I just started watching this video. Just seen the parts. I believe this is going to be a good video.. Now back to the video.. Thanks for posting. Phillip Hall
This is the same setup I have on my 79 Stepside. Nicely done Sir. The biggest PITA for me was removing and replacing the old bushings from the leaf springs and shackles.
Very informative. Glad i saw this vid last night. Definitely going to help me out with my sons truck build. We just painted his 15x8 rally wheels and i wasnt sure on how or what drop to do. Thanks again. I just subscribed to your channel.
Great Job! truck looks great I wish I had seen this video a year ago , I have a 1979 c10 Sierra and Did the two inch drop coils and shocks but now makes me want to do the kit you Did. Thank your sharing !
Great, informative video. Best I've seen and i've watched a few. I have a 1973 C10 step side. If my truck has the 1" rotors, what is required to go up to the 1.25" rotors? What rear shock relocaters did you use?
The 1.25 in rotor conversion requires spindles, rotors, calipers, wheel bearings, and I always do pads, inner wheel seal, and brake hoses as well. The shock extenders are used in this video were from a company called street race. I also use CPP.
@@BestDamnShopAround Well, I only acquired it about 8 months ago from the 2nd owner, who bought it in 1981 I think. He passed away, so I can't tell you if it came from down south, but I don't think so. I'm in the Seattle area, so completely opposite end of the country. It's a Chevy Cheyenne option package. It was in a 'carport' for the last 32 years. I'm working on the logistics of getting it running again.
I hate to ask, but I’m learning so I don’t get the wrong thing for me and my sons project ‘83 C15. Could you recommend the kit or part number from CPP for the drop spindles and rotor kit? I saw in another comment you said you started using them after the video. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thank you sir.
Cutting C-10 factory coil springs. 1" cut off is a 2" drop, 2" is a 4" drop. I've an '87 Chevrolet S-10. Does those coils apply with the same ratio of cut off to drop as well? Or is it different?
Thank you! When I made this video I was using McGaughy's exclusively but I have recently switched to CPP. The last three pairs of McGaughy's I bought all had minor issues. None of which were safety concerns but due to the decline of manufacturing quality I switched. You have to be careful with cheap spindles, the body of the spindle itself is cast and if it isn't built properly or machined correctly it won't fit and/or break. And also the pin, the part the rotor and bearing slide on to I have seen machined incorrectly and or not properly pressed into the spindle itself.
Thanks for the quick reply! Ordering CPP now! Quality control is big. Especially with so much social media, information and reviews travel quick! Thanks again!
Hi - loved your video and subscribed! I’ve got a ‘78 C10 stepper and will be lowering it. Just curious - are those stock rims with 205/75/15 tires on this truck?
Thank you for the subscription! This truck has will ventiques 15x8 OEM style wheels that are made to accept the factory hubcap. The tires are 235 75 15s, I believe kumho.
I noticed the hood has a bow in the center. I see this a lot on these trucks. Do you have a video that shows how to fix the bowed hood? Thanks, Phillip Hall
Depends on the brand of the parts, where you buy them, and how many parts you need. For example if your truck needs ball joints, tie rod ends, etc. The main parts should be around the $650 range
hey brother. I followed you and video helped a lot. At the time I didn’t have the space and access to a grinder for the bump stops. I’ll be riding with the bump stops for over a year and a half. It’s definitely time to take them off. have y’all had any issues with clearance with frame?
Any concerns with not notching the frame? What’s been the experience of those who had it done this way? Just concerned about bottoming out if we don’t notch the frame.
We've done several without notches without issues but we just cruise around and haul light loads with bottoming out. If it was going to see heavy loads a notch would be needed.
