Deep Incarnation and Co-Creation in an Unfinished Universe
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 ก.ค. 2024
- A Tegeder Talk by Dr. Ilia Delio, OSF
Presented at St. Francis Cabrini Catholic Church on September 29, 2023
0:00:00 Introduction
0:05:05 Dr. Delio's presentation
1:13:38 Q&A
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Well Spoken true and real......
This is One of the most amazing talks that I have heard in my entire life. she speaks truth and beauty and wisdom! I will certainly continue to explore her writings and prayerfully try to deep in my own understanding. God bless you for posting such a beautiful video.
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Very meaningful, profound and thought provoking.Cyrilla
🙏💔🙏 Thank You Schwester Ilea, blessing to listening to you, Maria from Kloster Oberzell Germany🙏🎶🎨🖌️
Thank you 🙏🏼 ❤ brilliant thinking.
A remarkable woman with a remarkable vision. Thank you Ilia!
Ilea draws me forward with deep hope in the magnificent power of love and how we're entangled with God.
"the physical structure of the universe is Love"
while i appreciate your loving mood, actually THIS world is made of Lust, The Lord's abode is made of Love. THIS place here is for the rebellious souls who chose to rein in Hell rather than serve in Heaven.
Thanks to Dr Delio for an excellent lecture. I particularly like the part on the evolution of both Jesus the Christ and all of God’s flock, which allows me to look at what was said in the Bible (Luke) “Forgive them, Father, for they know not what they do” in modern light. Everyone (with few exceptions) knows right from wrong will be the moral growth since these words were spoken.
The inspired writers of the Bible subtly named the Saviour The second Coming of Christ instead of Jesus the Christ because of a similar evolution of Christ. One cannot exercise judgement on the flock (which includes teachers, preachers and professors) and be fair due to potential conflicts of interest if one’s mindset is according to those spoken words.
Still, it is most important to be aware of the foot steps of The Second Coming of Christ when the pace towards judgement quickens. As the lyrical poet Bob Dylan said ‘ Since my feet are now fast, and point away from the past’: time is of the essence.
However, whether or not any individual wants to follow in those footsteps, and guard against corruption, negative Nationalistic views (which include nepotism and other forms of corruption) will always be the individual’s choice.
god is not an object nor person, god is the process...
Thank you for this talk. McGilchrist in his book The Matter With Things makes a distinction between Pantheism and PanENtheism which is more than simply knowing “god is everything” and helps explain why God is also the Creator and worthy of our prayers and supplication.
So, much as I appreciate the talk, it does sound a bit New Age and putting humans at the center of the cosmic whole. There are deeper truths in the old stories that we should continue to contemplate.
The "creator" side of our Lord, is a very small part. He enjoys at Home with the One's He Loves and Who Love Him. Lord Jesus did not go into detail about these matters, They are far too confidential and easy to misunderstand. Being the Creator isn't a big deal. He is the MOST Beautiful, Most Humorous, Most Merciful, The Strongest.. EVERYTHING ! The Creator side of Him is just, in one sense.... an unhappy chore, creating a place for rebellious Souls to enjoy their foolish desires separate from Him. ALL The Lord wants is that you Love Him, not because He creates stuff, but because He Loves YOU, and we are only the unhappy LOSERS when we choose to ignore His Love. My father loved me, i didnt care that he bulit our house, Love is above such things Surely ! Don't you agree ?
Also, as you say... the New age stuff has a habit of creeping in everywhere. Let's be honest .. The mis-reading of Christianity, with its Dogmas, misogyny and violence is partly to blame for this, this idea that life is just between me and God, with Nature just the background for our"Play", certainly helped nurture this "Human" centred society. The misdeeds of the Christian Churches and the aforementioned "nature as background only", lead to the so-called Enlightenment, where God was replaced by Man as "THAT worthy of worship". The "new-age" didn't cause this, The Churches DID. Although i still accept the point you are making.
If we all want to grow, then adults accept responsibility for their mistakes, learn from them, move on and grow.
And remember..... "Today is the first day of the rest of your Life. " 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤢😊😇 as the New agers say !
we are NOT the universe, the universe is gross and subtle matter, which we observe.
we are spiritual conscious sparks of God. “Whoever has come to know the world has found the (dead) body." "He who is near me is near the fire,
and he who is far from me is far from the kingdom.
The problem here is that it would be better to leave Jesus out of this altogether. Jesus clearly said some very radical things that just don’t fit with this theology. Her Jesus is too woolly and too cosy to be the Jesus of the Gospels. The real Jesus has too many sharp edges to fit into the round hole she has created for him.
CS Lewis Mere Christianity -
“ I am trying here to prevent anyone saying the really foolish thing that people often say about Him [that is, Christ]: ‘I’m ready to accept Jesus as a great moral teacher, but I don’t accept His claim to be God.’ That is the one thing we must not say. A man who was merely a man and said the sort of things Jesus said would not be a great moral teacher. He would either be a lunatic-on a level with the man who says he is a poached egg-or else he would be the Devil of Hell. You must make your choice. Either this man was, and is, the Son of God: or else a madman or something worse…. You can shut Him up for a fool, you can spit at Him and kill Him as a demon; or you can fall at His feet and call Him Lord and God. But let us not come up with any patronising nonsense about His being a great human teacher. He has not left that open to us. He did not intend to.”