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- Norma McCorvey, the plaintiff in the landmark abortions rights case, gave birth to Shelley Lynn Thornton before the law was changed. Thornton was 18 when she found out who her mother was.
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Abortion or not, I don't think selfish people should have children. Shelley dodged a bullet by not being raised by Norma. Norma sounds like a narcissist. I'm glad Shelley can keep her privacy, her opinion on abortion is personal, leave her alone.
she lied that means the case is total garbage and need to be thrown out
She had a terrible life too. Every woman should have the right to an abortion or adoption.
Also sounds like what we now call Borderline Personality Disorder, often caused by traumatic, repeated abuse
Exactly how I feel...
100 agree that selfish ppl shouldn’t have kids
Norma is a selfish and dishonest woman who shouldn't have been allowed contact with Shelley. The blessing has been that Shelley found her sister, that beautiful bond is quite a silver lining.
If it were me as her father, the very second I would have discovered that Norma was the biological mother...I would have gotten a restraining order. Norma tries to violate that then take the woman to court.
Adopted woman to adopted woman: think about growing up, your mother is the person who was there for the moments of your life. Those are the actions of love and mothering; any woman can give birth. That’s all that woman did, she’s not your mother
Exactly
I feel the same.
Agreed!
Yep, my son's DAD wanted to abort him too
@@schmittyconstanz me too but in Mexico
I love how those two sisters found support on each other!
Just because a woman can have a baby doesn't make them a good mother 😒I've been saying this forever!Look at the ones who murdered their own kids!Same with father's!My problem is alot of people have kids and cannot afford to provided basic needs to those children!
Then they should give them away to adoptive parents so that the kids can have a chance live, if they can't take care of them.
You see so much fighting for the right for someone to take a life but no fight for personal responsibility. This is ultimately a cultural issue of promiscuity. We can't blame a government or state becuase of a lack of self control. I think the public and state should ultimately decided and if someone disagrees then they can move to a state that does. If refugees from South America can escape war make it to our country and become a part of our union then a promiscuous women can move to a state where they can abort at their leisure. Makes no sense that the federal government has to proceed over something so personal, it makes more sense to allow the people to make their individual choices as republics.
God bless you Shelley you’re birth is a miracle, thank you for speaking up .. you’re so courageous. Im glad you’re born ❤️🩹 😘
I think to myself, If she did successfully get that abortion this woman wouldn’t be here, she would have never existed. That is heart breaking
@@hera7884 so you think this woman deserved all the suffering and self-hate that she has gone through? Interesting...
@@ninij9692 and you think she’s not happy 🤔
@@ninij9692 Thank you! People think adoptees are supposed to spend their entire lives so damned grateful they weren’t aborted. Most of us are sick of it. Why is it ok to treat adoptees like that but not children who are kept by their birth parents?
@@momvaz6613 you are sick for assuming that every adoptee is supposed to be grateful for being alive because they weren’t aborted. Are you an adoptee? Then STFU. Adoptees can find happiness and self-love without spending every day all day being grateful that they weren’t aborted. What about birth parents who don’t want a fourth or fifth child, but choose not to abort. Does that child have to listen to how they should be grateful they weren’t aborted every day?
Jane Roe was pregnant THREE TIMES 😳??? A woman who didn't want kids??? What happened to birth control the second and THIRD!!! times? People out there just being careless and wanting the easy way out, zero consequences.
Exactly
Pro choice = don't thinck about consequences
The easy way.
Denigration of society
Eggs zackly. That's the same exact thing I say as well. Participation trophies to boot!!! Spoilt rotten self centered disasters is what they are, the lot of them. Zero self control or responsibility.
The daughter did say that her mother was self-centered. Jane Roe probably didn't even care to use birth control. Maybe that would have inconvenienced her.
Birth control FAILS!
Jane Roe, never has an abortion.
She actually has a strong facial resemblance to her biological mother.
Ohhh really!!!!! No way
I don't see it! The good thing is that Shelley is her own person! She is not defined by who her biological Mother is!