I appreciate your reply. I read through more of your comments where you said the same thing, but appreciate you taking time to say it again@@BestDamnShopAround
@@BestDamnShopAround Damn. Well, doing a 4/6 drop on my 78 this weekend. Running 15x7's all the way around. I will report back if the wheels don't fit 🤞
Did you have any driveshaft issues? Pinion angle? I just lowered my 78’ with a flip kit and the drive shaft is about to come Out of the front of the engine haha
No issues at all! The flip kit has an offset pin to relocate the rear end slightly forward to alleviate that issue. If the saddles are installed backwards then it would pull the yolk out of the transmission but also set the tires too far back and the fender well
@@BestDamnShopAround I used the offset whole and still have a slight pinion angle problem and shaft is shoved forward. Going to tear down this week. Hopefully it’s a simple solution.
Hey bro what shocks do I run on the front and rear I hear a lot belltech but what do you recommend for my 1980 c10 step side thank you for you’re time bro!
Belltech are good but I choose to run the Monroe premium line. The OEM shock works on the front no problem, if you buy the shock extender for the rear you can run the OEM there as well!
Sorry bro is there a lowering monroe premium or is it the regular one on eBay For “1975~1986 Chevrolet C10 Monroe Shocks & Struts Front Rear Shock Absorber”
Under normal driving conditions no. I've had this exact setup on a personal truck of mine for two years and only hit the bump stops with a bad full of stuff or going over train tracks faster than I should LOL If you intended to load the bed with anything heavy the extra room of a notch is needed
@@BestDamnShopAround That's good to know. I'm not sure how much I'll be loading the bed of my truck. Guess it's always something that can be done later if I find I'm hitting frame a lot. Thanks!
@@BestDamnShopAround aesthetics and a few other reasons. I’ve seen cheap washers have burrs so sharp side in. It’s all preference I guess. I’ve been in the trades for 22 years and never seen anyone intentionally do them the way you do though. Also washers with stamping. Stamps always go out and they are on the curved side. Like I said. All your washers are backwards lol but it’s fine. Really makes no difference. Great video my man!
@@BestDamnShopAroundhey brother. I followed you and video helped a lot. At the time I didn’t have the space and access to a grinder for the bump stops. I’m riding with the bump stops for over a year and a half. It’s definitely time to take them off. Have y’all had the diff slam on the frame?
Man I love that saying, "you aint squarebody, you aint nobody" that should go on a shirt!!
It's in the works!
Man, that stepper's sweet! I've always loved that shade of green. Perfect amount of patina with the perfect amount of leftover pinstripping.
Exactly what caught my eye!
@@BestDamnShopAroundHi where did you get the rear shocks from that came with the new hardware?
@@soobok13 they are Monroe brand from AutoZone
I just started watching this video. Just seen the parts. I believe this is going to be a good video.. Now back to the video..
Thanks for posting.
Phillip Hall
Thank you!!
@@BestDamnShopAround
Your welcome! I just Subscribed… I am the one that needs to thank you! I have a 77 that needs the same thing!
Phillip Hall
@@PhillipHall01 I'm glad we could help! And thank you for the subscription!
Great video. Good lighting, good camera work. Just ordered a kit and wanted to see what I was up against.
Thanks!
Thank you!
This is the same setup I have on my 79 Stepside. Nicely done Sir. The biggest PITA for me was removing and replacing the old bushings from the leaf springs and shackles.
Agreed, such a pain!
Very informative. Glad i saw this vid last night. Definitely going to help me out with my sons truck build. We just painted his 15x8 rally wheels and i wasnt sure on how or what drop to do. Thanks again. I just subscribed to your channel.
You're welcome, thank you for the support!
I see you keep the best damn shop around very neat, clean and organized.
Not nearly as clean and organize as I would like for it to be! Haha
Nice find!!! Love the truck!!!!
Thank you!
Those 15x8 steelies are where it's at. The stock 15x6s are okay. But having that little bit extra dish makes all the difference.
Bingo! Gives it that OEM muscle truck look!
Great Job! truck looks great I wish I had seen this video a year ago , I have a 1979 c10 Sierra and Did the two inch drop coils and shocks but now makes me want to do the kit you Did. Thank your sharing !
