Decent Espresso] I cannot believe the machines steam that differently DE1XXL vs DE1PRO

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    Comparing steaming on DE1PRO and DE1XXL
    Winner Winner.... make more latte I guess.
    Enjoy!
    Timeline--------------------------
    00:00 Previously
    00:09 Why no difference
    01:21 Difference
    01:48 4.0ml/s vs 2.5ml/s
    07:14 2.5ml/s vs 2.5ml/s
    10:32 So
    11:48 Continuous Steam
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    - DE1XXL
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  • @dozensofus
    @dozensofus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for the comparison. Quite informative!

    • @coffeeshin2788
      @coffeeshin2788  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you so much for watching!

  • @orrinbelcher6593
    @orrinbelcher6593 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool video, cool steaming comparison, cool music, superbly fun superbly done

  • @ElecBrane
    @ElecBrane 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Shin is setting the freakiness level to the max

  • @DJaquithFL
    @DJaquithFL 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The only *problem* is you'll need to run 240V especially if you live in places like the USA (standard is 15A @ 120V 60Hz). I believe South Korea is 220V standard. It's the reason I'm looking at their DE1XL.

  • @RyanStephens-86753
    @RyanStephens-86753 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Would setting the steam temp higher minimize added water on xxl?

  • @steveny1087
    @steveny1087 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Could you share how did you connect a external monitor as a display? Is it physically connected to a tablet and mirror it?

  • @NAWAF-vc1px
    @NAWAF-vc1px 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    how do you find the 3 hole tip on the DE1XL? does it add more water compared to the DE1XXL due to smaller wattage heater and 3 hole?

    • @coffeeshin2788
      @coffeeshin2788  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      DE1XL makes the same steam like the PRO one. So yes, it adds more water than XXL like the PRO.

  • @NAWAF-vc1px
    @NAWAF-vc1px 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    thanks. you have an older video comparing original and pro steam wands and the water added in that video was only about 30g for 250ml milk i believe. why does the new updates add more water?

    • @coffeeshin2788
      @coffeeshin2788  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Back then, we didn't have the steam flow rate calibration feature as I remembered. But now we have that and we can steam even faster. 2.5ml/s steaming wasn't doable back then. And also we can to even slower steam flow rate which have less water going in

    • @NAWAF-vc1px
      @NAWAF-vc1px 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@coffeeshin2788 thanks for the info. that makes sense. do you think the difference in steam wand on the pro vs the xxl here had anything to do with the difference in readings especially when you found out that the XXL felt more powerful while at the same 2.5ml/s rate compared to the pro. I understand that XXL has more than one hole the tip.

  • @hkamobile
    @hkamobile ปีที่แล้ว

    I can't find you man!!! JEFF

  • @zackolechnowicz4920
    @zackolechnowicz4920 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have no idea why I even care about machines I can never hope to afford... I don't even have my own espresso machine yet lmao.

    • @coffeeshin2788
      @coffeeshin2788  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Still good to know our existence ☺
      And you'll get one day!

    • @jpjay1584
      @jpjay1584 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      you can try to marry a rich woman. 2 birds with one stone😂

  • @davecrabbe4579
    @davecrabbe4579 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You did something wrong, or that first machine is really bad at steaming.. 60g of water into 200g of milk is unthinkable.. Think of it.. that is nearly 1/3 water.. I get 20g when steaming 214g from an HX machine. You might want to check your workflow.. you need to be able to steam 200g of milk and only add 10% water..

    • @coffeeshin2788
      @coffeeshin2788  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hey man~! Feel free to share your test result video. It's nothing wrong at all. If you steam for 20 seconds and it only puts 20g of water in, that means the steam flow rate is 1g/s. And that's super super super super slow.

    • @davecrabbe4579
      @davecrabbe4579 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@coffeeshin2788 I guess I have no idea what you are doing.. you are creating your first latte and steaming your milk in 25s. (Similar to what I’m doing) However, when you are done, you have added 60g of water to your milk. I can say that no espresso machine adds that much water to the milk.. Think of looking at your milk and adding 1/3 as much water.. That’d be a pretty bad drink. I’ve discussed with other people’s machines on HB.. 20g seems about right for 200g.. so not super slow.. its what they all pretty well do.

    • @coffeeshin2788
      @coffeeshin2788  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@davecrabbe4579 That's actual result that I get from 2.5ml/s vs 4.0ml/s flowrate. I mean, if I set the steam flowrate slower, the total water in the milk would be lower too as you wrote. We have some result for that. at 0.8ml/s steam flowrate, only 18g of water goes into the milk during steaming(at 1.6ml/s 39g). But the total steam time is much much longer. So as the flowrate is higher, the steam gets wetter. But I just wanted to compare the maximum steam flow rate of PRO and XXL. That's what the video is about anyway

    • @davecrabbe4579
      @davecrabbe4579 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@coffeeshin2788 ahh.. I get it now.. I wasn't seeing that the flow rate really translated to how much water was being added.. If I got a Decent I was concerned about adding 60g of water to a latte.. But now see I'd match my flow rate and heating rate to optimize whatever experience I wanted.. faster heating vs drier steam.. thanks..

    • @coffeeshin2788
      @coffeeshin2788  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah users usually set the flow as 1.4ml/s. It's slower but much easier to control the whirlpool. And less water into the milk is a plus

  • @gioiosa54
    @gioiosa54 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    but you are comparing Xl to XXL both in 220V , pls compare 110V XL to 220V XXL

  • @MVargabass
    @MVargabass 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the video! 😊 to up the freakness level invite "Kai W" for colab and make some nice videos with decent and cameras

    • @coffeeshin2788
      @coffeeshin2788  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Wow he's huge TH-camr haha. Probably one day when I become that huge.... Thanks!