Do not understand why she didn’t get on the pill, instead of recklessly getting pregnant
@Chief Sitting N**ga (We wuz natives!) well now there are many other choices.
Has an opinion, keeps it to herself. Bravo. Teach everyone else how to do that.
Why? How are we supposed to get things done if nobody has any input? This is a silly take.
If the question "Why?" is serious, then simply because in my experience opinions are rarely taken as useful input for getting things done and far more often taken as an opportunity to prove how right a person is by either loudly agreeing with the opinion or loudly disparaging it and calling it things like "a silly take".
On the other hand, you may be right, in which case: we're in luck! The internet has literally hundreds of millions of opinions. We'll never run out.
what a childish take. She's not apolitical, she simply doesn't want to be used by either movement and I understand that wholeheartedly.
I bet you had a huge opinion on the vaccine and mask wearing, and you let everyone know it!
Wow. I never thought about the baby of Roe v Wade... I am an adoptive Mother, my Husband is adopted & we adopted 4 children - a single & a sibling group of 3.
Honestly, I am conflicted about abortion, it's not for me.
I don't feel anyone has the right to tell a person what they can do with their body - across the board including what's happening now.
It is not their body, but a totally separate individual. People are not educated on this issue and do not know how basic biology works. Science has always confirmed that human life begins at conception. If you support abortion, then you should have no problem with somebody murdering your family. The only difference is the stage of life.
It’s not their body when there’s a person in it.
@@TodaywithJulius thats reaaallly it.
To me it has so less to do with the abortion, and the government tampering with the relationship dynamics of men and women across the country.
@mVP At the moment of conception.
2:10
If you aren't old enough to get a driver's license, what are you doing engaging in sexual relations? 🤔
Ever heard about rape. Idk I think that something a girl can’t control
Abused kids look for comfort and often end up pregnant...that's literally so commonplace it's pathetic...sad really
😥
@@k.a5765 Yeah I've heard of it. But the vast majority of abortions aren't performed for that reason
@@k.a5765 Umm, lets be real...most of these youths are deliberately and recklessly having sex. Sex at a young age has been normalized...especially unprotected. Yes, many rapes do occur but most of these girls make the decision to lay on their backs but don’t want the consequences of their actions. Hence, why they wanna have the freedom to just abort the “problem” away.
@@k.a5765 2 wrongs ≠ a right
What about the sperm donor? Where does he figure in this mess. Not fair to just blame the woman! Why didn't the man come forward and raise his children?
Exactly.
Hey I know that's right
No one even knows who the father is. Norma already gave 2 children up for abortion before Shelley. She wasn't getting it from a boyfriend or anyone like that. It's probably either a homeless guy, a drug addict or a career criminal.
@TheHighPriestess333 neither one!
Because she was probably having sex with every guy around so knowbody really knew. She was 21 on her third kid I think no one ever taught her self control.
Where are their fathers . Where is the man in all of this ??
They're in powerful positions making the laws... paying for their side chick to have abortions.
If this was truly about reducing the number of abortions, they would be arresting men who are pregnant eating women that are not their wives.
They would be enforcing vasectomy on boys before they're old enough to impregnate women, and then only allowing them to reduce that vasectomy when they're capable paying for a child to grow up.
This is all about controlling the woman and her vote.
@Michelle Andres
Not really
Sex is a two way street. A man helps to reproduce / procreate life. Where is his control . Men need to get fixed. That would also help the problem .
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Hold the men accountable too but these women should get the fathers involved at the start if they ain't good why u having a child then everyone needs to take responsibility seriously
Regardless were we all fall on this issue, we can all agree that Jane Roe was a selfish, self centered, nasty person.
I understand why Shelly is hurt by Norma's actions, or even why Norma did what she did, but that court case is bigger than both of them. I'm glad Shelly had a good life and found her sister.
So society is bigger than the individual?
@@schmittyconstanzyes it is. If it was 2 vs 300 million the law should not have emotions. Emotions are for the individuals not the state
Emotions played no part in my question,clearly emotions played a part in your response .
@@schmittyconstanz I mean you asked the question. I'm not sure why you're so upset at having your question answered.