Thank you for watching!
I love the stepside! Looks great. I have a 84 Chevy stepside myself.
Thank you!
I love the drop you guys did
Thank you!
i insttal on mine full coil over kit from QA1 in fromt and 4link kit in rear from TCI alone all by my self and run great! love your green stepper!😁
That's a sweet setup!
I bought a1980 GMC Street Coupe stepside back in August 1980 still have it original with only 35 k miles on it.
That's so cool! You hardly ever hear of square bodies with original owners!
When hanging calipers out of the way, remember, wire hangers are a mechanics best friend, I use them all the time lol
That's what I usually use but couldn't find them, so good old zip ties had to do lol
Dude!!! Cheep and easy!!!✌️
That was the goal!
Spectacular
Thank you!
Great, informative video. Best I've seen and i've watched a few. I have a 1973 C10 step side. If my truck has the 1" rotors, what is required to go up to the 1.25" rotors? What rear shock relocaters did you use?
The 1.25 in rotor conversion requires spindles, rotors, calipers, wheel bearings, and I always do pads, inner wheel seal, and brake hoses as well. The shock extenders are used in this video were from a company called street race. I also use CPP.
What tires are those. Love that look
This looks identical to one of my c10s lol
Really??
Awesome lowering kit! I like the bed wood build too. I’d like to do both to my truck and I’m within driving distance. How do we connect?
Give us a call! Mon-friday 9-6
Damn bro that is a big ass cutting torch , I always used a Victor 150 gets job done , but overkill is always good , lol
Bigger than it needs to be for sure! An old-timer gave it to me for free so I couldn't pass it!
That's the exact same color (Shamrock Green) and pinstriping as my '79 Chevy stepside. I've not seen another one with that pinstripe design.
Really?! We haven't seen another one either! Does yours happen to be from the Atlanta area?
@@BestDamnShopAround Well, I only acquired it about 8 months ago from the 2nd owner, who bought it in 1981 I think. He passed away, so I can't tell you if it came from down south, but I don't think so. I'm in the Seattle area, so completely opposite end of the country. It's a Chevy Cheyenne option package. It was in a 'carport' for the last 32 years. I'm working on the logistics of getting it running again.
@@BestDamnShopAround Not sure if you care to see the original intact pinstriping, I'll send you a couple photos.
@@meekTR6 you're right, almost totally catty-corner of the country lol
@@meekTR6 I'd love to see it! I was curious if it was a dealership installed strip kit but maybe not!
I hate to ask, but I’m learning so I don’t get the wrong thing for me and my sons project ‘83 C15. Could you recommend the kit or part number from CPP for the drop spindles and rotor kit? I saw in another comment you said you started using them after the video. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thank you sir.
@@terrylowe8432 cp4s4 is the 2.5" drop spindle for the larger 1.25" rotors
Cutting C-10 factory coil springs. 1" cut off is a 2" drop, 2" is a 4" drop. I've an '87 Chevrolet S-10. Does those coils apply with the same ratio of cut off to drop as well? Or is it different?
I believe it should follow the same principle!
you can use that ratio on a lot of older cars, I lowered my Crown Vic 2inch in the front by cutting 1" off the coil.
Good info thanks guys! Will 18" wheels fit this drop just fine? 76 stepside here
Depends on the offset, but that diameter should be fine!
Awesome video man I saved it I’ll be doing this with my 84 long bed BBC. Why the big block coils vs the sb coils?
The big block coils are stiffer due to the increased weight. So when you cut some height out of them they don't become too soft!
What’s the pro’s on the Mc Gaughay’s spindles vs others companies? Great vid man. Very informative
Thank you! When I made this video I was using McGaughy's exclusively but I have recently switched to CPP. The last three pairs of McGaughy's I bought all had minor issues. None of which were safety concerns but due to the decline of manufacturing quality I switched. You have to be careful with cheap spindles, the body of the spindle itself is cast and if it isn't built properly or machined correctly it won't fit and/or break. And also the pin, the part the rotor and bearing slide on to I have seen machined incorrectly and or not properly pressed into the spindle itself.
