really well at any speed. The reason to try to keep the speed up is so that she lifts the bow and goes over the chop without pounding too much.
what boat speed, if wind 5 knts ?? we do not have stronger winds here. 5 knts is strong around here
Hi,
I have no idea, I have never sailed her in low winds. But I would say you need a much bigger sail for such low winds. And depending on what you want the boat for, you could pick a boat with less wetted surface.
Looks fun. Sorry about the banal comments for the algorithm
Thanks for watching Rob!
Nice boat (and build !)... but why don't you put the Gps-speedo in knots (and not in mph... nearly 10% of difference !)
The stats are added in Insta360's studio and there are only two options, kmh or mph.
@@TheBoatRambler Cool, then why not use the international standard as used by all but a very few percentage points of the world's population ? :)
@@benalla39 because mph is much closer to kt than kmh. In this speed range I just remove 0.5 from the Mph value and the error margin is acceptable.😉
@@TheBoatRambler pity it doesn't have metres per second. Then you could just double it
Boa noite, aqui é do Brasil. Sou entuziasta do seu trabalho conheço todos os seus video. Tenho um pergunta. Relacionada ao oz goose que você construiu. Qual a altura do mastro e qual o diametro da base do mastro.Daqui agradeço estas informações. The Boat Rambler esta muito bom.
Oi Paulo.
O mastro é quadrado, tem cerca de 4m de comprimento e 65mm de largura ao nivel do deck.
Looks so much fun! How did you attach the main sheet in the middle?
Hi, have a look at this video, it shows all the rigging including the mainsheet setup(s) 😉
When do we see the capsize test?
Hi,
very soon! let the water warm up a bit! 😅
Interesting and skilful sailing technique. So how much are you pointing at speed? I used to race my finn against lasers in all comers races by pointing far into the wind in 15knots albeit slowly. They were obviously faster but i traveled less distance. And into the wind. I also sail Stevenson weekenders which are also fast on a reach but struggle to point. Your boat is very impressive. Looks alot of fun. Thanks for the great videos.
I can't say how much I'm pointing, it's very hard to guess due to the apparent wind.
The main thing is, if I slow down the boat pounds quite a bit so keeping the speed is almost mandatory.
Accelerates like a sports car! Throw some gear in it for weight when you are solo and it should help you out.
I will soon start preparing her for some cruising! 😁
If you need more sail area use your goat rig several have done it works well
Hi John,
The GIS's mast is 70cm longer than the Goose's and it won't fit in the mast partner or mast step.
Looks fast and stable. I just wonder if the slapping would become really annoying, as you aren't going to be above 6kts all the time?
I imagine that on lower winds there wont be as much chop either but it will never be a silent boat.
Been following this project since your selection videos, are you sailing in a lake? or is that sea? i'm also interested with goose but worrying about constant waves that we have in Aegean sea
Hi, thanks for watching.
I sail the Tagus river and estuary. I think it might be trickier to sail than out on the sea. The chop here gets really nasty with a short period which is very hard on any small boat.
Pergunta indiscreta - qto é que tu pesas? Essa curiosidade pq tenho 110 quilinhos e um metro e 82 de altura, tou pensando como é q seria o performance deste Skiff com o meu peso?
E e a Marina juntos pesamos 125kg e a performance podes ver aqui 😉 th-cam.com/video/vku9563nT6o/w-d-xo.html
Muito bom Obrigado! Essa "caixinha" se mexe, mesmo com dois a bordo!
The flat bow is the one thing that would concern me, wonder if you could add a bit of a vee shape into the build... Still looks like a really nice wee boat and loads of fun!
I think the flat bow is only a problem for our eyes. When sailing the bow never touches the water so it's irrelevant if it's square or not. I guess the bottom could have a bit of a "v" but that would make it harder to build.
...that would make it a Mirror Dinghy.
You might need that extra mast length for a bigger sail option!
I think so too! maybe next season! 😉
Sailboat is about freedom. Choper bikes is freedom for those who afraid of water.
😁😁
Your main sheet doesn't allow you to pull up hard on the wind with that set up. I prefer to have the transom block fixed at the middle.
If you were hard on the wind it would really start to thump.
The problem with this hull design is that there are no compound curves so it's never going to be as stiff.
Back in the late seventies a National 12 design called Punkerella was made from tortured ply. It was a stroke of genius and produced a new generation of stiff light hulls.
Ply gets much stronger when you twist and bend it.
You no longer need buoyancy tanks to stiffen up the hull.
With an extra chine and more beam the goat island skiff would be more stable and more powerful up wind. A flared hull also gives better secondary stability when heeled.
One other thing. You have Lee helm. Move your mast back a bit if you can.
Hi Josch,
When I chose the Goose I took in consideration every skiff I know and analyzed all pros and cons.