@@Salvador_Bnoone is "upset"
Get a grip.
These two sisters reuniting, is a wonderful story. Makes me wonder though what happened to the other sibling that was also given up for adoption. Does he/she know who they are? Did he/she not want to also reunite?
As much as some people see the birth mom as the villain, I am happy to hear that she had a life change of heart before she passed into eternity. May God bless all of these people!
The structure of this story is so messed up.
Oh why
How so?
I wonder if Jennifer and Shelley ever met their other sibling
Let's take a moment to celebrate these two beautiful women and their sisterhood 🥂🍾
Omg I didn't know she was pregnant at least 3 times
Amazing story. Really puts in perspective the ability for a mother who doesn’t want a child having the ability to give a life up for adoption instead of ending that life by abortion.
How does that put it in perspective any more than any other adoption? That choice has always existed before Roe. At least for the baby. Single mothers who might have wanted to keep their child had no choice. Being single and pregnant branded them as sluts. They weren't allowed a choice, just like women who didn't want to have a baby had no choice. If you want perspective, talk to a woman who was spared having an unwanted child that would have altered the trajectory of her life. Then acknowledge that making such a choice doesn't deserve your judgement.
@@LibbyRal adoption is always an option that doesn’t end a life of another human bending unlike abortion
@@bcm9610 my point is that it doesn't put anything new in perspective. What it does do is exactly what the daughter didn't want, and that is to be used to make a point. So in addition to being perfectly ok with women being brood mares for parents who want adopt, you also have no qualms using her as a tool. Don't call yourself pro-life when all you see in living breathing humans are something to take advantage of. Little fetuses never make demands of you. So you can prattle on about them being a life, without having any accountability as to how you behave around them, and not having any responsibility.
@@LibbyRal somehow you made it through your own pregnancy without someone killing you so be very thankful to your own mother for not aborting you and hopefully you will one day stop advocating for killing others.
@@bcm9610 Like I've often said - stupidest argument ever. First of all, I wouldn't have known the difference. According to your beliefs, I would have landed in heaven, so I don't see a down side. But my mother never had a choice as to whether or not to abort me or even raise me herself. She was a very young teen, sent away in shame, forced to carry the result of a statutory rape, then returned to the same environment with the rapist. Rinse. Repeat. She spent her pregnancies in an institution that labeled her a sinner. The back of my head is flat because I spent the months waiting to be adopted, neglected, left laying on my back. It's called plagiocephaly. The women at the institution never received proper natal care and my life has been a constant health struggle due to that. So just like the misleading photos of perfect babies in the womb, the advice to 'do your nine' and everyone lives happily ever after is selfish bullshit, forcing unscientific religious beliefs on society with no thought to the consequences.
Where is the man who got her mother pregnant in the first place..all the abortion talks is focising on the women.. Why are the men allowed to pregnate the women... There needs to be a law against men having sex with women not their wives
She was on her third kid at 21 at what point do you start saying maybe she needs to say no. You can’t open a lock if the hole is closed off. She was never raped.
Yes agreed but these stupid women need to use there brains they will get pregnant and have to look after the child if man ain't responsible don't waste time on him an don't get pregnant simple
I'm glad the sisters found each other...thats really beautiful they have that connection...the girls seem like they came out ok...seem very smart an level headed.
I'm so happy Shelley realizes it's not her fault who her biological Mother was! And so happy she met her sister!🌹❤ I am curious about the third sister, if they just couldn't find her? But no matter the reason I'm happy for these two sisters finding each other and having a good relationship!🌹❤🙏
WOW WHAT A STORY!!
Awww 😭🙏 you two are very blessed and God is with you, praying for everyone 💞
She had the money to fight in Supreme Court however didn’t want to invest that money into raising her child.
Awwww..conquer things together ❤
She looks amazing for 51 wow
I know! She looks like thirty-something.
That's what happens when you're not raised by toxic people
@@NieceyWeesey ok? Lmaooo
great information. I especially liked the part where you guys forget to mention that she falsely accused blsck men of rape in order to grt the procedure in TX.