Thanks for the quick reply! Ordering CPP now! Quality control is big. Especially with so much social media, information and reviews travel quick!
Thanks again!
@@andrewortiz you're welcome! Good luck!
Hi - loved your video and subscribed! I’ve got a ‘78 C10 stepper and will be lowering it. Just curious - are those stock rims with 205/75/15 tires on this truck?
Thank you for the subscription! This truck has will ventiques 15x8 OEM style wheels that are made to accept the factory hubcap. The tires are 235 75 15s, I believe kumho.
Thanks! That’s the look I’m going for.
@@jimbronnenkant9729 anytime!
I noticed the hood has a bow in the center. I see this a lot on these trucks. Do you have a video that shows how to fix the bowed hood? Thanks,
Phillip Hall
You're right! We don't have a video yet but something coming soon!
@@BestDamnShopAround
Good! Thanks!
Cool👍👍so how much does all the parts cost?
Depends on the brand of the parts, where you buy them, and how many parts you need. For example if your truck needs ball joints, tie rod ends, etc. The main parts should be around the $650 range
clearly you have a lot of experience. - trying to get some drop spindles on 4wd 1978 ramcharger but can’t find any kit - any suggestions? Thanks!
I have a lot of experience with Chevrolets and fords, but have never worked on a RAM charger. Sorry I couldn't help!
Thanks man, appreciate the reply and enjoy ur channel - all the best
@@wrenched90405 thank you!
hey brother. I followed you and video helped a lot. At the time I didn’t have the space and access to a grinder for the bump stops. I’ll be riding with the bump stops for over a year and a half. It’s definitely time to take them off. have y’all had any issues with clearance with frame?
We haven't had any contact with the diff to the frame. We still use it as a truck but don't load it super heavy
Any concerns with not notching the frame? What’s been the experience of those who had it done this way? Just concerned about bottoming out if we don’t notch the frame.
We've done several without notches without issues but we just cruise around and haul light loads with bottoming out. If it was going to see heavy loads a notch would be needed.
I appreciate your reply. I read through more of your comments where you said the same thing, but appreciate you taking time to say it again@@BestDamnShopAround
@@EarlwithanE no problem, any time!
Hello, I liked and subscribed to your video. Would the coil springs fit a 67 c10?
Thank you for the subscription! I do not believe this particular part number will work on a 67. But the general concept would still apply.
Got it, Thank you for your quick response.
@@joegonzales1077 anytime!
What is the part Number or brand of the shock relocate
Switch suspension is the brand I'm using now.
What were the part numbers on the shock absorbers?
I can't remember. They're Monroe OEM replacements.
Very Sweet
Thank you!!
you think something like this can work on a 78 C20?
I'm not sure, I haven't lowered a c20.
Beautiful original truck ida kept it stock but that's just my style never liked the slammed big wheel look on trucks! But good job👍
Thank you!
What's the part #on the rear shocks you used
I can't remember. They are Monroe replacements for the truck.
Do you have to notch the frame in the back for the drop kit
Not if you don't load the bed down heavy! Been driving mine without a notch for years
@@BestDamnShopAround thank you really appreciate it didn't want to cut in to the frame
@@davidmalcom3625 no problem!
Do you have to shorten the drive shaft with the flip kit?
Not at all! That's the reason for the offset in the plate!
What about pinion angle? Any change there?
What would be the difference if you do a 3” drop spindle and not cut the spring?
You can't run a 15" wheel with a 3" drop spindle.
What about 3" drop spindles with 1" drop coils? 15's still don't fit?
@@JWood454 3" spindles won't work with 15s from my experience
@@BestDamnShopAround Damn. Well, doing a 4/6 drop on my 78 this weekend. Running 15x7's all the way around. I will report back if the wheels don't fit 🤞
@@BestDamnShopAroundI was wondering why the 2.5s over the 3s.