Unfortunately the boat you describe does NOT exist yet! And I needed to build a boat yesterday! There’s no point thinking of could should would. It takes a long time to develop a boat and bring it to building stages. And you don’t even know if it will work!
The Goose is still one of the most fun skiffs I have ever sailed and the options that it gives me are unmatched by any other skiff known to me.
Even when hard on the wind it will never be more than 45 degrees to the chop, and if speed is up it will go really well.
More chines and tortured ply would make for a harder and more time consuming build.
The side tanks are an awesome feature. They make the boat unsinkable, they make it easy to self rescue and I can store stuff in them when cruising, I like them and I actually made some on my GIS!
The sheeting arrangement is the same as on my GIS, on a Laser and many racing dinghies.
As for the lee helm yes you are correct I noticed it when soloing. It varies a bit with crew number and position… but I will try bringing the sail 2” further back. There is no adjustment on the mast.
Cheers,
Teo
@@TheBoatRambler
If you have a few clamps to pull the prow together, a bulkhead bow tank to torture and form the plys too, you only need a transom to form the hull using stitch and glue. It's as easy as folding a napkin. A simple plywood jig would hold everything in alignment front and back.
Take a piece of paper, fold a centre line down the middle.
Then take the top and pinch the sides together. That's your bow.
Let the back fall out flat and that's your transom. EASY.
In fact the boat I mentioned was designed using a napkin to demonstrate the hull shape !
Why don't contemporary boat designer's use this simple trick ?
Bloody mindedness.
I have never liked the Laser style centre main sheet system. It tends to get caught up on the transom or rudder.
I prefer water proof bags and plastic eskis for storage.
Dinghy cruising is a growing interest. It just needs a naval architect to pull his finger out and give us a design that exploits laser cutting accuracy to make building accurately and quickly foolproof.
The Wayfarer is a classic design that could be reinvented for lightness.
I will never forget the first time I sailed a Topper upwind in a choppy blow. Eurgh.
The GP14 and Heron are good designs. Many people have adapted them to overnight cruising. In the old days they had buoyancy bags. Very light. Worked perfectly well in a capsize.
Something happened and TH-cam let me comment comment? HAd to turn my phone off, turn it back on. . Working on boats is a big turn off for me. Because I'm always having to work on somebody's boat. However I do think you did an excellent job. I'm not a big fan of wood. But I do believe you're on to something in that build. I wonder if it was longer with a layateen sail ... Unbelievably good job though. If you make a dinghy like that out of fiberglass you can go into production. But therefore how ever I absolutely know my luck..?:-) a damn daggerboard is flirting with disaster. I run brown or black murky water. In what may be miles and miles of Open water that will go from 13 ft too 2 ft. Not to mention gas pipelines, running everywhere under the water . They don't move, stop you dead in your tracks. Pull my boat out to do a bottom job. Had two big dents in my cast iron fin keel. a 6-inch pipeline groove dent. and a 3-inch groove dent . So sailing around here in New Orleans. the big mud puddle! Can be extremely exciting. as long as I don't spill my beer I'm all right.So glad to see you sell at it again and doing it. Good luck out there your friend.The Nolan.
Hi buddy,
there is a reason I don't take a job as a skipper or fixing boats...once you mix business with pleasure the romance fades quickly! If I can avoid it I will, if not...well, embrace the suck! 😅
These dinghies can sail well with 2ft daggerboards but if you want to play safe you could build a swing keel . You will still be fixing dents but your beer would be safe!
I really want to go back to NOLA some day.
Cheers,
Teo
it needs foils Man
😎😎😎
LOL ! ..... Goose is a Good Name ... It's Ugly ! ... it's Dangerous ! ... It's quick to Bite you ! ... It's will take your head off ! ... It's Difficult to control ! ... It's Unpredictable ! ... It's hard on the Ass ! ..... That boat was a bad Idea ! ..... With no Bow and a Flat bottom ... You have nothing to help the boat Hold the Water ! ... Except a Skinny keel and rudder ... So , the Hand Controls , Snap Dangerously and are Unforgiving ! ....... Now it's Back to the Drawing Board , Einstein , to somehow FIX IT !! Cheers ! :-D
You really have no idea what you are talking about have you? 😏
LMAO. That's like saying a F1 car needs a redesign because you can't bring your groceries. Atleast you put some effort into your trolling 😂
@@noldushumlesnurr6169
You really have no idea what you are talking about have you? 😀
I take it you are not a fan of the Maxi 650 scow bow by IDB Marine. Hits speeds in excess of 24 knots. Transatlantic racer. Wide beam to length ratio. No pointy bow.
@@paulvandal4444 I don't like it either ! ... Scow Bow , LOL I