So cool they decided to make lemonade from the lemons!! I completely agree with the half sister’s position (Jennifer Ferguson). To be honest, I’ve actually struggled with a good way of putting it for years and she nailed it.
I would love to hear their thoughts in an updated interview after the most recent SCOTUS decision.
Unfortunate she ever had to learn her mothers identity. Trust me not knowing is much better than knowing, abandoned baby to another abandoned baby.
There’s really no right answer. Either way, you’re screwed. I found out when I was 18- the same age and same time the Alexis Manigo story was circulating. I lived a similar life to Jordan Turpin and her siblings with my adoptive family. I hate how adoption is glorified by the right.
I think she’s pro life
She's pro-choice because she knows firsthand what it's like to feel rejected by her birth mother... both my parents were adopted, and one of them turned out to have narcissistic personality disorder, and she was never able to truly love, because of the self-hate and anger she felt from being rejected by her birth mother.. and reminded everyday that she was adopted.
You always want to throw up adoption, but you never think about what the child has to go through... not all children get adopted, and not all children get adopted into loving homes.
The fact that abortion wasn't even thought of as something illegal until women won the right to vote should tell you everything about it.
@@ninij9692 someone that was aborted wouldn't even have the opportunity to feel rejected. Reminded every day of the rejection??? That sounds like a self-esteem issue to me.
I'm adopted, the best thing that ever happened....Unless you consider death the best thing.
Adoption IS a "choice." If they don't know that, then they don't know what the word "choice" means. It means more than one option per side.
this story is a tear-jerker. 😥😢
A woman who gives away three kids is just irresponsible. No respect for a woman like that!
Poor Shelley imagine finding out that your own mother never wanted you imagine the pain she was Norma a self absorbed horrible selfish heartless mother
She looks amazing for 50
I'm proud of you. Stay wise in protecting yourself.
A story with a happy ending.
Two sisters together 🙏💕
I think what is interesting is that Shelley’s biological mom knew that she wasn’t suited to be a good mom. And it appears as if she was totally right all along lol.
All the same, even if forced, Shelley was given the best gift anyone could get. life. I hope she sees herself as a miracle rather than to spend years focus on how awful she feels her biological mother is.
She gets to live. So do it big. And enjoy every moment of it.
Life itself is the blessing…
I'm kind of surprised at how mad Shelley seems to be at Norma. Of course I've never been in her position, so I can't judge. I guess she's mad that Norma wanted an abortion. But she should just be happy that she was placed for adoption and adopted by loving parents. Norma was a confused woman and was probably trying her best to do whatever she thought was right at the time.
@@MsKim14 there is nothing wrong with being upset at the fact that your own mother wanted to end your life. She can be greatful for her life without it having anything to do with her mother and without praising her for not killing her. She doesn't have to like her or be greatful for the bare minimum kindness of not killing her that even most animals can provide for their young. Please don't try to belittle her personal tragedy and turn it into sonthing she should be greatful for. Every child has the right to live you aren't doing a child a favor by allowing him or her to life you are respecting the most human basic right which is to live.
@@MsKim14 It's natural to feel rejected and unwanted. That requires therapy.
Amen!
@@MsKim14 if your mother walked into your room and tried to kill you ,you would feel grateful she gave you life.😵Norma was willing to kill her daughter by abortion.She was a callous individual with seemingly little reverence for life.Not even the life of her own child.she was cold,-,hearted.
Is price in AUD. or. USD
Norma sounded like she needed guidance as a woman about her body? All of these pregnancies.
I'm glad you're alive
Thank you Amy.
100% her mother would hate this for her
People need to us contraceptive if sexually active , everyone knows if ur not ready for a baby, then use protection. Unless it's a medical decision. My opinion.
You mean...be responsible for one's own actions?
Did she want a KIDNEY FROM HER? SO GLAD YOU DIDN'T MEET HER.
Why did Norma back to back getting pregnant and birthing children if she didn’t want them? No matter how a child came to be that child has a right to their life
I wish Shelly Lynn all the peace, love and privacy she can You don't take a life for your own convenience or comfort. In all other situations the courts call it murder.