Did you have any driveshaft issues? Pinion angle? I just lowered my 78’ with a flip kit and the drive shaft is about to come
Out of the front of the engine haha
No issues at all! The flip kit has an offset pin to relocate the rear end slightly forward to alleviate that issue. If the saddles are installed backwards then it would pull the yolk out of the transmission but also set the tires too far back and the fender well
@@BestDamnShopAround I used the offset whole and still have a slight pinion angle problem and shaft is shoved forward. Going to tear down this week. Hopefully it’s a simple solution.
@@Hvac11bravo hopefully! Good luck!
What size shocks did you use for the front?
Monroe OEM replacements
What number of shock absorbers do you use?
Monroe OEM replacements. I don't have the part number written down, got them from O'Rileys.
Hey bro what shocks do I run on the front and rear I hear a lot belltech but what do you recommend for my 1980 c10 step side thank you for you’re time bro!
Belltech are good but I choose to run the Monroe premium line. The OEM shock works on the front no problem, if you buy the shock extender for the rear you can run the OEM there as well!
@@BestDamnShopAround thanks bro appreciate you been looking and looking but I feel like all companies use the same just different name lol
Sorry bro is there a lowering monroe premium or is it the regular one on eBay For “1975~1986 Chevrolet C10 Monroe Shocks & Struts Front Rear Shock Absorber”
@@CesarSantacruz-t6u you're welcome!
@@CesarSantacruz-t6u just the regular!
WHERE TO FINE SHOCK RELOCATER WHAT PART NUMBER TO ORDER!
I got mine from eBay!
So no c-notch needed with this much drop?
Under normal driving conditions no. I've had this exact setup on a personal truck of mine for two years and only hit the bump stops with a bad full of stuff or going over train tracks faster than I should LOL If you intended to load the bed with anything heavy the extra room of a notch is needed
@@BestDamnShopAround That's good to know. I'm not sure how much I'll be loading the bed of my truck. Guess it's always something that can be done later if I find I'm hitting frame a lot. Thanks!
@@mikedionne8187 my thoughts exactly, cutting the frame is always a last resort!
What size tires?
235 70 15
what size of tires?
235 75 15
do you paint
Yes
Will you guys lower my trk
Yessir!
Where y'all located, tell me what I need to do
How about a 62 stepside
Those are cool too! They have a different suspension design so you cannot lower them the same way as this particular truck.
@@BestDamnShopAround yeah thats why i wanna see how the best damn shop in town does it😁
@@bdspaugh if we end up with one I'll be sure to film the lowering process!
You put your washer on backwards
Which one?
@@BestDamnShopAround lol curved side out bro. All of them
@@chrisspezowka8417 I was always taught my way for aesthetic reasons. What's the reason for your way?
@@BestDamnShopAround aesthetics and a few other reasons. I’ve seen cheap washers have burrs so sharp side in. It’s all preference I guess. I’ve been in the trades for 22 years and never seen anyone intentionally do them the way you do though. Also washers with stamping. Stamps always go out and they are on the curved side.
Like I said. All your washers are backwards lol but it’s fine. Really makes no difference. Great video my man!
That hat tho
Thank you!
Where are you I like for u to work on my c10
We're located in Gainesville Georgia.
I would need to set a appointment
Look at that poor pinion angle!
Looks can be deceiving! Over 2k miles on this setup without any vibration or issues!
@@BestDamnShopAroundhey brother. I followed you and video helped a lot. At the time I didn’t have the space and access to a grinder for the bump stops. I’m riding with the bump stops for over a year and a half. It’s definitely time to take them off. Have y’all had the diff slam on the frame?
Looked better before.
Just wait to see it completely finished! You might change your mind!
Step sides look beat 👎🏽
@@Kp-ve9zmto each their own!
Are those stocks 14”s or 15’s?
@@richdlc939 15x8