Well this is interesting timing 🙄
I know, right? 🙄
@@Starsk25 right🙄 jk no more abortion as birth control lol
Sweet. I am glad they found each other and hopefully they will find their other sister.
it’s funny how people think pro-choice isn’t an equal option. pro-choice isn’t pro-abortion, and if it was, that doesn’t mean killing babies, nor is it fun. pro-choice is the right to chose. I don’t understand these people saying “I think it should be equal, I want everyone to be happy. It’s not for me personally but I feel like people should have the right to chose.. but I’m not pro-life or pro-choice” like sis you’re literally pro-choice
You have a right to choose to use protection.
These word games are so tiring. Please tell me what "choice" does the pro-choice movement advocate for that pro-life doesn't? It's direct abortion, plain and simple. The pro-life movement stresses actual alternatives for mothers, like adoption or seeking help from charities to provide food, medical appointments, and overall support. All of the money from pro-choice organizations goes towards Planned Parenthood or helping to provide abortifacients to women in other ways, it only goes towards more abortions, more death.
Killing a child should never be a "choice." It's not a choice that anyone ever needs to make, otherwise we're no better than the Romans leaving unwanted newborns on a hill waiting for wolves to eat them. "Equal" in this scenario would be everyone acknowledging that the mother and the child in the womb have equal human rights, namely the right to life.
I am pro choice... choosing prevention. But what about pregnancies from rape or medical reasons? 🤔
My uncle was a child that was born out of rape. My grandmother was only 12 at the time. He was raised by other family members ( not my grandmother). He later, became a bishop of a prominent church and helped me pay for college.
I am so very thankful for his life.
I believe - even back then, abortions for medical reasons ( life or death) have been allowed.
I don’t judge people for abortions though- i think there is entirely too many judgy people in the world today.
I just say - that if you were looking for hope … I have many stories of hope.
But in the end what the mother knew very well- was that she wasn’t suited to be a good mother. She wasnt wrong there.
Thank God, she was still able to give her daughter a gift of life anyway. I pray her daughter is able to see it that way one day.
Well, politicians in Texas guaranteed they will STOP all rape when this bill passes……as if that’s possible! For this group of people there is absolutely NO reason on this earth to abort a pregnancy, but then again men don’t have to worry about it themselves because they can’t give life. I want to know if sperm is considered “live”, if so men are killing that in their own way.
@@GodsFavoriteGirl7-1 exactly... judgmental people is the problem. There has to be some form of flexibility. Much like inclusivity...
Havent they heard about birth control or getting tubes tied
My biological mother told me when I met her that if abortion was legal in Ireland in 1978 she would have aborted me honestly this broke my heart I could have never had the choice to live but thankfully laws protected me to live. I went on to raise 2 kids went back to college and now help so many vulnerable people within my community. I don't judge any1 for having an abortion but from my own personal experience and that of my friends and family their glad I was allowed to live I never asked to be born my adopted mother didn't want me but I was by my family (adoptive and my parental biological family who have only learnt of my existence we have met unfortunately my biological father died in 2017 but my grandmother is still alive and we have such a close bond even with all my parental biological side they have never been so happy and I'm a big sister to 3 half brothers. I'm coming from the point that I was saved and I have made a difference within my families lifes my friends lifes and of all the people I help on a daily basis. Abortion is so complex the rights off ALL must be respected and listened to equally. My thoughts and prayers go out to those who ever had to make that decision but if my biological mothers rights where more valid than mine I wouldn't be here doing right by people no matter what and loving everyone
Awww
I'm glad they were born!
The group of people harness this poor Shelley?
She got pregnant 3 times and did not want the children. She wanted no accountability for her actions. Abortions SHOULD NOT take the place of keeping your pum pum to yourself until you're ready for the responsibility of parenthood. It's not that hard!
didnt she also first accuse the guy of raping her so she could get an abortion?
Exactly.
Well said these women or anybody even yougster who choose to get pregnant didn't bother thinking of consequences should not be allowed to get rid of the child they should be held accountable why are these selfish people so careless abort yourselves your thoughts and private parts as u made that choice.stop killing innocent babies make the right choices in life
Women don't like accountability just superman doesn't like kryptonite. It's wonderful the sisters meet
How did this get on the air!?
"The unborn" are a convenient group of people to advocate for. They never make demands of you; they are morally uncomplicated, unlike orphans, they don't need money, education, or childcare; they allow you to feel good about yourself without any work at creating or maintaining relationships; and when they are born, you can forget about them, because they cease to be unborn. It's almost as if, by being born, they have died to you. You can love the unborn and advocate for them without substantially challenging your own wealth, power, or privilege, without re-imagining social structures, apologizing, or making reparations to anyone. They are, in short, the perfect people to love if you want to claim you love Jesus but actually dislike people who breathe.
wonder if they know the eldest sister
Where is the 3rd Child...does she/he have a different opinion than these 2? This is hard and will pull people apart in decisions that they want and make in their lives.
Well the state laws should’ve legalized abortion! If then this daughter would not have gone through that. Roe could’ve went through abortion, and avoided giving up there kids for adoption.
She appears happy to be happy to be alive,and was adopted by a very nice,loving family.
That's retarded you're thinking is retarded those women deserve life as much as you do. That statement you made is the most moronic comment on here.
Do you kill people?
So she's just very irresponsible really 3 times!?
It's a great movie
I HATE that it says "Daughter of N. M."
It needs to say "Biological Daughter of N. M."
As an adoptive mother it would sting a bit knowing that my daughters are being referred to as the daughters of the woman who wanted to kill them in the womb.
Just saying.
Tough stuff.
I don't think she should have done this interview. People don't know how to mind her business. Some people will still give he had time regardless.
Jennifer looks exactly like the birth donor.
Hopefully she can forgive her bio mom at least she didn’t go through with the abortion or she wouldn’t be here to be mad her that’s she didn’t handle things right. Sounds like adoption was a pretty great choice compared to being aborted or raised in an unstable environment.
She didn't go thru with it because it was illegal at that point. It was Jane Roes plan to abort her. Took 2 yrs to win. So she gave her up since she had to have her in that timd period.
Was it for a change of heart or because the trial took two years? True! better to be adopted
She didn't go through with it because she couldn't do so legally in Texas. Roe said out of her own mouth she never had a change of heart. Period.
@@RahYisrael99 I watched her speeches as a prolife advocate she said she had no idea they were using her story in court she said she changed her mind and didn’t want to go through with it. So I have no idea what you’re talking about Roe said she was taken advantage of by activists.
@@dearbrave4183 I watched some videos of Roe as a prolife advocate she said she changed her mind and didn’t want to go through with it and had no idea they were taking her story to court.
Hilarious...if a girl is concerned about being forced to be a mother before she gets her license, then maybe she should keep her legs closed. It's the mind set of these people that makes no sense.
This!!! And from a woman. ❤️
If only people used there brain and also were made responsible both man an women no wonder kids are messed up with gender sex and allsorts of problems if there parents were good and decent people times would not be this bad
Why would a plaintiff appeal to a court ruling after giving birth to the lawsuits cause.
So asks if people are always asking what her opinion is and then proceeds to ask it anyways
Don’t say “given up for adoption” say “placed in adoption” have some compassion
Uh, no. I see you’re trying to be politically correct. Let’s call it for what it is: being given up. No if’s, and’s or buts. Thumbs down yo you 👎
Where's the 3rd sister?
They used Norma for this horrible purpose . Over 60 million of our brothers and sisters have been snuffed out ! Despicable.
Honble UPA Chairperson Smt Soniagandhi madum please fight for to implement Ballot Paper voting system in next MP elections in 2024and to save democracy in india and public opinion in favour of Ballot Paper voting system and right to vote is fundamental right.public opinion is foundation of democracy.
What about the fake rape allegations!
Jennifer and Shelly are soo lucky their birth mother gave them up. Other unwanted children are not so lucky and are stuck with mothers who don't want them.
How can they force a young girl to have a child even before they can get a Drivers Licence, as happens or know what a Drivers Licence is. At what age can a girl obtain a Drivers Licence.
The girl shouldn’t be having unprotected sex if she doesn’t want to give birth.
No, she didn't sue, and no, she didn't win. She was not involved beyond a signature. It was a suit in search of a plaintiff.
This is bizarre but really, there are people that should just not have children. It's a weird, sad fact of life. Bodily autonomy is so crucial.
Yes, that's why you should always have a condom on hand, or a semblance of self-control.
Already given up 2 other's wow
Oh really everyone need a second chance so you have to give her a chance
Apple didn't fall far from that tree
I think it’s more about educating young people, more contraceptions and stop single moms bringing strange men around their kids.
Teach them to hold a quarter between their knees
Stop single moms bringing strange men around their kids??? How about strange men just stop being strange men??
@@madidiaveli lol right right, men should rise above their faults before women should. That hoochie mama already got knocked up and is still fkn round. Pretty sure she's got bigger issues than a single dude looking for an easy lay
Both of the girls look exactly like their mom.
What about the other sibling?
The oldest sister was adopted by the grandmother. She had a relationship with Norma. She also has an interview discussing her mother
Gloria Alrad was Norma’s lawyer!!
If Shelly didn’t want to be famous. Why did she come forward.
The most absolute way she would have not been known. Oh she wants to be famous. The same narc as the woman gave her up.
This part of her story. Did not have to be told.
Know she is being paid for sponsors.
She came forward AFTER her mother died. Of course she and her sister were paid for the interview… 🙄🙄
No discussion about the father's views, responsibilities, connections... not criticising this particular video, just saying that men don't haev to face either the choices, the consequences or the scrutiny. And yet if motherhoos is sacred to us, shouldn't we make sure that women get the knoweldge, the support and the care that they need? No country is good enough at empowering and protecting girls and young women and that is sad.
"It's scary that people can judge what women are going to do with their bodies." Except people aren't judging women for that, it's judging them for wanting to harm a separate, innocent body with it's own human rights. No hate to Shelley or Jennifer, they seem like nice enough people, but I don't think they've actually thought about abortion critically at all, which I totally understand considering who their mother was. Either of them can only choose flip-flop on how they feel about the issue purely because their right to life was protected by the state.
Three unwanted pregnancies at 21? what a role model.
I hear ya... but she did admit at the end of her life - and we must forgive our fellow sinner now. She found her salvation before she died.
@@aprilmoore2917 Screw that crap. It's not our job to forgive, that is between her and her maker.
@@rutgerhauser2377 yeah - it doesn't really matter on our part - but we cannot hold her in bad grace now.... she's dead and gone, and met her maker - and I for one, am glad she's come clean before she passed through the thin veil...
@@aprilmoore2917 Idk what to believe from her. She started by being the flagbearer for the pro choice movement. Then became ardently pro life. Then on her deathbed she claimed she was pro choice all along and that she was acting pro life because they paid her.
Idk but a shill is a shill. Just because they are dead doesn't mean we should like them. It's what we do in life that we carry with us.
@@rutgerhauser2377 yeah - the entire roe v. Wade case was centered around her claim that she'd been raped... to have her turn around years later and explain that it was all a lie, she hadn't been raped, and she had been paid (essentially) to pose as a poster child for the whole question was really like a slap in the face. I see her turn around (to pro life, and repentant before the creator,) as an expression of remorse for those actions. To admit it publicly tells me that she wants to make amends for that lie... it's a good thing that she accomplished this before the end, and we really can't hold any grudges against an already repentant and dead sinner. She did all she could to make it right - she can't go back in time and make it whole again...
If she doesn't want to share her view on abortion it means that she is most likely in support of it.
Thank God she's gone
after seeing the interview with her almost aborted daughter i can see why she never forgave Norma and neither would i
Pro choice put yourself in The baby's shoes and see how you feel
There’s adoption. There’s other choices a woman can make besides abortion
Or let’s not forget, men can also get vasectomies 😌🤟
Oh dear girl
Norma is a terrible person.